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August
03-04-2014, 08:02 PM
As I'm scrolling on these threads, on my lunch hour, multiple times today I've had to quickly scroll past people's posts who contain GIFs of inappropriate content.

I know there's no nipple, but a GIF of a woman with large breasts, in a bikini, smashing them together, is not 'Safe for work' for me. Nor is a woman on all 4s shaking her bare ass.

Look, I can set a filter for imgur, and I can use adblock to block these type of ads. But, I have to see them at least once. I guess I can also disable sigs and avatars by default as well.

What's the consensus here? Don't infringe upon our rights to display slightly NSFW avatars/sigs? Should there be some moderation here? I'm at the point where I just have to, you know, actually work while I'm at work instead of browsing forums.

Not intended to be Rants and Flames material. Legitimate concern/question.

Asap
03-04-2014, 08:04 PM
Disable signatures.

Swish
03-04-2014, 08:06 PM
I think maybe 1 in 50 of my gifs are that kind of content partly for those reasons. Sad that the sig size got nerfed...some of the best SFW gifs out there look terrible shrunk down.

Swish
03-04-2014, 08:07 PM
Disable signatures.

http://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/leon.gif?w=627&h=350

Why not just disable the forums? They've lost so many features already :(

loramin
03-04-2014, 08:07 PM
I for one would like to see a "Safe for Work" restriction on gifs in the forums. I think a lot of people read the forums at work, and as you said it's a real issue when someone walks behind you.

To those who would say "but I like looking at bouncing jugs": if you want to see titties go to a porn site. This forum is (supposed to be) about Everquest.

August
03-04-2014, 08:12 PM
Disable signatures.

I mentioned that, however it's also avatars. Peatree had a certain asian bobbing around.

This is a forum about Everquest. Is it really too much to ask that sigs/avatars remain SFW?

There is a NSFW portion of the forums, it seems ludicrous to me that we allow NSFW material (including sigs) to wander outside of it.

BigHurb
03-04-2014, 08:15 PM
tight ass you can disable signatures AND avatars i have both off now its glorious ... thats not gonna solve ur problem being ashamed of ur body though

Asap
03-04-2014, 08:16 PM
I mentioned that, however it's also avatars. Peatree had a certain asian bobbing around.

This is a forum about Everquest. Is it really too much to ask that sigs/avatars remain SFW?

There is a NSFW portion of the forums, it seems ludicrous to me that we allow NSFW material (including sigs) to wander outside of it.

I see your point, but you could easily solve the issue by disabling signatures, instead of having someone heavily moderate the forums to make sure someone doesn't have a signature or avatar that offends you

August
03-04-2014, 08:20 PM
I wouldn't call it 'heavy moderation'. If someone links porn to the forum, it gets scoured.

There aren't a ton of offenders, mainly repeat ones that are typically banned repeatedly already.

Oh and to be clear, it's not 'offensive' to me. I'm not whining from a moralistic high ground. I'm whining from a place of 'I don't want to get fired because someone sees me looking at EVERQUEST forums when some boobs pop out.

BigHurb
03-04-2014, 08:21 PM
sounds like u hang around an oppressive environment... what makes that worth it do you have a good life

August
03-04-2014, 08:22 PM
I have a great life, BigHurb.

Sadly, to make a great income, you must subject yourself to rigors that involve not looking at pornographic material 24/7.

I'm not sure I want to work at the place that allows you to openly gaze at porn during business hours.

Hailto
03-04-2014, 08:22 PM
Or you could just do your fucking job and not browse p99 at work.

rollin5k
03-04-2014, 08:23 PM
Yea super annoying when I'm in line at the grocery store and a hi Res pic of giant tits shaking comes up. Just disabled all that shiz.

August
03-04-2014, 08:23 PM
Or you could just do your fucking job and not browse p99 at work.

Great feedback. I'm really glad you took the time to think it through.

Hailto
03-04-2014, 08:26 PM
Great feedback. I'm really glad you took the time to think it through.

Not sure what you expected by making a thread suggesting we censor the forums so you can more effectively fuck off at work.

lecompte
03-04-2014, 08:28 PM
I just have pictures turned off

Asap
03-04-2014, 08:28 PM
Well let me ask you this.

Is your job okay with you looking at video game forums while you're at work?

YendorLootmonkey
03-04-2014, 08:31 PM
This is why the economy is in the shitter. Stop goofing off and get back to work.

Rhambuk
03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
I have a 3 year old child, please disable all avatars/signatures because I don't want them to look over my shoulder and see inappropriate content.

Thank you.

Rhambuk
03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
aka i want the world to conform to my needs

August
03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Well let me ask you this.

Is your job okay with you looking at video game forums while you're at work?

Yes. (BTW My original posts explicitly states I was on my lunch break).

August
03-04-2014, 08:35 PM
Lot of gut reactions here 'don't restrict my freedoms ermagawd'.

The question is more general. Is this forum a place to have NSFW images outside of NSFW forums.

I already stated that I knew the options. Please read my OP. I stated I could use ad block, or I could disable signatures.

I wanted to get other people's opinions. I am not using venom, is it so hard to say 'i think people should be able to use whatever they want on their avatar'.

But let me pose this question. Say someone makes their signature a gif of a penis entering a vagina. Is this allowed? How far away is this from a girl mashing her tits together?

Sarajo
03-04-2014, 08:37 PM
Well let me ask you this.

Is your job okay with you looking at video game forums while you're at work?

That's what I don't understand, so I echo that question.
The job would be okay with paying you to browse forums about an MMO, but would take issue with paying you if one of those forums had someone wearing minimal clothes or not wearing clothes but still covering all of the naughty bits?

Swish
03-04-2014, 08:39 PM
I always thought one of the big pros of the P99 forums was the lack of heavy moderation.

As time has gone by we've lost forum tagging, our guestbooks (which had my sig collection in! /mad), the report function, and a bunch of stuff I probably didn't notice.

Won't be much longer before you'll see posts in Times New Roman 12pt because Verdana/Arial or something offends someone. Turn off your sigs/avatars in the options somewhere...leave the rest of us to enjoy what remains of a once legendary setup.

PS - bring back forum tags, they were harmless.

Rhambuk
03-04-2014, 08:40 PM
That's what I don't understand, so I echo that question.
The job would be okay with paying you to browse forums about an MMO, but would take issue with paying you if one of those forums had someone wearing minimal clothes or not wearing clothes but still covering all of the naughty bits?

Some places are, I used to work for an in home care agency and most of the time was just sitting around. I could play games, browse forums or whatever but im sure they would draw the line at porn.

August
03-04-2014, 08:41 PM
That's what I don't understand, so I echo that question.
The job would be okay with paying you to browse forums about an MMO, but would take issue with paying you if one of those forums had someone wearing minimal clothes or not wearing clothes but still covering all of the naughty bits?

I don't work in a service industry. I am not your cashier. I am not someone who interfaces with customers at all.

If my boss comes by and sees me on facebook, he doesn't care. I make all my deadlines, provide correct estimates, and deliver high quality solutions. He doesn't care if I surf reddit, facebook, or this random MMO forum while I'm doing other things. Believe it or not, there is a ton of 'small downtime' in my field.

If he came over and saw me looking at porn, that would be an issue.

And again, please stop using attacks on me and my exact situation.

Is it ok to have NSFW avatars/sigs when we have NSFW sections of the forum. That to me implies there's a time and place for NSFW stuff, according to our forum.

In the same vein about someone with the kid - Rhambuk - I know you were being facetious, however I think your situation is just as true. You can choose not to go to Rants, Flames, and NSFW. However, unless you disable signatures, you can't choose to see that content.

If porn/NSFW stuff gets posted outside of NSFW forum, it gets cleaned up. Sigs/Avatars are everywhere.

Asap
03-04-2014, 08:45 PM
It's not porn, its a gif of a woman in her bathing suit. That's drawing the line?

Swish
03-04-2014, 08:45 PM
August has a good point in a sense. More moderation for Eunomia? I sees it.

You realize there'll be a string of bans on red forum accounts followed by a page of threads about more oppression on red players? This is quite a Pandora's Box you're trying to open... :p

Hailto
03-04-2014, 08:47 PM
Guys, the needs of August clearly out-weigh the needs of the many. Mods, please meet with him immediately so we can more effectively tailor these forums to his needs.

August
03-04-2014, 08:48 PM
It's not porn, its a gif of a woman in her bathing suit. That's drawing the line?

you don't have to be dense about it. It's a woman, zoomed in on her breasts, in fabric that barely covers her naughty bits, massaging them.

It's sexually suggestive. It would NOT be appropriate in a work setting.

August
03-04-2014, 08:49 PM
Guys, the needs of August clearly out-weigh the needs of the many. Mods, please meet with him immediately so we can more effectively tailor these forums to his needs.

You're saying more about who you are rather than who I am. I'm perfectly fine with disabling everything solely for myself (and did so on my lunch break this morning as a stop-gap measure). I had a feeling (and I don't think I'm wrong) that I'm not the only one who runs into this issue.

So sorry for expressing an opinion that you don't share. Perhaps you could contribute constructively instead of coming off as a 'u mad bro?' type of guy.

Asap
03-04-2014, 08:53 PM
you don't have to be dense about it. It's a woman, zoomed in on her breasts, in fabric that barely covers her naughty bits, massaging them.

It's sexually suggestive. It would NOT be appropriate in a work setting.

and, imo, neither is facebook, video game forums, or anything of that nature while youre at work in a professional setting.

Hailto
03-04-2014, 08:54 PM
You're saying more about who you are rather than who I am. I'm perfectly fine with disabling everything solely for myself (and did so on my lunch break this morning as a stop-gap measure). I had a feeling (and I don't think I'm wrong) that I'm not the only one who runs into this issue.

So sorry for expressing an opinion that you don't share. Perhaps you could contribute constructively instead of coming off as a 'u mad bro?' type of guy.

If the content is an issue for you and you can disable it, then why are you still posting in this thread to blanket censor the whole forum? It doesn't even make sense, you don't censor everything because a few people have an issue with it. Again, there is a simple solution to your problem. Its pretty asinine to suggest censoring the whole forum so people who are reading about elf pixels during work don't get fired.

August
03-04-2014, 08:55 PM
and, imo, neither is facebook, video game forums, or anything of that nature while youre at work in a professional setting.

We've already gone over this. The issue is more about NSFW items being in a non-NSFW forum. Sigs/Avatars are omnipresent. the W in NSFW stands for WORK. It started as an acronym because people do stuff, at WORK, that may not be related to your job.

Please stop attacking my position directly, and discuss the matter at hand. The whole idea of 'you're at work do your job!' actually has nothing to do with what i'm talking about.

YendorLootmonkey
03-04-2014, 08:55 PM
you don't have to be dense about it. It's a woman, zoomed in on her breasts, in fabric that barely covers her naughty bits, massaging them.

It's sexually suggestive. It would NOT be appropriate in a work setting.

Please explain why this is not an option for those who would like to browse the content at work, risk-free?

http://i.imgur.com/PvgOgG6.jpg

Swish
03-04-2014, 08:57 PM
Before this goes longer than the "Free AON/COF thread"...

"User CP" > "Edit Options"... scroll down to "Thread Display Options", and uncheck sigs/avatars to disable them.

edit: Damn you Yendor, beat me to it :p

August
03-04-2014, 08:58 PM
If the content is an issue for you and you can disable it, then why are you still posting in this thread to blanket censor the whole forum? It doesn't even make sense, you don't censor everything because a few people have an issue with it. Again, there is a simple solution to your problem. Its pretty asinine to suggest censoring the whole forum so people who are reading about elf pixels during work don't get fired.

Yet if you post nudity in server chat, it would get removed.

To me that suggests there is a place for NSFW content -- in the NSFW forum. Sigs/Avatars are everywhere.

August
03-04-2014, 09:00 PM
Please explain why this is not an option for those who would like to browse the content at work, risk-free?

http://i.imgur.com/PvgOgG6.jpg

If you read my original post, I call that out as an option.

loramin
03-04-2014, 09:01 PM
Wow, the responses here are so out of whack. He's not censoring anything, he's saying "we already prohibit nudity, how about we prohibit almost nudity also". For most grown-ups, that's not a radical statement.

Hailto
03-04-2014, 09:04 PM
If you read my original post, I call that out as an option.

What is wrong with that option?

BigHurb
03-04-2014, 09:05 PM
OP is too proud to admit he created the problem by existing.

stop existing please or use the tools at your disposal to exist as you wish

YendorLootmonkey
03-04-2014, 09:06 PM
If you read my original post, I call that out as an option.

So, follow-on question: Why do you feel it is not a better idea to exercise that option than to attempt to dictate to the rest of us what we should and should not be able to have as content?

Asap
03-04-2014, 09:06 PM
Wow, the responses here are so out of whack. He's not censoring anything, he's saying "we already prohibit nudity, how about we prohibit almost nudity also". For most grown-ups, that's not a radical statement.

There is only 1 person here responding "out of whack".

This is the same thing as opting out of NSFW threads. Don't like the possibility of stumbling upon a girl shaking her ass in a thong? Disable the features so it NEVER happens. It's simple.

YendorLootmonkey
03-04-2014, 09:09 PM
Wow, the responses here are so out of whack. He's not censoring anything, he's saying "we already prohibit nudity, how about we prohibit almost nudity also". For most grown-ups, that's not a radical statement.

No, most grown-ups are simply turning the options for images off and allowing the rest of the community to either do the same, or view the content as they please.

August
03-04-2014, 09:09 PM
What is wrong with that option?

Nothing is wrong with that option. That's my point. I'm not a prude over here on my moralistic high ground.

We ban nudity on this forum except in NSFW, yet we have people pushing the limits of that in their avatars/sigs.

If I took a compilation of all the GIFs that I considered 'borderline' and posted them in server chat, would it get moved to RnF? That's the real question here. Should I need to disable ALL signatures/avatars (some of which I find useful, btw - like the ones that link to tools or spreadsheets or to past posts, or that provide me with information about someone like the list of their alts -- LIKE YOURS) because a few select individuals like to post nearly-nude GIFs in their signatures?

If there wasn't a RnF forum, I wouldn't even bring it up. Anything goes here. The fact that RnF exists makes me believe there is some desire to keep the majority of these forums free of NSFW material. Sigs and Avatars SEEM TO ME to be an exception to that.

Notice the title of my thread isn't 'CENSOR AVATARS AND SIGNATURES' , it is instead 'What's the story on Avatars and Signatures?' I'm open to the options available to me, but it occured to me that others felt the way that I do, and I don't think there's anything wrong about having civil discourse about the topic.

loramin
03-04-2014, 09:10 PM
There is only 1 person here responding "out of whack".

This is the same thing as opting out of NSFW threads. Don't like the possibility of stumbling upon a girl shaking her ass in a thong? Disable the features so it NEVER happens. It's simple.

Right, but then you'd miss out on Swish's daily gifs.

Can anyone explain why it's terrible to have nekid women, but it's wonderful to have bouncing boobs with a shirt on? Neither one has any relation to Everquest (unless you squint at Firiona Vie real hard).

It sounds like everyone in this thread wants to allow hard-core porn in signatures, with the only recourse being to disable sigs.

BigHurb
03-04-2014, 09:11 PM
man not sure if yer just thick or what

loramin
03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong about having civil discourse about the topic.

That was your first mistake: no discourse on this forum is civil ;)

August
03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
There is only 1 person here responding "out of whack".

This is the same thing as opting out of NSFW threads. Don't like the possibility of stumbling upon a girl shaking her ass in a thong? Disable the features so it NEVER happens. It's simple.

The problem here is that NSFW is basically a cess pit that I don't care anything about. However, I do care about signatures and avatars, especially when they contain information that I would like - such as links to resources, character information about a poster, or just funny to look at sigs. By opting out, I have to opt out of more than JUST NSFW sigs/avatars.

And again, we ban nudity / NSFW stuff from every corner of this forum except for the NSFW forum. Why is there an exception to sigs/avatars?

YendorLootmonkey
03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
I think we're all getting trolled hard.

BigHurb
03-04-2014, 09:13 PM
well i mean everyone pointed out pretty nicely but now its just the back and forth of the stubborn op... OP must be abacab

Hailto
03-04-2014, 09:17 PM
Nothing is wrong with that option. That's my point. I'm not a prude over here on my moralistic high ground.

We ban nudity on this forum except in NSFW, yet we have people pushing the limits of that in their avatars/sigs.

If I took a compilation of all the GIFs that I considered 'borderline' and posted them in server chat, would it get moved to RnF? That's the real question here. Should I need to disable ALL signatures/avatars (some of which I find useful, btw - like the ones that link to tools or spreadsheets or to past posts, or that provide me with information about someone like the list of their alts -- LIKE YOURS) because a few select individuals like to post nearly-nude GIFs in their signatures?

If there wasn't a RnF forum, I wouldn't even bring it up. Anything goes here. The fact that RnF exists makes me believe there is some desire to keep the majority of these forums free of NSFW material. Sigs and Avatars SEEM TO ME to be an exception to that.

Notice the title of my thread isn't 'CENSOR AVATARS AND SIGNATURES' , it is instead 'What's the story on Avatars and Signatures?' I'm open to the options available to me, but it occured to me that others felt the way that I do, and I don't think there's anything wrong about having civil discourse about the topic.

I see where you're coming from, the fact that RNF exists does lead one to believe we like to have a separation between nsfw and other content on the forums. My concern with this is that we don't really need more moderation on these forums. I think in a lot of cases (aside from outright nudity) what should be considered nsfw is often up for debate. I think if we were to make this the new standard on the forums there would be constant rule layering and people reporting other people for their signatures and avatars. That is simply not what we need the staff to be preoccupied with when its much easier to just suggest that person disable signatures and avatars in the User CP while they are at work.

Asap
03-04-2014, 09:17 PM
It sounds like everyone in this thread wants to allow hard-core porn in signatures, with the only recourse being to disable sigs.

Please link me to the sigs/avatars where there is hardcore porn

August
03-04-2014, 09:18 PM
well i mean everyone pointed out pretty nicely but now its just the back and forth of the stubborn op... OP must be abacab

Don't know who abacab is. I've had people bring up points and I've provided my retort.

No one has explained to me why it's ok to ban NSFW material from every corner of the forum but a specific one (RnF), yet it's OK to allow sigs/avatars contain NSFW material.

Is the equivalent then, to the minds of the opposition, that RnF = Sigs/Avatars?

loramin
03-04-2014, 09:22 PM
Please link me to the sigs/avatars where there is hardcore porn

No you misunderstood my point. My point is, if you followed the logic in most of the posts here, it would lead to allowing porn. Just replace "bouncing boobs" (or anything to that effect) with "porn" in all of the responses and you'll see the exact same logic applies.

Which gets back to the one thing no one seems to be able to explain: why do we ban porn but not bouncing boobs? Both are clearly designed to arouse, neither has anything to do with Everquest, and if we're all adults here, and we can all just disable sigs, why not just allow both of them?

August
03-04-2014, 09:23 PM
I see where you're coming from, the fact that RNF exists does lead one to believe we like to have a separation between nsfw and other content on the forums. My concern with this is that we don't really need more moderation on these forums. I think in a lot of cases (aside from outright nudity) what should be considered nsfw is often up for debate. I think if we were to make this the new standard on the forums there would be constant rule layering and people reporting other people for their signatures and avatars. That is simply not what we need the staff to be preoccupied with when its much easier to just suggest that person disable signatures and avatars in the User CP while they are at work.

So the only hard stop for you would be actual nudity? I get the slippery slope aspect, but even now I can probably name you the 5 people that I think are violating this rule. It doesn't seem like a widespread problem, just a reoccurring problem with a select set of people.

For what it's worth, I can think of quite a few things that would be more prurient than just a naked set of breasts.

Ahldagor
03-04-2014, 09:23 PM
Don't know who abacab is. I've had people bring up points and I've provided my retort.

No one has explained to me why it's ok to ban NSFW material from every corner of the forum but a specific one (RnF), yet it's OK to allow sigs/avatars contain NSFW material.

Is the equivalent then, to the minds of the opposition, that RnF = Sigs/Avatars?

it's because of the stated user options of showing or not showing signatures or avatars. because someone doesn't explore the tools before them (ignorance) doesn't mean that they should be catered to. if those options were not available to users then there'd be a better debate that could initiate some course of action by the wonderful folks that run this project.

August
03-04-2014, 09:24 PM
it's because of the stated user options of showing or not showing signatures or avatars. because someone doesn't explore the tools before them (ignorance) doesn't mean that they should be catered to. if those options were not available to users then there'd be a better debate that could initiate some course of action by the wonderful folks that run this project.

Read my OP. I am not ignorant of the options available to me. Thanks for chiming in.

Ahldagor
03-04-2014, 09:27 PM
Read my OP. I am not ignorant of the options available to me. Thanks for chiming in.

then you have a weak ground to debate from and come off as whining which is like blood in shark infested waters here.

August
03-04-2014, 09:27 PM
anyways guys i'm going out for the night, i'll check back on this thread later. thank you everyone who provided constructive, thought-provoking responses.

radditsu
03-04-2014, 09:33 PM
Yall postin in a troll thread dawg. Seems awful Lrony in here

Swish
03-04-2014, 10:24 PM
What about this?

http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/gurl-let-me-see-dat-ass-mufasa-gif.gif

http://i.imgur.com/dwXshld.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/dwXshld.gif

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/smack+dat+ass.+lol_fdf123_3458233.gif

http://i.imgur.com/PbxjR.gif

Atmas
03-04-2014, 10:26 PM
I just have everything disabled. It really only takes one gay porn spam to make me not care about people's custom sigs. I will click an image link if it gets enough lols.

Ahldagor
03-04-2014, 10:28 PM
I just have everything disabled. It really only takes one gay porn spam to make me not care about people's custom sigs. I will click an image link if it gets enough lols.

a responsible user. what op fails to be.

Ajkuhuun
03-04-2014, 10:33 PM
I'm fairly sure I'm one of the offenders but I'll throw in my two cents. Going to these boards I think it's fairly safe to say that an overabundance of moderation would be met with hostility. Folks seem to enjoy the general NSFW environment here and that's cool but I'm with you some things are just plain offensive to me personally, when those images/sigs pop up I just use adblock. It's quick and easy, in your case I would recommend just disabling all sigs and avatars at work, it's just safer that way. I realize you're aware of this option, I just think heavier moderation would go over like a lead balloon.

Fame
03-04-2014, 10:35 PM
http://images.rapgenius.com/93vkzoucb8h66wuslvngqj1rp.277x182x1.jpg

tristantio
03-04-2014, 10:49 PM
I just use elinks

Swish
03-04-2014, 10:55 PM
Waiting for someone to say they view the forum on their typewriter ;)

Ahldagor
03-04-2014, 10:56 PM
Waiting for someone to say they view the forum on their typewriter ;)

http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/iTypewriter.jpg

so mad at that pic...

Shaakglith12194
03-04-2014, 10:59 PM
If I took a compilation of all the GIFs that I considered 'borderline' and posted them in server chat, would it get moved to RnF?

Yes it would get moved to RnF because the server chat forum is for chatting about the server. I would be VERY surprised to find anyone under 18 playing this emulator, so the chance of a child seeing one of these NSFW sigs is extremely minimal at worst. I'd be willing to guess they probably don't use the forums, as well. If you're surfing forums at work, I'd say use the options available to you. Would also say, is that what you should be doing on your downtime at work? If you want to see sigs, wait til you get home. The lack of extreme moderation is one of the things that makes this forum entertaining to read, otherwise it'd be one well-written RP post every three months, new players introducing themselves, players talking about quests/NPCs/classes, and raid/bug discussion. If those are the only things you talk about, what could possibly be funny in a sig for you to click on? These forums are much more than that.

EverQuest has always been a social game, and as long as the game has been around, forums have been a part of that socialization. Everyone who played back in the day that wasn't an adult then, is an adult now, even if we don't act like it all the time. That's like when you're at a bar that serves food and its 10pm and someone brings in their kid because the place also serves appetizers, so you and the group of people who were laughing, cussing, and sharing raunchy stories suddenly have to censor yourselves because the mother of the year and little junior crapshispants will be offended by the content of your conversation.

Think of it like this, you could go eat bar food on your lunch break, but if your boss sees you at the bar, even if you're not drinking, would it go well for you? Use the options available and let adults be, man.

Swish
03-04-2014, 11:01 PM
http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/iTypewriter.jpg

so mad at that pic...

That must have won some hipster awards :rolleyes:

Ajkuhuun
03-04-2014, 11:03 PM
My niece would love that, she collects typewriters. ..for some odd reason.

Jowston
03-05-2014, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't call it 'heavy moderation'. If someone links porn to the forum, it gets scoured.

There aren't a ton of offenders, mainly repeat ones that are typically banned repeatedly already.

Oh and to be clear, it's not 'offensive' to me. I'm not whining from a moralistic high ground. I'm whining from a place of 'I don't want to get fired because someone sees me looking at EVERQUEST forums when some boobs pop out.


Then actually do work at work, or get a better job.

Don't tread on me.

kylok
03-05-2014, 12:23 AM
Or you could just do your fucking job and not browse p99 at work.

jarshale
03-05-2014, 01:49 AM
I wish they required us to post in character all the time. If they did that then I'd support no suggestive sigs/avatars. But since they don't it's whatever.


How is posting IC/OOC related to suggestive sigs or avatars?

Ajkuhuun
03-05-2014, 02:01 AM
How is posting IC/OOC related to suggestive sigs or avatars?

Was actually wondering this myself. In terms of "in character" each of my characters has their own personality, some may be keen on suggestive poses, some not so much. I'm sure other folks who RP may feel the same way.

Faerie
03-05-2014, 02:05 AM
How is posting IC/OOC related to suggestive sigs or avatars?

My name is going to be Ashe and im playing a female human ranger of Karana, here's my story:

She is a direct descendant of Avarosa - one of three legendary sisters who each claimed dominion over the scattered tribes dwelling in the icy tundra of northern Everfrost. Ashe mirrors her ancestor's unparalleled mastery of the bow, earning her the title of ''The Frost Archer'' the way Avarosa did during her era. Ashe is a literal Princess amongst her people, though she prefers to be addressed by outsiders as her tribal title rather than any form of royal moniker. There are those in Halas, however, that would prefer to address Ashe as the ''late'' Frost Archer; the other two tribes that are descendants from the Three Sisters are historically sworn enemies of Ashe and her people. Having survived more than one assassination attempt in her life, Ashe is always aware of her surroundings regardless of where she is.

Ashe originally came to Surefall Glades in service of the Karana druids, seeking enough influence and favor to finally bring peace to her realm - one that has endured civil strife since Avarosa and the Time of the Three Sisters. With countless victories under her belt, she has started to put the influence she has earned in Antonica to use. Rumors abound that Ashe has begun to associate herself with fellow ranger Tryndamere outside of the Everfrost Peaks. While she denies such talk as frivolous, all eyes will remain on Ashe now that her success in the battles of antonica may finally allow her to restore lasting peace to her people.

Sig:

http://i.imgur.com/IeCQiB9.gif

Faerie
03-05-2014, 02:09 AM
Also this made me laugh:

http://i.imgur.com/j7LNdvJ.gif

jarshale
03-05-2014, 02:11 AM
I bet I could write a character background that involved GIFs of bouncing fat asses somehow.

Wudan
03-05-2014, 04:10 AM
This is why the economy is in the shitter. Stop goofing off and get back to work.

No dude, the economy is in shitter because of all the wars and invasions. Please get your head out of your ass, ty

BigHurb
03-05-2014, 04:14 AM
war is good business what we need is a bigger war really

myriverse
03-05-2014, 08:12 AM
The problem here is that NSFW is basically a cess pit that I don't care anything about. However, I do care about signatures and avatars, especially when they contain information that I would like - such as links to resources, character information about a poster, or just funny to look at sigs. By opting out, I have to opt out of more than JUST NSFW sigs/avatars.

And again, we ban nudity / NSFW stuff from every corner of this forum except for the NSFW forum. Why is there an exception to sigs/avatars?
There is no exception. What we have here is a disagreement over what is NSFW. IMO, any NSFW avatars and sigs get dealt with very quickly. A couple of breasts in a bathing suit will never, ever be NSFW.

If your opinion is different, then take steps to restrict your content. Simple problem. Simple solution.

I wish they required us to post in character all the time. If they did that then I'd support no suggestive sigs/avatars. But since they don't it's whatever.
How the heck would that work when many have 20-odd characters? Holy schizoid!

And some characters might even be more debauched.

Clark
03-05-2014, 08:15 AM
I know there's no nipple, but a GIF of a woman with large breasts, in a bikini, smashing them together, is not 'Safe for work' for me. Nor is a woman on all 4s shaking her bare ass.

lol

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 09:35 AM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2fGj4CDyfNol1bMeKaKGzTDzNoqLnO vtfjwPC-Ni6fRKHja5aPHTLMQ

Juhstin
03-05-2014, 09:52 AM
Also this made me laugh:

http://i.imgur.com/j7LNdvJ.gif

I didn't notice that he tripped her at first.

LAWL

Bill Tetley
03-05-2014, 09:55 AM
sounds like op has issues with sexuality imo

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 10:29 AM
anyone trying to make OP feel bad for voicing an opinion/concern is a fucking moron. Seriously. This is a discussion forum, for discussion.

I for one agree with him. Existence of filters doesn't give anyone the right to post whatever they want. I for one find some sigs entirely inappropriate (looking at you gaffin).

All you people telling him turn them off because you shouldn't have to change your browsing habits for him are hypocrites. Basically you are telling him he has to change his browsing preferences and filter his experience (sometimes sigs have useful information from people who actually constructively contribute to the project, surprising i know.) because your preference to browse as you please and... freely have OBVIOUSLY inappropriate signatures and avatars? Fucking childish.

Of course we can continue the personal attacks..but I thought that's what RnF was for.

Swish
03-05-2014, 10:33 AM
The bottom line is that tighter moderation would be a bad thing, and you can turn off sigs/avatars/pictures/RnF if you want to.

If that wasn't the case, this thread would come across less like trolling.

webrunner5
03-05-2014, 10:37 AM
I agree with the OP. Some people on here have went WAY over the edge. I really doubt if they had a 8 year old daughter or a wife that they would really like them to see what they posted. Well guess what some people on here DO have a 8 year old daughter and wives that look at pictures and gifs on here.

So if I was king there would be a LOT of ban hammers coming down. I think it is getting out of hand. I hope they moderate this crap and perma ban people who continue to abuse it. Some people on here need to grow up. :mad:

Swish
03-05-2014, 10:39 AM
The only gif I ever got asked to take down is this one:-

http://i.imgur.com/iMt5zno.gif

...so I did. Who'd ban me for it?

Fett
03-05-2014, 10:49 AM
anyone trying to make OP feel bad for voicing an opinion/concern is a fucking moron. Seriously. This is a discussion forum, for discussion.

I for one agree with him. Existence of filters doesn't give anyone the right to post whatever they want. I for one find some sigs entirely inappropriate (looking at you gaffin).

All you people telling him turn them off because you shouldn't have to change your browsing habits for him are hypocrites. Basically you are telling him he has to change his browsing preferences and filter his experience (sometimes sigs have useful information from people who actually constructively contribute to the project, surprising i know.) because your preference to browse as you please and... freely have OBVIOUSLY inappropriate signatures and avatars? Fucking childish.

Of course we can continue the personal attacks..but I thought that's what RnF was for.

Except you (and OP) are in the minority. So you, the minority are asking the majority to change their habits, when you already have all the tools you need to make these pictures go away. If they offend you, just turn them off. It's that simple.

Creating rules to control people only leads to a slippery slope to create more rules to control more people. It should only be done done when things are absolutely necessary, and since you can already turn off the offensive pictures, I personally don't see it as absolutely necessary.

webrunner5
03-05-2014, 10:59 AM
Except you (and OP) are in the minority. So you, the minority are asking the majority to change their habits, when you already have all the tools you need to make these pictures go away. If they offend you, just turn them off. It's that simple.

Creating rules to control people only leads to a slippery slope to create more rules to control more people. It should only be done done when things are absolutely necessary, and since you can already turn off the offensive pictures, I personally don't see it as absolutely necessary.

Real life is FULL of rules. Get over it.

Sarajo
03-05-2014, 11:00 AM
I don't work in a service industry. I am not your cashier. I am not someone who interfaces with customers at all.

Don't accuse someone of derailing the thread or talking about something that's completely not the issue when this is your response. I said nothing about you being in a service industry, nor about being my cashier, nor about interfacing with customers at all. I couldn't be less interested. It is clear from your posts that you have a boss, and the boss compensates you for your work, and your boss monitors your internet use to some degree, and those are the only working assumptions I made in replying to you.

If my boss comes by and sees me on facebook, he doesn't care. I make all my deadlines, provide correct estimates, and deliver high quality solutions. He doesn't care if I surf reddit, facebook, or this random MMO forum while I'm doing other things. Believe it or not, there is a ton of 'small downtime' in my field. If he came over and saw me looking at porn, that would be an issue.


I don't know what you do for a living, other than provide your time and work to someone else for monetary compensation. Also, the boss doesn't mind if you use the internet for non-business reasons such as social media or other personal interests. However, they don't want to pay you to look at pornographic content. I get that. I don't know if you've noticed, but in the entire history of the internet employers have struggled with how to deal with this issue; porn can show up at the most innocent-sounding URLs, filenames, or search engine searches. Generally, I.T. departments are in charge of enforcing whatever acceptable use policy the employer has. I.T. departments know that accidents happen when using the internet, such as pop-up windows containing pornographic content or pornographic pictures/slideshows/videos being emailed around with innocent-sounding filenames. Generally, those who do monitor won't take action just because the content shows up on your screen; they'll take action if you spend more than a few seconds exploring that content.[/QUOTE]


And again, please stop using attacks on me and my exact situation.

Every example you provided of why borderline NSFW content should be banned was drawn from your own experience, opinion, and exact situation. Sorry that disagreeing with you is perceived as a personal attack. But if I answer your question about whether this content should be allowed in avatars and signature blocks, you'll undoubtedly tie it back into your exact situation, so I don't see why you mind.

Is it ok to have NSFW avatars/sigs when we have NSFW sections of the forum. That to me implies there's a time and place for NSFW stuff, according to our forum.

It is not okay. You have a different definition of NSFW than the moderators, though. But again, since your personal definition and needs are different than the moderators, maybe you should take the (sound) advice that 7 pages of replies have given you: Either stop browsing these forums at work or disable pictures. If you got disciplined or terminated for porn because of a woman in a bikini showing up on your screen while the boss was observing you (whether over your shoulder or remotely), do you really think any of that accountability will fall on the person who posted that content? Is it their fault that you chose to access it while at work, when you had the choice to not access it or block the pictures, however inconvenient it may be to not see the useful parts of a signature? I invite you to consult with any lawyer or paralegal at a practice that deals with wrongful termination. Make up a story about how you got terminated because someone posted pornographic content in a forum you were viewing while at work, which violated the acceptable internet use policy at work, and you were fired. Then ask if you have a case, and if the moderators of the forum, the owners of the website, or the forum user who posted the content is in a legally actionable position.

I know there's no nipple, but a GIF of a woman with large breasts, in a bikini, smashing them together, is not 'Safe for work' for me.

Breasts: Not a sex organ. They're literally lumps of fat with milk glands made to feed offspring. Stimulating the nipple releases oxytocin, no one knows why, but it's generally thought that this was a way to make breastfeeding screaming, pooping, insomniac offspring more appealing so that the race wouldn't die off. So complaining about a picture of something that is non-sexual(the nipple being the closest to having some kind of possible sexual function) , and still covered with some measure of clothing, is not a problem; your attitude toward womens' bodies is. This goes for the bit about the woman on her hands and knees, shaking her ass: Was she having sex or stimulating her (non-exposed) sexual organs in any way?
e.g.
http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan//files/2010/10/cr_mega_222_cafe.jpg
It's a woman's bare hand. I saw someone use one of those on a man's penis in a video once. Hands are sexual. BAN ALL SIGS AND AVATARS BECAUSE MY BOSS MIGHT THINK I'M LOOKING AT PORN

Unferth
03-05-2014, 11:10 AM
This thread really needs to die. I don't understand why there is still discussion about this.

The most elegant solution to the problem OP posted was already implemented before OP posted. Use the user options to turn off images/signatures/avatars. It literally takes 2 seconds an it streamlines the entire forum to be OK at work. If this function exists, why even suggest the possibility of blanket-banning NSFW images at all?

I hate to use such a crude analogy, but that's like having the
most effective contraceptives at your disposal and still asking if abstinence is the most logical choice

baalzy
03-05-2014, 12:32 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

Content
Any threads that contain content unsafe for work should be marked as NSFW.
Avatars and Signatures
All Avatars and signatures must not contain any explicit or NSFW content. Signatures must be no higher than 150 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. If there are multiple images, or images as well as text, the combination must not exceed the height of what a single 200 pixel image would cover.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 12:36 PM
If this function exists, why even suggest the possibility of blanket-banning NSFW images at all?

This is the logic that keeps this thread alive. That is a very short sighted and asinine way to deal with it. Bad word filter means that people can just use all the offensive bad words they want right? Wrong.

He shouldn't have to turn off a useful feature of the forum because 2 or 3 people want to have (subjective) inappropriate (18+) content on every single one of their posts. Interesting how there are people are defending it, yet these aren't even the ones the thread is directed towards. Why do you even give a damn? It has nothing to do with you. Sorry if I am in support of trampling your p1999 forum Bill of Rights.

There are threads in RnF dedicated to these kind of things. Let them post it there if they need to show it off.

Its not like moderating this is a big problem. There are 1 or 2 people doing it, ask them to stop please and put their (seemingly necessary) 18+ content in the designated area. BUT OMGZ THEY ARE ASKING MODERATORS TO MODERATE. Deal with it.

Here's the point, or TLDR for those lacking reading comprehension:

The image in question (woman on all 4s shaking her ass) is clearly inappropriate, and therefore should not be allowed anywhere else except RnF.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 12:39 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3329014/mind-blown-o.gif

Swish
03-05-2014, 12:43 PM
Just turn off the signatures. Apparently I'm promoting animal cruelty in my current one.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 12:57 PM
wall of text

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/samantha-power.gif

your attitude toward womens' bodies is.

wat? are you fucking seriously making this claim?

This goes for the bit about the woman on her hands and knees, shaking her ass: Was she having sex or stimulating her (non-exposed) sexual organs in any way?

You didn't do a good job of proving that its appropriate. 99% of workplaces will find that inappropriate. It should be removed.

myriverse
03-05-2014, 12:58 PM
Real life is FULL of rules. Get over it.
Each community has its own rules. Get over it.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 12:59 PM
Each community has its own rules. Get over it.

and you seem to not have read them. take a look at baalzy's post. maybe then you will take your foot out of your mouth.

Juhstin
03-05-2014, 01:00 PM
http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan//files/2010/10/cr_mega_222_cafe.jpg
It's a woman's bare hand. I saw someone use one of those on a man's penis in a video once. Hands are sexual. BAN ALL SIGS AND AVATARS BECAUSE MY BOSS MIGHT THINK I'M LOOKING AT PORN

Chortled

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 01:07 PM
Except you (and OP) are in the minority. So you, the minority are asking the minority to change their habits...

ftfy

There are like 2 offenders. Why all these people, including yourself, are defending them i do not understand. Your rights are not being trampled. You are not being asked to change your habits. You are not being forced to do something you don't want to. Frankly you are not affected by this at all. Why you defend it.. i don't know.

I am here because I expect there to be enforcement of posted forum rules.

There is no reason why that image should be allowed in server chat. One of you naysayers please provide us with a good reason why this isn't against the posted rules. Sarajo tried, and in my opinion...failed.

myriverse
03-05-2014, 01:13 PM
and you seem to not have read them. take a look at baalzy's post. maybe then you will take your foot out of your mouth.
The problem is what is deemed NSFW is not universal. No place I've ever worked in my life would find those pictures objectionable.

loramin
03-05-2014, 01:15 PM
This thread really needs to die. I don't understand why there is still discussion about this.

How about because, even after pages and pages of responses, no one has a single answer to my point yet:


Which gets back to the one thing no one seems to be able to explain: why do we ban porn but not bouncing boobs? Both are clearly designed to arouse, neither has anything to do with Everquest, and if we're all adults here, and we can all just disable sigs, why not just allow both of them?

I'd honestly like to see an (intelligent, reasonable) answer to that question.

Swish
03-05-2014, 01:16 PM
RnF worthy now I think, trolls identified.

kylok
03-05-2014, 01:16 PM
There is no reason why that image should be allowed in server chat. One of you naysayers please provide us with a good reason why this isn't against the posted rules. Sarajo tried, and in my opinion...failed.

As was stated before NSFW is not defined in said rules, therefore it is at the discretion of the moderators to enforce the rule as they see fit. Considering most of these "offensive" signatures have been around for quite some time, it is likely the mods don't feel they are NSFW.

It's a fine line, clearly. However I obviously agree with the people who feel that these signatures aren't that heinous. We, the community, are not the ones to draw any lines in the sand and say what is and what is not appropriate. I would be very, very sad if by virtue of someones jimmies being rustled that Cucumbers had to change his sig, many lulz have been had from this man.

Furthermore, if in real life I had the option to not view things I did not want to see in a very easy and straightforward manner I would just turn that shit off and never look back; definitely would not stand on a soapbox and profess about how I think my environment should change because I don't like what I see.

myriverse
03-05-2014, 01:19 PM
And honestly, I dispute that either the avatar or sig exists to arouse. It's there to amuse and nothing less. No one is getting their jollies from looking at a stupid avatar. Frankly, Swish's insane cat is more of a turn-on.

Shaakglith12194
03-05-2014, 01:20 PM
ftfy

There are like 2 offenders. Why all these people, including yourself, are defending them i do not understand. Your rights are not being trampled. You are not being asked to change your habits. You are not being forced to do something you don't want to. Frankly you are not affected by this at all. Why you defend it.. i don't know.

I am here because I expect there to be enforcement of posted forum rules.

There is no reason why that image should be allowed in server chat. One of you naysayers please provide us with a good reason why this isn't against the posted rules. Sarajo tried, and in my opinion...failed.

It's not against posted rules because it's not explicit and it's not NSFW. The sig in question of the woman on all 4's shaking her ass, she's covered, not touching herself, and not having sex. OP thinks it's NSFW because of where she works, while most of the rest of the community has different standards. The vast majority is fine with it, while the minority is not. There being an option to not see it for the minority is why people are defending it. Whether or not 99 out of 100 employers would think it's NSFW, the community majority is ok with it and there's an option for the rest.

Your argument is basically that you shouldn't have to click three check boxes because you're afraid of missing out, so the rest of the community should conform to your standards.

Swish
03-05-2014, 01:20 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=22486&dateline=1391710852

That avatar clearly depicts a dude smoking a joint, hypocrisy. I don't want my non-existant 8 year old kids to see that.

Ofaelol
03-05-2014, 01:22 PM
Just disable sigs?

Right, but then you'd miss out on Swish's daily gifs.

Swish
03-05-2014, 01:23 PM
Even if they disabled sigs I've still got the "Everyone loves gifs!" thread in RnF.

Oh wait, you'd have to read RnF... :D

Gaffin 7.0
03-05-2014, 01:30 PM
you mad?

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 01:44 PM
OP, you can put offenders on your ignore list. Won't be hard since there are only like 2 or 3. This way you can still see useful sigs. In all reality, Gaffin doesn't provide any meaningful content so you won't be missing a thing ignoring him. Just need to add 8.0 when 7.0 gets banned.

tristantio
03-05-2014, 01:48 PM
Everyone cool if I use goatse as my sig?

Fett
03-05-2014, 02:03 PM
Everyone cool if I use goatse as my sig?

Around here, I thought this was not just cool, but actively encouraged.

Shaakglith12194
03-05-2014, 02:08 PM
Everyone cool if I use goatse as my sig?

Go for it. You don't have the guts.

Fett
03-05-2014, 02:13 PM
Look guys, I know before I said that I was against making unnecessary rules and all that jazz. The truth is I also read these forums at work, and am running into the same sort of issues as OP. Since I'm new here I was trying to be one of you guys and go with the crowd, but I feel I should really make my position known on this.

These sig images that are being posted are really NSFW, and quite frankly degrading towards women. We live in a society where images of this nature have become the norm, and that is just not acceptable. We should all be taking a stand against these images being posted with such frequency, and the frank disregard of respect towards our better halves.

I actually have run into this problem on other forums I browse as well, and had previously made a Youtube video rant about it. If anyone's interested they can view it here. (http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)

I've received a fair amount of hate comments on that video. If you have any reasonable thought out arguments to make, I'd love to hear it there to offset some of the crap I've received.

Swish
03-05-2014, 02:16 PM
View the forum on your phones instead? Forumrunner etc?

There's always alternatives.

Shaakglith12194
03-05-2014, 02:23 PM
Look guys, I know before I said that I was against making unnecessary rules and all that jazz. The truth is I also read these forums at work, and am running into the same sort of issues as OP. Since I'm new here I was trying to be one of you guys and go with the crowd, but I feel I shouldn't really make my position known on this.

These sig images that are being posted are really NSFW, and quite frankly degrading towards women. We live in a society where images of this nature have become the norm, and that is just not acceptable. We should all be taking a stand against these images being posted with such frequency, and the frank disregard of respect towards our better halves.

I actually have run into this problem on other forums I browse as well, and had previously made a Youtube video rant about it. If anyone's interested they can view it here. (http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)

Degrading towards women? No one is forcing them to do anything. Maybe I'm wrong, I kind of thought women were thinking, reasoning human beings with the ability to decide what situations they place themselves in and in what ways they allow themselves to be treated. Why is a suggestive picture of a woman degrading but a suggestive picture of a male is not? Get off your soap box, women are people, not helpless creatures that need to be protected from the world.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 02:27 PM
ya know when I turn on the tv and theres a show I don't like or find offensive i change the channel...

Swish
03-05-2014, 02:29 PM
Troll thread of the week in any case.

First world problems if you don't have a smartphone/ipad type thing with 4g to view the P99 forums on.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 02:31 PM
Degrading towards women? No one is forcing them to do anything. Maybe I'm wrong, I kind of thought women were thinking, reasoning human beings with the ability to decide what situations they place themselves in and in what ways they allow themselves to be treated. Why is a suggestive picture of a woman degrading but a suggestive picture of a male is not? Get off your soap box, women are people, not helpless creatures that need to be protected from the world.

you didnt watch his video obviously

Shaakglith12194
03-05-2014, 02:37 PM
you didnt watch his video obviously

Yeah, I didn't watch it until you posted this. Figured why watch a neckbeard rant about something idiotic? Derp!

Juhstin
03-05-2014, 02:38 PM
Just nuke the forums, nothing but people crying 24/7 about raid rotation or PvP butthurts.

baalzy
03-05-2014, 02:47 PM
Anyone who doesn't think Gaffins signature is sexual in nature must be a eunuch.

Nocte
03-05-2014, 02:49 PM
I disabled signatures and avatars years ago and I haven't looked back once. I don't know (or care to know) all the drama behind everyone's chat window screenshots and forum quotes, and I certainly don't want to scroll through half a window of gifs, quotes, character lists, pie recipes, etc just to read a one-line post.

This is glorious. (The forums with no signatures/avatars, not the actual conversation...)
http://i.imgur.com/ExA8z0f.png

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 03:10 PM
i have to say i think i like it.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 03:10 PM
i have to say i think i like it.

You can't get rid of ricky ravine

Swish
03-05-2014, 03:12 PM
I disabled signatures and avatars years ago and I haven't looked back once. I don't know (or care to know) all the drama behind everyone's chat window screenshots and forum quotes, and I certainly don't want to scroll through half a window of gifs, quotes, character lists, pie recipes, etc just to read a one-line post.

This is glorious. (The forums with no signatures/avatars, not the actual conversation...)
http://i.imgur.com/ExA8z0f.png

No avatars, no gifs, google chrome.

Pure scummery ;)

baalzy
03-05-2014, 03:15 PM
I disabled signatures and avatars years ago and I haven't looked back once. I don't know (or care to know) all the drama behind everyone's chat window screenshots and forum quotes, and I certainly don't want to scroll through half a window of gifs, quotes, character lists, pie recipes, etc just to read a one-line post.

This is glorious. (The forums with no signatures/avatars, not the actual conversation...)
http://i.imgur.com/ExA8z0f.png

See, most people have signatures/avatars that I actually find amusing. However, because a couple people like to have a woman posed on a bed acting like she's taking it from behind while wearing lingere or an asian woman playing with her boobs or some borderline hentai anime pic, I have to turn them all off even when I'm replying to a bug thread or a server chat question about what equipment to buy as a new player.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 03:15 PM
You can't get rid of ricky ravine

fuck off conky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=158_j5kCQBU

BigHurb
03-05-2014, 03:17 PM
^ make that two of us

Fett
03-05-2014, 03:21 PM
Troll thread of the week in any case.

First world problems if you don't have a smartphone/ipad type thing with 4g to view the P99 forums on.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

tristantio
03-05-2014, 03:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zea7ZTw.png?1

August
03-05-2014, 03:31 PM
I'd like to thank everyone who commented constructively and had reasonable arguments.

I think there's merit to both sides of the argument, and I think there's been a lot of popular argument styles here meant to derail what I was trying to impart.

Please keep in mind that the browsing habits of each side are trying to influence the others. One side doesn't want their freedoms restricted, so forces the other to disable part of the forums. The other side wants some things (sigs/avatars) to be less explicit (thus censoring those users) so they can view the forums without a handicap. Both sides create a censor, and the logic that one is self imposed doesn't really hold water because the users who have to disable them have stated that they wish they didn't have to.

Both sides of the argument cause the others to give something up. One side is a minority (or at least, a vocal minority). I had already disabled forum sigs/avatars prior to my post for my own protection, but wanted to have a civil discussion regarding the state of sigs/avatars, which I feel like is accomplished.

I won't be popping back in because frankly, it has reached RnF levels where I hoped it would not. Special shout out to Hailto who started on this thread rather derogatory but ended up contributing in a compelling manner.

Nocte
03-05-2014, 03:37 PM
No avatars, no gifs, google chrome.

Pure scummery ;)

I still see the thread-relevant gifs that get posted, just not the same stale signature/avatar ones.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 03:39 PM
fuck off conky

http://comedyforanimators.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BubblesAndConkey.jpg

Oh, those were excellent negotiation tactics you used, Patrick Swayze.

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 03:43 PM
Oh, those were excellent negotiation tactics you used, Patrick Swayze.

one of the best shows ever. i miss those days of smoking a bit with some friends and all gathering round a too small television to watch. sigh life goes on.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 03:46 PM
heh when it first came out I thought it was the stupidest show ever and hated watching any of it. A few weeks ago a buddy put on an episode after a football game and i lost it, watched the whole series and the movie in a week lol.

still have liquor day to watch but heard its not that great, LOVE THAT SHOW and its even better that ricky and bubbles are from bangor maine (about 30 minute drive from where i live) so the last season with the swayze train and them going to bangor talking about maine was hilarious to me since i've never really heard maine mentioned in a show before let alone the city im next too ha

jaybone
03-05-2014, 03:48 PM
As I'm scrolling on these threads, on my lunch hour, multiple times today I've had to quickly scroll past people's posts who contain GIFs of inappropriate content.

I know there's no nipple, but a GIF of a woman with large breasts, in a bikini, smashing them together, is not 'Safe for work' for me. Nor is a woman on all 4s shaking her bare ass.

Look, I can set a filter for imgur, and I can use adblock to block these type of ads. But, I have to see them at least once. I guess I can also disable sigs and avatars by default as well.

What's the consensus here? Don't infringe upon our rights to display slightly NSFW avatars/sigs? Should there be some moderation here? I'm at the point where I just have to, you know, actually work while I'm at work instead of browsing forums.

Not intended to be Rants and Flames material. Legitimate concern/question.
You got to realize dude a lot of these people are 35 year old virgins who haven't left their house waiting for track to spawn for the 200th time.

Fame
03-05-2014, 03:57 PM
Prohibition will work this time! I know it will!

Faerie
03-05-2014, 03:58 PM
Am I the only person that finds Trailer Park Boys to be completely boring? It's like the sort of thing that would be a quality youtube show if they did it in 10 minute segments and only had a handful of episodes, but as an actual TV show is simply too much. How many seasons and movies can they squeeze out of the tired Canadian white trash premise?

I just don't get it.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 04:01 PM
7 7 episode seasons and 2 movies, pretty sure its done with now.

I know its not for everyone and its definitely STUPID comedy but some of it is great like the words ricky invents

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJPSzLiPD8CbMMnuBMxu_kHu1cemrko sHxoFf-cvDRb3cBRQ56cAdFQHIt

the ridiculous scenarios they get in and out of the how stupid the cops are. it's definitely "low brow" but it speaks to my soul as a simple mainer

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 04:06 PM
Am I the only person that finds Trailer Park Boys to be completely boring? It's like the sort of thing that would be a quality youtube show if they did it in 10 minute segments and only had a handful of episodes, but as an actual TV show is simply too much. How many seasons and movies can they squeeze out of the tired Canadian white trash premise?

I just don't get it.

To me, ricky and lahey never got old. i don't think i would get behind more and more seasons.. cause i think the show has definitely run its course..I did recently see them live and it was worth every dollar. Funny thing is that they performed at a venue that usually does plays and operas; they ran out of beer before the first intermission.

agree with everything rhambuk said above. Ricky and lahey-isms are the best.

Faerie
03-05-2014, 04:07 PM
Maybe I'm just getting old :(

Pringles
03-05-2014, 04:08 PM
I love all the people flaming the OP for "fucking around at work" because he's surfing the forums on his *lunch break*, while they also "fucking around at work".

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 04:08 PM
Maybe I'm just getting old :(

nah its because you're red.

I don't expect much reasoning from red players.

;)

drktmplr12
03-05-2014, 04:09 PM
image

ultimate forum browsing experience right there!

Fett
03-05-2014, 04:10 PM
Am I the only person that finds Trailer Park Boys to be completely boring? It's like the sort of thing that would be a quality youtube show if they did it in 10 minute segments and only had a handful of episodes, but as an actual TV show is simply too much. How many seasons and movies can they squeeze out of the tired Canadian white trash premise?

I just don't get it.

It's not that I find it boring, I've only seen a few episodes and it had it's occasional moments however any TV show done in the "reality TV" format drives me absolutely insane, I can not stand it. I really wanted to get into Parks and Recreation, but I have the same problem with it. Realty TV and all pseudo-realty TV shows make me irrationally upset to the point where I want to stab a kitten.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 04:19 PM
Lies and slander!

Faerie
03-05-2014, 04:32 PM
Lies and slander!

Wanna fight about it? Let's settle this in gfay.

Oh, wait... :/

Juhstin
03-05-2014, 04:36 PM
16 pages already?

5 Stars I voted the troll thread.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 04:39 PM
Wanna fight about it? Let's settle this in gfay.

Oh, wait... :/

I aint scared of no gfay faeries

Faerie
03-05-2014, 04:45 PM
I aint scared of no gfay faeries

Oh, you should be.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 04:47 PM
Gonna make me sneeze waving faerie dust around?

Faerie
03-05-2014, 04:54 PM
Gonna make me sneeze waving faerie dust around?

I will fucking kill you.
http://i.imgur.com/DBYXKK2.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8LnzDTaCDk

thieros
03-05-2014, 05:00 PM
7 7 episode seasons and 2 movies, pretty sure its done with now.

I know its not for everyone and its definitely STUPID comedy but some of it is great like the words ricky invents

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJPSzLiPD8CbMMnuBMxu_kHu1cemrko sHxoFf-cvDRb3cBRQ56cAdFQHIt

the ridiculous scenarios they get in and out of the how stupid the cops are. it's definitely "low brow" but it speaks to my soul as a simple mainer

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/03/05/trailer-park-boys-netflix-canada_n_4905421.html

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 05:02 PM
I will fucking kill you.
http://i.imgur.com/DBYXKK2.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8LnzDTaCDk

You'd stand a good chance since I'd slip on my drool and hit my head on the floor.

Rhambuk
03-05-2014, 05:02 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/03/05/trailer-park-boys-netflix-canada_n_4905421.html

awwww yeah!

Bill Tetley
03-05-2014, 05:49 PM
new tpb movie soon.. dont legalize it

edit: nm that article already says that. fuck

Ahldagor
03-06-2014, 08:53 PM
I'd like to thank everyone who commented constructively and had reasonable arguments.

I think there's merit to both sides of the argument, and I think there's been a lot of popular argument styles here meant to derail what I was trying to impart.

Please keep in mind that the browsing habits of each side are trying to influence the others. One side doesn't want their freedoms restricted, so forces the other to disable part of the forums. The other side wants some things (sigs/avatars) to be less explicit (thus censoring those users) so they can view the forums without a handicap. Both sides create a censor, and the logic that one is self imposed doesn't really hold water because the users who have to disable them have stated that they wish they didn't have to.

Both sides of the argument cause the others to give something up. One side is a minority (or at least, a vocal minority). I had already disabled forum sigs/avatars prior to my post for my own protection, but wanted to have a civil discussion regarding the state of sigs/avatars, which I feel like is accomplished.

I won't be popping back in because frankly, it has reached RnF levels where I hoped it would not. Special shout out to Hailto who started on this thread rather derogatory but ended up contributing in a compelling manner.

good lord this is pathetic. compelling falling into a subjecive valuation

loramin
03-06-2014, 09:00 PM
As pathetic as resurrecting a thread that's been dead for over a day just to get a Nelson-like "ha ha" in?

Swish
03-06-2014, 09:01 PM
I thought we'd buried it.

BigHurb
03-06-2014, 09:35 PM
HA HA

Ahldagor
03-06-2014, 11:02 PM
As pathetic as resurrecting a thread that's been dead for over a day just to get a Nelson-like "ha ha" in?

recalling hbb "arguments"
there's an uncanny similarity there


HA HA

jajajajajaja

Clark
03-07-2014, 09:22 AM
http://comedyforanimators.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BubblesAndConkey.jpg

Oh, those were excellent negotiation tactics you used, Patrick Swayze.

lol

Argh
03-07-2014, 04:04 PM
If you want to disable signatures for browsing at work you can do the following:

1. Use Google Chrome.
2. Download the free chrome extension 'Stylebot (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylebot/oiaejidbmkiecgbjeifoejpgmdaleoha?hl=en)'
3. Open Stylebot
4. Where it says 'Select an Element' type in div.sizedsig
5. Under Layout & Visibility click Hide

This will hide signatures whenever browsing the forums, and will remain so long as stylebot remains installed.

You can also use this extension to remove the 150px max-height on signatures by doing the following:

4. Where it says 'Select an Element' type in div.sizedsig
5. Click switch from Basic to Advanced.
6. Type: max-height:none;

Happy forum questing and continue not working.

loramin
03-07-2014, 04:14 PM
There's also just a way to disable signatures entirely via the forum system, but that's not really the issue.

The issue is that some people don't want to see a very small subset of (arguably) NSFW signatures, but still want to see the rest of them. The only way they can achieve that is to ban bouncing boobs the same way we ban exposed boobs.

Other people however really like bouncing boobs in sigs, or maybe they're just anti-censorship in any form. These people don't want to ban bouncing boobs just to appease the other crowd.

Swish
03-07-2014, 04:21 PM
Bouncing boob sigs for some.
No bouncing boob sigs for others.

...we've had the sig sized nerfed already (and there's some awesome gifs that don't fit into a "letterbox" size very well :(), people demanding this kind of thing are just asking for all picture sigs to be disabled, rather than doing the right thing and unchecking a few boxes.

HippoNipple
03-07-2014, 04:24 PM
huh?

Juhstin
03-07-2014, 04:41 PM
If Hippo has to get rid of his sig because some fgt doesn't like seeing hot ass bitches needs to check himself.

No Boss would be mad if they saw Hippo's sig.

Swish
03-07-2014, 04:51 PM
If Hippo has to get rid of his sig because some fgt doesn't like seeing hot ass bitches needs to check himself.

No Boss would be mad if they saw Hippo's sig.

Fett
03-07-2014, 05:25 PM
Looks guys, I've had a change of heart and I think I have an even better solution.

Let's just all change our sigs to pictures of boobs. That way the people who want see boobs will be happy (more boobs!) and the people that don't want to see boobs won't feel left out when they disable forum signatures. EVERBODY WINS.

HippoNipple
03-07-2014, 05:29 PM
Looks guys, I've had a change of heart and I think I have an even better solution.

Let's just all change our sigs to pictures of boobs. That way the people who want see boobs will be happy (more boobs!) and the people that don't want to see boobs won't feel left out when they disable forum signatures. EVERBODY WINS.

You may be okay with not seeing the boobs but then you will feel left out when the trannys on these forums show pictures of their junk.

webrunner5
03-07-2014, 11:41 PM
I think one of the "Boobs" on here is HippoNipple.

Kayso
03-08-2014, 07:02 AM
then you have a weak ground to debate from and come off as whining which is like blood in shark infested waters here.

I thought I'd point this out in a timely fashion: There are no sharks here. Nothing remotely resembling a shark. Not even in the most generous metaphoric sense.

Can anyone name a harmless (and probably morbidly obese) schooling fish that neglects a meaningful fish life in favor of a passive life of lethargy hiding in some cranny while desperately trying to impress other fish who have also failed at fish life?

So yeah, OP's whining is like some fluid (nothing as manly as blood) in waters infested by those kinds of fish.

He better hope its not waffle sauce or it'll be a frenzy.

Xer0
03-08-2014, 08:02 AM
I thought I'd point this out in a timely fashion: There are no sharks here. Nothing remotely resembling a shark. Not even in the most generous metaphoric sense.

Can anyone name a harmless (and probably morbidly obese) schooling fish that neglects a meaningful fish life in favor of a passive life of lethargy hiding in some cranny while desperately trying to impress other fish who have also failed at fish life?

So yeah, OP's whining is like some fluid (nothing as manly as blood) in waters infested by those kinds of fish.

He better hope its not waffle sauce or it'll be a frenzy.

I can't believe that a community of what I imagine consists mainly of adult males would react this childishly to a legitimate concern. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe this server is exclusive to adult males and neither are the forums. Though this certainly isn't a game that's likely to attract many modern teenagers, or 25-32 year old women it's still a possibility. The women I don't concern myself with, sorry ladies but nerdy shit is generally male-dominated. However the fact that minors can and probably do legally register and view these forums (like I said probably not many, but I guarantee a few have heard of a free classic mmorpg and thought to try it out), and I feel like this could probably have legal ramifications. It's really something mods should think about.

But seriously, for all of you to claim that this main is a whiny this or that to come here and be so aggressive and bitchy about the subject matter is just silly. You sound like 15 year old girls reacting to their father saying they're not allowed to go see <insert boy band here>

Truth be told the thread should have ended at "disable sigs and avatars"
and to you piss poor trolls, shame on you.

Vermicelli
03-08-2014, 08:35 AM
Ain't a chest- or bottom-side nazi, but yeah. I have thought the general forums to be hella erotic in the last year. Whether or not OP is wasting meaningless corporate dollars, plz fix

Xer0
03-08-2014, 09:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6qeMBi0.jpg?1

I'm just going to leave this here... pay special attention to Avatar/Sig, Content section.

myriverse
03-08-2014, 09:10 AM
Nothing explicitly NSFW about any avatars or sigs I've seen.

Xer0
03-08-2014, 09:11 AM
Im pretty sure things that go beyond suggestive into blatantly sexual are considered NSFW.. it doesnt have to be a moneyshot for someone in the professional world to be like "wtf is that about". Scantily clad women making suggestive motions will do the trick just fine.

Mind you he never explicitly stated no nudity or hardcore pornography.. his words were to keep things work-safe. If he wanted no porn/nudity specifically he would say no porn/nudity. NSFW is pretty well generally understood by well adjusted adults the internet over to include evocative and suggestive images.

Swish
03-08-2014, 09:42 AM
Rule lawyering on sigs now, o hai P99 :p

Daldaen
03-08-2014, 10:13 AM
Should just ban Sigs and Avatars FTW.

whitebandit
03-08-2014, 10:23 AM
Safe for work is SUPER subjective.. My job will tolerate even the worst of the RNF section so i have absolutely No questions about how SFW the signatures i see are.

IE.. OP get a better job :-p

myriverse
03-08-2014, 11:25 AM
Im pretty sure things that go beyond suggestive into blatantly sexual are considered NSFW.. it doesnt have to be a moneyshot for someone in the professional world to be like "wtf is that about". Scantily clad women making suggestive motions will do the trick just fine.

Mind you he never explicitly stated no nudity or hardcore pornography.. his words were to keep things work-safe. If he wanted no porn/nudity specifically he would say no porn/nudity. NSFW is pretty well generally understood by well adjusted adults the internet over to include evocative and suggestive images.
You see worse during the "family hour" on network tv than anything I've seen in a avatar or sig on these boards.

Gaffin 7.0
03-08-2014, 12:20 PM
pity reply

Swish
03-08-2014, 12:26 PM
Should just ban Sigs and Avatars FTW.

Why though? You just disable yours and leave the rest of us to enjoy them.

Kayso
03-08-2014, 04:32 PM
Safe for work is SUPER subjective.. My job will tolerate even the worst of the RNF section so i have absolutely No questions about how SFW the signatures i see are.

IE.. OP get a better job :-p

As stupid as they are, I get the "quit wasting time at your job" comments. Winning at EQ usually entails punching the clock at a job a monkey can do - if one is actually employed to begin with. I'm guessing most here don't understand what it is to hold a professional position where you're judged on your overall performance and accomplishment of goals and not how many Big Macs you can make in an hour.

But I've got to know what kind of job you have that would tolerate RnF and also qualifies as being "better" than OPs job. Tattoo artist? Do you get to wear flip-flops to your work?

webrunner5
03-08-2014, 07:43 PM
I really doubt many people on here even HAVE a job other than going to the mailbox for their welfare check the way this thread is going. :p

Nekkojakk
03-09-2014, 04:02 AM
Or focus on doing your job at work.

Kayso
03-09-2014, 05:59 PM
Or focus on doing your job at work.

Or maybe he doesn't punch the clock at WalMart... Perhaps he gets paid a salary based on overall performance and can both perform his job at a high level and browse forums?

Nekkojakk
03-09-2014, 06:27 PM
Or maybe he doesn't punch the clock at WalMart... Perhaps he gets paid a salary based on overall performance and can both perform his job at a high level and browse forums?

So he lacks a phone to browse the forum? Besides its not as if the gifs will be registering with whatever program they use to log he webpage visits. It's only an issue if he or she is dumb enough to browse the forums in front of other people.

Briscoe
03-09-2014, 06:47 PM
Or focus on doing your job at work.

So he lacks a phone to browse the forum? Besides its not as if the gifs will be registering with whatever program they use to log he webpage visits. It's only an issue if he or she is dumb enough to browse the forums in front of other people.

It took just 20 minutes for the first "do your work at work" response in this thread, and yours -- which came 5 days and nearly 200 posts later -- is just as unimpressive. Just save yourself the embarrassment and stop defending it.

I am pleased to see that at least someone else, Tomtee in this case, feels the way that I do about the sig and avatar situation here. I learned to stop displaying avatars and pictures in posts a long time ago, and it's a much more pleasant way to browse the forums, whether at work or at home. I thought about making a similar thread at one point, but the reaction is too predictable: The desire for the average male to put some scantily clad woman in his avatar like a 13 year old boy posting on a forum in 2002 is often too strong to resist.

Lune
03-09-2014, 07:20 PM
OP it's your job to deliver your workplace from their oppressive, puritanical evil worldview.

Titties, penors, and sexuality are not shameful, they are beautiful.

Gnomersy
03-10-2014, 09:21 AM
Get a smart phone, surf forums, profit.

baalzy
03-10-2014, 11:07 AM
Question:

What happens when someone comes across P99 for the first time. They haven't registered yet, or they only just registered and they go into Server chat and the first post they read is written by someone with a boob squeezer avatar or the first signature they see is a woman on all fours shaking her butt acting like she's taking it from behind? How were they supposed to avoid that if they wanted to?

You guys act like nobody new ever visits the forums. Grow up.

Faerie
03-10-2014, 11:45 AM
Question:

What happens when someone comes across P99 for the first time. They haven't registered yet, or they only just registered and they go into Server chat and the first post they read is written by someone with a boob squeezer avatar or the first signature they see is a woman on all fours shaking her butt acting like she's taking it from behind? How were they supposed to avoid that if they wanted to?

You guys act like nobody new ever visits the forums. Grow up.

Why is it a problem for them to see women doing suggestive things? I don't think a website should censor its members just in case someone gets offended or something.

Asap
03-10-2014, 11:48 AM
If they are offended by boobs, then these forums are DEFINITELY not the place for them haha. In fact, the internet is not the place for them.

baalzy
03-10-2014, 11:52 AM
Grow up.

Daldaen
03-10-2014, 11:53 AM
Why though? You just disable yours and leave the rest of us to enjoy them.

Because SOME PEOPLE just ForumQuest because of sigs, avatars and gifs. Maybe banning them would reduce the activity of such people!

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
03-10-2014, 11:59 AM
Ban in game characters for multiple forum violations.

Shaakglith12194
03-10-2014, 12:33 PM
People being offended by what doesn't even qualify as nudity or pornographic...forumquest!

Asap
03-10-2014, 12:38 PM
Ban in game characters for multiple forum violations.

Totally should wipe Forums too, only way to maintain server integrity

Fett
03-10-2014, 12:47 PM
Question:

What happens when someone comes across P99 for the first time. They haven't registered yet, or they only just registered and they go into Server chat and the first post they read is written by someone with a boob squeezer avatar or the first signature they see is a woman on all fours shaking her butt acting like she's taking it from behind? How were they supposed to avoid that if they wanted to?

You guys act like nobody new ever visits the forums. Grow up.

http://media.giphy.com/media/u1HjjI2H6rXLa/giphy.gif

Xer0
03-10-2014, 12:57 PM
People being offended by what doesn't even qualify as nudity or pornographic...forumquest!

I'm not offended, I'm not just being blatantly ignorant about the fact that some people may be offended and or put off by it. Additionally I'm astounded at the hatred derived from such a simple question. You guys are acting like children.

drktmplr12
03-10-2014, 01:30 PM
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3849/godkitty.jpg

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
03-10-2014, 02:05 PM
People being offended by what doesn't even qualify as nudity or pornographic...forumquest!

Not even remotely offended actually. I'm thinking it would be best to keep a low profile or at the bare minimum a clean vaneer so this emu doesn't become associated with the offici title.

Now, I'm not a lawyer but the forums are a highly visible, google-searchable extension of the game we play. This game operates under the same name as titles currently collecting revenue for Sony. Although I'm not sure how, or even if Sony has acknowledged the legitimacy of emu servers I'm fairly certain they could simply send a c+d to Nilbog, Rogean and co. and the project would be terminated or at best, put into legal purgatory.

People will say dumb things in the internet.
Names and comments will be rude.
Pictures will be posted.

All of that said, there is a real need to moderate the forums insofar as this should not be a Dropbox for tranny/dick/gash pics. Same thing goes for the other crap that gets posted all over RnF. Since you can create a new forum account without any real checks it goes without saying that there should be some kind of in-game consequence insofar as the out-of-game consequence always results in ______ v.36.0

Ahldagor
03-10-2014, 02:11 PM
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3849/godkitty.jpg

keep this thread alive. my grandma has too many

Nekkojakk
03-10-2014, 02:41 PM
Not even remotely offended actually. I'm thinking it would be best to keep a low profile or at the bare minimum a clean vaneer so this emu doesn't become associated with the offici title.

Now, I'm not a lawyer but the forums are a highly visible, google-searchable extension of the game we play. This game operates under the same name as titles currently collecting revenue for Sony. Although I'm not sure how, or even if Sony has acknowledged the legitimacy of emu servers I'm fairly certain they could simply send a c+d to Nilbog, Rogean and co. and the project would be terminated or at best, put into legal purgatory.

People will say dumb things in the internet.
Names and comments will be rude.
Pictures will be posted.

All of that said, there is a real need to moderate the forums insofar as this should not be a Dropbox for tranny/dick/gash pics. Same thing goes for the other crap that gets posted all over RnF. Since you can create a new forum account without any real checks it goes without saying that there should be some kind of in-game consequence insofar as the out-of-game consequence always results in ______ v.36.0

Yea...all those sigs are just as clothed as the sony drawn EQ models on the box art.

Swish
03-10-2014, 02:45 PM
Last post wins.

drktmplr12
03-10-2014, 03:09 PM
Last post wins.

baalzy
03-10-2014, 03:18 PM
Yea...all those sigs are just as clothed as the sony drawn EQ models on the box art.

Really? Fironia Vie is squeezing her tits in the box art while on all fours acting like that iksar is nailing her from behind?

Idiot.

Fett
03-10-2014, 03:29 PM
Really? Fironia Vie is squeezing her tits in the box art while on all fours acting like that iksar is nailing her from behind?

Idiot.

Wait a minute, that's not what's on the box?

drktmplr12
03-10-2014, 03:32 PM
Wait a minute, that's not what's on the box?

1/10

Noticed that Gaffin removed his sig?

Fett
03-10-2014, 03:45 PM
1/10

Noticed that Gaffin removed his sig?

Even if I only got 1, then I'm still up a point!

I think I might have enough points in now to trade in for something.

Maybe scotch? Can I trade my points in for scotch?

Nekkojakk
03-10-2014, 03:49 PM
Really? Fironia Vie is squeezing her tits in the box art while on all fours acting like that iksar is nailing her from behind?

Idiot.

Aww don't be butthurt because you lost the discussion. You just keep on keeping on lil buddy.

drktmplr12
03-10-2014, 03:59 PM
Even if I only got 1, then I'm still up a point!

I think I might have enough points in now to trade in for something.

Maybe scotch? Can I trade my points in for scotch?

I drank it all

Aww don't be butthurt because you lost the discussion. You just keep on keeping on lil buddy.
http://aplaceofmyowndotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/shut_up_re_some_more_wallpapers-s1024x800-97159-580.jpg

Stonecrush
03-10-2014, 04:01 PM
Why do I feel like this is a weak victory for everyone.

You look like a whiner for complaining about provocatively dressed women on a Video Game forum filled with more ego's and testosterone than most locker rooms.

Or you look like an insensitive jerk for not understanding others feelings.

Here's an idea. You go to work to do work. If that's your argument it's pretty weak. To say I want to surf a website at work and then complain about the content. How about doing work instead? Welcome to productivity loss statistics 101.

Now that said. If the argument is over the sigs/avatars being an issue while on your own time at home. Then it is more to the stem of actually being offensive. Fine.

I guess I am to much of a guy to find almost naked women fun to look at and If it's not your bag, maybe putting up a sig of your favorite boy toy, or Goat is in order.

Really seems like this is blow hard, not enough to do during the day kind of argument.

That I just added my two cents into.

Nekkojakk
03-10-2014, 04:14 PM
Why do I feel like this is a weak victory for everyone.

You look like a whiner for complaining about provocatively dressed women on a Video Game forum filled with more ego's and testosterone than most locker rooms.

Or you look like an insensitive jerk for not understanding others feelings.

Here's an idea. You go to work to do work. If that's your argument it's pretty weak. To say I want to surf a website at work and then complain about the content. How about doing work instead? Welcome to productivity loss statistics 101.

Now that said. If the argument is over the sigs/avatars being an issue while on your own time at home. Then it is more to the stem of actually being offensive. Fine.

I guess I am to much of a guy to find almost naked women fun to look at and If it's not your bag, maybe putting up a sig of your favorite boy toy, or Goat is in order.

Really seems like this is blow hard, not enough to do during the day kind of argument.

That I just added my two cents into.

Except that everyone has the ability to disable sigs. Instead of doing that some people would rather change everyone else's sigs or have them moderated by staff.

Stonecrush
03-10-2014, 04:18 PM
So we're bashing minorities at both ends?

The minority group that have the "Offensive" sigs, and the minority that care enough to complain about those same sigs?

Does the silent majority count in this war on sigs?

Regulations lead to less freedom. Give me freedom. :rolleyes:

loramin
03-10-2014, 04:57 PM
some people would rather change everyone else's sigs or have them moderated by staff.

I don't think anyone wanted to "change everyone's sigs". Rather, throughout this thread you can find pretty much universally agreement that we're talking about only a handful of people's sigs.

Shaakglith12194
03-10-2014, 07:34 PM
I'm not offended, I'm not just being blatantly ignorant about the fact that some people may be offended and or put off by it. Additionally I'm astounded at the hatred derived from such a simple question. You guys are acting like children.

If you're not offended, why are you making the argument? You are arguing for people that you don't even know exist. And Sony isn't going to shut down this project because some dudes on this forum have suggestive sigs. Nothing but weak arguments for more regulation all up in this thread. Freedom > restrictions so long as nobody is being hurt. When someone gets hurt as a result of this, boo-hoo, freedom still more important as long as it's not infringing on someone elses freedom.

drktmplr12
03-10-2014, 07:59 PM
If you're not offended, why are you making the argument? You are arguing for people that you don't even know exist. And Sony isn't going to shut down this project because some dudes on this forum have suggestive sigs. Nothing but weak arguments for more regulation all up in this thread. Freedom > restrictions so long as nobody is being hurt. When someone gets hurt as a result of this, boo-hoo, freedom still more important as long as it's not infringing on someone elses freedom.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6673213184/h694F6FC6/

myriverse
03-11-2014, 07:09 AM
I don't think anyone wanted to "change everyone's sigs". Rather, throughout this thread you can find pretty much universally agreement that we're talking about only a handful of people's sigs.
We're also talking about a handful of people who care what a person's avatar or sig is. The vast majority don't care but would prefer more freedom.

Champion_Standing
03-11-2014, 07:22 AM
Avatars and Signatures
All Avatars and signatures must not contain any explicit or NSFW content.

Swish
03-11-2014, 09:55 AM
http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues01/Co06302001/Art/beaver.gif

drktmplr12
03-11-2014, 10:26 AM
is that a woodchuck chucking wood? how much you think he will chuck?

Raavak
03-11-2014, 10:29 AM
Who determines what is NFWS and isn't? I mean, staff ultimately, but there should be some self-policing so they don't have to be involved. Is my avatar NFWS?

khanable
03-11-2014, 10:33 AM
hey guys what's going on in this thread

kylok
03-11-2014, 01:09 PM
^ perfect case for and against sigs/avatars

Faerie
03-11-2014, 01:13 PM
hey guys what's going on in this thread

Possibly best sig on forums, but it's just as suggestive as the others in question. I bet no one would have complained about Cucumbers' :rolleyes:

August
03-11-2014, 01:25 PM
Glad to see you guys are still at it.

I've found it pretty funny to see the replies to this days after the fact. For good measure, I really hope at least 10 more people can tell me to 'do work at work'. I really need that reinforced for me to understand what my purpose is in life.

Again guys - both sides require censorship. Either users have to censor the forums in the entirety (no avatars/sigs) or users have to censor themselves (by having SFW sigs/avatars).

Both sides are an infringement on 'freedoms' (forum freedoms?). When I go home, my sigs/avatars are still disabled, so I need to re-enable them if I want to see them. It's either that or create an alter-ego work account, and let's be honest, i'm almost at 500 posts. I can't give that up -- not after all the hard 'work' I've put into the post count.

See you guys in a week.

Faerie
03-11-2014, 01:29 PM
Glad to see you guys are still at it.

I've found it pretty funny to see the replies to this days after the fact. For good measure, I really hope at least 10 more people can tell me to 'do work at work'. I really need that reinforced for me to understand what my purpose is in life.

Again guys - both sides require censorship. Either users have to censor the forums in the entirety (no avatars/sigs) or users have to censor themselves (by having SFW sigs/avatars).

Both sides are an infringement on 'freedoms' (forum freedoms?). When I go home, my sigs/avatars are still disabled, so I need to re-enable them if I want to see them. It's either that or create an alter-ego work account, and let's be honest, i'm almost at 500 posts. I can't give that up -- not after all the hard 'work' I've put into the post count.

See you guys in a week.

It's your boss that's wanting to censor what you're allowed to see at work, not us or the p99 staff. I still think you should just view the sigs and avatars as usual and tell your HR department to take a chill pill.

Stonecrush
03-11-2014, 01:44 PM
Possibly best sig on forums, but it's just as suggestive as the others in question. I bet no one would have complained about Cucumbers' :rolleyes:

Really? I can go to a (shudders) Yahoo "news" article and see 5 or 10 pop up adds on a FRESHLY made computer (No cookies, saved settings etc.) and see a woman in barely there bathing suit and/or a male body builder wearing skimpy clothing advertising how to get big quick.

This whole article/thread should have died after the first ten post but has exploded because everyone here is bored and wants to argue/convince the other side they are incorrect.

Where's that Jackie Chan image when needed.

Last post I'll make to spare the innocent. :rolleyes:

drktmplr12
03-11-2014, 05:28 PM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4XVkQgxA1koqEHjxXwn34qLYlKRrcA lwpideQZ5db4oGrAC9c

radditsu
03-11-2014, 06:09 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=113641

Swish
03-15-2014, 09:21 AM
http://media2.giphy.com/media/oe8Bzgk1FaMSc/giphy.gif