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Rhambuk
03-17-2014, 10:37 AM
Been quadding in oot the past few days and every now and again I'll start casting a spell, the spell cast bar will go down, the spell won't go off, and I don't get any message.

at first I didn't think much of it but it happens more and more, i took a screen that doesn't show a lot but im gonna try and get more evidence.

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad326/Kinamur37/bug.jpg

Spell starts, get the skillup from cast but the spell didn't land, and no resist/interrupt messsage.

whitebandit
03-17-2014, 12:05 PM
are the monsters standing in water maybe?

Rhambuk
03-17-2014, 05:51 PM
no, i am kiting over hills but there is no line of sight message which i usually get if they are over the hill.

I haven't paid close enough attention to see if it takes mana or not yet im gonna see tonight hopefully

planarity
03-17-2014, 09:14 PM
can confirm I've experienced this both around water and around hills

Kazi
03-17-2014, 10:05 PM
Can confirm as well. Has happened multiple times and am fairly positive it costs mana. Might have something to do z axis? Are mobs dipping into a gully when the spell goes off?

Rhambuk
03-18-2014, 07:48 AM
I've been taking screenshots everytime I cast a spell to see if i can get a before and after.

If they are between hills I always get the cannot see target fail message, I only get the no message no cast when i should have had los or i believe i should have.

Rhambuk
03-18-2014, 09:26 AM
So after like 120 casts/screenshots I got it, not sure if this is enough evidence for anything but i tried.

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad326/Kinamur37/1.png

You can see mobs are kind of behind that hill, but still cast.

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad326/Kinamur37/2.png

here we see the mobs have come over the hill in full view, my castbar is gone so im finished casting and no interrupt/line of sight message in my chatbox where it should be.

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad326/Kinamur37/3.png

This is what a line of sightmessage normally looks like for me.

mayhem32
03-18-2014, 03:09 PM
This happens to me a few times a day when I'm quadding in FV. Mana is expended, and the spell gem goes grey as if the cast went off, but nothing happens.

Rhambuk
03-20-2014, 08:30 AM
Is more evidence needed? I could try to fraps it but that sounds awful ;p

Laledorie
03-20-2014, 12:36 PM
I'm having the same problem... I just thought I was crazy for a while. Glad that it's a known issue. It doesn't seem to happen when I stay on level ground but when I start kiting the giants up over the hills, it happens all the time. >.<

Nirgon
03-20-2014, 04:48 PM
Had it happen whenever a sea fury cyclops's feet so much as grazed the water in OOT.

Rhambuk
03-29-2014, 03:48 AM
bump

AgentGenX
03-29-2014, 04:56 PM
Add my testimonial to the list. Has been happening to me too, in FV, Tim Deep at aviaks, Dreadlands. No failed message, mana IS definitely burned. The only cause of this I can gather, is that it's up/down positioning causing this. Even with the mobs in plain full view, if the area is not 100% flat - just a slight incline gives this a chance to happen. Either me being slightly higher than the mobs, or the mobs slightly higher than myself, doesn't matter.

EDIT: Also happened in Burning Woods today with hornets :(

AgentGenX
03-29-2014, 05:16 PM
Ok just happened in FV, got a picture of it. The text box looks like I may have snapped the picture before the spell landed, but it in fact has completely finished - just no succeed/fail message, no effect from the spell hitting the mob, and mana is drained from it. Look at the incline from the mobs to myself...it's not that drastic, the spell should be landing with no problem.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m251/AgentGenX/Vanguard/EQ000039_zpsa3ddcac9.png

Rhambuk
04-09-2014, 11:00 PM
Assuming the powers at be are working on this but with no response id like to keep it semi updated until resolved.

Is there anything I can do to help the process? do you need a video of it happening, i can try but fraps caps out at about 15seconds for me.

tristantio
04-09-2014, 11:27 PM
Maybe related to the can't auto attack bug?

Rhambuk
04-10-2014, 08:08 AM
hmm havent heard or encountered this auto attack bug yet, thinking it has to do with z axis and LoS

JayBruce
04-18-2014, 12:59 AM
Been having this happen while quadding raptors. Just had my final mob left at 5% and tried to Lumi Staff it to death, but every single cast went off and never did damage. I tried moving around and getting in different positions but was never able to hit the mob until memming my nuke and just nuking it down....I've only had this problem with targetted AE's.

Rheaume
04-18-2014, 01:20 AM
It happens to me anywhere and everywhere. Been this way for two months. I just assumed it was my internet lagging.
Happens when casting on self, too.
Mobs, inclines, water, none of that matter. It feels like it is every third cast for me.

Kazi
04-18-2014, 01:43 AM
The next step seems to be to confirm that this only occurs with AE spells and not single nukes.

Rhambuk
04-20-2014, 05:54 PM
The next step seems to be to confirm that this only occurs with AE spells and not single nukes.

never experienced this with a single target nuke or a pbae only the targeted ae's like column of lightning.

Something is definitely screwy with these types of spells, not only will they not go off they are also hitting more targets than they are supposed to, see http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147026

I've given all the information I can on these subject, screenshots etc etc. If the devs need any data or testing done im definitely willing im just not sure what more I can do at this point.

Just waitin to see if its something that can be fixed, this isn't a major issue just a minor annoyance but would be nice to see it fixed.

Rhambuk
05-01-2014, 06:48 PM
bump

Brut
05-05-2014, 09:45 AM
Bump, getting this like once per kite in BW on my wiz.

No water or messy hill Z axis, either. Thought it'd be the fallen logs, but getting it at nearly flat ground, too. Can't really figure out a patterns here.

packmuleforlife
05-06-2014, 03:15 PM
Can confirm, happens multiple times a day when quadding anything with my druid. I cast, lose mana, no damage/message at all

Jpump
05-10-2014, 09:29 AM
Happened to my friend in OOT while quading Seafury Cyclops'. Using level 49 Druid spell Lightning Blast, and he's had it happen 4 times in a row.

Rhambuk
05-20-2014, 08:34 AM
Bump

Thoughts theories? ways we can help sort this out'?

Brut
05-27-2014, 10:40 AM
Still getting these, not as frequently lately. Got like 2 so far today in some 4h BW giant quad kiting session.

Brut
05-30-2014, 01:42 PM
Bump. Some guy theorycrafted that it's caused by server desyncing mob position or somecrap and the Z axis goes iffy. I srsly dunno since getting this on perfectly good visual of the mobs, like where Im at higher altitude where I should never not be in "cant see target"-situation with the mobs chasing me.

Haynar
05-30-2014, 02:19 PM
Looking at code for this. I think its because a mob does not update its z pos all the time when moving. So when the target'd AE hits, the mobs z might be still scaling between points. Rather than updating actual z.

Will see if i can force a position update in there somewhere, to make sure the z is correct when it hits. Might fix it.

H

Rhambuk
05-30-2014, 06:12 PM
Thanks H if you need anymore info on the matter just holler!