why did red rawn end

[Vosooth316]

why did RD quit? i cant figure out why? that sucks for the server

[Squire]

short answer?

exp nerf.

[Zoolander]

they will be back with blue server xfers!

[Kazi]

And yes, we get that people are quitting.We don't care.

[Akuma]

Because Red is a complete fail now.

[Humerox]

Not really. RD has been choosing sides. Pretty good split. Will be interesting to see how this rides out.

[BigHurb]

Heartbrand was a false prophet all along :)

[Fame]

It's only been like 2 days nigs, he'll rise tomorrow

[BigHurb]

dick wont rise tho

[thugcruncher]

short answer?

exp nerf.

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[Drakaris]

Several factors. The main factor was the constant destabilization of Red Dawn's core, with Azrael infiltrating the guild early on and later ripping the guts out of the guild when they split, leaving warm bodies and loyal core. Red EXP bonus was removed roughly at the same time (coincidence?).

The sad thing about RD is that HB tried to get the guild up on its feet and sought assistance from Nihilum after Azrael ripped his guilds guts out.

Nihilum threw them a few bones, but it was at the expense of guild morale, as many of the PvPers wanted RD to earn their items.

On the other side of the fence Azrael was doing the usual 'crush Nihilum scum and all their allies' routine and griefed the fuck out of RD.

HB was now bleeding members to Azrael and the new players were quitting the game on a daily basis, meaning there was no new members coming in. This was the final few days of RD.

A guild that chooses to train VP with rez boxes instead of improve their own members is not healthy for the server. What confuses me though, is they have a history of warping past mobs in VP but don't get punished, but we get raid suspended in VP because we strategically positioned our raid force to a location using gflux in which we couldn't get trained. It was considered exploiting, yet it provided a clear disadvantage due to getting AoEd several times before the mob got into camp due to non existent Z-Axis on spell effects.

Oh well, server just had its guts ripped out with RD disbanding. The majority of Nihilum core has been dropping off playing other games, we are down to a skeleton crew of vets with the majority of our player base being apps and non vets.

Congrats Azrael, enjoy your server.

[iiNGloriouS]

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[Tassador]

Thank you for all the one liners and quick comments.

[Bodage]

Looks like so most of the officers can join Nihilum after latest exp nerf crippled the server. They all dedicated an enormous amount of time and energy helping newbies that eventually leave or quit. I think the latest decisions regarding the server has broken their spirit along with almost all of our members. Who can blame them? Thanks HB and crew for the good times.

Bodage

[Dacuk]

staff decisions killed it. too many people gave up the grind after the xp nerf. thanks HB for your efforts, was fun.

Drakar - you seem mad.

[Azure]

red dawn was destined to fail from the start

[Rellapse36]

red dawn was destined to fail from the start

the leader was a moran

[Telron]

the leader was a moran

Hb did more for this server than almost at anyone. He's a damn saint

[HippoNipple]

RD thriving as much as ever. Last night Thresh and I raided LGuk and fought Chewie for 2 minutes. No YT, pras red99.

[Squire]

too many people gave up the grind after the xp nerf. thanks HB for your efforts, was fun.

2/14

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2w2eypu.jpg

Never forget.

[Sektor]

HB didn't rage quit, just ashame he's forced to join Nilly because he believes Azrael will disband sooner or later. This isn't a knock to HB because I would take him over Noah/Tunak anyday but I'm curious to see how Noah and Tunak act when Heartbrand does join Nilly, because he's def getting in.

[Kergan]

I dunno, we may have to speed up the timeline on the duke's resurrection for this decision.

You staying FA or going Az?

[Rellapse36]

HB didn't rage quit, just ashame he's forced to join Nilly because he believes Azrael will disband sooner or later. This isn't a knock to HB because I would take him over Noah/Tunak anyday but I'm curious to see how Noah and Tunak act when Heartbrand does join Nilly, because he's def getting in.

would be 100% shocked if they allow heartbrand to join i remember nizzar personally saying he would never let him back in

[Sektor]

I dunno, we may have to speed up the timeline on the duke's resurrection for this decision.

You staying FA or going Az?

Az, was in Nilly well before you came to the server, don't wanna be guilded with players like Rallyd,William,Ender,Puddems,Taiypoo/glyph,vaporize, nizzar, qazzaz aka grave robber. The list goes on, to many bad apples in the guild.

[Sektor]

would be 100% shocked if they allow heartbrand to join i remember nizzar personally saying he would never let him back in

Nizzar takes anyone back, even took hb back. He took Saidin back. He recruited Agatha, Tunak etc etc. He doesn't care, and if they are ever in desperate need of members, they'd take me back too.

[HippoNipple]

With Nizzar gone, HB is taking over leadership of Nihilum.

[iiNGloriouS]

http://i.imgur.com/yAymcBN.gif

[LulzSect]

Az, was in Nilly well before you came to the server, don't wanna be guilded with players like Rallyd,William,Ender,Puddems,Taiypoo/glyph,vaporize, nizzar, qazzaz aka grave robber. The list goes on, to many bad apples in the guild.

[freez]

With Nizzar gone, HB is taking over leadership of Nihilum.

rofl

[Eslade]

the real reason rd feel apart? we ran out of cookies.

[Twainz]

Az, was in Nilly well before you came to the server, don't wanna be guilded with players like Rallyd,William,Ender,Puddems,Taiypoo/glyph,vaporize, nizzar, qazzaz aka grave robber. The list goes on, to many bad apples in the guild.

No Twinkie mentioned? #winning

[freez]

go loot ur corpse its rotting in tt from losing pvp

[Sektor]

No Twinkie mentioned? #winning


Naw you don't bother me. Even if you tried getting me banned.

[freez]

nobody ever said u were toxic



phat phaggut

[Azure]

makes me sad 2 see thresh punk has guise - and epics already - RMT - GM korruption

The guy was p-bad at level 30 as a gnome and then rerolled and was p-bad again (got worse somehow as an ogre)

I think becoming a pixel/stat enraged moron really did him in as a good player.

[freez]

makes me sad 2 see thresh punk has guise - and epics already - RMT - GM korruption

The guy was p-bad at level 30 as a gnome and then rerolled and was p-bad again (got worse somehow as an ogre)

I think becoming a pixel/stat enraged moron really did him in as a good player.

thresh gud peoples

fuck off tranny

[Squire]

lold

[HippoNipple]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/thresh_zps62247d7e.jpg
thresh died a betrayer's death, maybe your YT is goin in the wrong chat window

Lol that wasn't during my 10 minutes of Everquest last night. Congrats on PvP.

Have to admit though, playing Chewie on his home turf is tough. Running after him through zone as a melee when he can FD is a death sentence.

[Something'Witty]

Congrats Azrael, enjoy your server.

Being #1 on red99 is like being king of a garbage dump
http://31.media.tumblr.com/244a6351e2bb019edbee6a0b064c10df/tumblr_n1crc2p5ju1rsl308o1_500.gif

[Rellapse36]

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Garbage-Pail-Kids-Book-Bonus-Sticker-1-Hole-in-Juan.jpg

[Not_Kazowi]

Haven't seen garbage pail kids in forever. My brother had like all of them

[lite]

Red Dawn ended because they tried to take short cuts. There is nothing wrong with not contesting, 95% of what builds a guild and prepares it for the future is the challenges that you have to overcome in order to be able to contest. The route taken led to no sense of unity, and very little opportunity for the guild to feel a sense of achievement. For fucks sake members were messaging me actively trying to sabotage their guild all day. Multiple messages about their raids .... Whenever u guys would try and finish Vanco's epic in Chardok, people would let me know so i'd come crash it.

Exp nerf hurt for sure, but that's nothing you can't overcome when you have comradeship.

What next?

Checkraise gets back into nilly, they take anyone back. Noah and max will kick and scream, but will stay.

Nilly starts mass recruiting

Azrael continues to grow and prep for velious

tons of PVP to come. Only the commited will remain on red, if you quit over an exp bonus you weren't gonna make it here.

[HippoNipple]

Red Dawn ended because they tried to take short cuts. There is nothing wrong with not contesting, 95% of what builds a guild and prepares it for the future is the challenges that you have to overcome in order to be able to contest. The route taken led to no sense of unity, and very little opportunity for the guild to feel a sense of achievement. For fucks sake members were messaging me actively trying to sabotage their guild all day. Multiple messages about their raids .... Whenever u guys would try and finish Vanco's epic in Chardok, people would let me know so i'd come crash it.

Exp nerf hurt for sure, but that's nothing you can't overcome when you have comradeship.

What next?

Checkraise gets back into nilly, they take anyone back. Noah and max will kick and scream, but will stay.

Nilly starts mass recruiting

Azrael continues to grow and prep for velious

tons of PVP to come. Only the commited will remain on red, if you quit over an exp bonus you weren't gonna make it here.

oh

[Not_Kazowi]

Just a game pals. Elf sim clan didn't work out, oh well. See you in thurgaydin

[Something'Witty]

Whenever u guys would try and finish Vanco's epic in Chardok, people would let me know so i'd come crash it.

Question to the players of red99: Is the above example PvP or griefing?

I mean, an argument could be made that Nilly is so strong, that the only way to compete with them is to resort to unorthodox, yet allowed, PvP strats (e.g., training in VP). But repeatedly "crash'n" RD's chardok royals raids doesn't seem like a David and Goliath situation where such tactics are required...

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[Buhbuh]

Prophetic words from Lite. None of us liked each other in Red Dawn. No camaraderie. We wouldn't even suck each other's dicks on a regular basis.

[Sektor]

luv u Cyren pls come over here.

[Keke]

makes me sad 2 see thresh punk has guise - and epics already - RMT - GM korruption

The guy was p-bad at level 30 as a gnome and then rerolled and was p-bad again (got worse somehow as an ogre)

I think becoming a pixel/stat enraged moron really did him in as a good player.

Thresh received guise for winning PVP event. I guess p-bad people do that often. Thresh never even played a char on live. First eq experience on vztz box.

in other news, troll fails at trolling.

[Rellapse36]

Thresh one of the coolest people on the box. Runlvlzero would not know this b/c he is 2 busy trying to chop off his penis to become one ugly ass wanna be woman.

[Not_Kazowi]

I tried to be nice and let him get the scale before me. Wish I had just bidded on it, now oh well

[Sektor]

I tried to be nice and let him get the scale before me. Wish I had just bidded on it, now oh well

enjoy nilly. Should of kept you away from them red officers. You'll be bored just like the first time.

They still haven't give max a cobalt bp yet lol.

[Exed]

Rexx good peeps. See ya on the battlefield of love pal

[Kergan]

Cobalt BP needs to drop to get awarded. Saw Max get some legs though!

[Colgate]

Cobalt BP needs to drop to get awarded. Saw Max get some legs though!

maybe you should try winning fights for trakanon?

[Kergan]

Will do!

[Rellapse36]

maybe you should try winning fights for trakanon?

yikes

[Drakaris]

yikes

When Azrael (the resistance???) has more level 60 pvp ready members online than the so-called Zerg Nihilum, you know people don't care about p99 (red) anymore.

[Rellapse36]

shut up Drakaris you get dumber by the day

[Drakaris]

shut up Drakaris you get dumber by the day

not really I just state the facts.

Trakanon fight between Nihilum / Azrael - 30 + azrael to 22 Nihilum.

Nihilum members consisted of roughly 6 Officers/veterans, 8 full members and 8 apps. At least 6-8 of which were not even level 60 and only 6-8 members had VP gear.

Azrael had all level 60 characters (except for north LOL).

I don't know what else to say, people don't care about contesting anymore... I think heaps of people have just given up and moved on...

[Colgate]

okay elderan

[Sektor]

drakar good at pretending like nilly is dying. When they all come back they will have 70+.

[Rellapse36]

I don't know what else to say, people don't care about contesting anymore... I think heaps of people have just given up and moved on...

makes tons of sense a guild kills 99% of all mobs for like 4 years and everyone decides to quit just as a new expansion is about to get released

naw u *****s just got whooped when you could not hold down all the spawns at 6am anymore

[Drakaris]

drakar good at pretending like nilly is dying. When they all come back they will have 70+.

I'm not denying that bro, when Velious comes out, Nihilum will again roflstomp Azrael... but right now no one really cares... We would have CRed after losing PvP and fought Azrael again while they were doing Trak, but no one really cares anymore... Don't know what else to say?

[Colgate]

no one cares, yet they either log in every single day or they ragequit after losing

k

[Drakaris]

no one cares, yet they either log in every single day or they ragequit after losing

k

Colgate, does 22 where 1/3 are recruits sound like the numbers for a guild that cares about contesting Trakanon?

[HippoNipple]

6 am, 3 hour weekly roundup of all pixels ended

RMT ended

Nizzar quit

Nihilum quit

[Colgate]

Colgate, does 22 where 1/3 are recruits sound like the numbers for a guild that cares about contesting Trakanon?

it sounds like the numbers for a guild who can't contest because most of their core members got mad over losing

[Twainz]

6 am, 3 hour weekly roundup of all pixels ended

RMT ended

Nizzar quit

Nihilum quit

Dragons haven't spawned at 6am for months. You guys always worried about the past? You're life must really suck dwelling on shit from 7th grade.

[Rellapse36]

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[SamwiseRed]

i always pictured being the number 1 on red as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owYk4TOddYY

[HippoNipple]

Dragons haven't spawned at 6am for months. You guys always worried about the past? You're life must really suck dwelling on shit from 7th grade.

It was a timeline of current events. Empires don't crumble over night.

[lite]

funny how a week ago we had a 35v35 probably the fairest fight that could have ever occured, and after that ass whooping "we just don't care"

[Kergan]

Who is saying we don't care? You guys got stomped in TD 25v25, shit happens.

[BigHurb]

fairly obvious the RMT was keeping things going ... sad but true, you assholes fucked ur own buttholes

[Meow]

Lol i heard alot of bans happened because of RMT.
First thread i open, alot of nihi saying they dont care.
And lite? wtf lol. Are you constantly using google translate to write posts or something?

Let me get my water fowl in a linear fashion, then i might come back.
naaaa prob not.

HB RiP.
HB>Lite

[Fame]

And lite? wtf lol. Are you constantly using google translate to write posts or something?


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[Genedin]

Nizzar takes anyone back, even took hb back. He took Saidin back. He recruited Agatha, Tunak etc etc. He doesn't care, and if they are ever in desperate need of members, they'd take me back too.

Too true.

[Rellapse36]

HB>Lite



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[Genedin]

okay elderan

Feel like this the truth. Man did magically vanish from most dedicated forum quester.

[Fame]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1375809750_black-man-smoking-crack2.jpg

oh fuck thats goog very goog lol

[Telron]

Only the commited will remain on red, if you quit over an exp bonus you weren't gonna make it here.

Best comment in thread.

[mtb tripper]

Best comment in thread.

[Rystar]

maybe you should try winning fights for trakanon?

I have been on this server for 4 months now and I think you guys have got trakanon like 4 times. A mob that spawns every 3 days and you have only got it 4 times(hell make it 6 just in case I missed a couple).

Not sure if srs~

[HippoNipple]

Best comment in thread.

Nah, need more warm bodies to /autoattack in my opinion, free level 60's to /autoattack dragons.

[Fael]

A guild that chooses to train VP with rez boxes instead of improve their own members is not healthy for the server.

You people are so dumb. You grief new level 10 players with geared out low lvl alts, but complain when actual pvp occurs at your own level. And then you claim it for "the health" of a 100-man server.

There's plenty of ways to deal with VP trains you bluebie noobs, let alone when pvp is enabled.


Dolic

[Swish]

Nah, need more warm bodies to /autoattack in my opinion, free level 60's to /autoattack dragons.

Look at RD's k/d ratio as a guild. Now the casuals (myself included) are playing less, there's less yellow text and fewer "targets".

Spent the last couple of nights peddling some JC'd wares...no interest in XP'ing/grouping til something gets put in. Why take something out without putting something in to replace it at the same time?

[Azure]

whats the point of playing if there is no one to pvp/play against?

only way to fix that is wipe, +/-4 level range, and item loot IMO. would bring 600 players back to the box.

Either that or blue transfers for those people who won't/don't play/pvp until they are powerd to 60

[LulzSect]

http://i.imgur.com/EHjRq7k.jpg

[Azure]

lulz u wanna play 2gether, I got another level 3 alt sitting around lookin for a pal

[LulzSect]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee63/amary2525/i-need-friends.jpg

pic related

its u

[HippoNipple]

Look at RD's k/d ratio as a guild. Now the casuals (myself included) are playing less, there's less yellow text and fewer "targets".

Spent the last couple of nights peddling some JC'd wares...no interest in XP'ing/grouping til something gets put in. Why take something out without putting something in to replace it at the same time?

Enchanter huh? You can group with me if you want. I will be afk but can pay you per exp gain and provide the illusion that you are not alone.

[Squire]

Enchanter huh? You can group with me if you want. I will be afk but can pay you per exp gain and provide the illusion that you are not alone.

See? The staffs plan of community building worked!

[HippoNipple]

See? The staffs plan of community building worked!

I may also be able to work in a macro to sporadically make a comment from small list asking how group members are doing and create some perceived interest in their lives.

[Squire]

I may also be able to work in a macro to sporadically make a comment from small list asking how group members are doing and create some perceived interest in their lives.

/G MANA?

every 10 minutes

/g rdy?

every 15

/g brb piss

every 20

done. immersed.