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Houndstooth316
03-31-2014, 02:31 AM
ESPECIALLY IN places like city of mist. do you know how hard it is to find a tank replacement in City of Mist in the middle of no where, in god damn emerald jungle?? at 2am??

i mean im not just referring to right now. i usually do tell the group to give a 20-30min headsup if anyone has to leave to find a replacement, but sometimes you just figure everyone knows this standard procedure.

almost everyday in 40+ groups i see this not taking place.

anyone else get annoyed with people leaving on a dime especially if theyre an important part of the group?

Sarajo
03-31-2014, 02:37 AM
Nah, RL is more important.
Sometimes.

Also this is probably why I only PUG as a support class; I'm such a flake and hate standing still when the group is boring. If im grouped with friends, and the only healer/tank, well then they're used to being ditched by me so there's no misunderstandings.

Wokchop
03-31-2014, 02:48 AM
Nah, RL is more important.

/thread

Pyrion
03-31-2014, 03:10 AM
Proven fact: Thread starter has no live.

P.S.: I generally agree that 30 min warning should be done, if possible. But if the baby cries...

khandman
03-31-2014, 03:12 AM
I'd imagine at 2am in the morning (depending on everyone's timezone) you'd be lucky to get any warning at all if someone is starting to fall asleep for example. They aren't going to stick around for 30 minutes.

On the other hand this type of thing doesn't really both me as I don't set up groups for specific locations or camps, dungeons etc. I just show up, if I can get a group cool, if I don't then on to the next adventure :D

Valere
03-31-2014, 03:25 AM
Hey now, our fatty tank had been there a long ass time and there was pretty much no chance of finding a replacement at 2am. Can't fault him for not wanting to wait around when he's tired, especially when the only people left in group were new and not the people he had been chillin with for hours.

Salute to you fat tank bro, you may have left the group on short notice but you didn't leave our hearts.

Galacticus
03-31-2014, 03:32 AM
Go solo and complain less. If you can't then be thankful for people helping you level.

holsteinrx7
03-31-2014, 04:12 AM
so this is why houndstooth is always so bitter in game. more reasons to move to red for both of us, houndstooth.

HawkMasterson1999
03-31-2014, 04:13 AM
This is the EQ equivalent of peeing your pants. We are grown folks and should realize that we are starting to get tired.

Cecily
03-31-2014, 06:07 AM
do you know how hard it is to find a tank replacement in City of Mist in the middle of no where, in god damn emerald jungle?? at 2am??

Go to sleep.

jaybone
03-31-2014, 06:11 AM
Proven fact: Thread starter has no live.

P.S.: I generally agree that 30 min warning should be done, if possible. But if the baby cries...

Billo
03-31-2014, 07:02 AM
Sorry OP we dont all live in our mothers basement playing EQ until 2am

Seriously? lawl

Kimja
03-31-2014, 07:06 AM
Yeah 15 years ago I could give 30 mins warning and not miss a beat. Now between kids, wife, and just being older, sometimes a brotha can't hang! It's a social game, send some tells! Have fun!

Whirled
03-31-2014, 08:20 AM
http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_to_train_the_compassionate_brain
FWIW; I met a young doctor once & he told me this^

tristantio
03-31-2014, 10:07 AM
HANG ON CRYING BABY, I'LL COME GET YOU IN 30 MINUTES WHEN I FIND THE REPLACEMENT IN MY INTERNET GAME!

Daldaen
03-31-2014, 10:12 AM
Any class at any point in the game can tank. Just about readjusting kill speed depending on class. Hell, as a Druid I tanked crypt and emperor, still keeping down all PHers and trash before respawns, for several cycles til I passed out.

Perhaps you should invite more classes like rangers to your groups, so that when a tank leaves the ranger can tank (and hold aggro better than most any tank) and not miss a beat in that group's grind.

Champion_Standing
03-31-2014, 10:36 AM
Sad attempt to recreate the "gotta go after this pull" thread.

1/10

lecompte
03-31-2014, 10:49 AM
Sad attempt to recreate the "gotta go after this pull" thread.

1/10

But... Seriously. Fill the group with DPS next time. If shit dies fast enough don't need a tank.

Halius
03-31-2014, 11:13 AM
Granted I am only level 18 but even now about 95% of the time I don't search for groups. With 3 kids, the majority of the time I am playing in between the kids naps and when everyone is asleep at night, so I don't want to be THAT guy when I have to leave suddenly.

Ugrask
03-31-2014, 11:47 AM
This isn't a bunch of kids and thousands of people per server like 15 years ago with lists for camps. We all have shit going on and at 2am, he wasn't going to find a replacement anyway.

OP Needs a life. Plus I have never seen this issue, I usually get the people who join up, clear to a camp then say they gotta go soon(like Kaesora)

Robben
03-31-2014, 11:55 AM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.


If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


It's understandable that sometimes people have to log off immediately, but try to at least notify your group before you depart.


Saying he has "no life" because he expects the tank to give a heads up :rolleyes:

drktmplr12
03-31-2014, 11:59 AM
Granted I am only level 18 but even now about 95% of the time I don't search for groups. With 3 kids, the majority of the time I am playing in between naps and when everyone is asleep so I don't want to be THAT guy when I have to leave suddenly.

you dont have to worry about being 'that guy'. you just don't want to be OP. if people want to be pissy over this, then who cares if they won't invite you to their group?

honestly, many times ive grouped up with people and had to go suddenly for whatever reason. 99% of people were understanding and respectful. The 1% can continue to fuck themselves in their basement.

Orruar
03-31-2014, 12:00 PM
Who needs a tank for CoM? Did you have a ranger, a monk, a bard, a person with snare, or a person with root? Sounds like all you really did was lose one xp sponge. Congrats.

drktmplr12
03-31-2014, 12:03 PM
If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


which reinforces that OP is being unreasonable. whether he is playing an elf simulator or building a pergola in the garage is irrelevant.

Ugrask
03-31-2014, 12:08 PM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.


If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


It's understandable that sometimes people have to log off immediately, but try to at least notify your group before you depart.


Saying he has "no life" because he expects the tank to give a heads up :rolleyes:

Oh so if you have a child you're never allowed to do anything else? Are you some kind of fucking retard?

The main point that people used with a child is it was a sleep and woke up crying...aka needing tending.

drktmplr12
03-31-2014, 12:13 PM
Who needs a tank for CoM? Did you have a ranger, a monk, a bard, a person with snare, or a person with root? Sounds like all you really did was lose one xp sponge. Congrats.

agree with xp sponges. i have had far better experiences with 3 to 4 person groups in CoM.

most players seem to think that you need a tank for a group. I disagree...you really don't. almost everyone has abilities to supplement a tank...especially in CoM where NOTHING casts spells. look at post #3 (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137465&highlight=druid+tank+sebilis+crypt) by Daldaen, which is a perfect example of someone using more than one spell bar depending on what the group needs.. instead of sitting there being an xp sponge.

Reguiy
03-31-2014, 02:39 PM
I agree. I hate it when someone leaves my group at 2am without giving 30 minutes notice. Then I have to spend another 45 minutes finding someone only to grind out another mere 4 hours of xp. It's just a waste of time.

Kekephee
03-31-2014, 02:45 PM
Oh so if you have a child you're never allowed to do anything else? Are you some kind of fucking retard?

The main point that people used with a child is it was a sleep and woke up crying...aka needing tending.

To be fair, our society really has not accepted that when you have a kid your life is fucking over and it has caused a lot of problems, but computer games are one area where people don't even realize they're being affected. Everybody focuses on people bringing kids into movie theaters and restaurants, but LEAVING EXP GROUPS is one that hits much closer to home for me due to I never leave the house to go to movie theaters and restaurants

Halius
03-31-2014, 03:02 PM
I'm sensing some sarcasm brewing here.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u231/853phile/Se/chuck-norris-approved.gif (http://s169.photobucket.com/user/853phile/media/Se/chuck-norris-approved.gif.html)

myriverse
03-31-2014, 03:23 PM
[Mon Mar 31 09:15:10 2014] You have joined the group.
[Mon Mar 31 09:15:11 2014] You tell the group, "Thx for invite."
[Mon Mar 31 09:15:11 2014] You tell the group, "30 minute warning!"

Tethyr
03-31-2014, 03:52 PM
I don't really give a shit if people leave groups on short notice: rl is important, elfsim is not. The only thing that is pretty fuckin lame that I've seen a few times is people joining groups, ninja'ing as much shit as possible and then peacing after 30 mins (obviously this is way more common in the lower levels, 1-20ish).

tristantio
03-31-2014, 03:54 PM
Ninjaing what? Vendor trash?

Ugrask
03-31-2014, 03:54 PM
I don't really give a shit if people leave groups on short notice: rl is important, elfsim is not. The only thing that is pretty fuckin lame that I've seen a few times is people joining groups, ninja'ing as much shit as possible and then peacing after 30 mins (obviously this is way more common in the lower levels, 1-20ish).

Had a monk do this in my 30's, would not STFU about needing money to buy a MQ Epic piece, looted everything he could then peaced out.

Should also mention he couldn't pull for shit.

Bill Tetley
03-31-2014, 03:55 PM
ill give warning but im not gonna hunt down a replacement that doesn't have a lfg tag up. if you want to keep playing that bad then do it yourself. deal with it

Hollywood
03-31-2014, 04:10 PM
We had this conversation ( one of many times?) just recently.
Sometimes things happen - like people literally fall asleep, or have a sudden on rush of nausea and need to leave.

I do agree though, common courtesy goes a long ways. If you want to leave, simply say that you want to leave and thank you for the group. People may not like it, but more often than not they'll respect that you were verbal about your departure and not hold it against you.

The fact that we can't figure this out in a video game, makes me question how the world even turns...

Had a monk do this in my 30's, would not STFU about needing money to buy a MQ Epic piece, looted everything he could then peaced out.

Should also mention he couldn't pull for shit.

Enchanter>Monk proven better pullers :)

Houndstooth316
03-31-2014, 04:37 PM
Cant believe some of you in this thread. How hard is it to think "hmm im gettin bored maybe ill log soon, hey eveyone ill take off on 15mins or so. You all act like rverytime you leave a group because a babies crying? Give me a break. Of course all of us have to leave at an instant at times, but like a wiser poster aleady said this is the equivalent of peeing your pants.

I did not know about the other thread,

myriverse
03-31-2014, 05:08 PM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.

If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...
Don't believe the propaganda. Parenting is not really a 24/7 kind of thing, unless your kid has a serious illness or something.

drktmplr12
03-31-2014, 05:09 PM
wiser poster

that's just like, your opinion, man.

ranting in server chat about a 'tank' leaving a com group at 2am on a sunday is the equivalent of peeing your pants.

and

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCpCCb86c4aWFpd2ONrZ_aEhQOEA9k-Xx7bJ7hM_78ia9tKxKZ

Vosooth316
03-31-2014, 05:11 PM
Not talking about this tank. He was a fine tank and i was there briefly before he left . Im just using this is an example

jaybone
03-31-2014, 06:36 PM
Cant believe some of you in this thread. How hard is it to think "hmm im gettin bored maybe ill log soon, hey eveyone ill take off on 15mins or so. You all act like rverytime you leave a group because a babies crying? Give me a break. Of course all of us have to leave at an instant at times, but like a wiser poster aleady said this is the equivalent of peeing your pants.

I did not know about the other thread,

You will fit in TMO nicely.

Tomeofdiscord
03-31-2014, 06:43 PM
I've personally never been bothered by this sort of thing,but I can understand how it could annoy some people. I have had instances where mid pull a healer would just dip set without any warning. Now this is a rare case but VERY upsetting.

Swish
04-01-2014, 06:17 AM
The problem is as peak turns into off-peak and people go to bed... what chance does a replacement tank have of getting 2+ hours XP in?

Seen it happen in KC a bunch of times, people log, you get replacements, then more people wanna log, and the newcomers get about 10 minutes before it disbands.

innocent51
04-01-2014, 07:05 AM
So 5 pages to say : Its nicer to be nice, sometimes nice people would like to be nice but they happen not to be for some reason. Also some people aren't nice, and that's not very nice.

Right?

Yonkec
04-01-2014, 11:11 AM
So 5 pages to say : Its nicer to be nice, sometimes nice people would like to be nice but they happen not to be for some reason. Also some people aren't nice, and that's not very nice.

Right?

OP was just sadface that other people operate on schedules that are not conducive to min/max their rate of pixel return. We aren't pissing in each others cereal, we are playing a fucking video game.

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/09/step_back_and_deal_with_it-244.gif

If you hate the fact that people have lives, which sometimes require them to cease pixel gathering, take a deep breath, log in your epic+fungi shaman alt and go steal a camp from a more appropriately leveled group in CoM like everyone else.

Fuck.

Champion_Standing
04-01-2014, 12:48 PM
The problem is as peak turns into off-peak and people go to bed... what chance does a replacement tank have of getting 2+ hours XP in?

Seen it happen in KC a bunch of times, people log, you get replacements, then more people wanna log, and the newcomers get about 10 minutes before it disbands.

Pretty much this

It's 11pm on a week night, when 1 person leaves expect the group to collapse. Roll a solo class, go forumquesting or find another game to play if it upsets you so much. Trying to fill spots at these times usually leads to exactly what you are describing or an awkward trio left standing that can't get anyone to join.

A lot of times people are in the group at these points because they feel obligated to stay if they are an essential class, when one person leaves it sets off a chain reaction.

Ravager
04-01-2014, 01:27 PM
Does CoM even need a tank?

drktmplr12
04-01-2014, 02:07 PM
Does CoM even need a tank?

no.

Hollywood
04-01-2014, 02:12 PM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.


If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


It's understandable that sometimes people have to log off immediately, but try to at least notify your group before you depart.


Saying he has "no life" because he expects the tank to give a heads up :rolleyes:

Careful Robben, logic, common sense and courtesy are not allowed here.

Azure
04-01-2014, 02:13 PM
If a group has been going on for hours and hours and it's late and people are tired. I'm not scared to be the first one to say "i'm out."

lecompte
04-01-2014, 02:15 PM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.


If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


It's understandable that sometimes people have to log off immediately, but try to at least notify your group before you depart.


Saying he has "no life" because he expects the tank to give a heads up :rolleyes:

I don't think the problem is common courtesy but instead a matter of a 30 minute notice that earns the outrage of repliers.

Khaleesi
04-01-2014, 02:19 PM
If a group has been going on for hours and hours and it's late and people are tired. I'm not scared to be the first one to say "i'm out."

And yet for the hour or two before that point ( a position you are well accustomed to ), you didn't think to yourself once 'I'm about done playing.' ? No yawns, big stretches, nodding off, feeling flat? You just go through life suddenly feeling something and then DOING it right then and there?




There's so much deflecting in this thread by people just to cover up the fact that they are either inconsiderate or unaware of what's going on around them.

For people who claim to be adults and therefore have 'lives,' you sure don't act like it - and not because you disagree with Houndstooth, but because you act like children while doing it .

Rararboker
04-01-2014, 03:07 PM
All I hear is "Oh no, people don't agree with me, that means they are acting like children!"


You should have been glad you had a tank on a sunday at that hour. And like many other people have said, a druid could tank in CoM. The real answer to this thread is:

L2EQ.

Yonkec
04-01-2014, 04:36 PM
And yet for the hour or two before that point ( a position you are well accustomed to ), you didn't think to yourself once 'I'm about done playing.' ? No yawns, big stretches, nodding off, feeling flat? You just go through life suddenly feeling something and then DOING it right then and there?




There's so much deflecting in this thread by people just to cover up the fact that they are either inconsiderate or unaware of what's going on around them.

For people who claim to be adults and therefore have 'lives,' you sure don't act like it - and not because you disagree with Houndstooth, but because you act like children while doing it .

There are always two sides to this clusterfuck. Anyone who /q's because a group had an unfortunate wipe, or because they feel xpgain isn't quite "good enough for them" because the group isn't full of raid twinked alts can go fuck themselves. You know who you are.

The rest of us are something resembling adults and are responsible only for ourselves. If you get your feathers ruffled because someone dips early and doesn't feed you a replacement, you need to evaluate your level of personal attachment to this game. It is too high. Pretty much anything in life outside of...no, pretty much anything in life is and will always be higher priority than this game.

If you enjoy the game and value your time spent in it, that is great and I am happy for you, as our lord and savior Kanye West one said. But dont you ever sit there and lecture someone else on how your pixels are more important than the taco bell flavored shit they need to take while grouped with you. OP and others need to get over yourselves and take responsibility for YOUR OWN SHIT.

If your butthole gets puckered over unannounced departures then solo or run a waiting list for spots and feed the top of the list into the group. Oh, but nobody wants on your waiting list? Then why the fuck are we having this discussion in the first place?

Rist
04-01-2014, 05:16 PM
Ridiculous notion.

I will, most of the time, give a heads up that I am leaving but I am not going to hold someone's hand finding someone else to play with.
As long as it isn't a time consuming camp, those aren't really done by a pug anyway, who cares if someone just splits. Life happens.

daasgoot
04-01-2014, 05:46 PM
yeeeaaahhhh.. If I feel like turning off my game, I'm going to turn off my game. Not sit for 30 minutes looking for someone for you to play your game with.

Silly goose.

Khaleesi
04-01-2014, 05:54 PM
There are always two sides to this clusterfuck. Anyone who /q's because a group had an unfortunate wipe, or because they feel xpgain isn't quite "good enough for them" because the group isn't full of raid twinked alts can go fuck themselves. You know who you are.

The rest of us are something resembling adults and are responsible only for ourselves. If you get your feathers ruffled because someone dips early and doesn't feed you a replacement, you need to evaluate your level of personal attachment to this game. It is too high. Pretty much anything in life outside of...no, pretty much anything in life is and will always be higher priority than this game.

If you enjoy the game and value your time spent in it, that is great and I am happy for you, as our lord and savior Kanye West one said. But dont you ever sit there and lecture someone else on how your pixels are more important than the taco bell flavored shit they need to take while grouped with you. OP and others need to get over yourselves and take responsibility for YOUR OWN SHIT.

If your butthole gets puckered over unannounced departures then solo or run a waiting list for spots and feed the top of the list into the group. Oh, but nobody wants on your waiting list? Then why the fuck are we having this discussion in the first place?



There's so much deflecting in this thread by people just to cover up the fact that they are either inconsiderate or unaware of what's going on around them.

For people who claim to be adults and therefore have 'lives,' you sure don't act like it - and not because you disagree with Houndstooth, but because you act like children while doing it .


...so in short, people don't like to be called out on their bullshit.

Azure
04-01-2014, 06:40 PM
It's pretty simple. It's a courtesy to have a warning. No one is entitled to replacement finding though. If someone has benifited your group for 6 hrs. Chill the f'ck out and /friend them. They will probably do it again later even if they couldn't manage a '/g god, fuckin tired, g'night, good run' /q

Vetiver
04-02-2014, 01:20 AM
I didn't know 'ALWAYS' was a constituent for pick-up-groups. Even at the pinnacle of prudence - whether there's a premonition of thunder-pot-beckoning, crying children, or narcolepsy, I believe some understanding should be present for any departure. It is conceivable that most players enjoy their game-play, and to enforce a universal time-stamp for dashing is laughable and just plain goofy.

Tankdan
04-02-2014, 02:35 AM
lol I made a similar thread, and it went just like this.. a bunch of neckbeards attacking OP for asking for decency. This forum is worse than WoWs.

Houndstooth316
04-02-2014, 04:05 AM
Uh i have monk, ranger, rogue, shaman tanks all the time. People so silly. Its not a 30min extra time you have to stay when you log, its im getting bored not gonna be on longer, heres ten minutes...

Houndstooth316
04-02-2014, 04:07 AM
Guess what. Youre in a group in kaesora and stay for a half hour and ninja leave, sometimes this makes you a dick. Its your privilege to join my perfect chain pullin groups with amazing ZEM an hour away from other players. Give us a lil warning

Houndstooth316
04-02-2014, 04:23 AM
But today i left my dungeon group without any wArning. So...maybe im being a bit insensitive

innocent51
04-02-2014, 06:48 AM
I'm surprised at how many people took offense to the OP.


If I had crying children to tend to, the last thing I would be doing is playing an EverQuest emulator. I would be busy raising my children...


I also agree that parents shouldn't be allowed to play video games. It goes that same for students and working people. They should have something else to do.
All these people just artificially raises the population of the server ruining the experience for us unemployed annuitants. We could talk about letting prisoners and crippled with pension in but the rest should clearly be banned.

Robben
04-02-2014, 08:22 AM
I also agree that parents shouldn't be allowed to play video games. It goes that same for students and working people. They should have something else to do.
All these people just artificially raises the population of the server ruining the experience for us unemployed annuitants. We could talk about letting prisoners and crippled with pension in but the rest should clearly be banned.

:rolleyes:

If you have a newborn/toddler, EQ isn't a very forgiving game. Don't join a fast-paced group if you have to constantly check on your little ones.


I'm not saying you have no right to play, but way too many times have I encountered people that complain about having to take care of a crying child because it inconveniences their elf simulator time...

Could you imagine being raised by someone like that? I'd hope I came before an EQ emulator in my parent's priorities.

Azure
04-02-2014, 09:58 AM
lol I made a similar thread, and it went just like this.. a bunch of neckbeards attacking OP for asking for decency. This forum is worse than WoWs.

It's the way in which they asked. I did not read OP but I can only assume it's not in the 1st person and very offensive/inflamatory/accusatory.

myriverse
04-02-2014, 10:00 AM
Crying is cool. It just means they're breathing.

Quineloe
04-02-2014, 11:12 AM
3 or 4 days ago in EC

Houndstooth shouts for a port to DL. I tell him I can take him, he replies ok. We stand next to each other for a minute at tunnel entrance. I ask him if he still needs the port, he says he "might need a port to CT". I agree again. He walks in a circle, twice, then camps out.

Common courtesy, something to expect, but never to give.

Quineloe
04-02-2014, 11:28 AM
:rolleyes:

If you have a newborn/toddler, EQ isn't a very forgiving game. Don't join a fast-paced group if you have to constantly check on your little ones.


I'm not saying you have no right to play, but way too many times have I encountered people that complain about having to take care of a crying child because it inconveniences their elf simulator time...

Could you imagine being raised by someone like that? I'd hope I came before an EQ emulator in my parent's priorities.

People are raised by parents that hire a stranger to look after them while they're not even at home. Someone watching them during their sleep while sitting on the other side of the room playing a game sounds like a pretty good deal compared to that.

Did you raise any children yet?

Kekephee
04-02-2014, 11:41 AM
I also agree that parents shouldn't be allowed to play video games. It goes that same for students and working people. They should have something else to do.
All these people just artificially raises the population of the server ruining the experience for us unemployed annuitants. We could talk about letting prisoners and crippled with pension in but the rest should clearly be banned.

Prisoners should be high priority players, they're locked in a cage 24 hours a day and that makes them ideal for farming Jboots and VP key pieces


"Hey guys, Trakanon is going to spawn sometime in the next two days, I need you to be ready to pull him as soon as he pops. That is, if you have nothing better to do?" "PLEASE HELP US THE CORRECTIONAL SYSTEM IS LUDICROUS, ALL IT DOES IS BREED VIOLENCE AND MENTAL ILLNESS" "ok sweet give a shout in guild chat when he's up"

Kekephee
04-02-2014, 11:43 AM
New conspiracy theory: TMO all inmates in a white-collar crime facility

Sub-conspiracy: Mass RMT allegations prove true; state-sponsored EQ in correctional facilities for purposes of complex system of fundraising for federal government

Hollywood
04-02-2014, 02:13 PM
:rolleyes:

If you have a newborn/toddler, EQ isn't a very forgiving game. Don't join a fast-paced group if you have to constantly check on your little ones.


I'm not saying you have no right to play, but way too many times have I encountered people that complain about having to take care of a crying child because it inconveniences their elf simulator time...

Could you imagine being raised by someone like that? I'd hope I came before an EQ emulator in my parent's priorities.

Careful there, you may offend another one of people's sensitivities because they feel guilty.

Totally agree though.

Having said that, I play with a cleric who takes care of her child and groups simultaneously - while not neglecting it! The difference between her and most of the people in this thread, is that she still manages to be courteous about the fact that HER life is affecting the level of consistency and attention she can have towards the game - rather than having the attitude that other people in the game are affecting her real life. Despite everything she puts up with, she'll communicate always. And in turn, we always happily let her go about handling things when she needs to, without question.

And that's the crux here. Apparently some people are too good to communicate - I guess it's beneath them!

Yonkec
04-02-2014, 06:03 PM
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/B-f-a-home/Homestuck/iwillnotstandforthis.gif

lecompte
04-02-2014, 06:06 PM
Having said that, I play with a cleric who takes care of her child and groups simultaneously - while not neglecting it!

Clerics... Second only to wizard in the AFKability.

Marglar
04-02-2014, 07:27 PM
I had a Wizard friend on TZ that would join exp groups, participate for the first 15 minutes.. then just go take a nap. He'd get full levels before anyone realized it and called him out and booted him / killed him. he was a douche.. ha.

I think the common consensus is that any decent human being will try to provide a warning/find a replacement when they're leaving, but you can't expect that to always pan out. life happens. some things are more important. you will never get perfect transitions. try to build your groups to accommodate the loss of vital roles.. or go do something else when it happens.

Glenzig
04-02-2014, 10:02 PM
[QUOTE=Hollywood;1395927]

she still manages to be courteous about the fact that HER life is affecting the level of consistency and attention she can have towards the game - rather than having the attitude that other people in the game are affecting her real life. [QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't think that people are missing the fact that real life can affect yourself and others in game at times. I'm pretty sure what they are saying is that it doesn't ultimately matter because this is only a game. It isn't THAT important. Its fun. But it isn't more important than rl stuff. Any rl stuff.

Vetiver
04-03-2014, 12:12 AM
[QUOTE=Hollywood;1395927]

she still manages to be courteous about the fact that HER life is affecting the level of consistency and attention she can have towards the game - rather than having the attitude that other people in the game are affecting her real life. [QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't think that people are missing the fact that real life can affect yourself and others in game at times. I'm pretty sure what they are saying is that it doesn't ultimately matter because this is only a game. It isn't THAT important. Its fun. But it isn't more important than rl stuff. Any rl stuff.

Except when poopsocking.

Khaleesi
04-03-2014, 02:12 PM
Clerics... Second only to wizard in the AFKability.

Wow, total jab at Alarti!



Yeah, I don't think that people are missing the fact that real life can affect yourself and others in game at times. I'm pretty sure what they are saying is that it doesn't ultimately matter because this is only a game. It isn't THAT important. Its fun. But it isn't more important than rl stuff. Any rl stuff.

That's the thing, they DO seem to be missing the fact, and then go on to say that because real life is more important that it's a license to be a complete ahole and exhibit no accountability for their actions.

Otur
04-03-2014, 02:27 PM
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1310566945001.jpg
OP, srsly?

Lagaidh
04-03-2014, 04:34 PM
:rolleyes:

If you have a newborn/toddler, EQ isn't a very forgiving game. Don't join a fast-paced group if you have to constantly check on your little ones.


I'm not saying you have no right to play, but way too many times have I encountered people that complain about having to take care of a crying child because it inconveniences their elf simulator time...

Could you imagine being raised by someone like that? I'd hope I came before an EQ emulator in my parent's priorities.

I shit you not the following happened in live:

I was in a group of regulars that I'd made good friends with (we still are) and we had another guild member with us. Let's call her "Mama" *snerk*

We were doing an XP group in the Tower of Frozen Shadow. Mama was a shaman and usually a sponge. Not because she was tending to her kids mind you. She would sponge XP because she never, ever stopped gabbing away in /gu and /g about all kinds of things nobody cared about. Mama tells the group that one of her kids comes running up to her RL chair, kid holding her arm and crying. Mama tells the group not to worry.

Mama proceeded to soak up another 2 hours of XP. When she finally left she told the group that the kid had broken her arm.

We STILL wonder how that kid turned out... It was creepy. Wondered if it was real or just attention whoring. Either way. Yeesh.

Ganjar
04-03-2014, 07:16 PM
Hell no , im a tank! What are they gonna do?? Not invite me back when they need a tank lol pftttt.....

radditsu
04-03-2014, 08:16 PM
1 star

Smalls
04-03-2014, 10:08 PM
I can see why some people might forget to do so or simply not have the patience to wait, but in general, I agree. Since I am going to be tanking eventually I would feel bad if I deprived my group of a cornerstone class without notice (a tank, a healer, or a good CC in some cases), and I suspect they would consider it extremely rude as well.

Glenzig
04-03-2014, 10:13 PM
I shit you not the following happened in live:

I was in a group of regulars that I'd made good friends with (we still are) and we had another guild member with us. Let's call her "Mama" *snerk*

We were doing an XP group in the Tower of Frozen Shadow. Mama was a shaman and usually a sponge. Not because she was tending to her kids mind you. She would sponge XP because she never, ever stopped gabbing away in /gu and /g about all kinds of things nobody cared about. Mama tells the group that one of her kids comes running up to her RL chair, kid holding her arm and crying. Mama tells the group not to worry.

Mama proceeded to soak up another 2 hours of XP. When she finally left she told the group that the kid had broken her arm.

We STILL wonder how that kid turned out... It was creepy. Wondered if it was real or just attention whoring. Either way. Yeesh.
See. Now THAT is a decent human being. She had the courtesy to stay with the group despite dumb things like kids and broken limbs. She knew that she may just inconvenience someone else on an elf simulator game. The kid is fine. Trust me. He was probably like "I'll be fine mom. Just make sure that they have a replacement for you before you leave. Hospital? No. I don't need healing nearly as much as your tank. Pop your torpor and get him some hp's back. I'll deal for the next couple hours."
Hats off to you mama.

Hollywood
04-04-2014, 01:52 PM
See. Now THAT is a decent human being. She had the courtesy to stay with the group despite dumb things like kids and broken limbs. She knew that she may just inconvenience someone else on an elf simulator game. The kid is fine. Trust me. He was probably like "I'll be fine mom. Just make sure that they have a replacement for you before you leave. Hospital? No. I don't need healing nearly as much as your tank. Pop your torpor and get him some hp's back. I'll deal for the next couple hours."
Hats off to you mama.

We were raiding once and a male guild member said that he may have to leave because the wife MIGHT be going in to labor. He said 'afk brb' Few minutes later he returns and says, "it's ok, the contractions are ten minutes apart, we still have time, game on."

Kefo
04-05-2014, 12:11 AM
We were raiding once and a male guild member said that he may have to leave because the wife MIGHT be going in to labor. He said 'afk brb' Few minutes later he returns and says, "it's ok, the contractions are ten minutes apart, we still have time, game on."

10 minutes apart? They still had a good 6-16 hours before anything would remotely happen.

Smalls
04-05-2014, 04:10 AM
10 minutes apart? They still had a good 6-16 hours before anything would remotely happen.

Because pixels are more important than bringing a child into the world.

Vetiver
04-05-2014, 05:25 AM
Because pixels are more important than bringing an Orc into the world.

Smalls
04-05-2014, 05:28 AM
Congratulations, it's a gnome.

Kefo
04-05-2014, 05:53 AM
Because pixels are more important than bringing a child into the world.

RL is more important but contractions 10 min apart means you do nothing. Hospitals won't even admit you until they are coming 3-5 min apart which like I said can take up to 16 hours.

Skitzoh
04-05-2014, 10:28 PM
ATLEAST 30 Minutes? I'll play until I'm content and then log out... Lol