Very first pvp box?

[Rust1d?]

Who ran the very first pvp box and was it VZTZ 1.0?

[Rec]

SOE

[nilbog]

As far as eqemu, I think(?) it was image/devnoob guild wars.

[Rust1d?]

I mean non SoE lol!

What happened to that box?

[Zalaerian]

Vztz 1.0 was 2007...anything previous was before my time

[nilbog]

Yeah guild wars was in 2002-2003ish

[Smedy]

first pvp box on eqemu was some custom built 3 teams shit, cant remember name but was fun and warsaint hacked the shit out of it around 2005, i also started running my own server like 2006 which warsaint also ruined for me

[Zalaerian]

The realization of playing boxes longer than you did live servers,.....

[Rust1d?]

Warsaint recently posted some shit on their new server and linked showeq and MQ complies etc.

For some reason everybody thinks I am Warsaint...no fucking idea why.

Anyway, just was curious. Who ran the first VZTZ box?

[Zalaerian]

Daxum?

[nilbog]

I played vztz 1.0. It was my first eqemu server in 2007. When I joined, it was ran by Daxum, with item loot.

[Not_Kazowi]

first pvp box on eqemu was some custom built 3 teams shit, cant remember name but was fun and warsaint hacked the shit out of it around 2005, i also started running my own server like 2006 which warsaint also ruined for me

Freeport vs qeynos.

It was honestly the most fun pvp server I ever played. Was completely custom with 3 teams, FP qeynos or neutral. Only like 9 zoned which bottle necked to one raid zone.

[Feniggles]

loved guild wars. i played a wizard think you had to get 3 - 4 tokens for epic. spells were bought in felwithe i think?

[Bardalicious]

I played vztz 1.0. It was my first eqemu server in 2007. When I joined, it was ran by Daxum, with item loot.

So you played RZ with item loot and have expressed preferring that system.. You played VZTZ 1.0 with item loot...

How is it Red 99 isn't item loot with classic RZ level range? I mean it's obvious Rogean isn't running the show, wouldn't the next logical conclusion be that you are??

Not trolling, serious questions.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20030408155602/http://www.eqemu.net/

http://i.imgur.com/cEEUgb1.jpg

No it wasn't single box, sorry :( But I can tell you trying to run prototype 'big' servers back then with p1/p2s with 192-384mb ram at 40-100% cpu in the hot desert (room was 90-100 degrees) was a mess :P

[Rust1d?]

Wonder how many people were hacking back then. Who actually ran the EMU itself?

[image]

Wonder how many people were hacking back then. Who actually ran the EMU itself?

Ran it? I think Hogie was the first guy to kind of consolidate (eqemu.net) which is prob 2003~ (my memory isn't great there on that though).

Before that consolidation there were loose controls, some people were hosting the website (Tux Racer/DigitalWorkings) for agxemu/freequest, followed by sourceforge for eqemu.

When the login server came into play (we used to be able to login directly to the world servers before) it was hosted by Pyrotek, Hogie and a few others.

Consolidation later: LethalEncounter followed by Doodman and most currently Rogean were after all that.

Also I can confirm rust1d is not warsaint, we had trouble with warsaint even back on guildwars.

[devn00b]

Back then it was Image, Me, Hogie, Pyro, Sean319, and Quagmire.

[Rust1d?]

So who were Daxum, Secrets and Gronkus etc? All VZTZ boxes?

[devn00b]

They were just people that ran boxes.

[Zoolander]

I played vztz 1.0. It was my first eqemu server in 2007. When I joined, it was ran by Daxum, with item loot.

he was a realy cool guy, liked him alot.

(population doubled the moment he took item loot out, just saying)

[nilbog]

So you played RZ with item loot and have expressed preferring that system.. You played VZTZ 1.0 with item loot...

How is it Red 99 isn't item loot with classic RZ level range? I mean it's obvious Rogean isn't running the show, wouldn't the next logical conclusion be that you are??

Not trolling, serious questions.

That's the way we should have started it, then if it was a problem, could have been removed. I don't think it is feasible to add item loot to an existing geared playerbase.

[Rust1d?]

So why was code never handed down from server to server and people have to fix the same bugs over and over?

[devn00b]

All of the guildwars code was ported into eqemu, much of our loz/rz code changes have been handed in, hell were still trying to get someone to port in a diff we have for MQ2 exploits right now. Just no one will do it.

Much of the VZ/TZ code was passed out and looked at and what was worth it was ported in from what I can tell, and remember.

The big issue is once its in the main code someone goes and fucks with it, and breaks everything. So next box up has to fix all the crap that someone borked. We had to fix countless bugs that we had fixed and ported in with the guildwars source this way.

[Bardalicious]

That's the way we should have started it, then if it was a problem, could have been removed. I don't think it is feasible to add item loot to an existing geared playerbase.

Well, thanks for the response at least. I would agree that it'd be detrimental to add item loot at this point for Red 99. It would require a new server or complete wipe, and with teams being the next topic of discussion and a "no wipe" policy for Project 1999 servers, I'm guessing I won't see a RZ-style ruleset from this project.

Which saddens me. Hacking is a huge hurdle to any servers attempting pvp with item loot, which is severely lessened with the detection methods and staff involvement here. I don't feel any other existing emu teams could have pulled it off like this one could have.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Anyone here play Guildwars when it came out? Guess im that oldskool to eqemu, Blaze the pally here reppin it hard. Shit was great fun i miss that server and died inside when it did

[Rellapse36]

no1 cares

[Rust1d?]

Well, thanks for the response at least. I would agree that it'd be detrimental to add item loot at this point for Red 99. It would require a new server or complete wipe, and with teams being the next topic of discussion and a "no wipe" policy for Project 1999 servers, I'm guessing I won't see a RZ-style ruleset from this project.

Which saddens me. Hacking is a huge hurdle to any servers attempting pvp with item loot, which is severely lessened with the detection methods and staff involvement here. I don't feel any other existing emu teams could have pulled it off like this one could have.

Could be solved by people just playing the game for fun but no way.

[dre]

So why was code never handed down from server to server and people have to fix the same bugs over and over?

Start by asking why Alonouva isn't releasing pathing to eqemu and to p99 only.

The pied pipers of eqemu developers wouldn't allow it!

[Knuckle]

The realization of playing boxes longer than you did live servers,.....

fuck... :D