Ogre Shaman V Troll Shaman in velious

[Ames who?]

Which race is better suited for soloing in velious? Since you will be tanking the mobs I can see why frontal stun immunity is great asset but how does it stack up to the 600 hp that trolls regen while standing over a five minute fight vs an ogre reneging 200 hp over that same time? The mobs would be slowed with torpor running and all you need is to be able to out regen the mobs dps which should be easily accomplished with those two spells. You could also time your spells in between bashes but one misstep might get you killed. What do yall think?

Iksar is out of the question because i want slam for pvp.

[Azure]

Frontal stun is bs vs players cause no one cares bout that shit + spells

Frontal stun vs mobs dumb, cause you shouldnt be tanking mobs

Regen is were its at.

[Bazia]

once you have torpor regen is kinda a non factor

[Greegon]

trolls cuz look cooler

[heartbrand]

too late u aint gettin 60 b4 velious dawg with either

[Bazia]

HB how much has the exp rate hurt the server?

I'm still a couple months from returning and curious.

Is there now a meaningful low-end community as intended?

[heartbrand]

no people just quit instead

[Bazia]

Hmmm.. I thought having to endure constant ass pillaging from level 60s while you're 52+ for a longer period of time would have been a good thing.

[HippoNipple]

Ogre

[Vile]

Regen is nice.. but no frontal stun.. if you want to be the 'best'..

[Potus]

There's no low-end now. It's all gone. No one wants to grind low levels solo just to get stomped at 52.

I was online last night at 9pm and went from Guk to North Karana and saw 3 people.

[Mac Dretti]

Trollin cus be trollin cus be trollin

[HippoNipple]

There's no low-end now. It's all gone. No one wants to grind low levels solo just to get stomped at 52.

I was online last night at 9pm and went from Guk to North Karana and saw 3 people.

Were they all SKs harm touching you? Those were all Chewie.

[Tradesonred]

There's no low-end now. It's all gone. No one wants to grind low levels solo just to get stomped at 52.

I was online last night at 9pm and went from Guk to North Karana and saw 3 people.

Less imagined QQ, more pew pew

[Juhstin]

Less QQ, more pew pew as the GM would say.

[kank]

I just rolled an Iksar... what was I thinking

[HippoNipple]

I just rolled an Iksar... what was I thinking

Great for role-playing.

[Galacticus]

Mobs can quad for 600.

600 hp over 5 min is a joke.

Torpor keeps you alive not regen.

The regen is nice but you just won't really notice it.

When you get stunned and take an extra two rounds of quad damage and die you will wish you roled an ogre.

I've been a troll 60 on live and always envied my guild mate ogres who could kill things the barbs and trolls couldn't.

[Azure]

Mobs can quad for 600.

600 hp over 5 min is a joke.

Torpor keeps you alive not regen.

The regen is nice but you just won't really notice it.

When you get stunned and take an extra two rounds of quad damage and die you will wish you roled an ogre.

I've been a troll 60 on live and always envied my guild mate ogres who could kill things the barbs and trolls couldn't.

Thanks for the enlightenment. Did not approach from this angle. U sir made Rlvl/Azure smarter. Few earn this honor.

[Something'Witty]

Ogre. Hell, if there were no race / class restrictions, I would always be an ogre. Frontal stun immunity > any other racial trait.

[Potus]

Mobs can quad for 600.

600 hp over 5 min is a joke.

Torpor keeps you alive not regen.

The regen is nice but you just won't really notice it.

When you get stunned and take an extra two rounds of quad damage and die you will wish you roled an ogre.

I've been a troll 60 on live and always envied my guild mate ogres who could kill things the barbs and trolls couldn't.

How does stun immunity prevent this from happening anyways? What you get another torpor off? 300hp a tick isn't going to save you from getting quaded again.

[vouss]

will help you root or slow something though

[HippoNipple]

How does stun immunity prevent this from happening anyways? What you get another torpor off? 300hp a tick isn't going to save you from getting quaded again.

Stun immunity makes everything run smoothly. No missed DPS from interrupted spell cast, as poster above mentioned it will be slowed right on time.

People that are max efficient with slows/dots/torpor will have it timed right so they are casting spells right when they need to.

This crap is all irrelevant unless you are trying to down the toughest mobs possible solo.

[Nirgon]

once you have torpor regen is kinda a non factor

Holy shit someone with critical thinking skills.

I almost fell out of my fucking chair.

[Tradesonred]

TOOOOOOOOOOORRPPOOOOOOOOOOOOR

[Obwin]

Troll better for leveling. Ogre best for min/max once you are 60 with torpor. Trolls are so much easier to level, regen really makes a huge difference if you are leveling untwined from 24-59.

Also trolls for superior looks.

If endgame soloing is your only consideration ogre is the easy choice.

[VincentVolaju]

Iksar!

[Ames who?]

too late u aint gettin 60 b4 velious dawg with either

Not trying to rush to level 60 before velious.. those hp regen stats are from lvl 56-59 anyway. At 60 troll regen is actually 12hp per tick instead of ten. I do plan on hitting 60 eventually though. Although with my playtime that might be an incredibly long way away.

Can i get dat pixel package from RD dog?

[Azure]

thread makes me want to roll a barby sham just 2 spite all u ogre/troll/iksars

[Galacticus]

How does stun immunity prevent this from happening anyways? What you get another torpor off? 300hp a tick isn't going to save you from getting quaded again.

Its all about landing malo and slow before you die. Usually you torpor yourself at full hp then pull with slow so you are already healing when your getting hit.

Mobs can stun you with normal hits and quad. Depending on the mob and your hp, you might be able to only get one or two casts off to slow it before you are dead.

Torpor only keeps you alive if its slowed.

[Ames who?]

Its all about landing malo and slow before you die. Usually you torpor yourself at full hp then pull with slow so you are already healing when your getting hit.

Mobs can stun you with normal hits and quad. Depending on the mob and your hp, you might be able to only get one or two casts off to slow it before you are dead.

Torpor only keeps you alive if its slowed.

I really think I'm set on ogre. WW Wyverns and Lozidal are pretty much my end-game goals because I do not plan on doing any type of raiding beyond what I need for my epic.

[Ames who?]

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[Azure]

lol

[dethbringre]

Iksars are coolest

[Potus]

Its all about landing malo and slow before you die. Usually you torpor yourself at full hp then pull with slow so you are already healing when your getting hit.

Mobs can stun you with normal hits and quad. Depending on the mob and your hp, you might be able to only get one or two casts off to slow it before you are dead.

Torpor only keeps you alive if its slowed.

Gotcha, that makes sense. So an Ogre is likely to live long enough to get a second slow off if the initial slow gets resisted, correct?

[Kergan]

Ogre frontal stun immunity is the only ability that can't be mitigated or replaced with spells/items. For a true min/maxer you should be an ogre for all classes they can be.

[Kergan]

Troll better for leveling. Ogre best for min/max once you are 60 with torpor. Trolls are so much easier to level, regen really makes a huge difference if you are leveling untwined from 24-59.

Also trolls for superior looks.

If endgame soloing is your only consideration ogre is the easy choice.

I'd disagree with that based on the extra exp penalty for trolls alone. A troll might be better until like level 14 or something. I guess on this server now that takes 3-4 weeks so maybe it is worth it.

[JayN]

corner casting ogre shaman ftw

[Obwin]

I'd disagree with that based on the extra exp penalty for trolls alone. A troll might be better until like level 14 or something. I guess on this server now that takes 3-4 weeks so maybe it is worth it.

Double the regen is definitely worth the 5% extra penalty, speeds up the pace you can kill mobs quite significantly.

[Azure]

Anyone playing either race is automatically uncool.

+9001 internets to Faerie for this obvious observation.

Ogres and Trolls are bad (Tm) and worship heathen gods.

[Clark]

Ogre. Hell, if there were no race / class restrictions, I would always be an ogre. Frontal stun immunity > any other racial trait.

[LostCause]

root whats that?