swarm kiting

[SamIamLegend]

anyone know of a GOOD video that really shows you how to do it?

[daasgoot]

There are a number of ways you can swarm kite with a bard. Here are a couple video's showing 2 different methods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIlfIN8pqZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjWLZAqRwh4

This is also a link to a guide on the P99 wiki that has some good information.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Hmotzart%27s_Hmasterpiece_of_Hmass_AoE_Hmurder


Hope this helps.

[Samoht Farstrider]

I learned from the first video. Second one is harder for me with the mouse steering.

[daasgoot]

I learned from the first video. Second one is harder for me with the mouse steering.

The guide I posted a link to should help you better understand how the mouse steering and using macros works.

If you have any questions or need help feel free to /tell daasgoot in game.

My favorite way to swarm kite is using mouse steering with macros and normal run speed (no selos). This requires a large area to make circles in but has been the safest way for me to kite.

[Samoht Farstrider]

I know how they work. I tried it when I first started kiting. It just didn't feel natrual to me since I never use mouse steering for anything in game. I use macros too so the only difference is how to turn. Tried the tapping method and I like it much better.

[falkun]

I learned tapping. No videos, just started practice and execution on a few mobs and worked my way up to most of Overthere.

[Ugrask]

I did mouse steer to 49 naked. The only "issues" I ran into were FV Drolvargs, the uneven ground made for some mishaps trying to put on Chords, but I learned my lesson after a while.

Videos didn't really help, it's just something you learn by doing. At least for me. They can give you the basic idea, but it all boils down to you, your connection and what your computer can handle.

[daasgoot]

I did mouse steer to 49 naked. The only "issues" I ran into were FV Drolvargs, the uneven ground made for some mishaps trying to put on Chords, but I learned my lesson after a while.

Videos didn't really help, it's just something you learn by doing. At least for me. They can give you the basic idea, but it all boils down to you, your connection and what your computer can handle.

I hear you.. I definitely died more often kiting the drolvs in FV than i do in OT.. but pulling the drolvs was so nice.. Could easily pull 50-60 mobs in sub 10 minutes.

[Awwalike]

There are a number of ways you can swarm kite with a bard. Here are a couple video's showing 2 different methods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIlfIN8pqZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjWLZAqRwh4

This is also a link to a guide on the P99 wiki that has some good information.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Hmotzart%27s_Hmasterpiece_of_Hmass_AoE_Hmurder


Hope this helps.

these are examples of AE kiting not swarm kiting.

[daasgoot]

these are examples of AE kiting not swarm kiting.

Ok.

Thanks for your input.

[Faerie]

these are examples of AE kiting not swarm kiting.

This 100%. It's painful watching all these new bards butcher the bard terms we actually used back on live.

[Ugrask]

Yeah, cause building a large group of mobs...a swarm and then AEing it down and using an incorrect term you all made up is soooooo fucking painful.

Get a life.

[Faerie]

Swarm kiting was getting a handful of social NPCs (like 6), charming one and sending it at one of the others. They would all swarm your charmed friend, taking its hp down quickly.

You guys are all talking about AE kiting, which is entirely different. If you're gonna hop on the bard bandwagon now that you know how cool the class is, you might as well use the right words for things.

[Ugrask]

I know what the difference is. Still doesn't fucking matter is the point. You still have a swarm of mobs, so people just call it that.

If you get hot and bothered over made up terms...refer to my previous statement.

[Calibix]

Yea. I feel like every time the term "swarm kiting" gets used, someone, usually Faerie has to come in and correct us all. We get it, its not what swarm kiting was on live. However, AE kiting as you like to call it is much more appropriately named here on P99 than it was on live since there is a significantly larger amount of mobs, you know, like a swarm of them?

[Faerie]

It's a serious pet peeve of mine. You guys should respect the bards that came before you and not butcher these terms :P

[Ugrask]

It's ridiculous. Why isn't it charm kiting instead? Or a totally different term, Because People 15 years ago said so and its set in stone? Yeah okay. Get your ass back to the 1950s where things aren't supposed to ever change.

Again, it's a game, get a life and stop jumping into threads with people asking for help to correct their terminology and offer nothing else. Or take some medication for this pet peeve of yours.

[Erica]

It's a serious pet peeve of mine. You guys should respect the bards that came before you and not butcher these terms :P

You should respect the people who spoke English (long) before you and not butcher their words.

[Faerie]

That's another thing. When a word like "literally" is allowed to mean the exact opposite of what it actually means, the people suffer. Language has a hard enough time doing its job as things are, and it's only getting worse :(

[Ugrask]

Respect is earned not deserved because of some make believe superiority complex and pet peeves. Jump down peoples throat for a made up term constantly and you get none. And terms in a video game does not constitute English, so move on before adding in your unwanted two cents. And considering I've been playing this game since 1999, I'm not new and can claim my server called it that, which would make me just as valid.

swarm1 [swawrm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a body of honeybees that emigrate from a hive and fly off together, accompanied by a queen, to start a new colony.
2.
a body of bees settled together, as in a hive.
3.
a great number of things or persons, especially in motion.

Oh man look at definition three, the exact thing that Bard AE kiting is....Whats that? English proven. Exactly.

[Faerie]

The social behavior required for true swarm kiting makes it seem more sensible to me. Plus, it's the actual term we used back then and that makes us right by default. Not sure what server you come from but they sound like a backward people.

Kids play their rap music too loud.

[Ugrask]

No it really doesn't. It fits "Charm kiting" because you're charming. And because it seems sensible to you, does not make you right anymore than us, because its a giant swarm being killed.

Get off your old timer higher horse. I'm thirty, I'm not a child. Seriously invest in some meds because your old age is turning you into an irritable cunt.

[Faerie]

Goddamn kids got no respect.

[Ugrask]

Refer to previous point saying it's earned. You have shown me none, ergo deserve none.

Let's see helpful posts when people ask questions instead of belittling their choice of terminology because you don't agree. Then maybe you'd get some.

[Faerie]

Back in my day, we didn't have FD pullers or shaman buffs/slows. We worked hard for what we had, and every bit of it was earned. Today's generation feels entitled to easy kiting and epics. You know what my guild had to do to get my epic? Do you? We didn't get to MQ trak loot at level 1 like you're all used to today, no siree. We fought off hordes of lighties in a blistering hot jungle (that was haunted btw), uphill both ways. People were ghosting all over the place, it was hell. And now you've got your fancy new UIs that make instrument swapping simple and easy just the way you like it. We had to take up our hotkey spots if we wanted to swap instruments like pros, and bards have a lot of buttons that need pressing. Look at all the skills bards get! Plus the constant twisting... you know how many hotkeys we had back then? Not nearly enough is right.

If that's not deserving of respect I don't know what is ;)

[Ugrask]

Again, I played with the old UI and full screen book medding. You still deserve zero respect with your trolling.

I leveled an Iksar SK to 60 pre-velious xp penalty reduction, if your tomfoolery deserves respect, mine does plus some.

[Faerie]

Again, I played with the old UI and full screen book medding. You still deserve zero respect with your trolling.

I leveled an Iksar SK to 60 pre-velious xp penalty reduction, if your tomfoolery deserves respect, mine does plus some.

Anyone that leveled up in classic EQ deserves some respect :)

But you don't see me calling FD pulling fear kiting, or mixing up the term "lifetap" with "harmtouch".

[Wrench]

because as usual, shes right and youre wrong

ps no one cares what level your iksar was

chewlover whiteknighting? didnt think id see the day

this must be serious

[big mouth chew]

Hey wrench, buff me

[Ugrask]

Those are actual names of spells defined in the game. Charm Kiting, AE Kiting, Swarming are all shit people made up, and you use charm in your kiting...so charm kiting. Logic, you lose. The end.

[Wrench]

swarm kiting? doesn't work on this server, not sure why
prove me wrong

just checked, still works on blue

reds broke or your bad

pl me a bard to 27 and well find out which

[Wrench]

lol chewie, gtfo

[Cecily]

I'm not a child. Seriously invest in some meds because your old age is turning you into an irritable cunt.

Claim refuted in the span of two sentences. Lol. Kids these days, amirite?

[Ugrask]

Claim refuted in the span of two sentences. Lol. Kids these days, amirite?

Calling a spade a spade doesn't make you a child. Maybe you need to hop on the band wagon for some meds as well.

You can barely count as proven last time, with your ninja edit. So maybe a new RX on your glasses too.

[drktmplr12]

31 posts of which 90% is argument on semantics.

tldr; people call the same thing different names and can't get over it.

can this garbage be locked or deleted from this beautiful melee forum.

[Cecily]

Also, dude, swarm kiting is not the preferred nomenclature. AE kiting, please.

[Unferth]

The way I remember it, Bards would either charm kite or swarm kite.

I've never heard it called AE kiting until I joined P1999 lol...

[Faerie]

Charm kiting is for druids.