Ranger Gearing Question

[Wolvefrost]

Currently level 9 wielding a Green Jade Broadsword
Have 2800 to spend. Should I be looking for a lamentation and use the BS when I can dual weild or is there a better bang for my plat?

[Somekid123]

Dunno prices on blue but there is a lot of 1hs ranger weapons out there. Silken Whip of Ensnaring, Lammy, The sword you have, there is 2 weapons from FM [Windetched staff, and I believe dagger] that both proc Careless Lightning at level 20 [90DD druid nuke].

Sit in EC for awhile and check it out.

[Deltaloko]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Swiftblade

Use that until lvl 20ish, then switch to

http://wiki.project1999.com/Springwood_Stave

Use that until you can afford a

http://wiki.project1999.com/Woodsman%27s_Staff

then use that until epic. Nothing else ever needed, really

[Telron]

Is it really worth it to gear for 2hb rather than 2 1hs weapons? Also is it worth it to gear for Dex for archery?

[Cecily]

Yeah, because it's very difficult to get your epics. Woodsman staff is the nicest weapon rangers have until epics. Easy enough to skill up various weapon types as you level also. Dex... probably not.

[Telron]

How much does dex really affect archery? trying to research that but ya I don't think id trade 5 str for 5 dex in either case haha.

[Kayso]

How much does dex really affect archery? trying to research that but ya I don't think id trade 5 str for 5 dex in either case haha.

It doesn't matter. It's like considering charisma for better merchant prices. There are numbers, but the answer is "it's not important, who cares".

http://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Swiftblade

Use that until lvl 20ish, then switch to

http://wiki.project1999.com/Springwood_Stave

Use that until you can afford a

http://wiki.project1999.com/Woodsman%27s_Staff

then use that until epic. Nothing else ever needed, really

Here is your answer to all questions concerning ranger weapon choice pre-epic. Nothing else matters. Solve your stat issues in non-weapon slots.

[Thulack]

How much does dex really affect archery? trying to research that but ya I don't think id trade 5 str for 5 dex in either case haha.

It really doesnt matter. Archery DPS is garbage and shouldnt be used unless your kiting something which a ranger shouldnt really do unless its necessary.

[Telron]

Why not dual lammys or somethin?

[Thulack]

Why not dual lammys or somethin?

woodsman's staff is better dps.

[SamwiseRed]

who cares about dps, woodsman staff looks like shit. dual wielding swords is the only respectable thing a ranger can do.

[Telron]

lol Sam. Thanks for the knowledge bomb.

[Malone88]

who cares about dps, woodsman staff looks like shit. dual wielding swords is the only respectable thing a ranger can do.
From a roleplaying sense, carrying a tree trunk around with you doesn't really fit the stealthy outdoorsman image, but I guess the min-maxers will beg to differ :)

[Cecily]

It's a different, yet effective, type of subtlety.

[Fanguru]

What about wurmslayer + lamentation or lupine dagger?
Less damage cap annoyance, great ratios

[Deltaloko]

Ws/lammy is a relic of a bygone era where we didn't understand the game. WS is a big slow MH only one hander, and lammy/lupine are low damage weapons with low delay.

Main hand is all about weapon speed. 1h weapons damage bonus doesn't scale with delay like 2handers do. And, especially in velious, you'll be hitting for minimum quite often, so the goal is to have the lowest delay possible so as to apply the damage bonus as often as possible. Because of this, WS doesn't make agreat MH weapon.

Furthermore, offhand swings have more to do with your DW skill then your offhand delay, so you generally want the highest base damage, or overall best ratio in your offhand. This makes lammy and lupine sub optimal choices for offhand.

[Fanguru]

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense with Velious and high level.
What about leveling up at the moment? Would you still recommend 2h over ws/lammy combo?
My ranger is in his 20's, and I'm not a big fan of damage caps with 2 handers.

[Telron]

Fast MH, Ratio OH. Check!

[Daldaen]

And you need a Rain Caller (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152552), because awesome bow makes awesome ranger.

[Deltaloko]

Yeah, I'd still recommend it. WS it not bad leveling, because the damage bonus doesn't fully kick in until higher levels, but WS + a high damage offhander will be expensive.

Springwood stave is 300-500pp., .83 ratio. WS is 4k for .625 ratio, and then you factor in the cost of a good offhand(silken whip would be best bet most likely, and they're ~500pp i think, which isn't too bad)

Woodsman staff on its own will run ~6700pp, and will outdps anything but epics significantly.

If you don't like damage caps, you can stick with silver swiftblade, which is ~100pp, until lvl 30 and then go to springwood stave, and you won't notice much at all in the way of capping damage.

[Deldanko]

Use what you want to use. I used DW in live up until luclin because i hate what 2h looks like on a ranger. If you dont like your toon you wont play him. Just have fun, get what you want, lvl up. If you wanted to 2h you probably would have made a pally or sk.

[Deltaloko]

Thats fine advice deldanko, and a good point to bring up.

The tl;dr to what i've said so far, is that from a min/max perspective, 2h yields the highest dps until epics for the lowest cost

dual wield setups can yield decent numbers and you will still contribute to groups just fine if you go that route.

[Ciroco]

And you need a Rain Caller (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152552), because awesome bow makes awesome ranger.

It's actually pretty crappy ratio-wise. Dem stats and range doe

[baalzy]

I would say don't buy lammys. They're overpriced for what they do. Jade mace + crystalline short sword is a much better investment if you want to dual wield while skilling 2 different melee skills at once.

[stine34aj]

Anyone have a http://wiki.project1999.com/Springwood_Stave that they are willing to let go? Sorry was on an ambien high last night :-D