View Full Version : Solo xp still brutal
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 11:30 AM
I think the difference between 6 man and solo is too high.
Im getting less than 1% per dark blue kill in Gfay.
That means 120+ kills for level 4 to 5.
Im happy about the group bonus changes but i dont know, tweak the solo xp a bit and make it less brutal. The way it is, means that if people log in a dead zone, see that theres nobody and log off instead of wasting their time trying to solo. 10mins later, someone else logs on and see 0 people in Gfay, waits 15mins, logs off to. Chain reaction of logging off.
Its still 50% than on blue but still slow as fuck and boring solo, which blue tempers with a bigger population.
Im not asking for a big change, just something less brutal. Maybe give solo the same bonus you get when theres 2 people grouping.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 11:34 AM
My point is that if soloers xp is not so excessively brutal, they will stick around till the next guy logs on, and it will make a chain reaction of grouping instead of a chain reaction of logging off.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 11:39 AM
Its actually 5 dark blues mobs per 1% xp at level 4 if you kill wasp drones, bats, black wolves. Most orcs are too dangerous for me and ive got a regen rubi breastplate and a couple of twink items on.
So something like 300-500 mobs to get from level 4 to level 5.
Softcore PK
05-17-2014, 11:42 AM
Lol with twink gear you should be in CB at ent, taking down those orcs solo. Especially with regen jeez.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 11:43 AM
Personally i got tired of hitting my head on the wall and hoping somebody logs on after grinding hard to 51% of level 4. So next people logs on... you get the point.
Gaanon
05-17-2014, 11:49 AM
I bet you're fucking desperate for that person to log on and add him to your group, actively looking for others, and not just killing anyone for the lawlz because it doesn't effect you?
Working as intended IMO.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 11:56 AM
I bet you're fucking desperate for that person to log on and add him to your group, actively looking for others, and not just killing anyone for the lawlz because it doesn't effect you?
Working as intended IMO.
Im not sure what youre implying, i played from 2 to 3 with 2 other persons hours ago but they logged off
Gaanon
05-17-2014, 12:01 PM
You're level 4 with a playtime of a few hrs? You'll find people don't worry pal.
Softcore PK
05-17-2014, 12:07 PM
Run the mail quest a few times. You'll be 5 and have a few plat in no time.
Naeyi
05-17-2014, 12:10 PM
yeah rubi bp twink needs help xping okay
no reason you aren't able to kill at orc hill, cents start being yellow and blue around 4-5
if you twinked yourself with a rubi bp and not a weapon well I just don't know what to say other than you are a very dumb rich
Slathar
05-17-2014, 12:22 PM
yeah rubi bp twink needs help xping okay
no reason you aren't able to kill at orc hill, cents start being yellow and blue around 4-5
if you twinked yourself with a rubi bp and not a weapon well I just don't know what to say other than you are a very dumb rich
Who are you?
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 12:27 PM
yeah rubi bp twink needs help xping okay
no reason you aren't able to kill at orc hill, cents start being yellow and blue around 4-5
if you twinked yourself with a rubi bp and not a weapon well I just don't know what to say other than you are a very dumb rich
Or i started this character today, twinked it with what i had on hand, and that your one of the numerous toxics taking residence in this server.
Orc hill are yellows and reds at 4, the ones that were spawned.
And im mentioning im a twink precisely because everyone isnt twinked, its not about me.
Nubben
05-17-2014, 12:31 PM
At level 4 you need to be killing mobs higher than level 1, that's your problem. Kill level 3-4 mobs, watch your exp bar actually move.
element08
05-17-2014, 12:35 PM
Who are you?
names are on the left next to every post.
Rellapse40
05-17-2014, 12:45 PM
He took 2 many hormone pills trying to become like his twin a ugly tranny Azure so he cannot read the names now
Naeyi
05-17-2014, 12:57 PM
Or i started this character today, twinked it with what i had on hand, and that your one of the numerous toxics taking residence in this server.
Orc hill are yellows and reds at 4, the ones that were spawned.
And im mentioning im a twink precisely because everyone isnt twinked, its not about me.
Fair enough in regards to other non-twinked people having a harder time. You still should be able to take yellows if you are twinked at all. My same statement applies, if you gave yourself a rubi bp without a weapon, you did something horribly wrong.
Those first couple of levels are slower, just how it goes. Definitely don't just grind level 1 wasps for hours and expect to level though as someone already mentioned. Pull a yellow, kill it or die. Train the reds to orc lift to get better spawns. Do something to break orc hill so you can reliably single pull and expect lower pops.
Newbie population 2-3am is really the major problem here. Very few people decide to make new characters at such an off time. I doubt we'd see solo xp bumped, it's already +50% is it not? My understanding of old / new mod is to discourage people from PLing 1-55 in a day. Will there be a side effect of sometimes solo for non-optimal xp? Yeah, but you're still +50% classic.
Softcore PK
05-17-2014, 01:02 PM
CB orcs are mostly single pulls around ent, and you get bonus for it being a "dungeon" I'm pretty sure. Always better than the hill.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 01:12 PM
Newbie population 2-3am is really the major problem here. Very few people decide to make new characters at such an off time. I doubt we'd see solo xp bumped, it's already +50% is it not? My understanding of old / new mod is to discourage people from PLing 1-55 in a day. Will there be a side effect of sometimes solo for non-optimal xp? Yeah, but you're still +50% classic.
To me as long as its still substancially better to be in a 4-6 person group, i dont see the harm in making it like i suggested, as if you were 2 in a group.
Telron
05-17-2014, 01:30 PM
XP is fine how it is. /cheers
Gaanon
05-17-2014, 01:44 PM
To me as long as its still substancially better to be in a 4-6 person group, i dont see the harm in making it like i suggested, as if you were 2 in a group.
The problem is you're level 4, with no knowledge of how it was before, or you're a troll.
Before there was a strong global EXP bonus - and it resulted in people preferring to be PL'd, or solo, and then people would just kill others as they don't help them.
Reverting the GRP bonus back would be catastrophic, and the fact that you're hoping others to log on and group with is the proof.
Shits working good, find some people to grp with.
Kergan
05-17-2014, 01:44 PM
Exp intentionally shitty for solo players, way it should be.
Naeyi
05-17-2014, 02:02 PM
To me as long as its still substancially better to be in a 4-6 person group, i dont see the harm in making it like i suggested, as if you were 2 in a group.
Then base XP would be +90% and there would be no incentive to group until you had three people. Don't assume people would group 'just because' especially when giving a single player more effective PL than +50% already is. A duo would have no benefit of leveling together and if one were a hybrid (until velious) your xp would be worse than solo.
Kergan
05-17-2014, 05:11 PM
Soloing still better than it was pre buff, but you are missing out on the fun unless you find some friends. Perfectly executed by staff IMO.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 06:54 PM
Soloing still better than it was pre buff, but you are missing out on the fun unless you find some friends. Perfectly executed by staff IMO.
But thats the point of the thread. Im not talking about the times where you find a group. Im talking when its saturday morning and you see 2 people pass through from 8 to 12
Eslade
05-17-2014, 07:46 PM
I really beleive that most of this community would whine if you were about to hang them with an old rope.
XP is fine, stop playing at weird hours or get your friends to play at those hours or tough it out.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 08:01 PM
I really beleive that most of this community would whine if you were about to hang them with an old rope.
XP is fine, stop playing at weird hours or get your friends to play at those hours or tough it out.
I really beleive some not so bright people out there label alot of things as crying when in fact its not.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-17-2014, 08:01 PM
Saturday morning today and I had a full group from 8 till noon or later. It gets better after level 4 trust me.
Eslade
05-17-2014, 08:02 PM
I really beleive some not so bright people out there label alot of things as crying when in fact its not.
who are you?
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 08:03 PM
Saturday morning today and I had a full group from 8 till noon or later. It gets better after level 4 trust me.
Its not about me, its for the new people starting out. Im playing an alt, im settled.
The server is on the right path, just needs a little extra nudging.
Heyitsme
05-17-2014, 08:10 PM
Reverting the GRP bonus back would be catastrophic, and the fact that you're hoping others to log on and group with is the proof.
Shits working good, find some people to grp with.
Do you read posts before posting your opinion on it?
Who the fuck talked about reverting the group xp, me? Certainly not.
Do i enjoy grouping with people more than soloing? Yeah. Was there people to group with this morning from 8 to 12? Barely any.
Eslade
05-17-2014, 08:25 PM
Do you read posts before posting your opinion on it?
Who the fuck talked about reverting the group xp, me? Certainly not.
Do i enjoy grouping with people more than soloing? Yeah. Was there people to group with this morning from 8 to 12? Barely any.
what exactly are you trying to say? do you want a higher bonus for soloing just because you can't find people?
as someone that solo'd my way to 40 and a bit beyond as a cleric, let me play the world's smallest violin for you.
thread sucks and certainly sounds like complaining.
Obwin
05-17-2014, 09:01 PM
Log on beta, free 60 with epic.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 09:00 AM
what exactly are you trying to say? do you want a higher bonus for soloing just because you can't find people?
Yes, that is exactly what im trying to say. Not for me personally, but for everyone logging in.
Again this morning, 0 people in Gfay, 3 persons in CB, outta range.
Stating this again because you seem hard of understanding, quick to insult, the bonus would be an incentive to stick around a bit more until the next person logs in, etc, etc.
As for why would someone duo when same xp solo, make it 5 or 10% less than duo, but i dont feel its necessary.
skorge
05-18-2014, 09:13 AM
I've been soloing since level 35, im almost 43 now...the solo exp you earn here is fine, but it's way less than if you were in a full group and all members were active. That's okay though.
The main reason I've soloed 35+ is to max my skills. My skills were lacking because I was leveling up so fast via groups, so I decided to step back and focus on my skills. When I hit 45 I will go back to grouping.
I know what you are saying though, but the reason they did this is to encourage people to group. I'm glad they did it this way. If anything you can always grab some leechers to boost your exp, however be careful of adding hybrid classes to leech with you, me and a friend has noticed negative exp gains by adding hybrids to your leeching group.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 09:17 AM
I know what you are saying though, but the reason they did this is to encourage people to group. I'm glad they did it this way. If anything you can always grab some leechers to boost your exp, however be careful of adding hybrid classes to leech with you, me and a friend has noticed negative exp gains by adding hybrids to your leeching group.
Thats exactly the thinking that isnt mine.
Im not trying to min max xp, i like grouping. I dont care if its slower a bit than soloing, its more fun.
My proposition goes along with what the rule mechanics want to encourage, grouping. It just makes soloing less tedious at low levels were population is lacking, to make people stick around a bit more until groups can be formed.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 09:53 AM
With the 4 hours of yesterday hard grind solo, today i could only take 30 mins of it. Because xp in group is so leaps and bounds better than solo, i feel like im wasting my time (more so, its boring). So im logging off to my main unfortunately, when i want to play my lowbie.
There will probably be people late afternoon, but what happens to me now will probably happen to other people. Log in, oh theres nobody, log off instead of stickin it out till someone else comes along. Like i was saying, it sets off a chain reaction of logging off, which a slightly better solo bonus would help prevent.
If some people in this thread dont seem to get it, i hope my point is not lost to devs and GMs.
Server is doing great, im happy about the group bonus mechanic, this is just a little tweak that would make the changes even more successful.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 10:06 AM
With the 4 hours of yesterday hard grind solo, today i could only take 30 mins of it. Because xp in group is so leaps and bounds better than solo, i feel like im wasting my time. So im logging off to my main unfortunately, when i want to play my lowbie.
There will probably be people late afternoon, but what happens to me now will probably happen to other people. Log in, oh theres nobody, log off instead of stickin it out till someone else comes along. Like i was saying, it sets off a chain reaction of logging off, which a slightly better solo bonus would help prevent.
If some people in this thread dont seem to get it, i hope my point is not lost to devs and GMs.
if you don't want to play here, sell your rubi bp and gtfo and go to blue. On blue you can group all day.
XP rate is fine, they're not going to change it because some snowflake thinks it's too slow for his taste.
Red server is not for the weak. You're going to really hate it when you're forced to lns out of your xp spot.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 10:13 AM
if you don't want to play here, sell your rubi bp and gtfo and go to blue. On blue you can group all day.
XP rate is fine, they're not going to change it because some snowflake thinks it's too slow for his taste.
Red server is not for the weak. You're going to really hate it when you're forced to lns out of your xp spot.
This kind of hateful, stupid chewie-like stuff is one of the reason why red was and is doing so badly (noting that it got a great boost with the group bonus xp mechanic). We need fresh new blood, group bonus a great step in the right direction toward that, my tweak would help it even more. The GMs and devs cant change the behavior of angry, bitter, hateful nerds like this guy, which are plentiful on the server. They can however attract new people to the server which could help marginalise these people.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 10:19 AM
This kind of hateful, stupid chewie-like stuff is one of the reason why red is doing so badly. We need fresh new blood, group bonus a great step in the right direction toward that, my tweak would help it even more.
no, your tweak will make it so that it's easier to solo than to group. The choice of whether to pvp or group will be back to pvp all players on sight. what you're suggesting is stupid, you just don't know it. The gm's have a good balance of solo to group xp and they're not going to spend the time to script the xp to scale by population.
play the game, enjoy your xp bonus, stop crying.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 10:22 AM
no, your tweak will make it so that it's easier to solo than to group.
Not at all, did i suggest something like 200% solo bonus? I suggested 5 or 10% less than duoing. Im done "discussing" with you.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 10:24 AM
Not at all, did i suggest something like 200% solo bonus? I suggested 5 or 10% less than duoing. Im done "discussing" with you.
lol nope, still a dumb idea.
play the game or go to blue if you're looking for full groups in east karana. This suggestion is half baked at best.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 10:44 AM
lol nope, still a dumb idea.
play the game or go to blue if you're looking for full groups in east karana. This suggestion is half baked at best.
"Its dumb" is not an argument against the idea by the way. Im talking about Gfay and crushbone being empty, and you say I want full groups in East Karana. Thats a textbook example of a dishonest interlocutor.
Insults last refuge of people who have no arguments, etc...
Rellapse40
05-18-2014, 10:47 AM
u dumb
rollin5k
05-18-2014, 10:56 AM
This is terrible post. Don't be like this dog
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 10:57 AM
u dumb
If i was derubael id go on a hunting spree for a week and forum permaban people who post shit like this outside of rants and flames. Forum makes red look bad.
If they dont get the message carrying over their next account, suspend their in-game account for a month. With a sustained effort like this it would clean a big part of forum behavior for a long time. Only the most dedicated trolls like Cast would keep it up. Temp bans on people once in a while just drains forum mods time and energy and has no lasting effect IMO. A 2 week drive push, with suspensions carried over to in-game IPs would have a lasting effect.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 11:03 AM
"Its dumb" is not an argument against the idea by the way. Im talking about Gfay and crushbone being empty, and you say I want full groups in East Karana. Thats a textbook example of a dishonest interlocutor.
Insults last refuge of people who have no arguments, etc...
it's dumb because you're ill informed. If they were to change xp rates to be closer, it wouldn't be to raise solo xp, it'd be to decrease group xp. but you already knew that after your two weeks in the server.
your argument is dumb and you should feel dumb.
Heavenzoutcast
05-18-2014, 11:25 AM
Heyitsme,
I haven't read though all these messages but I see a main point. The exp bonus was made to encourage grouping on red so people can level faster and have a community of people. Smaller then blue of course, but it's still there to encourage grouping, not soloing. You want them to boost solo exp when it was only put in for grouping in the first place. You don't get groups in gfay? Try another zone. The community isn't huge and you post things to get people to reply back with a negetive statement doesn't help your argument or "idea" one bit. There will be no exp bonus for soloing because it wasn't implemented for that reason.
Also, why did you make a post and reply to yourself twice before anyone else even posted? It seems like your only here to stir up the pot, And that my friend will not get you far. You want more exp bonus, try out this idea. Go to another zone and look for more people instead if posting this crap. Lower lvls go slow because it wouldn't make sense for a new player to go from 1-20 solo and not have enough cash to buy even 1 of their spells. Key word SOLO. Learn to play the game for what it is, and stop trying to change things that are not broken.
Somekid123
05-18-2014, 11:33 AM
Was gonna throw in an indepth reply but it looks like everyone else has said enough so ill keep it short.
Stop your cry babying and group.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 12:18 PM
You want more exp bonus, try out this idea. Go to another zone and look for more people instead if posting this crap.
Thats golden advice thanks, im sure you put alot of thought into this because making the server grow means more fun and everyone wants that, right? ill get right on it!
Feerott:
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Blackburrow:
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Misty:
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Swamp:
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Guk: one Level 24
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EC:
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WFP:
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Not a single soul in most of the starting zones. Keep in mind this is at 11:30am on a sunday, not at 3:30am in the morning.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 12:24 PM
Thats golden advice thanks, im sure you put alot of thought into this because making the server grow means more fun and everyone wants that, right? ill get right on it!
Feerott:
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Blackburrow:
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Misty:
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Swamp:
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Guk: one Level 24
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EC:
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WFP:
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Not a single soul in most of the starting zones. Keep in mind this is at 11:30am on a sunday, not at 3:30am in the morning.
this happens on a low pop server, it's the reason we have an xp bonus in the first place. Grind the xp or quit. Plenty of people before you didn't have a problem with no one to group with all the time. We should enable mercenaries and pok books because you can't find a group sometimes.
wah.
thread still dumb.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 12:29 PM
this happens on a low pop server, it's the reason we have an xp bonus in the first place. Grind the xp or quit. Plenty of people before you didn't have a problem with no one to group with all the time. We should enable mercenaries and pok books because you can't find a group sometimes.
wah.
thread still dumb.
Its not about me, i can log on my main where the pop is, like you can, which is probably why you lack vision on why this is important, because it doesnt affect you personally.
GMs and devs should take note though, its important if we are going to bring the population up some more.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 12:31 PM
I have alts also, I haven't run into trouble finding groups, and when I can't find a group it doesn't bother me.
just give up, your argument sucks.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 12:39 PM
I have alts also, I haven't run into trouble finding groups, and when I can't find a group it doesn't bother me.
Like i was saying, youre not starting out on the server and your level 4 isnt your only character so you dont give a shit if the experience is bad for the new folks who are deciding if Red99 could be their new thing or not. You also lack vision on how to entice new people to settle on the server, so everybody wins with population growth, i get it.
Eslade
05-18-2014, 12:47 PM
Like i was saying, youre not starting out on the server and your level 4 isnt your only character so you dont give a shit if the experience is bad for the new folks who are deciding if Red99 could be their new thing or not, and you lack vision on how to entice new people to settle on the server, so everybody wins with population growth, i get it.
actually I do care, but it was worse when I made my main. if your biggest problem is that the xp bonus isn't as high as when you have a full group then you don't have problems. As someone that solo'd most of their career because groups didn't exist, I'm saying that your argument is dumb and flawed. starting to think there's some sort of selfish motive disguised as a help the noobs campaign.
Super Hater
05-18-2014, 12:53 PM
actually I do care, but it was worse when I made my main. if your biggest problem is that the xp bonus isn't as high as when you have a full group then you don't have problems. As someone that solo'd most of their career because groups didn't exist, I'm saying that your argument is dumb and flawed. starting to think there's some sort of selfish motive disguised as a help the noobs campaign.
He is serious when he says "career" btw..
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 12:59 PM
if your biggest problem is that the xp bonus isn't as high as when you have a full group then you don't have problems.
For the last time, im not suggesting a 290% bonus for soloing.
Here let me put you on ignore, less waste of time in both our lives
Azure
05-18-2014, 01:21 PM
I think maybe bringing the EXP half way so soloers get 100% more and groups get 50% less would be nice.
Because grouping is more efficient than soloing. It will balance out fairly well and still give people and incentive to group with hybrids etc.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 01:35 PM
I think maybe bringing the EXP half way so soloers get 100% more and groups get 50% less would be nice.
Because grouping is more efficient than soloing. It will balance out fairly well and still give people and incentive to group with hybrids etc.
Personally i think they shouldnt touch group xp. Yeah its a bit fast but we need that breath of fresh air, that influx of population. Its a morale booster for everyone and i think itll be a huge morale booster once again if we can break 300. Maybe slightly reducing xp, i dont know. Id wait till server breaks 500 IMO before even starting to think about reducing group xp.
Since duoing is 90% id bring soloing to 80% or something. Grouping bonus is a good thing. Making people stick around for groups to happen more often, more of a good thing.
Softcore PK
05-18-2014, 01:37 PM
Solo xp should be the same as it is on blue (reduced). Group xp should be nerfed slightly.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 01:39 PM
Solo xp should be the same as it is on blue (reduced).
Why so we can have 0 people in Gfay instead of 1? Great idea.
Group xp should be nerfed slightly.
I could see a slight reduction in group xp but we are having a rebirth of red right now, id let it roll like that for a while still.
Softcore PK
05-18-2014, 01:40 PM
Why so we can have 0 people in Gfay instead of 1? Great idea.
Chill out, friend.
Azure
05-18-2014, 01:43 PM
Personally i think they shouldnt touch group xp. Yeah its a bit fast but we need that breath of fresh air, that influx of population. Its a morale booster for everyone and i think itll be a huge morale booster once again if we can break 300. Maybe slightly reducing xp, i dont know. Id wait till server breaks 500 IMO before even starting to think about reducing group xp.
Since duoing is 90% id bring soloing to 80% or something. Grouping bonus is a good thing. Making people stick around for groups to happen more often, more of a good thing.
Very logical. I didn't put a ton of thought into it. But I /agree
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 01:45 PM
Chill out, friend.
Im chilled out, but did you miss that post of mine? Sunday, 11:30am, and you wanna make it harder on people starting out?
Feerott:
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Blackburrow:
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Misty:
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Swamp:
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Guk: one Level 24
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EC:
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WFP:
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Nirgon
05-18-2014, 01:48 PM
Stop crying about how bad solo xp is on a melee
Also: I almost entirely solo'd to 50 at launch with a Holo tag and everyone trying to fuck with me. Where's the whining about xp there? Shit was classic minus exploiting / resist code / guards.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 01:49 PM
Stop crying about how bad solo xp is on a melee
Ill bet you all my plat that i solo faster on my twinked bard than on a naked wiz starting out
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 01:51 PM
Stop crying about how bad solo xp is on a melee
Also: I almost entirely solo'd to 50 at launch with a Holo tag and everyone trying to fuck with me. Where's the whining about xp there? Shit was classic minus exploiting / resist code / guards.
Yeah i was there too. Remember that 600 pop we had? Huh huh.
Remember how Holo was the original zerg and you were dominating starting out and you had guk all to yourselves? Huh huh.
You got any more not thought through bad analogies like that for us
Nirgon trying to paint holo as underdogs getting sieged from all sides during classic lol, comedy gold
Azure
05-18-2014, 01:53 PM
Stop crying about how bad solo xp is on a melee
Also: I almost entirely solo'd to 50 at launch with a Holo tag and everyone trying to fuck with me. Where's the whining about xp there? Shit was classic minus exploiting / resist code / guards.
This logic assumes that everyone plays the game for the same reason as you: To overcome all obstacles and prove your manhood/whatever.
Some of us are just geeks wanting nostalgia with some PVP. Sure you can tell us to go back to blue you blubie scum, but then you're missing out on a whole lot of people you can prove your manhood to.
Naeyi
05-18-2014, 02:49 PM
Like i was saying, youre not starting out on the server and your level 4 isnt your only character so you dont give a shit if the experience is bad for the new folks who are deciding if Red99 could be their new thing or not. You also lack vision on how to entice new people to settle on the server, so everybody wins with population growth, i get it.
wow we're still going, seven pages now.
solo xp has +50% modifier compared to blue. this is a pretty good gain. that means you level faster when you are soloing here compared to soloing on blue or in a classic live environment. I'm sorry no one was around to play with you at 11:30 on a sunday. Maybe people weren't playing R99, or they solo'd into the next leveling zone in the time you decided to fap to your upcoming next post that would prove everyone wrong.
Look at it this way (i know you won't), no one is starting on this server without realizing at least one of the following:
1) it is a lower population
2) they will be playing EVERQUEST the endless timesink we all cherish and for some reason still play. this isn't a 'kill four boars, get level 10' it's spend a couple hours and hope to make progress before you die a couple times and lose an entire night's worth of time.
3) oh hey I get +50% xp for soloing? wow that's a nice bonus that is not at all classic!
Naeyi
05-18-2014, 02:50 PM
Ill bet you all my plat that i solo faster on my twinked bard than on a naked wiz starting out
lol
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 02:56 PM
Newsflash, you dont solo much on blue starting out, so even though xp doesnt have a bonus, its less boring.
Naeyi
05-18-2014, 03:08 PM
Newsflash, you dont solo much on blue starting out, so even though xp doesnt have a bonus, its less boring.
Subjective speculation is not News. How do you know I didn't solo my entire blue career then came to red and enjoyed soloing with 50% more exp? Do you realize how it may be more convenient to solo for an semi-afk hour than find a group? I've run into plenty of people on red who have all said as much. If they can't find a group, they solo until other people come online. Red is excellent for that.
We don't have that long of a grind here on red, due to ALL XP starting out at minimum 50% more than anywhere else. I get it, you don't think this is enough, but really it is quite fantastic.
Azure
05-18-2014, 03:16 PM
^ Naeyi is a real newb to the server not poisoned by high exp rates.
Though being poisoned by high exp rates and having had it cut off completely I feelers for OP and the idea that we need some kind of compromise in 2014.
Nirgon
05-18-2014, 03:18 PM
Haha u w0t m8
Again try solo'ing in zones with people everywhere trying to attack you
Azure
05-18-2014, 03:31 PM
yes we are bluebie scum @ nirgon
but we deserve better, come @ us plz and teach us how hard it is 2 level or stfu
Nirgon
05-18-2014, 03:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P5ORDUK.gif
Heavenzoutcast
05-18-2014, 03:57 PM
Thats golden advice thanks, im sure you put alot of thought into this because making the server grow means more fun and everyone wants that, right? ill get right on it!
Aight look asshole, I was trying to be nice so I'll be more blunt since obviously to stupid to understand.
/q
Uninstall
Never return
You ask people for advice and don't like the answer so you star flaming. It's a game, you don't own it, you didn't make it. Play the game the way it is or use the advice I posted above. Either way I don't care, but acting like a child with a smart ass comment from someone trying to give you an idea is just ignorant. Take the advice or shut the hell up. Oh and yea, I put a lot of thought in the "shut the hell up" because your trolling.
Bazia
05-18-2014, 04:13 PM
no wonder u cant get into heaven
Bazia
05-18-2014, 04:16 PM
red the most playable thing on the internet really
Eslade
05-18-2014, 04:22 PM
this has to be a troll thread. the guy is agreeing with Azure.
+50% is more than enough.
so dumb
Heavenzoutcast
05-18-2014, 04:40 PM
no wonder u cant get into heaven
😂
FaithlessKR
05-18-2014, 06:31 PM
seems a lot easier to log into BC Wow then here
sorry !
I'd rather log into 15 pop roflron than here...so yeah
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 06:44 PM
Aight look asshole, I was trying to be nice so I'll be more blunt since obviously to stupid to understand.
/q
Uninstall
Never return
You ask people for advice and don't like the answer so you star flaming. It's a game, you don't own it, you didn't make it. Play the game the way it is or use the advice I posted above. Either way I don't care, but acting like a child with a smart ass comment from someone trying to give you an idea is just ignorant. Take the advice or shut the hell up. Oh and yea, I put a lot of thought in the "shut the hell up" because your trolling.
I didnt ask for your advice, i was stating facts.
When you post something like this: Also, why did you make a post and reply to yourself twice before anyone else even posted? It seems like your only here to stir up the pot, And that my friend will not get you far. You want more exp bonus, try out this idea. Go to another zone and look for more people instead if posting this crap.
Are you seriously expecting anything else than the sort of reply you got? When you post something like "Hey, have you tried looking at other zones, stupid?" and you havent been playing at low levels so have no idea what the situation is, youre gonna get called out on your ignorance of the facts.
Heavenzoutcast
05-18-2014, 07:35 PM
Do you know what lvls are on my account? Funny how you assume I have a bunch of lvl 60's and don't play new characters. Don't assume man, because your dead wrong I can promise you that.
From what I've noticed observed, you have made your forum account April 2014. Should I assume your purposely trying to rant and rave just to raise your forum posts, or should I just assume your trying to come at every post with a negative attitude? I've made some, that's for sure, but you still haven't got the point. Exp isn't going to change, deal with that.
Heyitsme
05-18-2014, 07:45 PM
Do you know what lvls are on my account? Funny how you assume I have a bunch of lvl 60's and don't play new characters. Don't assume man, because your dead wrong I can promise you that.
Ill test it out rigorously just to prove my point. I will report zones at different times of the day as an experiment.
Heavenzoutcast
05-18-2014, 07:53 PM
Can't wait to hear. While your at it. Btw, a bard takes roughly an hour without twinking whatsoever to get to 3. That's mass killing mobs and not selling or looting except to buy your AOE song. All this is in gfay.
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