Xp bonus is insane

[Softcore PK]

Like... too high. Any chance of this being tweaked down a little bit? :O

[Ames who?]

shut the fuck up please and thank you

[Softcore PK]

What the fuck Ames? I thought we were friends :(

[Rettj]

take this to blue rnf plz staff

thx

[Pullyn]

shut the fuck up please and thank you

[Ames who?]

What the fuck Ames? I thought we were friends :(

We are. Don't be giving the GMs any fuckin bright ideas though brah.

[Softcore PK]

I got like 4 levels in 30 mins in CB. Warriors were deciding not to train dual wield, druids didn't want to go get their med at level 8... it was madness.

Something needs to be done.

Seriously. Priests not wanting to train meditate.

[no chewie dont]

really cheapens the journey

[heartbrand]

what has softcore pk done for this community? she got those aids

[Softcore PK]

And that's the creepiest thing anyone has said to/about me on the forums... grats.

So confused right now.

[Doors]

It's only group based. It's fine.

[no chewie dont]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/49759045.jpg

[Potus]

It really is kind of high.

I gave a level 1 some FS and plat and the next day they were level 24. That's waaaaaaaaay faster than the 300% bonus that I had solo'ing.

[Ames who?]

You fucking kids always find something to cry about.

[Rellapse40]

You fucking kids always find something to cry about.

[Skittlez]

Six Bards One Kite

[no chewie dont]

exp bonus only benefits skumlords and noobs aka future skumlords

[Tassador]

Op was in cb on a ranger with 300k worth of gear at lvl 5 complaining about exp being to high. Try not having gear that you can tank mobs 8 levels higher before crying about exp.

[Bardalicious]

I wish that I could agree with the OP. There is nothing classic about the xp rate and it is really fast with a full group.

But I can't. Because it's blatantly obvious that half of our population won't play here without easy xping and we need every warm body that we can get right now. We're seeing 200's on at a time and I think it's fair to say that if Velious released, it would jump to 300-400 with the current rates.

It's serving it's purpose, though only to an extent. A lot of these new players are outleveling the chance to keep up on gear and spells, despite the generosity of a lot of the vets here, so they'll be ill-equipped for pvp later on and likely quit out of frustration.

[India]

Op was in cb on a ranger with 300k worth of gear at lvl 5 complaining about exp being to high. Try not having gear that you can tank mobs 8 levels higher before crying about exp.

Ahh so Faerie is Rochelle?

[Rexxin]

Aww fuck it server is growing, people are grouping, pvp is happening, Hybrids and melees and hell even clerics are leveling up.

GET RID OF THE XP NOW PLEASE THIS IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your after the blue experience blue is one server up on the server select screen.

[freez]

dont need meditate till sebilis

[Eslade]

Like... too high. Any chance of this being tweaked down a little bit? :O

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[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Like... too high. Any chance of this being tweaked down a little bit? :O

I agree with this.

The rate is pretty blistering. Enhanced xp is awesome but there are lots missing out on the journey.

[Rexxin]

I got like 4 levels in 30 mins in CB. Warriors were deciding not to train dual wield, druids didn't want to go get their med at level 8... it was madness.

Something needs to be done.



Id like to know when OP ever had a group in CB before these changes were made, place was ghost town....

[SamwiseRed]

I got like 4 levels in 30 mins in CB. Warriors were deciding not to train dual wield, druids didn't want to go get their med at level 8... it was madness.

Something needs to be done.

Seriously. Priests not wanting to train meditate.

that is actually normal in some cases. if i had a solid group, i wouldnt leave to go train either until the group was dying. if you were capable of handling the camp before you gained a skill you should be capable after.

[diplo]

I agree with this.

The rate is pretty blistering. Enhanced xp is awesome but there are lots missing out on the journey.

Your view of the redbox is skewed...there is no such thing as a journey on this small box. the goal is to hit 60 asap so you can mass pvp.

[Tassador]

Op had better gear than 2/3 of the hybrids 40+ on red at level 5 talking about exp is to fast. That is what is hilarious IMO.

[Scikala]

that is actually normal in some cases. if i had a solid group, i wouldnt leave to go train either until the group was dying. if you were capable of handling the camp before you gained a skill you should be capable after.

Exactly and it's CB...

Also why you try to carry spells with ya, why miss exp when something wasnt necessary before?

[Genedin]

These are the most troll horseshit statements I've ever heard.

"missing the journey"

How many people do you think actually are playing everquest for the first time?

Server is thriving, group exp is forcing people to actually group up to lvl, I've seen tons of new players. This is working exactly as they intended.

There is a really cool game called "darkfall" you guys would love. You can mindlessly grind for almost no reward to your heart's content.

[Kergan]

Don't feed the trolls.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

These are the most troll horseshit statements I've ever heard.

"missing the journey"

How many people do you think actually are playing everquest for the first time?

Server is thriving, group exp is forcing people to actually group up to lvl, I've seen tons of new players. This is working exactly as they intended.

There is a really cool game called "darkfall" you guys would love. You can mindlessly grind for almost no reward to your heart's content.

Relax pal. I use that term to describe people who level so quick they don't know their classes.

I suppose for pvp it's gonna be good to rofl stomp them I just worry getting steamrolled is gonna force some weaker players off. Anyways, just a thought.

[Duckwalk]

I fully intend I get roflstomped in pvp regardless of the fact that I have been playing EQ off and on for the last 15 years. Nature of the beast. Shortening the grind so people can start learning faster is only a good thing.

[Tassador]

I don't want people getting fast exp cause they won't learn to play class and die on pvp then quit? So you rather have no one on then? Lotta talkers not many thinkers on this thread.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I fully intend I get roflstomped in pvp regardless of the fact that I have been playing EQ off and on for the last 15 years. Nature of the beast. Shortening the grind so people can start learning faster is only a good thing.

Fair enough.

I'm enjoying it either way. Great implementation with making it a group bonus. Eq the way eq was meant to be played (full groups!)

[no chewie dont]

They should fix exp and rollback any exp gained in the past few weeks
keep it classic

[Softcore PK]

I wish that I could agree with the OP. There is nothing classic about the xp rate and it is really fast with a full group.

But I can't. Because it's blatantly obvious that half of our population won't play here without easy xping and we need every warm body that we can get right now. We're seeing 200's on at a time and I think it's fair to say that if Velious released, it would jump to 300-400 with the current rates.

It's serving it's purpose, though only to an extent. A lot of these new players are outleveling the chance to keep up on gear and spells, despite the generosity of a lot of the vets here, so they'll be ill-equipped for pvp later on and likely quit out of frustration.

Xp bonuses aren't an all or nothing sort of deal. It would have been better if the devs started with something lower (always easy to increase it, but decreasing will always piss people off) but it's never set in stone. It's not an on/off switch, you know? And right now it is simply too much.

I still don't understand why a bonus was implemented at all 50+, where groups were already happening.

This doesn't feel like EQ to me.

[Nirgon]

0-16 population server isn't classic either

Shrug

[runlvlzero]

If you want to take a break at 20 and farm sisters for plat and pvp, this EXP is REALLY good fir it for newbz. They can buy their 1 new level 20 spell and have some fun, then get back to grinding and catching up with the server, and twink alts. Where all the fun is at leveling and pvping in groups. I haven't seen more low level pvp. Less in fact. BUT.

People are grouping and playing on the box. Which is miraculous. We even almost have a 4th small guild forming. I mean WTF... this is unheard of on red. This is a good "experience" (tm) atm.

[Azure]

If you want to take a break at 20 and farm sisters for plat and pvp, this EXP is REALLY good fir it for newbz. They can buy their 1 new level 20 spell and have some fun, then get back to grinding and catching up with the server, and twink alts. Where all the fun is at leveling and pvping in groups. I haven't seen more low level pvp. Less in fact. BUT.

People are grouping and playing on the box. Which is miraculous. We even almost have a 4th small guild forming. I mean WTF... this is unheard of on red. This is a good "experience" (tm) atm.

Just in case you still have runlvlzero on ignore <3

[Tradesonred]

I tend to agree with Op but im afraid if they touch anything itll fall apart again.

Its fast leveling when the reasoning for the changes was to slow up the journey a bit.

But what the server badly needs, above everything else, is fresh new blood.

I think its better to leave it like this until we reach 400+ at peak times and then maybe think about nerfing it down to 35% or 30% per player.

Keep in mind that OP has a rich history of bad ideas for server (main opponent of removal of xp loss in pvp back in classic) and that being solo here is still hitting a giant wall because you need to be grouped if you dont want your xp to be day and night compared to soloing. So if you solo, its still a giant PITA and were not at that point were you find groups that often still.

[Kergan]

Until the population is classic you can't have classic exp rates. Get 1500 people on here and I'll be the first one to support reducing experience. Until then, stop the trolling.

[Softcore PK]

that is actually normal in some cases. if i had a solid group, i wouldnt leave to go train either until the group was dying. if you were capable of handling the camp before you gained a skill you should be capable after.

We're talking about meditate, for priests. In groups with just the one healer. With Felwithe and Kelethin sooo close.

Maybe that's still a bad example. People are gaining 15+ levels in a single day (weekend yes, but still). That's no good, honestly :(

Don't feed the trolls.

Disagreeing with you does not make me a troll :S

If you want to take a break at 20 and farm sisters for plat and pvp, this EXP is REALLY good fir it for newbz. They can buy their 1 new level 20 spell and have some fun, then get back to grinding and catching up with the server, and twink alts. Where all the fun is at leveling and pvping in groups. I haven't seen more low level pvp. Less in fact. BUT.

People are grouping and playing on the box. Which is miraculous. We even almost have a 4th small guild forming. I mean WTF... this is unheard of on red. This is a good "experience" (tm) atm.

Honestly I have no idea what you're saying about sisters camp.

People grouping and checking the server out is totally a good thing, but with xp the way it is they may as well allow people to start out at 50 or 55. The problem with being left behind has been made worse than it was when soloing was the best xp, in that missing a night of exp that your friends get in will take them out of your xp level range. It's better because people actually are grouping, but isn't there some middle ground here?

This is like VZTZ xp, and it doesn't seem to fit in well with a classic server that takes itself seriously.

[HippoNipple]

We aren't changing the server rules because a retard cleric in your CB group didn't train meditate.

NEXT.

[Super Hater]

I been trying to keep the exp gains down a little.

[Tassador]

Do you really need meditate when your tank can solo cb at lvl9 with ds nope you do not. The sole purpose of the cleric was to double your exp.

[Super Hater]

Like... too high. Any chance of this being tweaked down a little bit? :O

Op was in cb on a ranger with 300k worth of gear at lvl 5 complaining about exp being to high. Try not having gear that you can tank mobs 8 levels higher before crying about exp.

Ahh so Faerie is Rochelle?

Just what we need.... Another sociopath.

This was after I kicked her out of CB with some good fungi vs fungi pvp. Went on a huge /ooc rant saying I was being racist after that. Another scummy person. Crazy...

[Rettj]

Not sure if srs

[Rellapse40]

assburgers

[Rellapse40]

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[Tassador]

lol fungi vs fungi action. johnnyfootball good name

[Lurgort/Sseri]

Like... too high. Any chance of this being tweaked down a little bit? :O

Wait - didn't the server pop plummet because the exp everyone loved was removed? Server has a bunch of new faces and the pop is relatively robust again. New rules and a exp bonus which encourages interaction is a step in the right direction - don't give em any ideas or we might be back at square one again.

[Drakaris]

What we are seeing is a pretty awesome server model...

Players that choose to backstab their group mates or grief are ostracised by new players in the community and are outlevelled, expediting their eventuation of being a non factor to those players.

If you played soloquest, the bonus means nothing to you and you can keep doing what you are doing.

If you are playing a group based game, then this bonus is for you! OOC for a group if your standard exp spots are empty. Server is thriving.

[Softcore PK]

I dunno who Rochelle is, and I've never owned a fungi in my life. Anyone who knows me knows my gear is pretty lol.

[Fame]

Fungi BiS twink, we all know :rolleyes:

[Super Hater]

I dunno who Rochelle is, and I've never owned a fungi in my life. Anyone who knows me knows my gear is pretty lol.

Sorry for the mistaken identity. I should have known better than to listen to info that flys around here. Didn't seem to match the personality. She was acting like a kid. For sure someone from the forums though.:(

[Hamburgalur]

It's not insane enough, the 50s go absurdly slow. Just because it was slow as hell in the 1st place doesn't mean it shouldn't be a lot more quicker than before.

Faster xp means more player and more chars to play.

[Smedy]

thinks box is thriving

90% of the new is neckbeards rerolling alt number 5 for the bindrush capabilities u need in velious

next rule should be max 2 toons per person

[no chewie dont]

turn off exp altogether
but turn on exp loss for pvp death
now THATD be rad

[Bamz4l]

turn off exp altogether
but turn on exp loss for pvp death
now THATD be rad

ud be the first deleveled by HT'ing urself

[no chewie dont]

ragebringer nameen

[Azure]

We're talking about meditate, for priests. In groups with just the one healer. With Felwithe and Kelethin sooo close.

Maybe that's still a bad example. People are gaining 15+ levels in a single day (weekend yes, but still). That's no good, honestly :(



Disagreeing with you does not make me a troll :S



Honestly I have no idea what you're saying about sisters camp.

People grouping and checking the server out is totally a good thing, but with xp the way it is they may as well allow people to start out at 50 or 55. The problem with being left behind has been made worse than it was when soloing was the best xp, in that missing a night of exp that your friends get in will take them out of your xp level range. It's better because people actually are grouping, but isn't there some middle ground here?

This is like VZTZ xp, and it doesn't seem to fit in well with a classic server that takes itself seriously.

this does suck, but friends don't level without friends, thats what alts are for

[superapan]

Just what we need.... Another sociopath.

This was after I kicked her out of CB with some good fungi vs fungi pvp. Went on a huge /ooc rant saying I was being racist after that. Another scummy person. Crazy...
It was good to see how you ratted out Magicmarker in those screenshots, in tells he claimed he had nothing to do with anything.

Anyways, cool story bro. You had a "fungi vs fungi pvp" for about 30 seconds. Then when Johnnyfootball left you spent a good hour griefing the crap out of CB. Sociopaths. Welcome to red.

[Super Hater]

It was good to see how you ratted out Magicmarker in those screenshots, in tells he claimed he had nothing to do with anything.

Anyways, cool story bro. You had a "fungi vs fungi pvp" for about 30 seconds. Then when Johnnyfootball left you spent a good hour griefing the crap out of CB. Sociopaths. Welcome to red.

Nah, actually I killed everyone one time and logged off. If otherwise I'm sure you would have petitioned, taken screenshots or anything else you could have done to get me in trouble just like most angry victims. You are already getting involved with politics at lvl 16 by holding grudges against players grouped with me.

Get over it and stop making shit up. thx..

[Softcore PK]

You really shouldn't be killing noobs with a fungi, Super Hater. That's pretty mean.

[Super Hater]

You really shouldn't be killing noobs with a fungi, Super Hater. That's pretty mean.

Getting them used to it =) Grouping for the exp is fine, but there has been too little pvp going on around Norrath because of it. I never grief, let them LnS and usually hook the newbs up with a little something if they are good sports about it.

Creates a stronger player in the long run.

[Softcore PK]

ugh

What time do you usually play?

[Super Hater]

ugh

What time do you usually play?

lol. very randomly. evenings usually though.

[superapan]

Nah, actually I killed everyone one time and logged off. If otherwise I'm sure you would have petitioned, taken screenshots or anything else you could have done to get me in trouble just like most angry victims. You are already getting involved with politics at lvl 16 by holding grudges against players grouped with me.

Get over it and stop making shit up. thx..
Oh, perhaps I should clarify - I thought it was quite entertaining. My first pvp encounter on red actually. The excitement having to look over our shoulders at CB castle drawbridge for the evil rogue dashing in to murder us all. But - it got old real quick once we realized that all the noobs in the world couldn't bring you down. And it went on for a little too long.

[Bazia]

level 10s with fungi are basically game genie style

game genies are for faggots

[SamwiseRed]

level 10s with fungi are basically game genie style

game genies are for faggots

pras

[Super Hater]

level 10s with fungi are basically game genie style

game genies are for faggots

So you like game genies?

[filthyphil]

Exp is good, I can login a few times a week and progress my characters rather or not I can find a group in my range. & when I do see other players my first thought is to cooperate to gain more exp, rather than sending them back to their bind point and potentially cause them to logout.

If you are calling for an exp reduction I suggest you go suck an egg, or have it your way and enjoy playing with those same 100 players who have always been here, because most of the casuals will leave, again.

[thugcruncher]

You fucking kids always find something to cry about.