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nilzark
04-04-2014, 09:35 AM
Ok, before I decide to roll an SK on this red server, what are the chances of getting my ass kicked a lot?

Tassador
04-04-2014, 09:44 AM
SK is a solid choice. Against evenly geared players you should be a monster at the lower levels.

quido
04-04-2014, 09:48 AM
Aside from Harm Touch and the epic, I think SKs are pretty bad overall.

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 09:52 AM
Sk's seem like the shit in 1v1 pvp.

nilzark
04-04-2014, 09:53 AM
Ok, Nilzark has camped on Blue and arisen on Red ... albeit a new race. Let gnoll fang quest begin!

vouss
04-04-2014, 09:56 AM
Sk best pvp class in Game for sure

nilzark
04-04-2014, 10:02 AM
Just wondering ... is it bad form to kill people in lowbie areas?

Tassador
04-04-2014, 10:20 AM
I would pvp as much as you can. You will not find to much of it otherwise.

nilzark
04-04-2014, 10:22 AM
Ok sounds good. BTW Ding lvl 2.

quido
04-04-2014, 10:28 AM
Any pure melee that has the MR to not get snared is going to own an SK 1v1, unless they get unlucky or suck.

nilzark
04-04-2014, 10:30 AM
I thought MR was broken.

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 10:34 AM
Explain how monk, warrior, rogue beats sk. After sk hts half their life away and then both players are jousting?

SamwiseRed
04-04-2014, 10:36 AM
Sk's seem like the shit in 1v1 pvp.

actually id say the opposite. probably the most op class 1v1.

Sektor
04-04-2014, 10:38 AM
Aside from Harm Touch and the epic, I think SKs are pretty bad overall.

ogre sk with epic would rape a Tstaff monk. troll prob rape them harder

Kergan
04-04-2014, 10:40 AM
SKs are a good pvp class for sure. They have a lot of utility (invs, invs undead, FD, etc). Like any melee class they are somewhat gear dependent though so you may struggle a bit until you can afford a decent weapon. Plus <50 PVP on this server is kind of tough, lots of twinked out characters.

Lots of people willing to give you the gear hookup though to get you to a decent gear level.

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 10:42 AM
actually id say the opposite. probably the most op class 1v1.

I think you failed to understand my use of the term "the shit"

I meant the best

SamwiseRed
04-04-2014, 10:43 AM
my bad.

quido
04-04-2014, 10:44 AM
I've never lost a fair 1v1 to an SK.

And I'm pretty sure I could beat most in an unfair fight such as them being buffed.

quido
04-04-2014, 10:46 AM
And I'm not even that good.

nilzark
04-04-2014, 10:46 AM
Lots of people willing to give you the gear hookup though to get you to a decent gear level.

In N Qyenos now, ready for the gear hook up.

Kergan
04-04-2014, 10:49 AM
In N Qyenos now, ready for the gear hook up.

Probably the worst place to be, tbo. Head to Erudin bank probably someone in Nihilum who can give you a few things. :)

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 10:50 AM
Pretty sure I have died to every class 1v1. Have 70mr? I might as well gate

vouss
04-04-2014, 10:50 AM
monks are tough, so are warriors, but the fight can be in the SK's favor depending on where it's located. Utility like CoS and FD can turn the side of a fight :)

Rogues just get crushed 1v1 against SK's, trade swings of 40 for 400

Sektor
04-04-2014, 10:53 AM
I've never lost a fair 1v1 to an SK.

And I'm pretty sure I could beat most in an unfair fight such as them being buffed.

When I get 60 and my epic will duel. Monks high regen and with a Tstaff you don't need to be a good jouster because of how fast the staff is with epic. Corner casting my disease dot + keeping you away from sticking on me and stay aggressive and its over

vouss
04-04-2014, 10:55 AM
yeah just wait till you try and corner cast asystole take 6 seconds of rounds, get interupted, attempt again only for it to get resistsed :) Then one more time and it lands, only to be cured in one (not two) click

Sektor
04-04-2014, 10:59 AM
yeah just wait till you try and corner cast asystole take 6 seconds of rounds, get interupted, attempt again only for it to get resistsed :) Then one more time and it lands, only to be cured in one (not two) click

monks don't have channeling. Only give us a chance to get in 1 - 2 free jousts

quido
04-04-2014, 11:00 AM
Iksar regen is sweet, but what really wins that fight for a monk is two things: weapon skill and damage mitigation.

T-staff proc is just a bonus - I could easily kill Mirkuls with an IFS.

vouss
04-04-2014, 11:03 AM
well aware monks don't have channeling but it's pretty easy to get a single 2 second cast off specially if you are jousting + 1-2 hits not worth how many he will get on you! Not to say the spell is bad, just corner casting it against a monk just aint gona cut it. Gota use that lev advantage

Kergan
04-04-2014, 11:07 AM
I just have a hard time believing in an even fight (gear, levels, skill, etc) that an SK would lose to any pure melee. But I don't play either on this server in the 2 year long Kunark era with non classic resists either so I'll defer to the experts. All I know is when I played Gabuk on RZ I dispatched any other class 1 on 1 with zero difficulty in most cases. I also played an iksar SK named Ketov on SZ with similar results.

Sektor
04-04-2014, 11:09 AM
the mechanics here are different from classic Eq.

Kergan
04-04-2014, 11:11 AM
Yeah for sure. Plus super high efficiency monk weapons like TStaff/RFS/IFS/Peacebringer are really easy to get, but 2HS for SK you're pretty much stuck with VP drops or epic.

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 11:16 AM
Yeah for sure. Plus super high efficiency monk weapons like TStaff/RFS/IFS/Peacebringer are really easy to get, but 2HS for SK you're pretty much stuck with VP drops or epic.

Weighted axe so easy to find

Holey
04-04-2014, 11:19 AM
Explain how monk, warrior, rogue beats sk. After sk hts half their life away and then both players are jousting?

1hand people stick on sks i dont know why they would jouste a sk LOL

Sektor
04-04-2014, 11:25 AM
1hand people stick on sks i dont know why they would jouste a sk LOL

joust backstab only.

Supaskillz
04-04-2014, 11:27 AM
1hand people stick on sks i dont know why they would jouste a sk LOL

I am a pvp noob. Explain. Why not joust with epic, rom, weighted axe or something along those lines. Why use noct blade or other 1h? I guess wurmslayer is solid.

Certainly seems wrong to me to stand next to a monk and just trade blows.

LulzSect
04-04-2014, 11:31 AM
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Holey
04-04-2014, 11:46 AM
FOH FTW i miss my chewie LOL

Holey
04-04-2014, 11:52 AM
Hiiiii

HI PAL. I MISS YOU.

Galacticus
04-04-2014, 01:28 PM
Until velious evens out hybrid skills with the rest of melee, if you can't snare a melee as an sk generally you won't cast on them.

Whenever you cast, you can't joust. Generally any spell you cast against a melee isn't going to be worth trading a round of dmg for and possibly getting interrupted for it. Unless you are snaring the melee, then you can cast your life taps and dots for free. Realistically, you aren't landing snares on most people above 55 who are geared with resists.

Sks are great from level 10-45ish. They suck from 45ish until whenever they get a good weapon since their dps doesn't go up like other classes.

That is why Chewie never levels up.

Most people that fight an SK will fight you as though they have only 4 bubbles of life, because they know once they get down to a certain point you can possibly harm touch kill them.

Most people will plug or gate before you can finish them off and sometimes if you ht them right away or mid fight they just decide not to fight you because they are at a disadvantage. They can escape, regen and reingage before your ht comes back up off cool down.

You can try to stun people with a sheild and bash or slam and then try to get off a quick spell but mostly your only casting when you first get in range of your target or they are out of melee range running from you or trying to kite you. Most melee will not kite you and not let you cast efficiently.

But it is extremely fun in the rare case you HT destroy someone with low life that you hate. It's like he rare rogue double back stab on a sitting caster, it feels great.

When velious hits and you get velious gear and spells, then you can mitigate hits better while casting and spells will be worth casting. You will also miss less and put out more dps.

LulzSect
04-04-2014, 01:57 PM
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Galacticus
04-04-2014, 02:39 PM
what level you think i am?

Last I saw you in game you were in your 40s. I haven't seen you anywhere since then in any 50+ zones which I spend more time in.

What level are you now?

mtb tripper
04-04-2014, 02:46 PM
lol

Twainz
04-04-2014, 03:00 PM
what level you think i am?

59

LulzSect
04-04-2014, 03:44 PM
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Potus
04-04-2014, 04:34 PM
I'd play a melee but I play first person and suck at jousting.

Galacticus
04-04-2014, 04:37 PM
69!
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