Shaman Rage Line of Spells (Proof)

[skorge]

Hey there found proof of what it's suspose to do from a 03/2001 wayback search:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010305...s/level_49.htm

Shaman spell "Rage" (level 49 spell):

100 mana
18m (duration)
+ 51 Dexterity (60 max), +51 Strength, +18 AC, +51 Agility (55 max).
Self only, no spells may be cast for 6 ticks.

Update: looks like it gets changed to the above on december 2000 (release of Velious)

[tristantio]

I too noticed the earlier version also draining mana continually, I don't recall it doing that in classic.

[quido]

Supposedly it was bugged in classic to have just the regen and not the mana drain component - Uthgaard fixed it shortly before Kunark.

Is this really solid proof that there was no mana drain component then? Should probably find more evidence.

[skorge]

Supposedly it was bugged in classic to have just the regen and not the mana drain component - Uthgaard fixed it shortly before Kunark.

Is this really solid proof that there was no mana drain component then? Should probably find more evidence.

It NEVER had regen (at least the spell "rage") in classic is the thing; I have no idea why the version on P99 had regen to start with (maybe that's the way it works on Live now?) I played a shaman from 1999-2001 (Vanilla-Velious). I quit EQ during Velious era. I remember using Rage to solo tough mobs/camps. If you were just root rotting mobs you didn't really need it because all it provided was melee type buffs and AC, but if you were planning to take some hits, it actually mattered.

This is 100% real and accurate description of Rage.

Also note the website: The Shaman's Crucible. The #1 Go to website back then for shaman.

[skorge]

If link does not work go to: http://archive.org/web/ and type in: http://www.shamanscrucible.com/ and then click on the spells.

Look at level 49 spells and "Rage" - you can view info on all spells 1-60 here. Rage does not drain mana nor does it add regen.

[tristantio]

Found this tidbit:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010503005153/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spelldescriptions.asp?Id=1183


An upgrade to Fury this spell is a good general stat buff for Shamans increasing their offensive capabilities.

It was changed in December from a mana draining health regen buff to the new pure stat bonus buff.

[tristantio]

Also comments from the page here (please note that ALL comments on the site using Wayback say 1/28/2001 as the post date and is obviously incorrect, see here
http://web.archive.org/web/20010630080218/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spelldescriptions.asp?Id=516&Page=2 as well for proof)



ANY OTHER BONUS TO THE SPELL, By Zagukahnn (1/28/2001)

I was wondering if there was any other bonus to this spell. I read somwhere that you gain double attack when under the spell. (didn't seem right but need clarification)
HOW 'RAGE' LINE WORKS, By Nobdy (1/28/2001)

This particular spell (rage) takes 45 mana to cast, and it puts a buff icon in your list. As long as the buff is active, you gain str, ac, and faster regen, and any mana you still have left is drained away quite quickly. You *cannot* cast anymore spells (your spell gems are grayed out) until you either cancel this spell or it wears off. Also note that mana regen is impossible while this spell is on. I don't care if you have clarity and a the bard mana song, it isn't gonna happen.

The use for this spell is when you are almost out of mana (you are almost out of mana, so who cares if it drains you empty). You will be amazed at how good of a melee tank a shaman can be with this on. It basically turns a shaman into a berzerking warrior.
NO REPOP, By Gmork (1/28/2001)

your spell slots do not repop to even attempt casting another spell. You just get that "you have not yet revovered"
SOMEONES CONFUSED, By Budaddar (1/28/2001)

This spell drains your mana hoss. Using a mana stone in conjunction with this spell would be useless. The drain this spell has on your mana is obscene and using a mana stone is of no help against the effects of this spell.
DRAGONS, By Dragonman goku (1/28/2001)

wouldn't this be good to stay in there for no absolute reason when taking nagafen Jojo?

[skorge]

Found this tidbit:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010503005153/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spelldescriptions.asp?Id=1183

yeah ive looked more myself, the link you posted is from 05/2001 and it says december, as in 12/2000 im assuming? I guess since the comments are bugged (showing the same date/time) we don't really know when they posted them...the Shamans Cruicible info I linked was from 03/2001

I clearly remember camping the Frenzy Impaler with my level 50 shaman in Kedge Keep and having Rage up...and slowing him and casting dots, etc...so it didnt drain my mana, but im not sure if I did that during kunark or velious

[tristantio]

Release dates for expansions:

The Ruins of Kunark (April 2000)
The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)
The Planes of Power (October 2002)

Given that the spell info for Rage was from the wayback archive dated 05/03/2001 and it references the spell having been changed in December, I would guess it coincides with Velious release.

[Daldaen]

October, 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010611200927/http://eqshaman.com/)

Rage

Abj

45

+{57 Str, 16 AC, +20 Regeneration}, -Mana Regeneration

HOG

[quido]

sounds to me like they have it right

[skorge]

October, 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010611200927/http://eqshaman.com/)

problem is a lot of these sites just stopped updating info and some have bad info...Shaman's Crucible was one of the more popular one's...hell one site I found had shamans getting a DS at level 49 (called Wall of Fire or something)...the first link I provided was from 03/01 and it matches the info from 05/01 above (same exact stats) and says the comment where it was changed in December, my only conclusion is it was changed at Velious release...if I wouldn't have quit EQ to play Dark Age of Camelot my memory would be more certain on when I was using it without it draining mana...

[brecon]

bump - fury line changes need to be made, as of today it still drained mana every tick

[Fenna]

bump - fury line changes need to be made, as of today it still drained mana every tick

I am wondering, is this still a bug or a feature?

I am fairly level appropriate gear and the mana drain on this is intense...

[skorge]

bump...has this been changed on Project 1999 yet? I will test my shaman later today to find out.

I once again pulled up the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010305225507/http://www.eqforge.com/shaman/spells/level_49.htm

This is taken from March of 2001.

The more I remember now I am pretty sure this was the way the rage line was in classic as well, and was not changed.

Devs, can we please get an update, as this was a POWERFUL solo buff, and may not be implemented on P99 right.

Thank you!

Brief update: I remember using this on my shaman in Kedge keep farming the spear that drops at entrance, so this had to be before Velious, and epics...why would i need to farm it? I clearly remember using that spell to farm there and take hits...the Fierce Impaler mob when I was level 50.

[skorge]

After also reading this: http://web.archive.org/web/20010503005153/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spelldescriptions.asp?Id=1183

I am under the impression it was changed in December of 1999 to a no mana drain/regen buff, and not December of 2000...the description does not have the year on it, but that would explain me using it in Kedge Keep pre-Kunark...

If you read the comments I believe they are bugged to show the same date: 01/28/01 for some reason...they talk about manastone and stuff, so I believe these comments are from pre-kunark even tho the date on them all seems otherwise.

[skorge]

bump, just tested in-game and Rage STILL drains mana, lol....any eta on fix, guys?

Side note: the higher level version of the spell does not drain mana on p99.