Kael Giants Stunnable

[Ele]

Should not all the giants in Velious be resisting any stuns/be immune?

Was duoing with some monks in the Kael Arena and we noticed that T-Staff proc was resulting in an immune message, but Skullcrushers of Kragg (Stun) were allowing the stuns to hit without a message, when not resisted.

[Thu Mar 06 13:35:49 2014] Guard Rolkin is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:00 2014] Trooper Nyorll is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:01 2014] Trooper Nyorll is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:18 2014] Trooper Nyorll is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:46 2014] Fillip tells the group, 'so.. when TStaff procs, it says he is immune to stuns'
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:19 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:40 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:49 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:52 2014] Fillip tells the group, 'you getting the message in your logs? Guard Sjior is stunned.'

[Thu Mar 06 14:06:30 2014] Your target resisted the Stun spell.


[Thu Mar 06 14:07:13 2014] Senior Guard Stoneaxe is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:07:40 2014] Senior Guard Stoneaxe is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:07:50 2014] Senior Guard Stoneaxe is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:08:01 2014] Senior Guard Stoneaxe is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:08:09 2014] Senior Guard Stoneaxe is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:11:00 2014] Senior Guard Randeil is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:11:03 2014] Senior Guard Randeil is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:11:43 2014] Senior Guard Randeil is stunned.

[Thu Mar 06 15:53:00 2014] Lieutenant Hrykker is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 15:54:13 2014] Watcher Stellrevn is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 15:58:14 2014] Watchman Whiteblade is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 15:58:23 2014] Watchman Whiteblade is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 16:00:49 2014] Watcher Hjrommar is stunned.


http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2134
Giants are not mezzable or stunnable.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=115
watch the room spawn timer because the giants cant be mezed or stunned,

[Jaxon]

I was able to stun caster giants in the arena area(the spells landed) but not once did it interrupt their casting. They always regained concentration.

I don't know what the classic mechanics were.

[Daldaen]

Does it actually stun them though? Check if it stops their melee swings for a period.

On EQMac you would see the "derp has been stunned" message but the mob is unphased and continues swinging at you.

Try that out and report back.

[Ele]

Doesn't appear to slow down melee. Previous hit -> stun -> next round listed below:

[Thu Mar 06 13:35:47 2014] Guard Rolkin hits Fillip for 58 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 13:35:49 2014] Guard Rolkin is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 13:35:50 2014] Guard Rolkin hits Fillip for 22 points of damage.

[Thu Mar 06 14:02:01 2014] Trooper Nyorll tries to hit Fillip, but misses!
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:01 2014] Trooper Nyorll hits Fillip for 59 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:01 2014] Trooper Nyorll is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:04 2014] Trooper Nyorll hits Fillip for 36 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:04 2014] Trooper Nyorll hits Fillip for 148 points of damage.

[Thu Mar 06 14:02:18 2014] Trooper Nyorll tries to hit Fillip, but misses!
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:18 2014] Trooper Nyorll hits Fillip for 94 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:18 2014] Trooper Nyorll is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:20 2014] Trooper Nyorll hits Fillip for 94 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:02:20 2014] Trooper Nyorll tries to hit Fillip, but Fillip dodges!

[Thu Mar 06 14:03:16 2014] Guard Sjior hits YOU for 58 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:19 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:19 2014] Guard Sjior tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:19 2014] Guard Sjior hits YOU for 58 points of damage.

[Thu Mar 06 14:03:39 2014] Guard Sjior hits Fillip for 90 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:40 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:41 2014] Guard Sjior hits Fillip for 26 points of damage.

[Thu Mar 06 14:03:47 2014] Guard Sjior hits Fillip for 26 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:47 2014] Guard Sjior hits Fillip for 117 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:49 2014] Guard Sjior is stunned.
[Thu Mar 06 14:03:50 2014] Guard Sjior tries to hit Fillip, but misses!

[Nuggie]

i used to cast stun, for the pushback, on the giants back in the day. the push effect would work but not the stun portion of the spell. I'm also curious if it just appears that its working, but not actually working.

[Rogean]

The "is stunned." part is coming from the actual spell file, for the spell landing. The spell is not getting resisted so that message still goes out, but when the server actually goes to process the stun effect part of the spell, it sees immunity and nothing happens.

[nilbog]

They are all immune.

It looks like the 'is stunned' message still appears though. Should it?

[Rogean]

On EQMac you would see the "derp has been stunned" message but the mob is unphased and continues swinging at you.

Answers our question there.

There was a patch on live later on that changed it so if every individual component of a spell got resisted, the whole spell would send back a resist message instead of displaying it's landing text and etc. This was after Planes of Power at some point.