Red server really needs a blue guild

[Softcore PK]

If all the bluebies joining red created their own guild amazing things could happen.

<Good Guys> imo.

[Daldaen]

I'll join Red if I can talk to the Priest of Order and go non-PvP.

[Kika Maslyaka]

I'll join Red if I can talk to the Priest of Order and go non-PvP.

+1 ;) and watch how people are running around me killing each other while I stand invincible ;)

[Softcore PK]

But, guys.

The power of Discord is absolute!

[Pint]

But, guys.

The power of Discord is absolute!

Absolute nonsense

[no chewie dont]

blue guilds tried and failed
knights who say ni
mystical entry
etc
let them stay where they're comfortable
ps aren't there enough red threads in blue forums? stop the madness

[Swish]

The Priest of Order has his head on a stick outside Oggok on red.

[Laugher]

that group bonus is pretty awesome, with a full grp could do 1-20 in a day; almost (if not more) bonus than Paludal Caverns lol

if there was a leveling guild large enough there could be some serious raiding/warring crews coming up quick haha

[Pullyn]

There is about 12-15+ BDA currently lvling on red. With that xp bonus and no gear a few of us have managed to make it to 20+ since Monday or so.

[Skittlez]

Someone start <Good Guys> and you got this blubie till at least level 35. That's around my cut off level if I don't like how it's going.

[Wrench]

this is a good idea

eqgps, gamtexttriggers, and duxaui all prereq

[no chewie dont]

Someone start <Good Guys> and you got this blubie till at least level 35. That's around my cut off level if I don't like how it's going.

no known RMTers allowed sorry
app denied

[Skittlez]

:( P99r's sure are holding grudges today.

[myxomatosii]

blue guilds tried and failed
knights who say ni
mystical entry
etc
let them stay where they're comfortable
ps aren't there enough red threads in blue forums? stop the madness

not exactly true for kwsn. i came over as an ambassador to get a druid up to 49 so i could do all the behind the scenes stuff for kwsn, brought over 2-3 friends who were retired at the time.. red dawn formed a week or so later and recruit spammed anyone they saw in kwsn.. once i saw they were poaching i just went back to blue and told anyone who wanted to start up on red to join them.

none of our members from blue ever came over because the framework was dismantled by RD

[myxomatosii]

in general its kwsn policy to never mention the possibility of joining our guild if someone is guilded unless they initiate the conversation. so it was just against our nature to fight back using dirty tactics.

from what i understand, the founder of that guild had a dirty past but was claimed reformed? no idea, it was just too much junk for me to care. i just wanted to help the pop at the time, not found a cultural revolution like he did.

its like being ghandi recruiting followers when hitler is up on a balcony promising greatness, ghandi ain't gonna win against an outspoken, charismatic promiser of dreams and i knew it :D

[arsenalpow]

There is about 12-15+ BDA currently lvling on red. With that xp bonus and no gear a few of us have managed to make it to 20+ since Monday or so.

i tried to talk them out of it, no one listens to me

[Pudge]

in general its kwsn policy to never mention the possibility of joining our guild if someone is guilded unless they initiate the conversation. so it was just against our nature to fight back using dirty tactics.

from what i understand, the founder of that guild had a dirty past but was claimed reformed? no idea, it was just too much junk for me to care. i just wanted to help the pop at the time, not found a cultural revolution like he did.

its like being ghandi recruiting followers when hitler is up on a balcony promising greatness, ghandi ain't gonna win against an outspoken, charismatic promiser of dreams and i knew it :D

hah! nice. you likened the biggest jew of red99 to hitler, and it worked. perfect analogy too. but to survive on red you can't give up (and to hitler!) that easily. you got to have that "live or die trying" mentality. i liked kwsn, from what i saw of them. would be awesome to see an entire guild start up some toons on red and cause trouble, that would be a blast.

edit: BTW the founder of that guild is in my sig. it's an attempt at discrediting me, posted on my personal profile here on p99 (later wiped by GMs). I repeated the story of how he stole my friend's manastone, and he got mad.

[Biaxil]

i tried to talk them out of it, no one listens to me

out of playing on Red?

[Tasslehofp99]

Red server needs to be shut down and re-thought.

I mean didn't the blue server just go through a major overhaul because the staff was tired of a minority of players making the most trouble/noise?

Doesn't that describe red servers situation perfectly?

Sure the population finally over 100, and some new (not classic) changes were made. This won't change the fact that EQ pvp sucks and no matter what pvp servers will always have abysmal population numbers. I mean I understand we have 2 GMs with PVP server background here on p99 but not many EQ players fit the profile for the types of players that would classically inhabit a PVP live server.

From a strictly blue EQ players perspective the population on red99 itself makes logging in and playing EQ a chore. There is no sense of community on red because the players there are from a different generation of gamers/eq players. Lets be honest the community makes everquest special and frankly without the community this game is shit. I log onto red a few times a month out of boredom and curiosity and its the same thing. Empty zones, huge trolls in OOC, and a lot of people calling eachother ******s and faggots (how is this not a bannable offense?)

The only hope for Red is opening a new teams based server (even this is a stretch though because eq simply wasn't developed for PVP) and a shitload of bans for all the WoW-generation of gamers that make logging into this server unbearable. Also, transfers from blue/red with no drop gear only is a great idea. You really can't expect anyone to invest time in a server that has had less than 100 players logged on for the majority of time it has been up.


Would be sweet if red players stuck to their section of the forums too, though. Nothing more annoying than having people try to force their will/ideas on you to make you resent them.

[quido]

Tasslehof you clearly don't know dick about the red server. Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.

[Biaxil]

Red server needs to be shut down and re-thought.

I mean didn't the blue server just go through a major overhaul because the staff was tired of a minority of players making the most trouble/noise?

Doesn't that describe red servers situation perfectly?

Sure the population finally over 100, and some new (not classic) changes were made. This won't change the fact that EQ pvp sucks and no matter what pvp servers will always have abysmal population numbers. I mean I understand we have 2 GMs with PVP server background here on p99 but not many EQ players fit the profile for the types of players that would classically inhabit a PVP live server.

From a strictly blue EQ players perspective the population on red99 itself makes logging in and playing EQ a chore. There is no sense of community on red because the players there are from a different generation of gamers/eq players. Lets be honest the community makes everquest special and frankly without the community this game is shit. I log onto red a few times a month out of boredom and curiosity and its the same thing. Empty zones, huge trolls in OOC, and a lot of people calling eachother ******s and faggots (how is this not a bannable offense?)

The only hope for Red is opening a new teams based server (even this is a stretch though because eq simply wasn't developed for PVP) and a shitload of bans for all the WoW-generation of gamers that make logging into this server unbearable. Also, transfers from blue/red with no drop gear only is a great idea. You really can't expect anyone to invest time in a server that has had less than 100 players logged on for the majority of time it has been up.


Would be sweet if red players stuck to their section of the forums yoo, though. Nothing more annoying than having people try to force their will/ideas on you to make you resent them.

you mad, bro? about what i'd expect from a whiny bluebie. people like yourself can stay on blue. We only want the legit players from blue to come to red.

[myxomatosii]

hah! nice. you likened the biggest jew of red99 to hitler, and it worked. perfect analogy too. but to survive on red you can't give up (and to hitler!) that easily. you got to have that "live or die trying" mentality. i liked kwsn, from what i saw of them. would be awesome to see an entire guild start up some toons on red and cause trouble, that would be a blast.

edit: BTW the founder of that guild is in my sig. it's an attempt at discrediting me, posted on my personal profile here on p99 (later wiped by GMs). I repeated the story of how he stole my friend's manastone, and he got mad.

You know they say when an argument reaches the point where one person brings up Nazis or compares the other to Hitler, that person automatically loses the argument due to having nothing left to stand on.

But it just fit too well. It wasn't an attack or anything, just my experience haha. I logged in to very spectacular posts of promises and riches each day, I just shrugged and saw that people were eating it up so its obviously what they wanted :)

[Tasslehofp99]

Tasslehof you clearly don't know dick about the red server. Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.


I admitted that I have very little pvp exp. That doesn't change the facts about why red99 is a failure and continuing to waste resources on it is a terrible idea.


you mad, bro? about what i'd expect from a whiny bluebie. people like yourself can stay on blue. We only want the legit players from blue to come to red.

I'm not mad at all just sharing my opinion/observations. You're helping to back my post up with your WoW-kid type post in response though.

[Biaxil]

not really. your lame and inaccurate accounts, as well as suggestions of red are sad. maybe stop tucking your junk between your legs when you play and you wont be so uptight.

[quido]

I admitted that I have very little pvp exp. That doesn't change the facts about why red99 is a failure and continuing to waste resources on it is a terrible idea.

Again, I'm telling you you're fucking clueless. Take me at my word and shut your mouth before you further cement your standing as a moran.

[Softcore PK]

Would be sweet if red players stuck to their section of the forums too, though. Nothing more annoying than having people try to force their will/ideas on you to make you resent them.

No one wants to admit it, but we're all a little hurt over in the red forums because you bluebies never come to visit :(

[Biaxil]

No one wants to admit it, but we're all a little hurt over in the red forums because you bluebies never come to visit :(

haha, not of tassle's type. the blues that came to red and are loving it are the ones that i like.

[Tasslehofp99]

what exactly have I said that isn't 100% true in terms of eq pvp, p99 red, and the general attitude of the.players there?


this may just he a case where the truth hurts a lil


If I cared enough I woukd just log on red 99, turn /log on...and count how many derogatory terms are used in an hour.

Last time I played there (last week) it was like jerry springer meets world of warcraft, not my scene I guess.

[Derubael]

Let's be honest, tass.

There is just as many, if not more, derogatory comments on blue as there on red. It's just not as easy to see them because chat isn't global.

I use to think there were more 'toxic players' on blue than red, too. But since joining the staff, I've come to realize that isn't even remotely true - the percentage of players who are asshats is about the same.

On blue, it comes in different forms. Players taking up blackburrow at level 60 to farm fangs for an alt, or blocking raid content. Shit talk is extremely common on blue just like it is on red. There are plenty of examples of people telling other to 'kill themselves irl' or 'blah blah blah faggot' on blue, just like on red.

The forums are also similar - just look in blue RnF to see the sheer amount of hate that gets thrown around. Granted, until recently we treated red server chat just like red RnF, but we've been working to change that.

To summarize, the 'red is toxic' excuse is 100% bullshit - there's no more 'toxic' on red than there is on blue, you're just more exposed to it because of global chat. Being a GM, I get a pretty clear picture of exactly what goes on in terms of shitty behavior on both servers, and I can confidently say there is a much higher percentage of harassment based PnP violations on blue than there are on red.

TL;DR? blue has just as many assholes as red. they just dont have a public way to express it like they do with global ooc.

in other news, global ooc on red being patched and modified soon. recent change was bugged and isn't working as intended. once that is fixed, there will be far less exposure to shit talk. the time to roll on red99 is now (im told the group xp bonus is fantastic).

[quido]

The group exp bonus is fucking fantastic!

[jaybone]

Let's be honest, tass.

There is just as many, if not more, derogatory comments on blue as there on red. It's just not as easy to see them because chat isn't global.

I use to think there were more 'toxic players' on blue than red, too. But since joining the staff, I've come to realize that isn't even remotely true - the percentage of players who are asshats is about the same.

On blue, it comes in different forms. Players taking up blackburrow at level 60 to farm fangs for an alt, or blocking raid content. Shit talk is extremely common on blue just like it is on red. There are plenty of examples of people telling other to 'kill themselves irl' or 'blah blah blah faggot' on blue, just like on red.

The forums are also similar - just look in blue RnF to see the sheer amount of hate that gets thrown around. Granted, until recently we treated red server chat just like red RnF, but we've been working to change that.

To summarize, the 'red is toxic' excuse is 100% bullshit - there's no more 'toxic' on red than there is on blue, you're just more exposed to it because of global chat. Being a GM, I get a pretty clear picture of exactly what goes on in terms of shitty behavior on both servers, and I can confidently say there is a much higher percentage of harassment based PnP violations on blue than there are on red.

TL;DR? blue has just as many assholes as red. they just dont have a public way to express it like they do with global ooc.

in other news, global ooc on red being patched and modified soon. recent change was bugged and isn't working as intended. once that is fixed, there will be far less exposure to shit talk. the time to roll on red99 is now (im told the group xp bonus is fantastic).

Will toxic behavior be a bannable offense? I pulled a mob earlier today and didn't see the gnome camping it behind the statue. Got called a faggot after he charmed it.

[SyanideGas]

The group exp bonus is fucking fantastic!

[JPMorgan]

Let's be honest, tass.

There is just as many, if not more, derogatory comments on blue as there on red. It's just not as easy to see them because chat isn't global.

I use to think there were more 'toxic players' on blue than red, too. But since joining the staff, I've come to realize that isn't even remotely true - the percentage of players who are asshats is about the same.

On blue, it comes in different forms. Players taking up blackburrow at level 60 to farm fangs for an alt, or blocking raid content. Shit talk is extremely common on blue just like it is on red. There are plenty of examples of people telling other to 'kill themselves irl' or 'blah blah blah faggot' on blue, just like on red.

The forums are also similar - just look in blue RnF to see the sheer amount of hate that gets thrown around. Granted, until recently we treated red server chat just like red RnF, but we've been working to change that.

To summarize, the 'red is toxic' excuse is 100% bullshit - there's no more 'toxic' on red than there is on blue, you're just more exposed to it because of global chat. Being a GM, I get a pretty clear picture of exactly what goes on in terms of shitty behavior on both servers, and I can confidently say there is a much higher percentage of harassment based PnP violations on blue than there are on red.

TL;DR? blue has just as many assholes as red. they just dont have a public way to express it like they do with global ooc.

in other news, global ooc on red being patched and modified soon. recent change was bugged and isn't working as intended. once that is fixed, there will be far less exposure to shit talk. the time to roll on red99 is now (im told the group xp bonus is fantastic).

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[Robben]

what exactly have I said that isn't 100% true in terms of eq pvp, p99 red, and the general attitude of the.players there?


this may just he a case where the truth hurts a lil


If I cared enough I woukd just log on red 99, turn /log on...and count how many derogatory terms are used in an hour.

Last time I played there (last week) it was like jerry springer meets world of warcraft, not my scene I guess.


I've logged back onto Red since the group bonus was implemented and it's been fun.

EVERY PvP game has a vulgar chat channel of some kind, try to not let it bother you so much... It's no worse than the "comments" section on most sites.

[Daldaen]

Some PvP games begin with "GLHF" and end with "GG".

[Zalaerian]

what exactly have I said that isn't 100% true in terms of eq pvp, p99 red, and the general attitude of the.players there?


this may just he a case where the truth hurts a lil


If I cared enough I woukd just log on red 99, turn /log on...and count how many derogatory terms are used in an hour.

Last time I played there (last week) it was like jerry springer meets world of warcraft, not my scene I guess.

Red players are 1000x more competitive, adapt to situations on the fly faster than blue player, have key binds (this kills me still people click in 2014) and are generally better players because this and their driven desire to win. You blame WoW? I thank WoW. That game has has made people such better players at general requiring faster twitch rrflexes , key binding, communication ect . It raised the bar kn what was expected even in the most general PUG situations. The only thing orig EQ required was a shit ton of time. Skill in pve was non existent.

[Softcore PK]

Let's be honest, tass.

There is just as many, if not more, derogatory comments on blue as there on red. It's just not as easy to see them because chat isn't global.

I use to think there were more 'toxic players' on blue than red, too. But since joining the staff, I've come to realize that isn't even remotely true - the percentage of players who are asshats is about the same.

On blue, it comes in different forms. Players taking up blackburrow at level 60 to farm fangs for an alt, or blocking raid content. Shit talk is extremely common on blue just like it is on red. There are plenty of examples of people telling other to 'kill themselves irl' or 'blah blah blah faggot' on blue, just like on red.

The forums are also similar - just look in blue RnF to see the sheer amount of hate that gets thrown around. Granted, until recently we treated red server chat just like red RnF, but we've been working to change that.

To summarize, the 'red is toxic' excuse is 100% bullshit - there's no more 'toxic' on red than there is on blue, you're just more exposed to it because of global chat. Being a GM, I get a pretty clear picture of exactly what goes on in terms of shitty behavior on both servers, and I can confidently say there is a much higher percentage of harassment based PnP violations on blue than there are on red.

TL;DR? blue has just as many assholes as red. they just dont have a public way to express it like they do with global ooc.

in other news, global ooc on red being patched and modified soon. recent change was bugged and isn't working as intended. once that is fixed, there will be far less exposure to shit talk. the time to roll on red99 is now (im told the group xp bonus is fantastic).

Deru you've been working so hard to promote red. It must be pretty tough dealing with all us jerks. Thank you :)

Take a break from the bullshit when you need it. Would rather not see you get completely burned out and leave like many other supercool staff members before you.

[captnamazing]

I'll cum play in june

[Clark]

I'll join Red if I can talk to the Priest of Order and go non-PvP.

Lol

[freez]

Being a GM, I get a pretty clear picture of exactly what goes on in terms of shitty behavior on both servers, and I can confidently say there is a much higher percentage of harassment based PnP violations on blue than there are on red.




sry blew

[Rellapse40]

Bump cuz Juauna is a cry baby

[drktmplr12]

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker.


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090219235922/southpark/images/1/1f/Unclefuckerrap.JPG

[no chewie dont]

why would we want a blue guild, according to the latest map-hack thread poll 90% of blue server needs maps to get from point A to point B

[RiffDaemon]

Got called a faggot after he charmed it.

Hahahaha. Just tell him to lick your stick, kill him, and move on

[Faisca]

I have to say, after seeing all these RED threads in server chat, I’m starting to feel compelled to play on RED server. I think a couple hundred more threads like these would do the trick.

Keep it up guys. It can happen.

[Imslap]

I have to say, after seeing all these RED threads in server chat, I’m starting to feel compelled to play on RED server. I think a couple hundred more threads like these would do the trick.

Keep it up guys. It can happen.

[quido]

Imslap, I would advise you stay on blue. You'd have a conniption the first time something didn't go your way if you played on red.

[Imslap]

BRB Rerolling Red

[Recycled Children]

I'll join Red if I can talk to the Priest of Order and go non-PvP.

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1384/47/1384471756356.jpg

[Dragonsblood1987]

Bad guys say "kill yourself" and "youre retarded" and "lol fagget"



Good guys say "Hail"

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I have to say, after seeing all these RED threads in server chat, I’m starting to feel compelled to play on RED server. I think a couple hundred more threads like these would do the trick.

Keep it up guys. It can happen.

Done.

Let's move forward with the red initiative mmmmkay

[Tulnavara]

Bad guys say "kill yourself" and "youre retarded" and "lol fagget"



Good guys say "Hail"

Fansy was a hero.