View Full Version : How reliable is wiki auction tracker
stewe
03-26-2014, 12:54 PM
I was just wondering how reliable the tracker on that site is, i was looking stuff up yesterday and i noticed the prices on that site were no where near the prices people were wanting for the same item in EC. Can people make alts and turn on their logs and put up fake auction prices then send those logs to wiki to raise prices for stuff they farm and lower prices for items they want to buy is my real question. Is the wiki prices reliable and do logs get put into the tracker even if the item doesnt sell for that price?
Cecily
03-26-2014, 01:27 PM
More reliable than TMO guild chat price checks.
Seeing as most people don't list prices for popular items in /auction use it as a starting point.
If you are WTB, sellers see that as weakness and will not give you a price, they will ask how much you are willing to pay and unless it is more than market value they will reject it without saying how much they want.
Thulack
03-26-2014, 02:16 PM
Also look at the dates for the prices and names. Sometimes its the same person selling something over a 3 day spawn and its listed 10 times. Also some prices are old as dirt. Your best bet is to do PC in EC tunnel or just sit there and see the prices. If 10 people are selling something for 5k and wiki says 3k well the item is probably 5k. Personally anytime someone tell me "well the wiki says....." my response is "well have the wiki sell it to you then :)"
phacemeltar
03-26-2014, 02:18 PM
prices seem to fluctuate, based on what i am not sure.
lecompte
03-26-2014, 02:19 PM
I use the prices on the wiki as an END point because it is based on people /auctioning things... If I'm buying something, I usually get an average of what is on the list in recent history and pull back 2-5%. For example:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sash_of_the_dragonborn
I was auctioning sash of the dragonborn for 16k. I think I only got 12.7 for it.
Thulack
03-26-2014, 02:43 PM
I use the prices on the wiki as an END point because it is based on people /auctioning things... If I'm buying something, I usually get an average of what is on the list in recent history and pull back 2-5%. For example:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sash_of_the_dragonborn
I was auctioning sash of the dragonborn for 16k. I think I only got 12.7 for it.
This^. Ive probably sold 30% of my goods for what i actually list them at. Everyone likes to talk you down alittle here and there.
myriverse
03-26-2014, 03:27 PM
There's also Ahungry:
http://ahungry.com/eqauctions/
Lyrith
03-26-2014, 03:29 PM
I was just wondering how reliable the tracker on that site is, i was looking stuff up yesterday and i noticed the prices on that site were no where near the prices people were wanting for the same item in EC. Can people make alts and turn on their logs and put up fake auction prices then send those logs to wiki to raise prices for stuff they farm and lower prices for items they want to buy is my real question. Is the wiki prices reliable and do logs get put into the tracker even if the item doesnt sell for that price?
Use it to double check to make sure you aren't getting ripped off. But at the end of the day, sale for what you want and buy for what you want. The item is only as valuable as you make it.
Jaylafein
03-29-2014, 08:51 PM
Everything is worth what the purchaser will pay...
Swish
03-29-2014, 08:53 PM
Some of the wiki prices are from 2012 etc, don't use it as a guide especially at the moment - prices generally dropping.
tristantio
03-30-2014, 12:05 AM
I always use the wiki or my site (Ahungry) to get a baseline on an item - seems reliable enough in 99% of the cases.
Cecily
03-30-2014, 12:34 AM
I always use the wiki or my site (Ahungry) to get a baseline on an item - seems reliable enough in 99% of the cases.
Your site has always been my favorite resource to find items and prices. Thank you for it. And it's been awhile! Hi Xenow :)
Byrjun
03-30-2014, 12:48 AM
Don't buy from those "make an offer" assholes. If someone is selling an item, he should know what he wants to get from it. If you don't agree to his price then you can counteroffer.
Any seller who tells you to make an offer already knows what he wants to sell it for. He's checking to see if you offer above what he has in mind, and if you offer lower than what he has in mind he'll just tell you that's not good enough. Don't feed into that bullshit.
Rhambuk
03-30-2014, 03:16 AM
Don't buy from those "make an offer" assholes. if you offer lower than what he has in mind he'll just tell you that's not good enough. .
Usually they won't respond with anything when you offer and its not enough, people hate to negotiate here its a real pain.
Clark
03-30-2014, 04:24 AM
prices seem to fluctuate, based on what i am not sure.
:D
Meiva
03-30-2014, 02:57 PM
Usually they won't respond with anything when you offer and its not enough, people hate to negotiate here its a real pain.
Right. I tend to take my time when shopping. Your items is totally worth 3k to me, but I'm going to offer you 2.5k. If the response is "no" I'm not going to bother. Your response is 2.9k, I'll counter 2.8k. People can be pissy some time, but I'm simply negotiating. I understand some won't negotiate reasonably I.e. a few ECQuesters, but that's just the game they play.
Baler
03-30-2014, 03:00 PM
Is there anything in place to prevent a group of people from manipulating the prices listed on the wiki for auctions? Why don't people just sell items to friends at crazy high prices and trade back afterwards. Then sell the same items to non friends at crazy high prices?
Edit: excluding non friends with common sense.
dethbringre
03-30-2014, 03:07 PM
Usually they won't respond with anything when you offer and its not enough, people hate to negotiate here its a real pain.
Because people are afraid of confrontation these days days, it flows over from real life into EQ box.
tristantio
03-30-2014, 09:49 PM
I hate when I offer on an item and get no response at all - you'd think at least a "no thanks" could be sent.
I do occasionally say, "Whatever you think is fair" for any item under 500pp or so, and I'll almost always accept the offer - I've sold 300pp robes for 50pp before, on the other hand, I once had someone give me about double the average price for something in that way as well.
If its an expensive thing I'm selling, I just tell them what I'm looking for if I didn't list in /auc.
TWDL_Prexus
03-30-2014, 10:02 PM
Because people are afraid of confrontation these days days, it flows over from real life into EQ box.
I never understood this. I have gotten and given some great deals. All people have to do is ask, "no" is the worst they can say. Who cares, move on to the next person.
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