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Monks were by far the most OP class during the Velious expansion on live.
Will this be the case on P99 or are there differentiating factors that will make things different here?
I am stuck between making an SK or a Monk for my main and only toon i will play.
I lean towards the more powerful class.
drktmplr12
03-25-2014, 02:43 PM
Lron you will always talk about playing but never actually play.
SKs and Monks are both very powerful, i think moreso the monk esp since they can get close to rogue dps with triple attack. SKs are great and all, but they just can't put out the damage like a monk. They got better with AAs, but we know that isn't happening here.
rollin5k
03-25-2014, 02:46 PM
How could anyone know if there are differentiating factors its not even done yet, deep thoughts tho
??? Velious Is in beta....how is my question out of the scope of being reasonable?
I also dont play here yet so I dont know if there are any skills/abilities unique to P99 that someone could shed some light on that would help answer my question.
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Alarti0001
03-25-2014, 02:54 PM
Lron you will always talk about playing but never actually play.
SKs and Monks are both very powerful, i think moreso the monk esp since they can get close to rogue dps with triple attack. SKs are great and all, but they just can't put out the damage like a monk. They got better with AAs, but we know that isn't happening here.
Top geared monks > top geared rogues for dps in Velious. At least they were... wonder how it will play out here.
drktmplr12
03-25-2014, 02:58 PM
Top geared monks > top geared rogues for dps in Velious. At least they were... wonder how it will play out here.
am i mistaken in stating that rogues really get no upgrade to ragebringer? i recall this being the case for some reason.
edit: upgrade for main hand i mean.
Well geared Monks could solo better than any class during velious...thats how OP they were.
I doubt it will be that extreme here but who knows.
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03-25-2014, 03:03 PM
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Enxienty
03-25-2014, 03:04 PM
Yeah but this is monks decked out in ToV gear and what not , which is going to be very competitive loot since a lot of it is all/all
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03-25-2014, 03:06 PM
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drktmplr12
03-25-2014, 03:07 PM
Yeah but this is monks decked out in ToV gear and what not , which is going to be very competitive loot since a lot of it is all/all
agree. lets not forget about primal weapons! drool
Chronoburn
03-25-2014, 04:38 PM
am i mistaken in stating that rogues really get no upgrade to ragebringer? i recall this being the case for some reason.
edit: upgrade for main hand i mean.
BIS Rogue mainhand: http://wiki.project1999.com/Mrylokar%60s_Dagger_of_Vengeance
+ Primal spear in offhand = good deeps
Supaskillz
03-25-2014, 04:45 PM
Any fraps showing monks out dps'n me is all lies. Lies! Next you will tell me they get sneak too
Chronoburn
03-25-2014, 04:48 PM
I don't recall if monks actually out DPS'd rogues back when but they had to be close with the weapons available to them...
Gharn's Rock of Smashing + Primal Velium Fist Wraps
or
Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment
Raavak
03-25-2014, 04:56 PM
Monks are pretty decent tanks in Velious too. I remember hearing of monks tanking NToV...
Rogues getting out DPS'd by monks is nothing new on P99. Early Kunark IBs monks routinely out DPS'd the rogues. The 2HB dmg bonus adjustment changed that a bit, but even now I don't think I'd have to go too far back to find a parse with Perun or Hoku on top. DPS isn't what makes monks OP in velious. Whether or not monks will be the gods they were on live will depend a lot on how defensive skills and AC are calculated. Monks avoidance and mitigation made them great in velious, but being able to break 1400 AC made them ridiculous.
But yea, not sure why you guys are comparing class DPS, because monks were always DPS powerhouses - what made them different in velious was their ability to tank.
Numbers_
03-25-2014, 05:49 PM
Well geared Monks could solo better than any class during velious...thats how OP they were.
I doubt it will be that extreme here but who knows.
Solo better how? Faster experience or killing big named mobs? I wasn't around for Velious (quit during kunark). I may have to keep playing my 48 monk if this is true.
I'm loving my enchanter, but I keep reading that they are gimped in Velious. :(
HeallunRumblebelly
03-25-2014, 06:40 PM
Rogues getting out DPS'd by monks is nothing new on P99. Early Kunark IBs monks routinely out DPS'd the rogues. The 2HB dmg bonus adjustment changed that a bit, but even now I don't think I'd have to go too far back to find a parse with Perun or Hoku on top. DPS isn't what makes monks OP in velious. Whether or not monks will be the gods they were on live will depend a lot on how defensive skills and AC are calculated. Monks avoidance and mitigation made them great in velious, but being able to break 1400 AC made them ridiculous.
But yea, not sure why you guys are comparing class DPS, because monks were always DPS powerhouses - what made them different in velious was their ability to tank.
Gaining triple attack in velious is pretty big. Rogues still out parse by a bit (maybe 15-20% margins) but if AC / skills are appropriate monk tanking is god tier once they have the gear :P
Taffan
03-25-2014, 06:42 PM
am i mistaken in stating that rogues really get no upgrade to ragebringer? i recall this being the case for some reason.
edit: upgrade for main hand i mean.
http://wiki.project1999.com/Mrylokar%60s_Dagger_of_Vengeance
http://wiki.project1999.com/Massive_Heartwood_Thorn
Don't worry guys, half the monks on the server just got banned anyways. ;)
Lyrith
03-26-2014, 03:55 PM
Don't worry guys, half the monks on the server just got banned anyways. ;)
+1 lol
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Nilasbik
03-26-2014, 04:23 PM
Until they actually fix ac on this server monks wont be the same tanks they were during velious unfortunately.
Monk are already op here; they are and will be kings of velious!
Raavak
03-26-2014, 04:57 PM
Until they actually fix ac on this server monks wont be the same tanks they were during velious unfortunately.
Didn't think of that. Its probably true.
Meiva
03-26-2014, 05:39 PM
Yeah but this is monks decked out in ToV gear and what not , which is going to be very competitive loot since a lot of it is all/all
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grenravenlock
03-26-2014, 07:01 PM
I could of swore rogues and rangers were at the top of the food chain when fully decked out in the best gear from velious. But I could be wrong.
Taffan
03-26-2014, 08:08 PM
I could of swore rogues and rangers were at the top of the food chain when fully decked out in the best gear from velious. But I could be wrong.
Sounds about right - just a lot of Monk fanboys on this server.
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