EXP is great, Lvl range is no good

[jestingoff02]

4 lvl range is no good!

[SamwiseRed]

then why were you OOR healing today? hehe

[jestingoff02]

then why were you OOR healing today? hehe

gay huh?

[jestingoff02]

maby some kind of flag when oor healers get involved so they become red to ya

[BigHurb]

no thanks, now people can level up to a reasonable range without getting ganked by 60's.

"go back to blue" i guess

[SamwiseRed]

flagging system would be nice. i cant remember which game but whatever it was lower levels were allowed to attack any range above them. once doing this they became flagged for that range. id like to see something like that so if OOR can be dealt with. the only disadvantage to this is a lower level will be able to get the first shot off a higher level before they are flagged.

[Colgate]

rogean tried coding a flagging system to combat oor healers and shit back in the beta, and it sort of worked, but there were so many bugs that he got burnt out on development

and that's why red99 launched with so many broken features

[SamwiseRed]

yea id rather not have a flagging system if it gonna be a crazy time sink and possibly broken as hell. lets just see how this one plays out.

[Fawqueue]

If you give it enough time, a natural balance will develop. If OOR healing becomes an issues, then people will respond by bringing OOR melee to deal with it.

[SamwiseRed]

oor melee vs an oor healer would be pretty fun. just watching the healer get pummeled without backup hehe

[Telron]

If it were me I would rather that guy play a lvl 60 character than hide from pvp. The heals won't be as beneficial as the dps or utility a lvl 60 anything would bring. Gonna have to watch for those boxers though hehe

[BigHurb]

we already had a battle where nihilum brought in one person in range for every person.. its a non-issue and pvp is more possible now.

qq op

[Smedy]

If were talking about flagging systems for PVP i think its time to remove plugging too, that's about the first thing i'd get rid of if i was head of red99, plugging is a disease and makes pvp extremely boring, most fights ends up with someone plugging, everyone does it cause you would be dumb not to.

Very easily fixed tho, but due to "not classic" argument it will never be fixed.

[Azure]

Whats worse an OOR healer who is 51 and your level 20 or an OOR healer who's 53 and your 60?

People staying 55 and not level capping for pvp is classic. Stop being such a bluebie about pvp and QQing about not being able to attack people at 60. Chewie is the only player on this box that ever stayed 51.

[Kergan]

If were talking about flagging systems for PVP i think its time to remove plugging too, that's about the first thing i'd get rid of if i was head of red99, plugging is a disease and makes pvp extremely boring, most fights ends up with someone plugging, everyone does it cause you would be dumb not to.

Very easily fixed tho, but due to "not classic" argument it will never be fixed.

Nah. Alecta was actively trying to fix plugging but didn't quite get the code right. I never saw a response from any dev saying they think it should stay in because "it's classic". The is very little in common with classic on this server when it comes to the PVP specific aspects of R99. Just one of those things on the list that hopefully will get done in the future.

[Gaunja]

Level range fine. Took three lvl 3 noobs to take out a lvl 7 with a rusty 2hander lol

[heals4reals]

Level range fine. Took three lvl 3 noobs to take out a lvl 7 with a rusty 2hander lol

Sounds eggsilerating

Glad 2 have u on the box

[Genedin]

If were talking about flagging systems for PVP i think its time to remove plugging too, that's about the first thing i'd get rid of if i was head of red99, plugging is a disease and makes pvp extremely boring, most fights ends up with someone plugging, everyone does it cause you would be dumb not to.

Very easily fixed tho, but due to "not classic" argument it will never be fixed.



Agree with you Smedy. Honestly that would be really the only thinking I would ask for right now. Recent changes are great but plugging really takes away from a "pvp" server when you can plug.

[SamwiseRed]

alot of people dont realize how much YT there would be if there was no plugging. id say at LEAST double the YT if not triple. I've personally never plugged and wont. I have died near ZL because i refuse to throw my modem out the window if im losing. Honor guide me.

[Gaunja]

Can someone explain the definition of a plug or plugging please?

[SamwiseRed]

basically someone disconnects from everquest while zoning.

say im in DL. I zone into KC and "plug"

I wont pop up in KC but my character will be logged there.

[SamwiseRed]

anti plug code would force someone to zone even if disconnected. whether or not AI would take over the character would be up to the devs but it would allow people to finish off their fleeing victim.

[Recycled Children]

Can someone explain the definition of a plug or plugging please?

Unless I'm mistaken it originally referred to unplugging your modem as you zoned now it refers to closing your EQ client as you zone as a way to avoid PvP death. Though I will plug when necessary I wouldn't mind seeing it go.

[heartbrand]

only change needed is more content

[SamwiseRed]

Yeh just dont do it wrong or people might see who ur 2boxxed cleric LD at same time
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/EQ000319_zpsb65a614f.png

Lol good one

[Kergan]

Damning evidence for sure.

[Azure]

lol /pras chewie

[Elspeth]

removing plugging is about the dumbest idea ive ever heard. not only is it an OG legit tactic, but crashing while zoning is much too common on this server.

[Smedy]

removing plugging is about the dumbest idea ive ever heard. not only is it an OG legit tactic, but crashing while zoning is much too common on this server.

literally never crashed during zone, stop downloading porn.exe and get a job elspeth <3

[Elspeth]

honestly i personally dont have that much of a problem with crashing as long as i reboot my box on a somewhat regular basis (downloading RAMdisk helped with this alot). however i see it happen to other people and hear people saying they crashed in TS while zoning multiple times everyday. and it will be a cold day in hell before i get a job with all these pixels to be had smed :P

[Kergan]

I only reboot my machine when I stop getting mouseover text which is like 2-3 weeks minimum. The only time I've ever crashed zoning is after dying in VP and even that has only happened two or three times. If people crash a lot they're doing something wrong.

Besides, if you're legitimately zoning and not engaged in PVP there are pretty good odds there won't be someone on the other side waiting for you and you'll time out just fine.

[Colgate]

i probably crash on zoning at least once or twice a week

[Kergan]

If people crash a lot they're doing something wrong.

[Ziggy]

Immy/OOR healing is classic, this thread is invalid. (although servers that had a level range were always 8 levels, where did 4 come from?)

[Pikrib]

RZ was 4 lvl range

I would like a 5-6 lvl range myself...

[Kergan]

Yeah, RZ was 4. But I think that had direct correlation with item loot. With more at stake they wanted to make the fights a little more even when they occurred.

[Azure]

if your zoning during pvp and crashing antiplug code is doing its job colgate, no excuse to run to the zl

[Nirgon]

Rather have a little OOR healing here and there than people getting murdered by lvl 60s at any level in solb/perma or raids of sub 55 players getting griefed off the box/guilds destroyed.

U no.

Dat.

Merle Dixon knows this shit be classic, even in the face of the brain dead flesh eating forum ZOMBIES.

[sunmilk]

Immy/OOR healing is classic, this thread is invalid. (although servers that had a level range were always 8 levels, where did 4 come from?)

you obviously didn't play on sullon zek.

[Nothxu]

Gotta fix the OOR shit going on. OOR clerics ressing and healing in fights is pretty shitty.