THE TIME IS NOW

[Bamz4l]

http://rt.com/usa/159244-operation-american-spring-washington/

It is time to abolish and dismantle the government as we see fit.

[SamwiseRed]

To bring about that change, Riley says he hopes his group succeeds at shutting down the federal government. Whether or not all 29,999,999 of his compatriots will follow through, however, remains yet to be seen — a similar protest against Pres. Obama’s administration arranged last year by a fleet of truck drivers fell well short of making the dent that that group hoped to make.

“Last October,‘10,000’ truckers were reportedly on their way to literally clog the Beltway and shut down traffic in protest of Washington politics,” Abby Ohlhiser wrote for The Wire on Thursday this week. “In reality, about 30 truckers showed up, and they caused no delays worth mentioning.”

naw

[Fame]

the peasants will never win

[moklianne]

http://rt.com/usa/159244-operation-american-spring-washington/

It is time to abolish and dismantle the government as we see fit.

and replace it with....?

That's going over oh so well in Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc...

In the end, while our government sucks balls people are afraid of their cushiony life turning into something from madmax.

[SamwiseRed]

Ye no offense but I'd rather have a corrupt gov't than no gov't at all.

[Bamz4l]

Here's the latest pics of me and Ma'

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2014/05/15/45/4d/3729669_G.jpg
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2014/05/15/22/5f/CharityJohnson.jpg

Thanks for sharing that hurb. Unfortunately though, this is not the RL pic thread. No hard feelings tho sista'

I know how those menial tasks can be quite a challenge for you.

[Glenzig]

http://rt.com/usa/159244-operation-american-spring-washington/

It is time to abolish and dismantle the government as we see fit.

Who is this WE you speak of?

[Pitborn]

Let's start a riot Bamzal. Portage and Mainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[radditsu]

Im moving to nightvale.

[Swish]

Thanks for sharing that hurb. Unfortunately though, this is not the RL pic thread. No hard feelings tho sista'

I know how those menial tasks can be quite a challenge for you.

Not so surprised he was knocked off his bike now :(

[Bazia]

Let's complain more about the amazing country we were lucky enough to win the birth lottery and be a part of.

[Ahldagor]

Let's complain more about the amazing country we were lucky enough to win the birth lottery and be a part of.

mein neger

[Scrooge]

Interesting how there's no mention of what's going on at the steps of the White House, anywhere on CNN or any of the other MSM channels for that matter, yet the so-called "state-run propaganda" RT network steps in for the people of another country yet again.

[Ahldagor]

Interesting how there's no mention of what's going on at the steps of the White House, anywhere on CNN or any of the other MSM channels for that matter, yet the so-called "state-run propaganda" RT network steps in for the people of another country yet again.

lil more detail please. they're also likely not considered news worthy because of insignificance to anything.

[JayN]

not really news that a bunch of old dying white racist men dont like spooky ol Obama SOUNDS PRETTY FOREIGN and SCARY to me!

lets see how many of these gutted geriatric pussies show up for the rally.

[Scrooge]

Plenty of details, including photos, videos and livestreams right here:

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/05/17/operation-american-spring-live-stream-right-here-right-now/ (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2014/05/17/operation-american-spring-live-stream-right-here-right-now/)

[Ahldagor]

militant branch of the occupy groups. no thanks. this is the stuff glenn beck was talking about years ago, still is, and i'm not comfortable taking orders from a non-secular person.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Let's start a riot Bamzal. Portage and Mainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[phacemeltar]

the peasants will never win

let them eat cake!

[moklianne]

If Obama is responsible for Benghazi, then Bush was responsible for the 9/11 and should be jailed and fudge packed daily for it.

I would also never support any movement that claims that "the US is a christian nation". Its so sad how Christians hate Muslims and how things play out in the middle-east, yet they try to institute their own version of Sharia law all the time here.

[Byrjun]

I like the image that says, "Operation American Spring - How to Throw a Successful Revolution"

Some old people went to Washington DC, waved some flags with crosses on them, literally no one heard about it, and nothing happened. That's a successful revolution?

[Sidelle]

If Obama is responsible for Benghazi, then Bush was responsible for the 9/11 and should be jailed and fudge packed daily for it.

I would also never support any movement that claims that "the US is a christian nation". Its so sad how Christians hate Muslims and how things play out in the middle-east, yet they try to institute their own version of Sharia law all the time here.

Isn't it sad to you how Muslims hate people, too? Lol @ comparing Christianity to Sharia Law in any way. Yes, there are fundamentalists who are just straight-up retarded in every religion. But some of those Muslims take the fucking cake when it comes to acting like animals in the name of religion.

Some groups of Christians make themselves look like complete idiots with all that bible talk and bullshit but you generally don't hear about them stoning people to death for adultery, marrying and fucking little girls (who've often been circumcised and sewn closed, only to be ripped open on their wedding night), oppressing women to the point of ridiculousness, or murdering/crucifying people who refuse to convert, etc.

Some people are way too sympathetic regarding these barbaric Sharia Law fucks. They would happily chop off your heads for being infidels (or even just American) if they had the chance. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Ahldagor]

Isn't it sad to you how Muslims hate people, too? Lol @ comparing Christianity to Sharia Law in any way. Yes, there are fundamentalists who are just straight-up retarded in every religion. But some of those Muslims take the fucking cake when it comes to acting like animals in the name of religion.

Some groups of Christians make themselves look like complete idiots with all that bible talk and bullshit but you generally don't hear about them stoning people to death for adultery, marrying and fucking little girls (who've often been circumcised and sewn closed, only to be ripped open on their wedding night), oppressing women to the point of ridiculousness, or murdering/crucifying people who refuse to convert, etc.

Some people are way too sympathetic regarding these barbaric Sharia Law fucks. They would happily chop off your heads for being infidels (or even just American) if they had the chance. What the fuck is wrong with you?

if folks actually read their bibles anymore then they'd be right there with them. you work on saturday? walk in the presence of men on your period? wear two types of fabric? ever drank milk with your meat? ever eaten shellfish? all the other shit listed throughout the bible then you'd be stoned along with most of the US population.

Timothy 2:11-12
(11) A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. (12) I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

word of god right there honey.

[Azure]

If you are a fundamentalist and you take religion far enough to be pathalogical about it. You aught to be DSMIV'd just like everyone else who is obsessed/brainwashed/crazy as shit/handicapped.

End of story. The Catholic Church all the way up to the pope has been a pathalogical corruption of religion and the teachings of Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior for many generations.

The Church is not the will of god, nore is the bible, it is the will of humans who are flawed. And this logic is perfectly sound for people of faith. God is love. Acceptance. Tolerance. Harmony. Gaia. Mother Nature. Tara. Ra. One ness. Zen. Dharma.

Also god doesn't have a gender, and is not an anthropomorphic being of absolute power. This is a dumb human invention that is recent on the geological timescale.

If we are the will of god, than changing the church and religion to suit the "will of god" is an appropriate reaction to the evil corruption of god.

That is if you TRULY believe in "god".

There fore blind extremist fundamentalism is not the will of god.

If it was. God would be here on earth getting involved in extreme and fundamental ways. Which he is not. I'm speaking to the judeo christian and islamic faiths (oh and Jesus is one of your prophets). I'm using your terms. Update your books and your faiths please. They are way out of date. God would appreciate it very much most likely. If not then he'll let you know with some firery mountains or some such.

And actually there are many extremely wonderful people who are of the judeo christian faith/orientation who ARE updating their shit. Thank you. There's many theological scholars who aren't fundamentalist asshats. Thank you again :)

[Sidelle]

if folks actually read their bibles anymore then they'd be right there with them. you work on saturday? walk in the presence of men on your period? wear two types of fabric? ever drank milk with your meat? ever eaten shellfish? all the other shit listed throughout the bible then you'd be stoned along with most of the US population.

Timothy 2:11-12
(11) A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. (12) I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

word of god right there honey.

That's why I'm glad I live in America. Separation of church and state, honey. I'm not Christian and haven't been inside a church in years but I don't recall anyone ever calling for "sinners" to be stoned or a mob of Christian folks actually doing that. You don't get away with that shit here.

By the way, I don't recall hearing of any Christians in other countries running wild and murdering people according to biblical laws. If you know of any, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

[Sidelle]

If you are a fundamentalist and you take religion far enough to be pathalogical about it. You aught to be DSMIV'd just like everyone else who is obsessed/brainwashed/crazy as shit/handicapped.

End of story. The Catholic Church all the way up to the pope has been a pathalogical corruption of religion and the teachings of Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior for many generations.

The Church is not the will of god, nore is the bible, it is the will of humans who are flawed. And this logic is perfectly sound for people of faith. God is love. Acceptance. Tolerance. Harmony. Gaia. Mother Nature. Tara. Ra. One ness. Zen. Dharma.

Also god doesn't have a gender, and is not an anthropomorphic being of absolute power. This is a dumb human invention that is recent on the geological timescale.

If we are the will of god, than changing the church and religion to suit the "will of god" is an appropriate reaction to the evil corruption of god.

That is if you TRULY believe in "god".

There fore blind extremist fundamentalism is not the will of god.

If it was. God would be here on earth getting involved in extreme and fundamental ways. Which he is not. I'm speaking to the judeo christian and islamic faiths (oh and Jesus is one of your prophets). I'm using your terms. Update your books and your faiths please. They are way out of date. God would appreciate it very much most likely. If not then he'll let you know with some firery mountains or some such.

And actually there are many extremely wonderful people who are of the judeo christian faith/orientation who ARE updating their shit. Thank you. There's many theological scholars who aren't fundamentalist asshats. Thank you again :)

Good post. I agree with you.

Speaking of updating Christianity, I think the Gnostics are very intereting and have the right idea. They don't believe in taking the bible literally. They don't believe you need all the bullshit human interference like the clergy coming between you and god. They are more open and consider themselves seekers more than believers. And they don't disregard the gospels that were cut out of the bible because it didnt mesh with the church's agenda.

[Azure]

Good post. I agree with you.

Speaking of updating Christianity, I think the Gnostics are very intereting and have the right idea. They don't believe in taking the bible literally. They don't believe you need all the bullshit human interference like the clergy coming between you and god. They are more open and consider themselves seekers more than believers. And they don't disregard the gospels that were cut out of the bible because it didnt mesh with the church's agenda.

I'm a big fan of the Gnostics, though I myself don't consider myself gnostic. I like to take what I can from Christianity and examine it carefully along with my other spiritual knowledge. I am a woman of my own faith :) Most of all I try to have faith in myself as a human being who is a part of a greater community of human beings. Though I don't always have faith. Recently. Things have gotten a lot better. And the world around me seems to be much more synchronous and good ;)

[moklianne]

Isn't it sad to you how Muslims hate people, too? Lol @ comparing Christianity to Sharia Law in any way. Yes, there are fundamentalists who are just straight-up retarded in every religion. But some of those Muslims take the fucking cake when it comes to acting like animals in the name of religion.

Some groups of Christians make themselves look like complete idiots with all that bible talk and bullshit but you generally don't hear about them stoning people to death for adultery, marrying and fucking little girls (who've often been circumcised and sewn closed, only to be ripped open on their wedding night), oppressing women to the point of ridiculousness, or murdering/crucifying people who refuse to convert, etc.

Some people are way too sympathetic regarding these barbaric Sharia Law fucks. They would happily chop off your heads for being infidels (or even just American) if they had the chance. What the fuck is wrong with you?

People make themselves out to be idiots all the time, those people are simply morons and Christians should do what they can to reign in on them because they are not helping their cause.

As far as not hearing about citizens of other faiths not being threatened, you must be blind because I read about it every day. There are places in the US where you do not want to be anything other than a Christian. Do you think its right to have a pagan author in florida shot at for simply being a witch?

Perhaps the worlds largest Christan faith is a good example to how Christians are supposed to treat others eh? You do realize that from the Vaticans own numbers, they claim that over 100,000 children and adults have been sexually abused by priests in the US ALONE. That's nearly 3% of the entire population.

Also, where did I say Muslims are saints? You need to work on your reading comprehension. What I am saying is that people use faith as the end all against logical thinking and 150+ years ago, Christians acted very similar to how Muslims act right now. It must be hard for Christians to be reminded of their bloody past in this way.

[moklianne]

That's why I'm glad I live in America. Separation of church and state, honey. I'm not Christian and haven't been inside a church in years but I don't recall anyone ever calling for "sinners" to be stoned or a mob of Christian folks actually doing that. You don't get away with that shit here.

By the way, I don't recall hearing of any Christians in other countries running wild and murdering people according to biblical laws. If you know of any, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

Separation of church and state that was greater many years ago and less today? In the US, its just more common to completely ruin someone's life instead of kill them. Its much easier to do. Religion brings out the best and the worst in everyone. It makes the extremes more visible and acceptable.

As far as Christian terrorism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

This one in particular was recent and I remembered instantly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

[Azure]

Faith does not need separation from logic. This is something people do.

Logic can be applied to faith. Faith can be evaluated by logic. Faith and logic work better in this capacity.

[Sidelle]

People make themselves out to be idiots all the time, those people are simply morons and Christians should do what they can to reign in on them because they are not helping their cause.

As far as not hearing about citizens of other faiths not being threatened, you must be blind because I read about it every day. There are places in the US where you do not want to be anything other than a Christian. Do you think its right to have a pagan author in florida shot at for simply being a witch?

Perhaps the worlds largest Christan faith is a good example to how Christians are supposed to treat others eh? You do realize that from the Vaticans own numbers, they claim that over 100,000 children and adults have been sexually abused by priests in the US ALONE. That's nearly 3% of the entire population.

Also, where did I say Muslims are saints? You need to work on your reading comprehension. What I am saying is that people use faith as the end all against logical thinking and 150+ years ago, Christians acted very similar to how Muslims act right now. It must be hard for Christians to be reminded of their bloody past in this way.

I am well aware of the history of Christianity. That's the main reason I've spent most of my life turning away from that faith. No, it isn't right what's happened to people over the centuries, nor is trying to shoot witches nowadays. Duh. Everyone who has any sense of decency knows that much.

But I tend to think more about the present and future because we can't do shit about the past now, can we? Except maybe try to learn from it. I basically jumped on your post because you stated that Christians try to "institute their own form of Sharia Law here". I'm sorry, but that statement is just ridiculous. Try reading up on what Sharia Law is and how it's implemented and you might see what I'm talking about.

Yeah, there are awful hated-filled Christians out there that do retarded shit like protesting funerals for gay people. I get it. But is it a Christian equivalent of Sharia Law? Not even close. Please show me some examples or something.

[Sidelle]

Oh god. Religion giving me a headache now, reading all dis shit. Lol

[Ahldagor]

Everyone professing hate when what they want is love or acceptance... hilarious.

Doesn't matter your background or beliefs, if you go about it that way you'll always be wrong and get no where in your "movement".

If you learn the actualities of certain things rather than emphasizing the scope of generalizations amongst them, then perhaps you'll actually acquire the proper knowledge needed to speak intelligently.

seconded.

the big issue is the early christians platonized their religion in order to make it philosophically authoritative to thinking. problem is plato doesn't harmonize as nietzsche pointed out by inverting the cave parable in thus spoke zarathustra. traversing through nihilism has done a lot for my sense of being a person in a world that is bigger. or as heidegger put it (a course paraphrase) a being within Being where language (communication in general) houses everything.

sidelle i wasn't bashing you but pointing out that there are fundamentalists everywhere, and they are just the old school hard liners of their faiths. ever read the jefferson bible? he took out all the magic and miracles and left the positive ethics. it's way shorter and makes more sense.

[Orruar]

Faith does not need separation from logic. This is something people do.

Logic can be applied to faith. Faith can be evaluated by logic. Faith and logic work better in this capacity.

Faith is often considered separate from logic because once it is evaluated by logic, it quickly disperses.

[Super Hater]

With no government, you weak nerds would just be killed off by me. So just thank god there are police and government to protect you.

[moklianne]

Faith does not need separation from logic. This is something people do.

Logic can be applied to faith. Faith can be evaluated by logic. Faith and logic work better in this capacity.

Logic applied to the outcomes of faith on society and individuals can be applied, but I disagree that any faith stands up on its own when logic is applied to it. I include my own beliefs in that assessment.

There's a difference between applying logic to faith and questioning your faith. Everyone should always question their faith. It doesn't mean you are turning away from your faith, it means you are growing with it when so many others are not.

[moklianne]

Everyone professing hate when what they want is love or acceptance... hilarious.

Doesn't matter your background or beliefs, if you go about it that way you'll always be wrong and get no where in your "movement".

If you learn the actualities of certain things rather than emphasizing the scope of generalizations amongst them, then perhaps you'll actually acquire the proper knowledge needed to speak intelligently.

I agree and I apologize to anyone (especially Sid) if I sounded too harsh.

This is one of those few topics that set me off being of what's considered a minority faith in the US, while the mainstream media seems to rarely cover anything other than Muslims being violent or violence against Christians.

[moklianne]

With no government, you weak nerds would just be killed off by me. So just thank god there are police and government to protect you.

What are YOU overcompensating for?