donal arms + manastone

[HawkMasterson1999]

How much hp do you have to have to make complete heal more efficient than donal's vambs with the manastone?

[Nocsucow]

after you get hero and symbol nyltron is when it does best

also buy a HP set

[Vayder]

~1550hps

[HawkMasterson1999]

good stuff. Thanks

[Ele]

Manastone = 60 hp for 20 mana

Donal's Vambs = 200 hp / 0 mana / 12 second cast or 3 manastone clicks per activation 180hp for 60 mana every ~12-13 seconds


Complete Heal = XXXX hp / 400 mana / 10 seconds

To come out even on CH/Manastone you have to use at least 20 clicks or 1200 hp + some buffer so you don't die.

With CH being only 10 second cast time, then you'll need to use at least 4 clicks of the manastone to make it more efficient than Donal's 12 second cast time or 240 hp.

1200 hp + 240 hp = 1440 hp + buffer to gain 480 mana - 400 mana for ch or a net gain of 80 mana

[Daldaen]

Manastone = 60 HP / 20 Mana
Complete Healing = 400 Mana * (1-(200 Spec Alteration/20)/100) = 360 Mana

360 / 20 = 18

18 * 60 = 1080 HP

^ Amount to Break even assuming no fizzles.

Donals Vambraces are 12s and CH is 10s. Due to having to manastone more on CH and be more precise about where you stop, they end up being about the same number of clicks per minute.

Donals Heals 200 HP, roughly 3-4 manastone clicks, about 60-80 mana returned.

You would need 1080+200~ HP to beat Donals Vambrace Manastones. This assumes no fizzles and Specialized 200 Alteration.

Having 1400-1500 makes it about even. I wouldn't really bother with CH until 1800+ HP though just cause of how tedious it is to go all the way down and back up. It is easier to just click vambraces and stone 3 times. Never worrying about low HP aggro if grouping or fizzles if soloing.

[thugcruncher]

just get donals bp

[Liia]

just get donals bp

Donal's BP doesn't make much more efficient for your interest since you have the time to click your manastone to low HP again while you cast the 20secs Donal's BP CH. It is more efficient but not by alot.

[Erati]

sad that Donals arms are nearly as good as Robe of the Spring bah

#druidlife

[Tecmos Deception]

Donal's BP doesn't make much more efficient for your interest since you have the time to click your manastone to low HP again while you cast the 20secs Donal's BP CH. It is more efficient but not by alot.

What? How in the WORLD does taking 10 extra seconds per CH cycle, but at the benefit of saving 400 mana on the CH, not make it insanely more efficient? :p

[webrunner5]

What? How in the WORLD does taking 10 extra seconds per CH cycle, but at the benefit of saving 400 mana on the CH, not make it insanely more efficient? :p

Not counting a Manastone only works in Classic zones??

[Tecmos Deception]

Not counting a Manastone only works in Classic zones??

Well the thread would be pretty fucking pointless if we were talking about how useful manastones are in non-classic zones now, wouldn't it?

[webrunner5]

Well the thread would be pretty fucking pointless if we were talking about how useful manastones are in non-classic zones now, wouldn't it?

Hell you are the one like me thinking the Clicky BP is probably better. I would not give you 2 cents for a Manastone unless I was a Druid or a Wizard and even then screw having to port like every 20 minutes to recharge it. You going to stop the flow of your Puller,Tank to recharge the god damn thing every time you turn around.

Chill out Tec, I am on your side. Well maybe.:confused:

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Hell you are the one like me thinking the Clicky BP is probably better. I would not give you 2 cents for a Manastone unless I was a Druid or a Wizard and even then screw having to port like every 20 minutes to recharge it. You going to stop the flow of your Puller,Tank to recharge the god damn thing every time you turn around.

Chill out Tec, I am on your side. Well maybe.:confused:

I think I would probably just level in the hole until 60 if I had a mana stone. Wizard with epic + mana stone + hole is pretty OP.

[HawkMasterson1999]

I always thought manastone didn't work in the hole, warrens, stonebrunt?

[Clark]

Well the thread would be pretty fucking pointless if we were talking about how useful manastones are in non-classic zones now, wouldn't it?

[webrunner5]

How in the Hell does donals bp or donals vamps even get into the conversation with a Manastone if we are talking F'ing "Classic" zones. I somewhat think both of those items are Kunark zone Seb thingy's.

Tec and Clark are both on drugs. :p:p