Necromancer - Augment Death

[Scrubosaur]

It appears that this spell is only lasting roughly 6mins. This is not consistent with spell data from Lucy http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=661 which shows 12.7 mins @L39 to 15.0 mins @L47. The date of that data is 2005 with the earliest spell info being 2002. But if you look at other pet haste spells such as
Intensify Death http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=449 it shows a spell duration of 3.4 mins @L24 to 7.0 mins @L60 which is consistent with p99 and no change until 11/20/2007 when haste spell durations are updated.

Also the higher level spell Augmentation of Death http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=1414 doesn't show a change from 17.5 mins until 11/20/2007

So I believe it is safe to assume that if the lower version and the higher version do not show a changes until 11/20/2007 then the middle version that 2005 data shows has a duration of 12.7 mins should probably last that long instead of the current 6 mins.

[tristantio]

Oh man, I always thought that spell lasted like an hour (epic fail)

[Scrubosaur]

Casting every 6mins sucks...especially since there is no notice when the spell falls off. Would be nice to get this update along with the mage pet buff.

[Scrubosaur]

Still haven't noticed a change with this spell - dps falls off at around 6 mins.

[Gaxx]

I've noticed the same issue. I almost never use this spell because it seems like a waste of mana with only a 6 min duration.

[Potus]

Casters Realm says 15 minutes. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010418042351/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spell.asp?Id=451)

[Potus]

Also when this gets fixed, a good way to tell when Augment wears off is that Jboots lasts 18 minutes, so refresh jboots when you buff your pet, then look at your JBoots timer. When it is down to 3 minutes recast augment.

Repeat.

[Scrubosaur]

Still clicking this shit every 6 mins =/

[Potus]

Yeah it should be 15 minutes. Super noticeable when soloing.

[Scrubosaur]

Still an issue

[Scrubosaur]

Oops it dropped to second page.

[Treats]

Duration for Augment Death is Unknown in Kunark spdat.

Augment Death
Increase Attack Speed for between 49% (L39) to 55% (L45)
Increase Strength from 39 (L39) to 50 (L60)
Increase Armor Class (AC) from 10 (L39) to 14 (L60)


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Classes: Nec (L39)

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Range to Target: 100 feet

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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: Pet

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 100
Spell Duration: Unknown
Duration Formula: 8
Casting Time: 6.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds
Recast Delay: 30.0 seconds

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Spell cast on someone: Soandso's eyes gleam with maddness.


Duration is 15 minutes in Velious spdat (2/8/2001).

Augment Death
Increase Attack Speed for between 49% (L39) to 55% (L45) in 150 ticks
Increase Strength from 39 (L39) to 45 (L50)
Increase Armor Class (AC) from 10 (L39) to 12 (L50)


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Classes: Nec (L39)

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Range to Target: 100 feet

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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: Pet

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 200
Spell Duration: 150 ticks (15.0 minutes)
Duration Formula: 10
Casting Time: 6.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds
Recast Delay: 30.0 seconds

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Spell cast on someone: Soandso's eyes gleam with madness.

[Potus]

Was the duration unknown because it lasted longer depending on your level?

[Treats]

Was the duration unknown because it lasted longer depending on your level?

Dunno, not sure what Duration Formula 8 is.

[Scrubosaur]

Can we get this straightened out?

[Erati]

Can we get this straightened out?

find some proof :P

no one will change anything without evidence it was 15 min in Kunark

so no response will be given til something warrants one

[Scrubosaur]

find some proof :P

no one will change anything without evidence it was 15 min in Kunark

so no response will be given til something warrants one

Check my original comment.

[Potus]

EQNecro's spell guide has captures dating back to 2000 but when you click on them they send you to a post from 2001. It says 15 minutes, as well.

Was there ever a patch message about buffing/nerfing the duration?

[Scrubosaur]

I looked around and couldn't find anything about a duration change to necromancer pet haste but there was a change to mage pet haste which sounds like it was a bug in the first place. But does it make any sense for the higher level pet haste to last as long as the lower level pet haste? Pretty sure most if not all buffs scale by spell level (and some character level) so it's not a leap of faith to increase the necro pet haste by what is stated in lucy spell info.

[Vicatin]

Did this ever get hashed out?

[Arterian]

Please fix? Any dev comments?

[Potus]

Did this ever get hashed out?

Nope, like all broken Necromancer spell issues it has been ignored.

Here's a quote from 2000 saying it was 15 minutes. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010714082512/http://everlore.com/magic/Magic.asp?ID=6192&mode=details&spname=Augment+Death&type=)

[Vicatin]

Quite annoying. Hard to see if your pet is still doing good damage now too since u practicaly need to be on top of them to see the damage messages.

[Potus]

Yeah I basically recast Augment every 3rd pull, it's frustrating because it takes forever to refresh.

[eqgmrdbz]

Having a Necro, i would like to know if this issue will ever get fixed.

[Zaela]

Dunno, not sure what Duration Formula 8 is.

eqemu sez...


case 8:
i = level + 10;
return i < duration ? (i < 1 ? 1 : i) : duration;


Level + 10 ticks, up to a cap of <listed duration>. In other words, at most 70 ticks = 7 minutes. Probably why it's so short in the first place.

Who knows if that formula is right and/or period accurate, though.

[Treats]

eqemu sez...


case 8:
i = level + 10;
return i < duration ? (i < 1 ? 1 : i) : duration;


Level + 10 ticks, up to a cap of <listed duration>. In other words, at most 70 ticks = 7 minutes. Probably why it's so short in the first place.

Who knows if that formula is right and/or period accurate, though.

Alright.

Unless anyone can find a solid date when this spell was altered before Velious, it most likely will not be changed.

[Potus]

eqemu sez...


case 8:
i = level + 10;
return i < duration ? (i < 1 ? 1 : i) : duration;


Level + 10 ticks, up to a cap of <listed duration>. In other words, at most 70 ticks = 7 minutes. Probably why it's so short in the first place.

Who knows if that formula is right and/or period accurate, though.

Probably not because we have people before Velious saying it's 15 minutes.

[Treats]

eqemu sez...


case 8:
i = level + 10;
return i < duration ? (i < 1 ? 1 : i) : duration;


Level + 10 ticks, up to a cap of <listed duration>. In other words, at most 70 ticks = 7 minutes. Probably why it's so short in the first place.

Who knows if that formula is right and/or period accurate, though.

This is the correct formula.

[Scrubosaur]

No, it is not correct. The spell does not have the same duration as the lower level version. I already posted on the first page what it should be as there was not a change in length of pet haste spells until later on when they were all changed to 1 hour. The information on Lucy spell data is what it should be until all the spells were changed to 1 hour. You would be hard pressed to find buff spells in EQ that do not scale up by level which would be consistent with Lucy's data.

[Treats]

Read this thread again.

You are not understanding why the duration hasn't been changed to 15 minutes.

[koros]

Read this thread again.

You are not understanding why the duration hasn't been changed to 15 minutes.

The spdat on the Velious CD would have been serveral months old by the time Velious came out. It probably should be changed. Especially considering that comment that it was 15 minutes or so in oct 2000. It's possible it's been 15 minutes since Kunark went live. The Kunark cd spdat was highly inaccurate.

[Grimjaw]

^

[Treats]

Nope, like all broken Necromancer spell issues it has been ignored.

Here's a quote from 2000 saying it was 15 minutes. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010714082512/http://everlore.com/magic/Magic.asp?ID=6192&mode=details&spname=Augment+Death&type=)

Guess I should follow my own advice ><

This should be enough to get it changed to 15 minutes before Velious.

[Scrubosaur]

Originally Posted by Potus View Post
Here's a quote from 2000 saying it was 15 minutes.

The 15mins is consistent with Lucy spell data. Can we get a fix?

[Vicatin]

Agreed, it needs to be 15.

[kanras]

Pending update, Augment Death will last for 15 minutes and will cost 200 mana.

It was previously slated to be updated with velious.

[Daldaen]

Pending update, Augment Death will last for 15 minutes and will cost 200 mana.

It was previously slated to be updated with velious.

Many happy necromancers.

[Potus]

Pending update, Augment Death will last for 15 minutes and will cost 200 mana.

It was previously slated to be updated with velious.

Hurray! Kanras hero of all Necros.

[Grimjaw]

ya 5 min was rough especially when it takes 1 min wait to cast after scribing

[Yinaltin]

yay