Removal of OOC issue: Calling single-player LnS and guild LnS

[Slathar]

What if you can't see LnS being called? What is the solution? Does the dead player have to send the player who killed them a tell saying, "LnS Zone X?"

Thanks.

[Imago]

This is a good point to raise.

I would imagine shouting works upon zone in, maybe calling in ooc upon regional entry.

[Derubael]

Follows the same rules as before. Use /OOC. Everybody will be on the honor system a bit here - but they always were anyway, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue.

[Slathar]

Follows the same rules as before. Use /OOC. Everybody will be on the honor system a bit here - but they always were anyway, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue.

What if you're resurrected into a zone that you're not adjacent to? For example, you're bound in Kithicor and you're res'd into Karnor's. The person in Karnor's cannot see the LnS call. The person pops up and you kill them instantly, but they say they called LnS.

How does that LnS get called/enforced?

[Agatha]

the way i play it, if u say LNS is say, i grant lns, u say it in shout, i grant lns, if you spell out LNS with dropped pumices, i grant LNS.


don't be an asshole and rule lawyer this shit

[Derubael]

In a situation like this it's best if everyone uses a bit of forethought - IE, the person giving the res should let the people around him know the person is on LnS in KC.

There's obviously going to be a bit of a warning in most cases because of the yellow-text, so use that as a base-line. I'm sure there will be some screw-ups (like there always has been), so if everyone does their best to be aware of what's going on and uses their head, everything should be fine.

[Slathar]

the way i play it, if u say LNS is say, i grant lns, u say it in shout, i grant lns, if you spell out LNS with dropped pumices, i grant LNS.


don't be an asshole and rule lawyer this shit

But there's no way to shout, say or drop pumices if you're not in the same zone is my point. There's no way to communicate now except for tells.

[Slathar]

In a situation like this it's best if everyone uses a bit of forethought - IE, the person giving the res should let the people around him know the person is on LnS in KC.

There's obviously going to be a bit of a warning in most cases because of the yellow-text, so use that as a base-line. I'm sure there will be some screw-ups (like there always has been), so if everyone does their best to be aware of what's going on and uses their head, everything should be fine.

Thanks for the clarification.

With this population of players there is always going to be a rule-lawyer who takes it to the extremes. I think eventually there will need to be concrete rules for this, because just saying "don't be an asshole" doesn't work. I guess I'm just saying that there needs to be some sort of posted rule for this exact situation or else it opens a new avenue of grief that GMs and administrators are trying to get rid of for good reason.

[Derubael]

Thanks for the clarification.

With this population of players there is always going to be a rule-lawyer who takes it to the extremes. I think eventually there will need to be concrete rules for this, because just saying "don't be an asshole" doesn't work. I guess I'm just saying that there needs to be some sort of posted rule for this exact situation or else it opens a new avenue of grief that GMs and administrators are trying to get rid of for good reason.

It will actually be easier to spot than you think. One-off mistakes and screw-ups aren't a big deal. Person in question can apologize, guy can get his corpse, and everyone can move on. If someone is doing it habitually, they will get dealt with. :)

[BigHurb]

sorry derubael that makes sense... can we extend this thread with more theoretical scenarios that no one cares about LOL

[Slathar]

sorry derubael that makes sense... can we extend this thread with more theoretical scenarios that no one cares about LOL

You'll care about it when I log Miguel on and kill you 500 more times.

[Galacticus]

Before you murder someone who just got a Rez send them a tell "LNS?"

If they don't respond in 10 seconds or you see them trying to loot up or run before they answer you then I'd say they are fair game.

[Zereh]

How about just assume LnS until their actions say otherwise.

[Smedy]

How about just assume LnS until their actions say otherwise.

no, thats dumb, you assume they bindrush else you'll be sorry, cuz they always are

i don't like the ooc change, box feels emtpy already. ooc was toxic cause there was no reason to group, so it was used for toxic behavior. Now there's a big incentive to group thus ooc would be used to look for groups way more.

You can't add OOC then have a system where grouping actually slows everything down and think the ooc is just gonna be a tool that people will use to worsen their experience. That's like giving a caveman a hammer and think he will build a house with it, nope... he'd kill people with it

If the reason to limit ooc is because some newbie got offended by slathar talking shit in ooc why not just make a system where you can't see anyone posting in ooc that is lvl 30 or higher at lvl 1, and then at lvl 30 maybe you can see everything? There's tons of way to do this but to do this limit based on zones isn't good for anyone.

[Xantille]

i don't like the ooc change, box feels emtpy already. ooc was toxic cause there was no reason to group, so it was used for toxic behavior. Now there's a big incentive to group thus ooc would be used to look for groups way more.

the swede brings up a strong point. also, how am i supposed to say pras when people die now?

[Telron]

Play the game. Stop trying to find ways to legitimize being a douche bag. Simple as that. Jesus, its just a game! lmfao.

[Kazi]

Could you make a /lns tag?

[BigHurb]

You'll care about it when I log Miguel on and kill you 500 more times.

i would actually enjoy that, as i enjoyed all the other times you raped me. you are a classy rapist and i salute your efforts.

[BigHurb]

Could you make a /lns tag?

oh shit that makes total sense ... give this man a prize.

[Jenni D]

Lns tag p good idea

[BigHurb]

so im reinstalling so you can rape me please... about to open the titanium case and start disc one.

dont make me do this