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applesauce25r624
05-19-2014, 03:28 PM
when trying to time my canni dancing, i'll watch my hp/mana raise before i cannibalize

it will change 3 times in 3 seconds (i'm guessing stupid UI glitch)

do i wait until all 3 hp/mana changes are complete, cast, then sit again real fast?

Ele
05-19-2014, 03:35 PM
I'm not a shaman, but it might be easier after the global cooldown patch to just keep 2 versions memmed and use an instant clickie between casts and go rapid fire.

Potus
05-19-2014, 04:17 PM
I have this same issue, the UI will randomly stop reporting ticks correctly.

My solution so far is to cannibalize between DoT damage messages -- DoTs tick every six seconds.

applesauce25r624
05-19-2014, 05:43 PM
thank you guys for the replies :D

lecompte
05-19-2014, 06:30 PM
The ticks are actually about a second and a half off for some reason, you wait for a tick to happen, count 1 2, click your canni macro.

At level 60, You wanna do what Ele said and just get an insta clicky to spam canni. Basically you canni II, click an insta clicky, Canni III, insta clicky. I don't know if this is efficient before torpor. Seems like Canni-ing to heal yourself maybe be ineffecient compared to just traditional canni dance.

Daldaen
05-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Canni dancing confirmed not classic on account of the inability to see mana pool until LoY.

Potus
05-19-2014, 08:50 PM
Canni dancing confirmed not classic on account of the inability to see mana pool until LoY.

http://i.imgur.com/EbJSySJ.jpg

Wrong. Canni dancing as classic as it gets. HPs tick, you stand and cast. Repeat.

Daldaen
05-19-2014, 09:05 PM
Would love to see any classic reference to Canni Dancing.

Also worth noting, when meditating, couldn't see HP value, just the bar and seeing that tick was near impossible:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/EQ000070.jpg

Rika
05-19-2014, 09:25 PM
Well...this post from 2003 suggests canni dancing existed pre luclin and mounts. I canni danced back then and I'm sure other Shaman done it too :- /

http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3729.html

Remember back then post lvl 35 you didn't have to stare at book.

Potus
05-19-2014, 09:32 PM
Would love to see any classic reference to Canni Dancing.

Also worth noting, when meditating, couldn't see HP value, just the bar and seeing that tick was near impossible:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/EQ000070.jpg

You can post 35. Also tick wasn't that hard to see on the bars.

Also here's classic reference to canni dancing. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010714083909/http://everlore.com/magic/Magic.asp?ID=4059&mode=details&spname=Cannibalize&type=)

If you know how to Cannibalize properly, hit points won't fall and mana will come back fast. Most shamans know how to do this, but a ton still can't figure it out so I'll explain it.

With cannibalize memmed and regen or better on you wait for the tick (when mana and HPs go up)while sitting, then stand, cast, and sit. Keep repeating and mana will come back faster and hit points won't fall behind if you do it right. You can also make a hotkey for the whole procedure.

Remember the tick. That is when your hitpoints and mana go up while sitting or standing. More if you're sitting. If you see it tick, then cast and sit down and it will tick again and you will not get penalized for standing. If your regen is up to par with the amount of hitpoints that fall behind, then it will equal out the next tick and that will make cannibalize efficient an you won't lose hitpoints. It's all about timing and it takes a little patience and understanding. Once you get it down right and you see how much mana goes up you'll be doing this your whole experience as a shaman.

With the new commands, the bounce regenning/cannibilize becomes that much easier.

I have /cast 6 on one hotkey (My cannibilize spell slot), and /book on another hotkey. That way just hit the /book key, and auto-meditate, then when you see it tic, press the Cannibilize button, and as soon as it fires, press the /book button again. Works like a charm. Pretty noisy though...

2001 and 2000 respectively.

Daldaen
05-19-2014, 09:37 PM
Well done at ClassicQuest sir. You have bested me. Didn't remember shamans doing it and didn't recall the ticks being visible on bars. But appears classic. Confirmed.

Potus
05-19-2014, 09:38 PM
Well done at ClassicQuest sir. You have bested me. Didn't remember shamans doing it and didn't recall the ticks being visible on bars. But appears classic. Confirmed.

Dude I'm laughing hard at your screenshot of people complaining about Blizzard circa 2004ish? That was worth this classquest investigation, alone. :o

Spaceships and big goofy shoulderpads, damn you, Korea!!!!!

Daldaen
05-19-2014, 09:53 PM
Haha that screenshot is actually 2012~. Just was from the Mac server where you could have the true classic UI if you opted for it.

But yea lol, that alliance chat was entertaining some nights. Makes me miss chat channels. But... not classic.

Somekid123
05-19-2014, 10:09 PM
Off topic but I never realized, look at the monks Fire Resist, its Heat.

Das Classic

Daldaen
05-20-2014, 08:16 AM
Oh DAYUM!

Heat Resist. Make it so!

Tecmos Deception
05-22-2014, 07:47 AM
when trying to time my canni dancing, i'll watch my hp/mana raise before i cannibalize

it will change 3 times in 3 seconds (i'm guessing stupid UI glitch)

do i wait until all 3 hp/mana changes are complete, cast, then sit again real fast?

One of the times your mana number changes, it will go up by 1.

When it goes up by 1, canni, then sit back down. You'll get your med tick.


At least this is how I dance with my manna robe on Tecmos and see positive results.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-22-2014, 09:24 AM
I use the default ui and start casting when my my mana bar increases by a %. I find the mana point numbers actually move more than the %bar which gives the false impression a tick has passed.

Ymmv

Furniture
05-22-2014, 09:31 AM
Canni, then sit, wait for both mana update changes, and repeat. it is not hard. Don't waste a spell slot with canni 2.