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daasgoot
03-25-2014, 12:19 PM
If server staff implemented p99 BLUE to p99 RED character transfers... Would you transfer a character?

EDIT: With only NO DROP gear

Champion_Standing
03-25-2014, 12:23 PM
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Erati
03-25-2014, 12:25 PM
poll is fail bc you dont specify whether this is a naked or geared ( no drop ) transfer

they would never do a fully geared with tradable one.

So at least make a real poll people can debate about.

Faerie
03-25-2014, 12:27 PM
I'd transfer over my blue cleric. Then I'd have two (2!) clerics!

GlassMachine
03-25-2014, 12:28 PM
Wouldn't that defeat the whole point of the red server?

Swish
03-25-2014, 12:44 PM
Bush + towers, clearly.

Swish
03-25-2014, 12:45 PM
I'd transfer my rogue, because leveling a rogue is a PITA on red, particularly with the reduced XP rate.

pharmakos
03-25-2014, 12:49 PM
i think my 58 warrior only has one piece of no drop gear

sooooo.... no.

Yonkec
03-25-2014, 12:54 PM
Poll option omgwtflolz seems to be missing?

myriverse
03-25-2014, 03:09 PM
Not even if you promised me fat RMTs.

Ravager
03-25-2014, 03:33 PM
If I wanted to play on red, then I'd probably be playing on red.

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 03:35 PM
If I wanted to play on red, then I'd probably be playing on red.

The simple mind of a simple man, cheers.

Ravager
03-25-2014, 03:39 PM
Simple is a virtue to all but a fool.

Clark
03-25-2014, 04:26 PM
no

Ele
03-25-2014, 04:34 PM
transfer to red and lose all the resist gear in the process?

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 06:13 PM
i think my 58 warrior only has one piece of no drop gear

sooooo.... no.

what about a lvl 30-50 alt? Strip him of his gear, sell it for plat, transfer character, kill people.

quido
03-25-2014, 06:15 PM
You can convert some blue plat into a red resist set easily enough.

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 06:16 PM
You can convert some blue plat into a red resist set easily enough.

AND its allowed.

Skillslam
03-25-2014, 06:20 PM
yes votes already playing on red lol

evan1612
03-25-2014, 06:21 PM
No because I like playing on servers with a fair population. And making this available would only increase Reds pop for a few months until people got geared to the teeth and bored again.

Plus it would hurt Blue's pop so just that in itself makes it get a No from me.

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 06:26 PM
No because I like playing on servers with a fair population. And making this available would only increase Reds pop for a few months until people got geared to the teeth and bored again.

Plus it would hurt Blue's pop so just that in itself makes it get a No from me.

Some argue blue population could use thinning...

Daldaen
03-25-2014, 06:28 PM
Red should just allow a /redcopy function. Only like 50 people on red so ruining that economy isn't a big deal.

It would actually get some solid PvP then if Blue players could copy over and fight red players.

evan1612
03-25-2014, 06:29 PM
Some argue blue population could use thinning...

Yeah and they are retarded. It's not like blue is that crazy, even at peak it doesn't equal the glory of live days. Though I'll admit the amount of poopsock hardcore mofos is probably higher than live was.

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 06:32 PM
Yeah and they are retarded. It's not like blue is that crazy, even at peak it doesn't equal the glory of live days. Though I'll admit the amount of poopsock hardcore mofos is probably higher than live was.

Im not arguing for or against...

but, i think calling those people retarded might be a bit harsh.

daasgoot
03-25-2014, 06:33 PM
Red should just allow a /redcopy function. Only like 50 people on red so ruining that economy isn't a big deal.

It would actually get some solid PvP then if Blue players could copy over and fight red players.

shit would get crazy on red!

evan1612
03-25-2014, 06:34 PM
Im not arguing for or against...

but, i think calling those people retarded might be a bit harsh.

Probably, my bad. Having a different opinion than me does not make you retarded

Laugher
03-25-2014, 06:48 PM
Some argue blue population could use thinning...

Yes, it could. There is a rotation in place because a large percentage of the pop is too top heavy. Red could use players everywhere and in either case (blue or red) people are already decked out and alting, so why not give people the option of doing it where they want to, or think they may want to? My spiel below:

Would transfer-- One of the biggest reasons I never moved servers on live was because I never wanted to restart the grind (and during my time on Prexus I think the only transferring that was done without paying for it was the merger with Terris Thule server) , and with how long the grind takes on these servers I don't think it'd be a bad idea to at least offer it annually for a weekend or something, maybe that weekend could act as a trial period?

Now that would be fun: for one weekend only if you log in you can try red and if you'd like perma transfer with your notrades, save the date :p

lemme just makes some bullet points of the things that could be (and have been) said by me and/or others on the subject:

1. Its classic. These things happened a lot in this era. Yes, this isn't the entire basis of the argument given that neither of these servers are ran by SOE/Verant or on the same timeline as they did, but in the spirit of keeping things similiar to their rendition this high-low pop transfer (in this case b2r) is something that speculatively would have happened.

2. For the non-classic approach: it would provide a minor balance in the pop and enable more people a better % chance at seeing the high end raid content, as there would be less people on the scene on blue and possibly more on the scene on red

3. Competition: While blue has its ffas for those who are less casual and/or looking for a more competitive atmosphere they could come over and compete unimpeded by rotation

4. Population changes: Recently several names have come and gone after the RMT bans of the last 6 months. This aside the pop is always changing; many higher ups and much more middle class p99ers have either changed face, left or just came along and joined up. These moves could help these players both old and new find their new niche living a clean whistle elfsim life.

5. Teams: When teams comes out it will have an influx. In order to compete with that I believe red will need to offer some good incentives, given that it will be able to afford to pixel package ppl vs teams. Having more hands to farm said pixel packages could help increase the pop and help newbies get their start over on red as well. I think allowing transfers would give red more potential to stand a fair chance against a freshly released server to allow new blood to bring their toons and gear over.

tl;dr again server transfers can be a good thing and allow players a larger level of immersion.

Pint
03-25-2014, 08:45 PM
Red is kind of a garbage server so them letting us just copy over to play temporarily isn't the worst idea, it's not like teams99 isn't going to kill red anyway

Wudan
03-26-2014, 10:07 AM
Transfer? NO! Copy? YES!

pharmakos
03-26-2014, 10:41 AM
i'd be more interested in transferring my level 49 red server paladin over to blue :)

naked would be fine

mgellan
03-26-2014, 10:42 AM
I said no but might consider it if it's a COPY not a TRANSFER.

Regards,
Mg

daasgoot
03-26-2014, 11:13 AM
i'd be more interested in transferring my level 49 red server paladin over to blue :)

naked would be fine

even if there was a wave of new players on the red server? say 300 pop?

Lisset
03-26-2014, 11:14 AM
I said no but might consider it if it's a COPY not a TRANSFER.

Regards,
Mg

I would play around with a copy as well. But I'd never actually leave blue.

pharmakos
03-26-2014, 11:18 AM
even if there was a wave of new players on the red server? say 300 pop?

well if we're talking about shit that's never gonna happen...

daasgoot
03-26-2014, 11:21 AM
well if we're talking about shit that's never gonna happen...

Thats what this poll was about... ;p

BUT

If they did implement some kind of blue to red charector transfer and boosted rate of exp.. i could see the server hitting 300, maybe more

Pint
03-26-2014, 01:28 PM
Thats what this poll was about... ;p

BUT

If they did implement some kind of blue to red charector transfer and boosted rate of exp.. i could see the server hitting 300, maybe more

Wonder how long red could support a pop of 300 with that global chat, it's like an endless stream of aspies going back and forth with each other

Wudan
03-26-2014, 03:10 PM
I would like to hear from GMs how they feel about letting people /copy one of their characters over to red. It seems like a really good idea, easy to implement too!! No plat xfer, no bags full of resources. Just worn gear...

Its a win win

SamwiseRed
03-26-2014, 03:18 PM
transfers is a bad idea. copies is even worse. red isnt some battleground server meant to just log in with a copied toon to mess around on. its a separate server and playstyle completely. a bigger population would be nice but not at the expense of the integrity of being a classic eq pvp box. if you want to play on red then you gotta do the time. it isnt even that bad with xp bonus.

daasgoot
03-26-2014, 03:38 PM
transfers is a bad idea. copies is even worse. red isnt some battleground server meant to just log in with a copied toon to mess around on. its a separate server and playstyle completely. a bigger population would be nice but not at the expense of the integrity of being a classic eq pvp box. if you want to play on red then you gotta do the time. it isnt even that bad with xp bonus.

That's the problem. people don't want to do the time (again) after already doing it on blue. The PVP aspect is appealing to many people, but not appealing enough to grind 60 levels starting with nothing while being griefed by twinks.

I agree /copy isn't the way to go.. but how would /transfer harm the server's integrity? Would you rather run around having people to kill/group with or run around with "integrity" intact and 20 other people to play with on the server?