How many Chardok Pulls?

[daasgoot]

How many pulls would i have to buy to get from lvl 51-54?

thanks

[Erati]

well if you have an exp penalty lvl 51 would suck bawls and cost alot of money

but 52-54 would go pretty quickly

but ur still looking at over 30-50K I think....no idea

[Mendo]

You should expect about 6 to 10% exp per pull depending on the group makeup.

[Swish]

How many pulls would i have to buy to get from lvl 51-54?

thanks

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[skipdog]

yeah cuz forum join dates means something....

personally i think baseless accusations are disgusting.

p.s. swish, why have that as your sig? you realize that she is a paid actress playing a part, right? she's not some random newswomen... she's an actress who was paid to act like that.

[Bazia]

Why did they nerf Skyfire pulls just to allow Chardok pulls

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Nerfed dragon and giant stuns. Now the only ones left are Chardok and Seb (?)

[Ikonoclastia]

What's a chardok pull? Some sort of aoe train thing for people wanting to skip the funnest levels? :)

[daasgoot]

Thanks to those of you who answered my question.

Swish, I'm not really sure what you are getting at... but fuck you.

[Tecmos Deception]

but fuck you.

Good man.

[zanderklocke]

but ur still looking at over 30-50K I think....no idea

I thought Chardok exp was better than this. 15+ pulls to go from level 51-54?

I think bard pulls in BW are more experience.

[Daldaen]

Bard pulls in BW take a lot more time to gather and work to kill.

[Tecmos Deception]

Bard pulls in BW take a lot more time to gather and work to kill.

You haven't played with the right bards.

[Flamewraith]

Swish I like you, but that was an ass hole post. Also this forum account was made 7 months after I actually started playing p99, so yeah, join date on forums means nothing.

[Man0warr]

I thought Chardok exp was better than this. 15+ pulls to go from level 51-54?

I think bard pulls in BW are more experience.

You can get up to 10-11% a pull 55-57ish so I'd think 51-53 would get more than 5%, but no firsthand experience.

59 is definitely 4-6% a pull depending on group mates.

[fishingme]

I'd strongly suggest just saving your cash. 54 go ahead and waste it, everyone hates that level. Then don't waste any more until 59. The closer you are to level of your aoe groupmates, the more xp you're going to get

[Daldaen]

You haven't played with the right bards.

I'm 100% confident, no bard can pull and kill burning woods faster than a Chardok group can do a pull.

Bard has to have more skill, good Internet, and spends more time pulling and killing.

AE group you cast the same 1-3 spells over and over for 2 minutes then AFK for 15.

You may level faster if we are talking about time online... But if we are talking time at the keyboard, NOP.

[Tecmos Deception]

I'm 100% confident, no bard can pull and kill burning woods faster than a Chardok group can do a pull.

Bard has to have more skill, good Internet, and spends more time pulling and killing.

AE group you cast the same 1-3 spells over and over for 2 minutes then AFK for 15.

You may level faster if we are talking about time online... But if we are talking time at the keyboard, NOP.

Yeah, I think we just weren't quite on the same page. I agree you can't do a decent pull in BW faster than a pull in chardok. What I was thinking is that a good bard in BW will earn more XP per hour for a PBAEer PLee (a LOT more) than a chardok group could earn per hour for a proxy... at least until 55 when so much of the zone is green/light blue and you can't probably kill wurms or giants anymore without low-hp kiting.

[fishingme]

20minutes to pull entire zone, 10minutes to kill the kite, as bard. I recall wiping a decent amount in chardok AOE groups, but that was when chardok aoeing was nearly brand new. Think the only time i ever died on an aoe kite on my bard was when someone decided to ddos the server for a week.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

What an enormous waste of time and money outside 59.

[Daldaen]

Yeah, I think we just weren't quite on the same page. I agree you can't do a decent pull in BW faster than a pull in chardok. What I was thinking is that a good bard in BW will earn more XP per hour for a PBAEer PLee (a LOT more) than a chardok group could earn per hour for a proxy... at least until 55 when so much of the zone is green/light blue and you can't probably kill wurms or giants anymore without low-hp kiting.

Yea true. But you must also consider... How many 50-60 bards are there on the server capable of such a pull/powerlevel, and how often are they accessible?

Then consider how many can do the cleric, puller, enchanter or out of group DPS role? And how often Proxy slots are up for sale?

I'd imagine convenience factors in quite a bit. You can AFK at entrance without having to worry about roamers or your invis dropping, really only need to check back every 2 hours when it's your cycle out. Etc.

[Porcoa]

Yea true. But you must also consider... How many 50-60 bards are there on the server capable of such a pull/powerlevel, and how often are they accessible?

Aphadavid is a beast in BW. If anyone is looking for a PL there, hit him up.

[daasgoot]

just an update for anyone that cares...

Traded PLing my buddies alt for 2 pulls in chardok.

Got 18% per pull at level 51. On both pulls there were about 125 merbs killed that i got EXP for.

Also, i have guildee's that will discount pulls to 1K per pull. So i might drop some coin, we'll see.

[Xer0]

What's a chardok pull? Some sort of aoe train thing for people wanting to skip the funnest levels? :)

for people who want to skip the funnest level and have more platthan sense.

[Daldaen]

Eh... Grouping is pretty boring. Especially 6 person, tank/cleric/slower groups.

If your tank has taunt, you are pulling singles and you have a slower, I'd rather be AFK reading 50 shades of gray.

If your tank is an interesting class/pet, your pulling class is pulling enough mobs that your CC is having to keep up with multiple mezzes and roots, and you are struggling to stay alive, sign me up.

If there are more PCs in camp than NPCs, I'm probably gonna fall asleep and leave the group :/.

[Ikonoclastia]

Eh... Grouping is pretty boring. Especially 6 person, tank/cleric/slower groups.

If your tank has taunt, you are pulling singles and you have a slower, I'd rather be AFK reading 50 shades of gray.

If your tank is an interesting class/pet, your pulling class is pulling enough mobs that your CC is having to keep up with multiple mezzes and roots, and you are struggling to stay alive, sign me up.

If there are more PCs in camp than NPCs, I'm probably gonna fall asleep and leave the group :/.
Depends why you're in the group. Always had fun in groups on live because group members were friends. If you're just in group to get experience / loot then should have rolled a solo class and farmed pp for gear, cause you'll level faster solo'ing.

Doesn't bother me if people are skipping levels to get to 60 so they can sit around LFG but its difficult to understand why you'd skip most of the game while reading 50 shades of gray...

Also could you really pull 100 mobs and aoe them on live in Kunark era. We were still doing raids in Chardok after Velious for epic mobs and we're pretty well geared from ToV and I don't recall anyone being able to do that?

[Daldaen]

Cause you want to raid on that class and don't have any interest in a 20 hour grind group to get half a level in Sebilis?

[Tecmos Deception]

for people who want to skip the funnest level and have more platthan sense.

Spoken like someone without multiple 60s or much plat ;)

[Tecmos Deception]

Depends why you're in the group. Always had fun in groups on live because group members were friends.

It's not like people buy chardok proxies and then quit the character when it hits 60. They aren't skipping anything that they don't want to skip.

Why is the concept of "everyone plays to have fun, but different things are fun to different people" so hard for so many of you to understand?

[Ikonoclastia]

It's not like people buy chardok proxies and then quit the character when it hits 60. They aren't skipping anything that they don't want to skip.

Why is the concept of "everyone plays to have fun, but different things are fun to different people" so hard for so many of you to understand?
Its not hard to understand that people want to get 60 asap its hard to understand why they want to get to 60 so bad they'd skip most of the content of the game and spend enormous amounts of plat to do it.

Why is so hard for you to understand that I don't understand?

[daasgoot]

Why is the concept of "everyone plays to have fun, but different things are fun to different people" so hard for so many of you to understand?

Completely agree. If you are having a good time, then you are doing it right. Even if what you are doing is different than what someone else is having fun doing.

Personally I enjoy duoing or trioing with friends exploring content that challenges us. Creating class combo's to try out and see what we can get away with. Make daring escapes, destroying a dungeon we didn't know that we could, or figuring out how the hell we are going to get our corpses.

If ive made some cash, and want to spend it on skipping a few of the high levels because i don't feel like grinding.. am i doing it wrong? Am I going to have a bad time? no...

[daasgoot]

Why is so hard for you to understand that I don't understand?

I don't understand why you don't understand why he doesn't understand that you don't understand.. understand?

[Tecmos Deception]

Its not hard to understand that people want to get 60 asap its hard to understand why they want to get to 60 so bad they'd skip most of the content of the game and spend enormous amounts of plat to do it.

Am I to understand that you thoroughly explore every inch of every zone that is remotely appropriate for you at every single level all the way from 1-60? Or do you, in actuality, "skip" a huge amount of this game also?

If you actually do eat xp deaths on purpose at level 1 so that you can make sure you don't "skip" the experience of seeing each and every noobie area as a level 1 with each and every new character you make... then I do apologize.

:rolleyes:

[Ikonoclastia]

Completely agree. If you are having a good time, then you are doing it right. Even if what you are doing is different than what someone else is having fun doing.

Personally I enjoy duoing or trioing with friends exploring content that challenges us. Creating class combo's to try out and see what we can get away with. Make daring escapes, destroying a dungeon we didn't know that we could, or figuring out how the hell we are going to get our corpses.

If ive made some cash, and want to spend it on skipping a few of the high levels because i don't feel like grinding.. am i doing it wrong? Am I going to have a bad time? no...
Don't be so defensive. I didn't criticize you I just said I don't understand why you would want to do it. Why not go on one of the other servers and not even worry about leveling? The whole point of EQ was leveling and grouping so not liking it is kind of interesting but each to their own.

[Ikonoclastia]

Am I to understand that you thoroughly explore every inch of every zone that is remotely appropriate for you at every single level all the way from 1-60? Or do you, in actuality, "skip" a huge amount of this game also?

If you actually do eat xp deaths on purpose at level 1 so that you can make sure you don't "skip" the experience of seeing each and every noobie area as a level 1 with each and every new character you make... then I do apologize.

:rolleyes:
Lol touched a nerve did I :)

Also there's no xp death at level 1... this is why you need to learn to play I guess and skip the regen, fungi, manastone and thorns during those levels?

[Tecmos Deception]

Why not go on one of the other servers and not even worry about leveling? ... but each to their own.

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[Lojik]

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[Lazie]

I'm 100% confident, no bard can pull and kill burning woods faster than a Chardok group can do a pull.

Bard has to have more skill, good Internet, and spends more time pulling and killing.

AE group you cast the same 1-3 spells over and over for 2 minutes then AFK for 15.

You may level faster if we are talking about time online... But if we are talking time at the keyboard, NOP.

You would be wrong. Big difference BW is an outdoor zone so as soon as you get a pull dead everything is already respawning. You average 2.5 pulls an hour in chardok.... In BW you can probably do 4 to 5 depending on the bard and whether he gets tired too quickly. You basically spend just as much time at the keyboard just more at once and get your xp faster since you aren't sitting in a full group. Chardok is good for going all the way to 60...BW slows down around 57 or 58 and starts to crawl.

[daasgoot]

Don't be so defensive. I didn't criticize you I just said I don't understand why you would want to do it. Why not go on one of the other servers and not even worry about leveling? The whole point of EQ was leveling and grouping so not liking it is kind of interesting but each to their own.

The point of EQ is to have fun.. nobody said you have to do it with a FULL group of randoms. The EXP gains/lvl gains are a byproduct for me. When it comes to sitting in LCY for the next 40 hours just to get levels, no i don't consider that fun.

I am spending money that i worked for(and had fun doing it). I therefore still feel a sense of accomplishment by gaining those levels, even if it is through purchasing AE proxy instead of sitting in a mind numbing grind every night for a few weeks.

I am not trying to be defensive, or argumentative. Just expressing my feeeeeels. ya know?

[Lazie]

Don't be so defensive. I didn't criticize you I just said I don't understand why you would want to do it. Why not go on one of the other servers and not even worry about leveling? The whole point of EQ was leveling and grouping so not liking it is kind of interesting but each to their own.

To some. Being 60 and farming cash camps and raiding is important to others. You can't stick EQ in your box and say everyone should play it this way.

[webrunner5]

I can sort of understand why someone wants to get to level 46 so they can go into the Plain of Fear, etc and do Guildie stuff and get better Armour. But to race to level 60???

Hell, What for. Being level 60 sort of sucks to be the truth. What do you do then? by then you have some pretty killer ass gear if you are lucky with some rolls. Even when Velious come out for real hell that is the end folks. Guess what 60 is STILL as high as you can go in Velious. And all the good zones with be locked up for months by TMO, etc. THere is only like 4 or 5 zones I can think of off the top of my heard that are worth even going to and have fun as a 60. Crazy people.

[Daldaen]

Well for me...

I'd like a level 60 to have available for Plane of Growth. My main is a Druid, and I don't want to deal with the faction loss on him. So I'm leveling a dark elf cleric.

I also would like to have a character bound in PoMischief. Personally I despise the zone, however the clicky flowers are quite useful so I'd like to be able to farm some of that stuff. Debating between an iksar necro or high elf enchanter for this job.

Lastly I'd like to have a Naggy/Vox character. Debating between a few options right now, but most I'm thinking about aren't great soloers and as mentioned above full-standard groups bore me unless with friends.

Eventually having a giant allied character will be useful and I'd like to have one of those dudes too...

So many options, not enough time or patience to solo them all. So instead, AE group. So that when raids happen or Velious happens and I want to so X, or a guild group needs Y, I can likely fill that void from my menagerie of characters.

[Ikonoclastia]

Well for me...

I'd like a level 60 to have available for Plane of Growth. My main is a Druid, and I don't want to deal with the faction loss on him. So I'm leveling a dark elf cleric.

I also would like to have a character bound in PoMischief. Personally I despise the zone, however the clicky flowers are quite useful so I'd like to be able to farm some of that stuff. Debating between an iksar necro or high elf enchanter for this job.

Lastly I'd like to have a Naggy/Vox character. Debating between a few options right now, but most I'm thinking about aren't great soloers and as mentioned above full-standard groups bore me unless with friends.

Eventually having a giant allied character will be useful and I'd like to have one of those dudes too...

So many options, not enough time or patience to solo them all. So instead, AE group. So that when raids happen or Velious happens and I want to so X, or a guild group needs Y, I can likely fill that void from my menagerie of characters.
Yeah each to their own. I'm a single character person myself, on live I played a chanter and never rolled any other character in the 4 years I played. This time playing an enchanter again and likely will be the only character I play too.

Of course on live we were in a raiding guild and were required to log on 30 hours per week minimum and often had to multi-box other peoples chars so I think that put me off other characters. Second job type of thing.

[Daldaen]

To each their own indeed.

I love being the jack-of-all-trades. Druids / Bards are great for jack of all trades as a single class, but after years on the server it's nice to be able to create Alts to fill roles your main can't.

It's the same I've done on Live and on Mac server before here. On Mac I was getting close to having a 65 of every class and most were elemental flagged / VT keyed. Curse SOE for taking down the best server they ever made.

[fishingme]

Eh... Grouping is pretty boring. Especially 6 person, tank/cleric/slower groups.

If your tank has taunt, you are pulling singles and you have a slower, I'd rather be AFK reading 50 shades of gray.

If your tank is an interesting class/pet, your pulling class is pulling enough mobs that your CC is having to keep up with multiple mezzes and roots, and you are struggling to stay alive, sign me up.

If there are more PCs in camp than NPCs, I'm probably gonna fall asleep and leave the group :/.

stop fighting blues and start grouping to fight even/yellow cons.

[Tecmos Deception]

I can sort of understand why someone wants to get to level 46 so they can go into the Plain of Fear, etc and do Guildie stuff and get better Armour. But to race to level 60???

Hell, What for. Being level 60 sort of sucks to be the truth. What do you do then? by then you have some pretty killer ass gear if you are lucky with some rolls. Even when Velious come out for real hell that is the end folks. Guess what 60 is STILL as high as you can go in Velious. And all the good zones with be locked up for months by TMO, etc. THere is only like 4 or 5 zones I can think of off the top of my heard that are worth even going to and have fun as a 60. Crazy people.

Levels are just one of the things to do in EQ. Being 60 means no more dings, but it means you are better at literally everything else you can do, and many things that wouldn't be feasible for even a level 59 become possible for a 60.

[Cecily]

Like look down at everyone else not 60. Can't do that at 59.

[Swish]

Swish, I'm not really sure what you are getting at... but fuck you.

:D come to red!

[daasgoot]

:D come to red!

I have a 20 wiz and 20 bard on red.. but all of my precious pixels and friends are on blue.

Maybe some day...

[Adolphus]

First of all, let's not forget that we're playing a 15 year old elf simulator here. Substantial numbers of people have already done all of content there is to do in Everquest . . . over and over and over again. So for many people they will not be missing content by skipping levels . . .

Second, when a player is 54+, said player can do literally every XP and loot camp that is available multiple times over and still never hit level 60. Do the critics here even realize how long it takes to get to 60? I guarantee that a person can do an AOE group for a few levels and still miss nothing special (unless you consider repetitive grinding special). I'm sure players can still experience the explosion of masochistic bliss in Sebilis/HS if they skip level 58. ;)

Third, players here have different objectives. If a player wants to have a level 60 for high-end raiding or camps and then roll something else isn't that valid? Maybe getting to 60 is only one small objective of many? I have so many goals on this server that I will probably never have enough time to accomplish them all. Hell, I even have a level 20 Ranger that I play with my own unique rule-set: no twinked gear, no help from friends, no power-level, nothing . . . yet on all my 50+ characters I am a min-maxing whore. So what?

TLDR: There's nothing wrong with people who do Chardok AOE and Bard PL's at higher levels.

[fullmetalcoxman]

It's everquest, the entire game is one huge repetitive grind. You think the devs decided that by the time a few classes hit 56 they've had enough grinding, and they decided to make the last few levels easy mode? Or maybe they just felt sorry for wizards.

But hey, they figured out a way to cheat the system, good for them I guess.

[fastboy21]

First of all, let's not forget that we're playing a 15 year old elf simulator here. Substantial numbers of people have already done all of content there is to do in Everquest . . . over and over and over again. So for many people they will not be missing content by skipping levels . . .

Second, when a player is 54+, said player can do literally every XP and loot camp that is available multiple times over and still never hit level 60. Do the critics here even realize how long it takes to get to 60? I guarantee that a person can do an AOE group for a few levels and still miss nothing special (unless you consider repetitive grinding special). I'm sure players can still experience the explosion of masochistic bliss in Sebilis/HS if they skip level 58. ;)

Third, players here have different objectives. If a player wants to have a level 60 for high-end raiding or camps and then roll something else isn't that valid? Maybe getting to 60 is only one small objective of many? I have so many goals on this server that I will probably never have enough time to accomplish them all. Hell, I even have a level 20 Ranger that I play with my own unique rule-set: no twinked gear, no help from friends, no power-level, nothing . . . yet on all my 50+ characters I am a min-maxing whore. So what?

TLDR: There's nothing wrong with people who do Chardok AOE and Bard PL's at higher levels.

The only problem I have with this thinking is that EQ doesn't start at lvl60...playing EQ, for me, has always been about just playing---whether raiding high end at max level or level grinding a toon.

Leveling to 60 is playing EQ. If you don't like that part of the game I'm not sure what exciting future is awaiting you on a (once velious is out) static server.

[Adolphus]

It's everquest, the entire game is one huge repetitive grind. You think the devs decided that by the time a few classes hit 56 they've had enough grinding, and they decided to make the last few levels easy mode? Or maybe they just felt sorry for wizards.

But hey, they figured out a way to cheat the system, good for them I guess.

I forgot to mention this in the last post. I don't think it's cheating the system either. Why? Because it involves the economy. If someone earns 50,000 PP in the game, for example (which is not as easy as some people make it sound) and said player wants to spend that entire wad of cash on leveling up a bit, was it not earned experience?

I would think that for most players it would be a big decision to liquidate a nice item like a Hiero Cloak, for example, just to level ding 1-2 more levels. That's valid to me.

I think there are two perceived (and sometimes correct) problems with PLing here that are warping people's judgement on this to a significant degree:

1) Assumptions that players paying for PL are using the money from RMT sources

2) PLing that is disruptive and damaging to other players trying to enjoy content/experience

In both of the above cases I think offenders should be heavily disciplined. Even permanently banned. Especially people who PL in newbie/low level zones and try to exploit the ignorance of new/uninformed players that don't report them. That is especially egregious.

[Adolphus]

The only problem I have with this thinking is that EQ doesn't start at lvl60...playing EQ, for me, has always been about just playing---whether raiding high end at max level or level grinding a toon.

Leveling to 60 is playing EQ. If you don't like that part of the game I'm not sure what exciting future is awaiting you on a (once velious is out) static server.

I thought I gave a great example in my post of how it's possible to have different goals for different people. Getting to 60 on one toon may be a single goal out of many for some people. I know that when I get Adolphus to 60 I will probably park him for raids and play other characters. I will enjoy accomplishing this. Just an example.

[Ikonoclastia]

First of all, let's not forget that we're playing a 15 year old elf simulator here. Substantial numbers of people have already done all of content there is to do in Everquest . . . over and over and over again. So for many people they will not be missing content by skipping levels . . .

Second, when a player is 54+, said player can do literally every XP and loot camp that is available multiple times over and still never hit level 60. Do the critics here even realize how long it takes to get to 60? I guarantee that a person can do an AOE group for a few levels and still miss nothing special (unless you consider repetitive grinding special). I'm sure players can still experience the explosion of masochistic bliss in Sebilis/HS if they skip level 58. ;)

Third, players here have different objectives. If a player wants to have a level 60 for high-end raiding or camps and then roll something else isn't that valid? Maybe getting to 60 is only one small objective of many? I have so many goals on this server that I will probably never have enough time to accomplish them all. Hell, I even have a level 20 Ranger that I play with my own unique rule-set: no twinked gear, no help from friends, no power-level, nothing . . . yet on all my 50+ characters I am a min-maxing whore. So what?

TLDR: There's nothing wrong with people who do Chardok AOE and Bard PL's at higher levels.
Nobody said there was anything wrong with it I don't think.

However I doubt anyone has done all the content there is. I played for years and didn't manage to do all the content even on one character.

Also sure you can go and do what the guide I just read suggests -

Level to 46 as soon as possible, don't do anything interesting just level.
Then go to OOT and sit there for weeks farming plat.
Then take that plat to the EC tunnel and sit there for weeks trading to make more plat.
Then sit in the EC tunnel for even more weeks and trade high end gear occasionally going to a dungeon and duo'ing trivial mobs for more plat.
Then go raid with like minded individuals for more loot.
Then go to Chardok and train the whole zone on yourself to PL some newb for more plat.
..

Personally I'd much prefer to actually play the game. :)

[Ikonoclastia]

It's everquest, the entire game is one huge repetitive grind. You think the devs decided that by the time a few classes hit 56 they've had enough grinding, and they decided to make the last few levels easy mode? Or maybe they just felt sorry for wizards.

But hey, they figured out a way to cheat the system, good for them I guess.
You couldn't train Chardok to the entrance and AOE it down in Kunark. Its definitely not something that was done in Classic EQ.

I think likely its got something to do with the way the server was setup disregarding that people would exploit the knowledge of what was OP and what was going to be nerfed and when.

[Adolphus]

Nobody said there was anything wrong with it I don't think.

However I doubt anyone has done all the content there is. I played for years and didn't manage to do all the content even on one character.

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Personally I'd much prefer to actually play the game. :)

I wish that were the case for me. At least regarding XP camps. If there are some 50+ xp camps that I haven't done, I don't know where they are. And I've looked into it . . . a lot.

[fullmetalcoxman]

Jyll's Wave of Heat- 342 mana. A 120 mob chardok pull makes that a 75,000 damage spell. Actually more than that, but I'm assuming they get some resists.

75,000 damage. That seems like a bit of an oversight to me.

[Ikonoclastia]

I wish that were the case for me. At least regarding XP camps. If there are some 50+ xp camps that I haven't done, I don't know where they are. And I've looked into it . . . a lot.
I guess it depends on your personality. For me XP is a side of effect of my game play, I don't play exclusively just to XP. Its not like its pleasant in the raiding scene with contested mobs, loot whores and bank thieves.

Haven't played high end on this server but I imagine its similiar.

I'm really curious how the puller manages to survive the pull. Anyone know how its done? The only thing I can think of is dot pulling with CoH?

[Man0warr]

Depending the class pulling, you are never near the mobs when pulling. You use a series of pet pulls/roots, and then after you run up and get healed by the cleric, you feigndeath or gate.

Pullers have good faction with Chardok to be able to get deep down to do pulls.

[Ikonoclastia]

Depending the class pulling, you are never near the mobs when pulling. You use a series of pet pulls/roots, and then after you run up and get healed by the cleric, you feigndeath or gate.

Pullers have good faction with Chardok to be able to get deep down to do pulls.
That sounds kind of weird. If your pet pulls while your far away when the pet dies the mob goes back to its spawn. Even if your healed while the pet is fighting the aggro from the heal won't transfer to the healer until the pet dies.

The roots I can understand since you have direct aggro.

[Man0warr]

No, the mobs come for you after killing pet.

[Ikonoclastia]

No, the mobs come for you after killing pet.
Edit: Actually was thinking of something else... green pet pulling.. nm :)