Scaling Bonus OFF

[SamwiseRed]

EDIT: Scaling XP bonus actually on. Tested with Iksar SKs. It is just not noticable past 30ish because at that point its only .5% more. Word.


Or maybe I am bad at maths. I am getting 10% per decaying skeleton kill at level 1 on RED. I am getting 8% on blue. Same mob, class, race, zone. Wouldn't I be getting 16% if scaling bonus was on since it would be double xp at level 1?

Screenshots will follow in a few minutes. I just conducted this test.

The Test Subjects
http://i.imgur.com/JGkrzIG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wAEco5k.jpg

The results:
http://i.imgur.com/XUwpeg3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MKLVUZQ.jpg

[Youlath]

Experience is capped regardless at a maximum of 11% per kill.

[Kergan]

Experience is capped regardless at a maximum of 11% per kill.

This.

Make an iksar SK to penalize it enough you can see the difference. Or just see the post Tecmos made proving the bonus.

[Twainz]

None classic UI. Where is Chewie when you need em?

[BigHurb]

i go to church every sunday and ur gonna bring out the devil in me!

[SamwiseRed]

my bad ill try iksar sk

[SamwiseRed]

needed % for xp, looks like there is a bonus ill post ss in a sec

[Jib]

he's testing stuff tho, thats a good thing im glad he's bein scientific about it with % etc

o man how fast were PLs before that 11% per kill cap AMIRITE sum1 out there knows what im talkin bout im sure
that patch shoulda came with a wi-- nvm u already know

i could swarm pl a char from level 1 to 13 with a single pull on a 50 druid.

after the nerf i could do 1 to 3 on a single pull

[SamwiseRed]

iksar sks were made.

they each killed 1 decaying skeleton and 2 scaled pups. all mobs white con ofc at level 1.

Blue SK
http://i.imgur.com/5Wg3fuU.jpg

Red SK
http://i.imgur.com/FBHgl2U.jpg

dunno I guess it on but I wouldn't call it noticable. The reason I brought it up is because it seems like I was getting the same xp on my blue alts as my red alts except I was leveling faster on blue because of the constant groupage.

[filthyphil]

lol

[BigHurb]

give thos nips a twist

[mrproudbeard]

Given that the last 2 or 3 patches have messed up XP (accidental extra bonuses) are you really shocked it's not working the way the staff claims it works?

[Telron]

I think further testing must take place. Grind to 60 on each side and tell me your results. No grouping allowed.

[SamwiseRed]

i will grind to 60 with the iksar sks, killing the same mob in the same zones at the same time. ill get back to you in about 4 years.

[Clark]

i will grind to 60 with the iksar sks, killing the same mob in the same zones at the same time. ill get back to you in about 4 years.

lol

[Telron]

i will grind to 60 with the iksar sks, killing the same mob in the same zones at the same time. ill get back to you in about 4 years.

Love it. HAHA.

[Smedy]

im on the chewie train, xp needs to be slower, also you should loose half your level on pvp death between levels 1-55 just to make it harder to get 60, this would ultimately make the server thrive

[raptorak]

I'm giving the server a break until something is said about the exp. To be honest I don't think it is right that we have a bunch of 60s with their ALTs that all benefitted from double exp in the earlier days of the server whilst new players have to struggle through the levels in empty zones dodging twinked out ALTs camping zone lines.

Bring back the exp and you bring back the new players to some extent,but it should be done mainly for balance reasons because there are too many players sitting pretty at the top. Might also want to delete funghi and t staff for similar reasons.

[Colgate]

how about we also implement exp loss on pvp death again but only for the people who are below level 60? seems fair to me

[Smedy]

agree with everything colgate just said, lets do this

[Aenor]

I don't think it is right that we have a bunch of 60s with their ALTs that all benefitted from double exp in the earlier days of the server whilst new players have to struggle through the levels in empty zones dodging twinked out ALTs camping zone lines.

Red99 is being phased out if you hadn't noticed.

[raptorak]

Red99 is being phased out if you hadn't noticed.

I had thought they were aiming to keep it going and were working on it, at least that is the impression the GMs and devs have given me. It's just taking a good while to get things going but I have to say the nerf to exp was a bad idea considering they haven't come up with the so called "big things" that were hinted at for some while now.

[Youlath]

EXP bonus?

http://i.imgur.com/bEl716v.png (http://imgur.com/bEl716v)

not even necessary

[Smedy]

ya you're not being powerleveled at all heh

[Origin]

EXP bonus?

http://i.imgur.com/bEl716v.png (http://imgur.com/bEl716v)

not even necessary

Huehuehue

[JPMorgan]

EXP bonus?

http://i.imgur.com/bEl716v.png (http://imgur.com/bEl716v)

not even necessary

That ac.

[Aenor]

It has come to my attention, due to the efforts of noble Samwise, that there is still an XP bonus on Red relative to blue:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146671

Firstly, this is unfair to the blue players who work hard for their pixels. Secondly, since the goal is to drive players off Red pre-Velious in preparation for phasing out the server ahead of teams launch, I say, why half ass it? If you're going to nerf XP, finish the fucking job. We don't need these neckbeards grinding for Velious against all odds.

[Tecmos Deception]

dunno I guess it on but I wouldn't call it noticable. The reason I brought it up is because it seems like I was getting the same xp on my blue alts as my red alts except I was leveling faster on blue because of the constant groupage.


I just tested with blue troll SK and red troll SK. Blue killed 3 level 1 mobs in innothule and saw xp move up to 4%, then 9%, then 14%. Red killed 3 level 1 mobs in innothule and saw xp move up to 9%, then 18%, then 27-28%.

So my first thought is "lol iksar ZEMs are fucking terrible."

My second thought is that you must have been doing something wrong. I see you say that the mobs were all level 1s, but were you in the same zone? Were you in the same general area of the same zone? I guess it could potentially be some issue with ZEMs not being the same on blue as they are on red?

[Galacticus]

EXP bonus?

http://i.imgur.com/bEl716v.png (http://imgur.com/bEl716v)

not even necessary

ROFL!!!

Could be 55 if the exp bonus was still in!

Have fun when you hit 52!

[SamwiseRed]

I just tested with blue troll SK and red troll SK. Blue killed 3 level 1 mobs in innothule and saw xp move up to 4%, then 9%, then 14%. Red killed 3 level 1 mobs in innothule and saw xp move up to 9%, then 18%, then 27-28%.

So my first thought is "lol iksar ZEMs are fucking terrible."

My second thought is that you must have been doing something wrong. I see you say that the mobs were all level 1s, but were you in the same zone? Were you in the same general area of the same zone? I guess it could potentially be some issue with ZEMs not being the same on blue as they are on red?

Ya its in. I did same mobs, same con, same zone ect. The thread title was supposed to end in a question mark. I still argue it's easier and faster to level on blue excluding Power leveling and solo classez.

[SamwiseRed]

I think the scaling bonus kinda sucks. If we can't add group xp bonus then a 2x bonus across the board would be better

[LulzSect]

http://i.imgur.com/p7j0l6A.jpg

[Sigleaf]

Samwise needs to lay off the lembas

[Nirgon]

My first thought is

where's the fucking classic ui

[Gaffin 7.0]

less xp is never gonna make the pop go up, look at it since the nerf, half the pop for weeks. yeah i dont even care to log in atm

[LulzSect]

http://www.sarcasticmyspace.com/graphics/blakkfrogg/comments130/pics_pee-wee-wigga-please.jpg

[Azure]

dunno I guess it on but I wouldn't call it noticable. The reason I brought it up is because it seems like I was getting the same xp on my blue alts as my red alts except I was leveling faster on blue because of the constant groupage.

[SamwiseRed]

My first thought is

where's the fucking classic ui

i switch between velious UI and this oen to see xp as a %.

edit: actually i was using duxa for a bit when i played my bard. made for switching instruments ezpz.

[Flowz]

While we are at it lets reset every one level 58 - 60 back to level 1 so they can redo the grind to make the server thrive again

[baalzy]

Wait... so there is a bonus on red again now (even if its not as big as before?)

[SamwiseRed]

yes there is a bonus. i guess you just dont notice it past 30 because its scaling. I think at 30 its something like 150% so 3 kills of the same mobs would equate to 2 on blue.

[baalzy]

While we are at it lets reset every one level 58 - 60 back to level 1 so they can redo the grind to make the server thrive again

I personally think it would be fun to regrind 1-60 but wearing full VP/Sky/Planar gear. Only as a melee though.

[Tecmos Deception]

I still argue it's easier and faster to level on blue excluding Power leveling and solo classez.

I agree. Gear easier to come by, buffs from friendly high-level characters (not even PL, just friendly drive-by buffs and shit) more common, ports easier to find, rezzes easier to find, group MUCH easier to find, no XP time ever "lost" because of "PVP", etc.

Tecmos on blue was level 50 in the same /played it took Tecmos on red to reach 44. Both had some PL pre-20, both had similar twinking from low levels... but presumably I am better at playing an enchanter on p99 18 months later + red has some kind of scaling bonus. But I'm still way slower on red.

[Koota]

but presumably I am better at playing an enchanter on p99 18 months later + red has some kind of scaling bonus. But I'm still way slower on red.

Didn't you read the reasoning of the xp cut though? It's about 'the journey'.