Class Need

[Scikala]

Anything out of balance at higher levels?

Rolled a rogue, and seen a shit ton already, so debating a healer.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Seen lots of clerics moving through the ranks.

Haven't seen any mages or Necros yet.

[Scikala]

I've seen a couple of duo mages, one group as anyone in Qeynos could see was the Whoop twink twins haha.

I thought Iksar Necros/Monks were blowing up on Kunark?

[SamwiseRed]

Still lf clerics and wizards.

[Genedin]

Iksar necro is really stronk in PVE but in pvp they aren't very good on this server.
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with mages.

Honestly, if I had the option of any level 60 character I would pick an Iksar monk. Seem to be the most powerful single character in the game at the moment for pvp.

Melee only get stronger in velious so if you are wanting to go for kills and glory I'd go that route. If you want to be hand held and pixel showered make a cleric your life will be a lot easier.

[Scikala]

Iksar necro is really stronk in PVE but in pvp they aren't very good on this server.
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with mages.

Honestly, if I had the option of any level 60 character I would pick an Iksar monk. Seem to be the most powerful single character in the game at the moment for pvp.

Melee only get stronger in velious so if you are wanting to go for kills and glory I'd go that route. If you want to be hand held and pixel showered make a cleric your life will be a lot easier.

Mostly meant from a grouping perspective, I like earning my stuff period. It's why I havent asked for hand outs or tried to do a Blue to Red PP kind of thing.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Mostly meant from a grouping perspective, I like earning my stuff period. It's why I havent asked for hand outs or tried to do a Blue to Red PP kind of thing.

Good on you. Best way IMO.

My enchanter is nearly fully geared with stuff my level 52 blue enchanter would be jealous of. Not that hard.

[Scikala]

Yeah, rogue is 17 with some twin snake fang action and bought some leather after handing in a trove of bandit sashes. *flex*

[Rellapse40]

People will be begging for necros soon

Keeping that CH chain going for 20 mins with no donals bp to hand hold u gonna be rough

[Genedin]

Rogue is going to be hard I'd at least try and join a lvling guild I think there is one out now. But rogue is really powerful in pvp and in groups so you can't really go wrong.

[Sheriff]

Rogue 55+ makes it all worth it.

[LulzSect]

Red has a shortage of Rangers and Shadow Knights.

[SamwiseRed]

People will be begging for necros soon

Keeping that CH chain going for 20 mins with no donals bp to hand hold u gonna be rough

ya but wouldnt it be better if that necro was just another cleric?

[Vile]

ya but wouldnt it be better if that necro was just another cleric?

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Logic.+Too+much_9e6185_3905127.jpg

[Rellapse40]

ya but wouldnt it be better if that necro was just another cleric?

rather have a necro to twitch then a cleric who can't pay attention for more than 2 secs and wipes a raid over n over

[SamwiseRed]

ya true one cleric could fuck it up and the more clerics there are the more likely one will fuck up.

anyways to OP

WIZARDS AND CLERICS ARE NEEDED
otherwise play what you want.

[Drakaris]

People will be begging for necros soon

Keeping that CH chain going for 20 mins with no donals bp to hand hold u gonna be rough

Your forum content seems to be getting more legit, so I've dropped you from ignore.

If necros have a good stash of essence emeralds, they will be able to feed clerics, lay down the dps using spells and clickies (epic and vp stick) and dps with their pets.

I would really love to main my sk, but until they fill all their slots with hp gear they can't even rampage tank, let alone dps any where near 50% of a monk or rogue.

On the flip side in mass pvp a necro can only harass people with dots and dispells but generally can't do any real damage since most targets are fully raid buffed and the assist targets die too fast for your dots to be useful.

[Zalaerian]

strongest classes atm IMO:

Top TEIR
warrior w epic or VP 2h
monk w tstaff
ranger w windstriker
bard w epic
cleric
rogue

Lower TEIR
Paladin
SK
Chanter w inny shield
Wiz w epic
Mage w epic
druid
shaman
necro

[Drakaris]

strongest classes atm IMO:

Top TEIR
warrior w epic or VP 2h
monk w tstaff
ranger w windstriker
bard w epic
cleric
rogue

Lower TEIR
Paladin
SK
Chanter w inny shield
Wiz w epic
Mage w epic
druid
shaman
necro

Almost! I'm assuming this is for pvp?

Top tier:
Epic war
Tstaff monk
Wind striker bow ranger
Rogue
Epic bard

Mid tier
Epic sk
Cleric
Chanter with inny shield
Epic paladin with soul fire
Epic Mage
Epic wizard

Bottom tier:
Druid (post resists fix)
Shaman
Necro (worst class by far)

[dethbringre]

Paladin with soul fire is p. damn nasty. Not that he'll do much damage but you could have to kill him several times over before he runs out of that insta clicky

[Zalaerian]

cleric will always be top tier....i have yet to play a box where it was like "damn clerics are awful..". Will always be needed and godly in pvp in the right hands

[Rellapse40]

I never said they were awful. It is one of the best classes ever IF played right. Clerics spam Divine Light and chain click a donals here. There is really not much thought or skill involved atm. This will soon change, I wished they had nerfed Donals years ago i probably would of rolled another cleric on red.

Either way you can't fuck up a necro in pve.. you just twitch a cleric then masturbate.

[RogueRZ]

So wizards and clerics are needed? How about warriors?

[VincentVolaju]

Druid (post resists fix)

Are the resist changes that noticeable? What kind of difference has it made?

[Potus]

We need more proletariat.

People will be begging for necros soon

Keeping that CH chain going for 20 mins with no donals bp to hand hold u gonna be rough

Nah. Twitch isn't that efficient.

[freez]

class needed : real life humans

[Drakaris]

Are the resist changes that noticeable? What kind of difference has it made?

Druids were casting nukes like lures on 190 fr. Now they do half damage at those resists. My necro died in 3 casts, couldn't compete since taps never healed full amount in pvp.

Now they actually need to debuff, which they generally don't mem.

[Rellapse40]

We need more proletariat.



Nah. Twitch isn't that efficient.

shows how dum u r

[Potus]

shows how dum u r

PLEASE HAMMER, DON'T HURT EM

Complete Healing 400 mana
Sedulous Subversion 400 mana/gives 150

Costs the Necro 1200 mana just to give you 1 CH. Necro will give you roughly 2, maybe 3 CH's before he/she is OOM. Or they could cast whatever dot lands and nuke. That'll kill the mob faster and you won't need as many CH's.

BUT NAH. MANABATTERY BRO, MANA BATTERY

ya but wouldnt it be better if that necro was just another cleric?

^^ This guy is smart, listen to him.

[Drakaris]

PLEASE HAMMER, DON'T HURT EM

Complete Healing 400 mana
Sedulous Subversion 400 mana/gives 150

Costs the Necro 1200 mana just to give you 1 CH. Necro will give you roughly 2, maybe 3 CH's before he/she is OOM. Or they could cast whatever dot lands and nuke. That'll kill the mob faster and you won't need as many CH's.

BUT NAH. MANABATTERY BRO, MANA BATTERY



^^ This guy is smart, listen to him.

Depends, necros can offer the same amount of dps as a pally or sk with a spec pet and a mana efficient splurt, while feeding clerics in lich form. Don't forget the vp stick offers dps and helps necros gain life back at no mana. Plus dmf is not replacable.

Add essence emeralds to the mix and they get a mana spike on demand.

Just wait till velious if you don't believe me.

[Circa.]

Why do people always make these type of posts, at the end of the day if you play something that fills needs or ala bluebie trying to corner loot market etc. At the end of the day play what you enjoy because at the end of the day this is a video game after all.

[LostCause]

bards clerics

[Scikala]

Why do people always make these type of posts, at the end of the day if you play something that fills needs or ala bluebie trying to corner loot market etc. At the end of the day play what you enjoy because at the end of the day this is a video game after all.

Because some people don't have a class preferential and play the game to group, so a class in demand would get groups ergo enjoying the game. A fact compounded by the low population of the server. Not sure how retarded you have to be to not understand that concept.

Pretty sure any PvP I partake in would be group PvP, as sitting alone waiting to gank people Chewie style isnt my thing.

[no chewie dont]

Because some people don't have a class preferential and play the game to group, so a class in demand would get groups ergo enjoying the game. A fact compounded by the low population of the server. Not sure how retarded you have to be to not understand that concept.

Pretty sure any PvP I partake in would be group PvP, as sitting alone waiting to gank people Chewie style isnt my thing.

hear that pals? soloing a group is called Chewie style :cool:

[Scikala]

hear that pals? soloing a group is called Chewie style :cool:

Just from what I know of Lguk man, havent seen it myself so all hearsay. But it's what you like! (Wasn't a knock)

[Bazia]

Everything is needed except Shadowknights/Rangers.

Pretty legit argument to make for any other class being useful and needed.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I started my enchanter because I wanted a strong solo pve character - xp bonus had more or less just been removed by that point.

I have no regrets because I love playing the class.

[Potus]

Depends, necros can offer the same amount of dps as a pally or sk with a spec pet and a mana efficient splurt, while feeding clerics in lich form. Don't forget the vp stick offers dps and helps necros gain life back at no mana. Plus dmf is not replacable.

Add essence emeralds to the mix and they get a mana spike on demand.

Just wait till velious if you don't believe me.

I played a Nec during Velious. There was no huge demand for necros, and really lousy guilds tried to use them as mana batteries instead of having them kill the raid boss faster.

If you splurt and twitch you're making your twitch:CH ratio even worse. Might as well just let the necro dot and nuke.

Infusion is 1000 mana on a ten minute timer. Congrats, you get 2/3 of a CH every ten minutes. Over a 20 minute fight that's a whopping 1 additional CH. Not worth it.

Twitch bad, more clerics good, nukes/dots good. Make platinum, fuck wood elves.

[freez]

I played a Nec during Velious. There was no huge demand for necros, and really lousy guilds tried to use them as mana batteries instead of having them kill the raid boss faster.

If you splurt and twitch you're making your twitch:CH ratio even worse. Might as well just let the necro dot and nuke.

Infusion is 1000 mana on a ten minute timer. Congrats, you get 2/3 of a CH every ten minutes. Over a 20 minute fight that's a whopping 1 additional CH. Not worth it.

Twitch bad, more clerics good, nukes/dots good. Make platinum, fuck wood elves.


hate to shock you but only 1 necro could land his dots


rest were batteries



in every guild



yw

[Potus]

hate to shock you but only 1 necro could land his dots


rest were batteries



in every guild



yw

Rest can nuke. Also what guild had multiple necros LOLOL

[freez]

nuke? with what?

[Eslade]

I played a Nec during Velious. There was no huge demand for necros, and really lousy guilds tried to use them as mana batteries instead of having them kill the raid boss faster.

If you splurt and twitch you're making your twitch:CH ratio even worse. Might as well just let the necro dot and nuke.

Infusion is 1000 mana on a ten minute timer. Congrats, you get 2/3 of a CH every ten minutes. Over a 20 minute fight that's a whopping 1 additional CH. Not worth it.

Twitch bad, more clerics good, nukes/dots good. Make platinum, fuck wood elves.

you wouldn't get 2/3 of one ch from 1k mana. ch = 350 mana, so you're looking at almost 3 casts just from that one twitch.

[Azure]

I remember a classic guild of necro's only lol. They had like 32 necros and did everything classic

[freez]

Its safe to say potus doesnt understand necros.

[freez]

I was saving that part for later eslade ;(

[Eslade]

I was saving that part for later eslade ;(

Sorry, it was glaring at me.

[Rettj]

nuke? with what?

Unresistable life tap maybe?

Dunno but maybe if my theory craft came to fruition then the highly resistant magical skin of said gargantuan lizard beasts may be penetrated.

[Potus]

you wouldn't get 2/3 of one ch from 1k mana. ch = 350 mana, so you're looking at almost 3 casts just from that one twitch.

Necro gets 1000 mana. Costs 400 mana to give 150 to cleric.

What.

I remember a classic guild of necro's only lol. They had like 32 necros and did everything classic

Ah yes, the Necro Death Squad on Tarrew Marr. They were why Necros got nerfed in a ton of subsequent patches. They lasted about 90 days.

nuke? with what?

Depending on resist you use taps or

http://wiki.project1999.com/Incinerate_Bones
http://wiki.project1999.com/Conglaciation_of_Bones

Its safe to say potus doesnt understand necros.

Holy fuck the irony. Stop posting.

[freez]

I would assume he would of said tap then. I was waiting for him to say the skelly illusion nuke to confirm hes never heard a teamspeak when a necro "nukes" a dragon and his hitbox goes from a bus to a shoebox

[Rettj]

Lay off the new ports and crystal

Brain has rotted

[freez]

ohp nvm he did


he did




you dont do that bro

[freez]

Ima let u guys figure out why you have never seen a raid boss get skelly nuked even tho i already told you why.

[Potus]

ohp nvm he did


he did




you dont do that bro

Look at the spells, they're the ones without the illusion.

Holy fuck the irony. Stop posting.

[freez]

Ok so you have 2 spells available starting in velious that dont add skelly illusion.


I find it hard to believe that any retard had the job of doing this raid after raid.


Better off as batteries. Especially in velious.

[Potus]

Ok so you have 2 spells available starting in velious that dont add skelly illusion.


I find it hard to believe that any retard had the job of doing this raid after raid.


Better off as batteries. Especially in velious.

Takes 15 minutes to respond; can't explain why. Ignores math showing his opinion being wrong. Has no evidence. Looks stupid for 2 pages.

Seriously, for your own good, stop posting.

[SamwiseRed]

i thought p99 fucked up lifetaps because of hoop earrings.

[Rettj]

ITT: Freez fqing himself

Standard operating procedure

[freez]

Necros cant tap here anymore because of the hoops. They cant nuke here unless you count the 160 dmg shock of poison.


Potus the only thing u got me on is i wasnt aware there were velious spells that did the skelly nuke without the illusion. One drops off vindi. You cant even prove that spell landed on anything. On top of that, its still better to twitch healers than take aoe's or try to run in and out with wizards while doing half the dps ( if it even lands i sure as hell doubt it )

[freez]

Just sayin good luck landing these -0 resist mod necro nukes on level 66 mobs.


Pat yourself on the back for knowing 1 small velious gem over me. Too bad its moot because necros wont be doing it anyway.

[Rettj]

Can you please try to formulate your thoughts into a single post?

Several doubles in here...

[Potus]

Necros cant tap here anymore because of the hoops. They cant nuke here unless you count the 160 dmg shock of poison.


Potus the only thing u got me on is i wasnt aware there were velious spells that did the skelly nuke without the illusion. One drops off vindi. You cant even prove that spell landed on anything. On top of that, its still better to twitch healers than take aoe's or try to run in and out with wizards while doing half the dps ( if it even lands i sure as hell doubt it )

Here's what landed on who. (http://web.archive.org/web/20021221071046/http://necro.eqclasses.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9151)

Stop. Posting.

[freez]

Gonna have to pull the classic card on ya here.

Luclin was out in your post.

[LulzSect]

http://i.imgur.com/2WInSSZ.gif

[freez]

Did you even read that thread? The only mob on that entire list at luclin era that isnt in kunark that can get hit with conglaciation of bones is AoW.

[Potus]

Did you even read that thread? The only mob on that entire list at luclin era that isnt in kunark that can get hit with conglaciation of bones is AoW.

Did you miss all the Taps, Splurt, Fire line, Cessation of Cor line, on a lot of mobs?

Also read the thread, there's way more than just AoW.

Keep posting!

[freez]

Those are dots... we are talking about nukes. But ok.

We already agreed 1 necro can do dots. Thats it.

So we were talking about nukes remember? Yeah.


So it lands on AoW. Thats all i saw in the sea of luclin raid mobs.

Nothing counts in kunark. I know these spells hit kunark dragons on p99.


Taps is another thing. No shit necros could tap on live. Its a lure.

Taps dont land on much in p99. Doubt theyre going to change the lifetap flag or youl just have 130 zerglings hooping down vulak.

[freez]

Oh theres one more. Velk.


so 2 mobs.


Good argument bro.

[HippoNipple]

Don't give a shit what people post on here about what some dip shit did 15 years ago. If necros are casting DDs on bosses Nizzar or Lite will put an end to that real quick.

[freez]

lmao

[Drakaris]

Did you miss all the Taps, Splurt, Fire line, Cessation of Cor line, on a lot of mobs?

Also read the thread, there's way more than just AoW.

Keep posting!

The dots do become more efficient during the longer fights, so necros could maintain dmf bot/dps status rather than cleric twitch bot, it comes down to resists.

[LizardNecro]

Iksar necro is really stronk in PVE but in pvp they aren't very good on this server.

You're saying Iksar necro isn't good in pvp??

[Potus]

Those are dots... we are talking about nukes. But ok.

We already agreed 1 necro can do dots. Thats it.

So we were talking about nukes remember? Yeah.


So it lands on AoW. Thats all i saw in the sea of luclin raid mobs.

Nothing counts in kunark. I know these spells hit kunark dragons on p99.


Taps is another thing. No shit necros could tap on live. Its a lure.

Taps dont land on much in p99. Doubt theyre going to change the lifetap flag or youl just have 130 zerglings hooping down vulak.

Gozz, Talendor, Klandi, General V'Ghera, Trak, Velk.

But hey, just two mobs. Also that list wasn't complete, we just have the archive of that post.

Also LOL if you think people are going to start spamming a level 29 necro lifetap from an item that has had its drop rate nerfed beyond classic level. Just nerf that lifetap, no 60 necro is going to use it on a raid.

Bad poster keeps posting. :eek:

Don't give a shit what people post on here about what some dip shit did 15 years ago. If necros are casting DDs on bosses Nizzar or Lite will put an end to that real quick.

Yeah I ran into that on Vallon Zek. Was told to twitch, not nuke/dot. "Just twitch!" they said. "Your spells don't do any damage," they told me.

So the next mob boss I loaded up our main tank with splurt, fire line, bond of death, then turned him into a skeleton. He died and we wiped.

I took no blame because my spells don't do damage.

[Colgate]

potus proving once again that he has no idea what he is talking about

[Potus]

potus proving once again that he has no idea what he is talking about

Was waiting for you to show up. Please mansplain how necros are pvp gods again. All we're missing is Nirgon and then I have bad P99 poster Bingo.

[Colgate]

never said they were pvp gods, only that they're fine in the right hands and that they scale better than every other caster

[Vile]

kaw kaw

[Colgate]

kaw

[Eslade]

Never seen someone get so mad over having to give mana to Clerics.

I want all your mana,
give it to me.

[Potus]

Never seen someone get so mad over having to give mana to Clerics.

I want all your mana,
give it to me.

1000 mana. LOL.

never said they were pvp gods, only that they're fine in the right hands and that they scale better than every other caster

You realize this shit is written down, right?

necros are fine in pvp, just no skilled players here really
people dont understand how to bury dots

necro is fine

Best part is you posting a pic of you killing a necro with 3 buff slots open. The Grandmaster doesn't even believe his own bullshit.

[HippoNipple]

Gozz, Talendor, Klandi, General V'Ghera, Trak, Velk.

But hey, just two mobs. Also that list wasn't complete, we just have the archive of that post.

Also LOL if you think people are going to start spamming a level 29 necro lifetap from an item that has had its drop rate nerfed beyond classic level. Just nerf that lifetap, no 60 necro is going to use it on a raid.

Bad poster keeps posting. :eek:



Yeah I ran into that on Vallon Zek. Was told to twitch, not nuke/dot. "Just twitch!" they said. "Your spells don't do any damage," they told me.

So the next mob boss I loaded up our main tank with splurt, fire line, bond of death, then turned him into a skeleton. He died and we wiped.

I took no blame because my spells don't do damage.

I didn't say a necro can't do damage. They have great dots. I just said if a necro is casting DDs on a boss on this server whoever is in charge will put an end to it. This is assuming it is a boss that is tough and not steamrolled in 10 seconds. I'm referring to raids that need to be run efficiently.

[Drakaris]

You're saying Iksar necro isn't good in pvp??

No, back when the PvP boards were in full swing, necros were the worst performing class statistically.

This server isn't true classic where necros would kill a player in 1 splurt after sending a pet on them. End game pvpers are fully twinked and run around with full hp buffs. Nukes used to land like lures and even after resists patch still land 200-400% more effectively then they did in classic pvp.

[Colgate]

guarantee a majority of the players on this server dont keep 3 open slots

also, you can bury poison dots pretty easily regardless of their buff setup

[Potus]

I didn't say a necro can't do damage. They have great dots. I just said if a necro is casting DDs on a boss on this server whoever is in charge will put an end to it. This is assuming it is a boss that is tough and not steamrolled in 10 seconds. I'm referring to raids that need to be run efficiently.

That's fine. The original statement that started this entire derail was whether or not another Necro was more valuable than another Cleric in a CH line.

[Lojik]

All we're missing is Nirgon and then I have bad P99 poster Bingo.

Don't really know or care who is right in this argument but lol @ this

[LizardNecro]

No, back when the PvP boards were in full swing, necros were the worst performing class statistically.

This server isn't true classic where necros would kill a player in 1 splurt after sending a pet on them. End game pvpers are fully twinked and run around with full hp buffs. Nukes used to land like lures and even after resists patch still land 200-400% more effectively then they did in classic pvp.

Are resists for necros significantly changed from live? I was one of the best geared pvp necros on SZ, and deflux was almost never resisted. Splurt and Ignite Blood (I think?) were also effectively never resisted. I, and other top necros, would routinely solo take on full groups of 60s and win.

I'm curious how necros are bad now. Does deflux not land here? That spell was the cornerstone of the necro pvp ability.

[Zalaerian]

Necros are strong 1v1 vs other casters...the the main issues are as follows.

1) Everyone has pumice, unlike live

2) Overall DoT dmg is weak

3) Cure pots are every where

4) EoT is awful

The most successful playstyle I had with my necro here is to play them like a wizard. The only DoT i used was Cessastion of Cor (not for the dot but for the -50 STR the wrecks casters; ghetto snare). I would run deflux,touch of night and trucidate and just nuke. Add in 2 DAs and shadowstep you can live thru assists. Call of Bones is great as well to hide amongst the AoN'd skell armies.

I ended up switching to chanter for my previous guild desperately needing one, got an inny shield and never looked back

LizardNecro,,,feel free to hit me up in game on Ksah if you have questions

[Colgate]

hey look a good player who played a necro on this server saying that they aren't awful

8)

[heartbrand]

Problem with being a caster is mass pvp at end game is all about having thirty level 60 melees melt you in three seconds. While in some scenarios you can get a geometry advantage and hide and cast, in many others it's rather difficult to find a good a spot to drop bombs from and you die faster than an adc in a oL team fight.

[Potus]

hey look a good player who played a necro on this server saying that they aren't awful

8)

You read what he just said and came to that conclusion?

people dont understand how to bury dots

necro is fine


1) Everyone has pumice, unlike live

2) Overall DoT dmg is weak

3) Cure pots are every where


Ohhh Colgate.

[Rettj]

my necro was top 10 on LOZ kunark

yall a bunch of scrubs

[Zalaerian]

LOZ necros lol...EoT on that server on par w mage epic

[Zalaerian]

I'm glad as the #1 reference on pvp necros on this server could clear this up for Potus

[SamwiseRed]

tbrz is right Potus, not sure what to tell ya

[Potus]

tbrz is right Potus, not sure what to tell ya

I agree with what he's saying, actually, I'm LOL'ing at Colgate saying DoTs are the secret to success.

[Xantille]

class need = level 60 with all of your RL chromosomes intact (and not a ranger)

[Drakaris]

Necros are strong 1v1 vs other casters...the the main issues are as follows.

1) Everyone has pumice, unlike live

2) Overall DoT dmg is weak

3) Cure pots are every where

4) EoT is awful

The most successful playstyle I had with my necro here is to play them like a wizard. The only DoT i used was Cessastion of Cor (not for the dot but for the -50 STR the wrecks casters; ghetto snare). I would run deflux,touch of night and trucidate and just nuke. Add in 2 DAs and shadowstep you can live thru assists. Call of Bones is great as well to hide amongst the AoN'd skell armies.

I ended up switching to chanter for my previous guild desperately needing one, got an inny shield and never looked back

LizardNecro,,,feel free to hit me up in game on Ksah if you have questions

Agree with everything here except using lifetaps like nukes. Very mana inefficient since taps don't heal for the full amount in pvp like live and you won't win vs players that use skin.

To beat casters use the following; open up with poison bolt to test their pr, if it lands expect a 70% chance of interrupt and follow up with ebolt . Throw in a cessation of cor if they look like they are going to run. If they do not cure poison bolt, once ebolt lands chase them with poison bolt spam until they die.

If they do have high pr, follow up poison bolt with cessation of cor, then vexing moridinia, da because chances are your skin would be gone and you will be on 20-50% health from the nukes. The vexing moridinia will get you back to full when da fades but your opponent would most likely have cured/dispelled or gated and died at their bind , which makes it a stalemate.

[SamwiseRed]

lifetaps dont heal for full amount here? didnt know that hmmmm

[Drakaris]

lifetaps dont heal for full amount here? didnt know that hmmmm

They heal for the nerfed pvp damage done, where the dots heal for full.

[Zalaerian]

Agree with everything here except using lifetaps like nukes. Very mana inefficient since taps don't heal for the full amount in pvp like live and you won't win vs players that use skin.

To beat casters use the following; open up with poison bolt to test their pr, if it lands expect a 70% chance of interrupt and follow up with ebolt . Throw in a cessation of cor if they look like they are going to run. If they do not cure poison bolt, once ebolt lands chase them with poison bolt spam until they die.

If they do have high pr, follow up poison bolt with cessation of cor, then vexing moridinia, da because chances are your skin would be gone and you will be on 20-50% health from the nukes. The vexing moridinia will get you back to full when da fades but your opponent would most likely have cured/dispelled or gated and died at their bind , which makes it a stalemate.

Let me clarify...mass pvp

[Zalaerian]

An taps are mana effective vs dmg done since dots are pell'd. Always go for the guarantee dmg over dispellable. Same goes for wizards using draughts vs lure of ice. Too e z to partial shit these days.

[Vayder]

Why do people mention resists when talking necro pvp balance but never mention the bigger factor? Melee hit like 80% of the time and for more damage per swing than they did on live.

[Drakaris]

An taps are mana effective vs dmg done since dots are pell'd. Always go for the guarantee dmg over dispellable. Same goes for wizards using draughts vs lure of ice. Too e z to partial shit these days.

Poison bolt is a level 4 dot that has a knock back and can interrupt. If they cure it, they are wasting charges, if they aren't then u ebolt since cure needs to hit the lower dot first. If they decide to start curing then u keep applying the level 4 dot. You getting it yet?

[Drakaris]

Why do people mention resists when talking necro pvp balance but never mention the bigger factor? Melee hit like 80% of the time and for more damage per swing than they did on live.

This is true, I remember missing casters 30-50% of the time with my monk, seems like AP vs AC is awefully skewed here.

[SamwiseRed]

the average melee on here is way better geared than how it was on live but i still agree that melees hit way too hard and too often.

[Rettj]

Turning auto attack on and off again instantly while duel wielding = 20% chance to interrupt caster.

Do it again =40%

A third time 60%

Hmmmmmmmmm

[SamwiseRed]

each time would be 20%, if it added up like that then it would be 100% after 5 jousts which isnt true. didnt reply so you could edit :)

[Zalaerian]

Poison bolt is a level 4 dot that has a knock back and can interrupt. If they cure it, they are wasting charges, if they aren't then u ebolt since cure needs to hit the lower dot first. If they decide to start curing then u keep applying the level 4 dot. You getting it yet?

Except this is flawed because poison bolt is 1 poison counter, ebolt is 10...counter rips off 8 at a time. You cant "cover" your ebolt a 1 poison counter "dummy" spell. 2 cures are needed for take off ebolt anyway. Poison bolt will not affect this.

The only time it works is for shamans really who want to cover their Pox with Insidious. Insidious is 9 = 2 cures to rip off...Pox another 9. Easily done as well since insidious is unresistable and a 1 sec cast.

[Rettj]

each time would be 20%, if it added up like that then it would be 100% after 5 jousts which isnt true. didnt reply so you could edit :)

its true

[SamwiseRed]

no thats not how that works brother.

[HippoNipple]

its true

if you flip a coin twice there isn't a 100% chance you will get heads. That is all.

[freez]

Gozz, Talendor, Klandi, General V'Ghera, Trak, Velk.

But hey, just two mobs. Also that list wasn't complete, we just have the archive of that post.

Also LOL if you think people are going to start spamming a level 29 necro lifetap from an item that has had its drop rate nerfed beyond classic level. Just nerf that lifetap, no 60 necro is going to use it on a raid.

Bad poster keeps posting. :eek:



Yeah I ran into that on Vallon Zek. Was told to twitch, not nuke/dot. "Just twitch!" they said. "Your spells don't do any damage," they told me.

So the next mob boss I loaded up our main tank with splurt, fire line, bond of death, then turned him into a skeleton. He died and we wiped.

I took no blame because my spells don't do damage.


I said two mobs minus pre velious junk like general and talendor. Tunnel vision much?




Youre retarded bro.


Play something else.

Also another reason youre retarded. All high end bosses minus nexona, phara dar, possibly cazic, and thats about the only things you can tap here. Because of hoops.. They didnt nerf the drop rate you idiot. They nerfed the spell all together.

[freez]

So basicly like i said on page 1, if theres one necro dropping dots, you will never be under a boss nuking unless youre killing kunark junk that nobody wants, velk or AoW.

Even on velk/ AoW theres no fucking way youre going to be nuking. Good luck convincing anyone of that.



Youre whole argument is wrapped around 2 out of 70 raid mobs u can even land these spells on. You posted a list to prove that these spells land. Well they dont.

[Not Salem]

I would have to agree with Tbrz on this, not only is his logic sound on paper, but Drakar has one of the worst pvp track records out there, on both his Necro and SK. His in game performance does not support his argument here.

[Rettj]

I never said they were awful. It is one of the best classes ever IF played right. Clerics spam Divine Light and chain click a donals here. There is really not much thought or skill involved atm. This will soon change, I wished they had nerfed Donals years ago i probably would of rolled another cleric on red.

Either way you can't fuck up a necro in pve.. you just twitch a cleric then masturbate.

chain click your donals in pvp yall

pro tip from relappse

[Bazia]

I bind camped and deleveled Rellapse on launch day

[Rettj]

I made him spend 2 pumices to cure a tash proc from my journey man's stick

That's 10 clicks for u mathematicians

[Drakaris]

I would have to agree with Tbrz on this, not only is his logic sound on paper, but Drakar has one of the worst pvp track records out there, on both his Necro and SK. His in game performance does not support his argument here.

LOL coming from a guy that had full shaman buffs, and needed DS pots in an 'honor duel' against another unbuffed SK 2 levels lower than them and only won by 2% health... 2% health whats that less than 100 hp?... hows abusing IP exemption doing? Still suspended on Beastagor?

You guys keep forgetting that poison bolt interrupts... this includes interrupting cures...

[Not Salem]

are you forgetting how many times you have died on your characters? wasn't drakar like 2:50 by the time reached level 60?

[Potus]

I said two mobs minus pre velious junk like general and talendor. Tunnel vision much?




Youre retarded bro.


Play something else.

Also another reason youre retarded. All high end bosses minus nexona, phara dar, possibly cazic, and thats about the only things you can tap here. Because of hoops.. They didnt nerf the drop rate you idiot. They nerfed the spell all together.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Ivandyr's_Hoop

Can no longer be sold to (or recharged by) merchants. No longer unresistable. Does not work in Veeshan's Peak. Also made a more rare reward than in classic, due to imbalance with raid mobs. (Sept 10, 2011 patch)[1]

Bad poster continues to be bad. Stop posting, seriously, you haven't said a single correct thing in the thread.

[heartbrand]

Potus is right hoop rate was nerfed HARD. But don't bother responding to freez be didn't play here classic, is a non factor, and is still searching for gainful employment in real life.

[SamwiseRed]

by gainfully employed do you mean sandwich artist? if so then im good to go.

[Rettj]

sam say it aint so

[SamwiseRed]

naw i wish, id eat that place clean.

[Missingo]

how are SKs in pvp here?

[SamwiseRed]

how are SKs in pvp here?

only the most powerful class in the game.

[no chewie dont]

logged on with ht down got a double kill anyway nbd