Sundayz tho

[Polz]

So Azrael fights for Sev, RD and Nihilum show up. We fight for awhile, Azrael has to back out against the 80 combined members. Nihi leaves, Azrael comes back to clear out RD. RD forced to back out and Nihi returns to secure dragon. Heres a snap shot.

Good day of pvp R99.

http://i.imgur.com/bHQhJ4e.jpg

[eskimospy]

Good to see some mass PvP going on between Azrael, Nihilum, and Nihilium Jr. Go Red

[Elderan]

74 Azreal dead to 13 others...

[Stalos_]

74 Azreal dead to 13 others...

are you making fun of your own math here or, should i further study this post?

[fiegi 8.0]

looks like a bunch of red99 heroes who aint taken the pixel packages

A+ would read again

[Vile]

pras

[Colgate]

looks like a bunch of red99 heroes who aint taken the pixel packages

A+ would read again

[Bazia]

So glad Polz still around, great pal.

Miss Sebilis wit you dog.

[Andis]

looks like a bunch of red99 heroes who aint taken the pixel packages

A+ would read again

long live pvp
long live yt
long live the resistance

Azrael recruiting.

[Andis]

http://i.imgur.com/bHQhJ4e.jpg

this pic will always be remembered. the day 30 azrael took on 80 Nihi/RD and azrael coming out with the huge pvp win.

long live pvp
long live yt
pras the resistance

[mostbitter]

What was the win part of it? When you plugged and lost the mob?


http://www.myteespot.com/images/Images_d/img_EHk0cl.jpg

[vouss]

I just don't understand how 80 people can let 5 people die without killing 1/30 people

[XiakenjaTZ]

I assume this is all internet posturing. If I was in the zerg I would be pretty impressed with what Azrael did. Yes we plugged, thats what you do when you go against those odds.

If you think of it another way, if you all do not have more than 2x our numbers you should not engage us to PvP over pixels thinking you will always win in the future.

[Twainz]

Best PvP was the other day in EJ/TT when I dropped Guido to 2% at the beginning of the fight and he was the first person to plug. I love that Azrael prides itself on ganking a few casters then plugging when your melee get low or use their HT. I thought you guys wanted to PvP on simulated patch days? Why would you run out of Plane of Fear when Nihilum came to fight you 1v1? Sounds like the whole PvP thing was a lie to try and get free PvE.

[vouss]

I just don't understand how 80 people can let 5 people die without killing 1/30 people

[Twainz]

I love that Azrael prides itself on ganking a few casters then plugging when your melee get low or use their HT. .

[vouss]

does azrael not have casters or does nihilum not have melees, i'm confused as to why you couldn't kill any of ours

[Humerox]

Yes we plugged, thats what you do when you go against those odds.


Yes we plugged, Thats what you do


Thats what you do

[Thrilla]

sunday pvp was fun but

they really need to fix plugging on this server.. i understand plugging at 3% life and your enemy is bad enuff to let you hit a zoneline that low.. but people plugging at 95-100% life is just terrible, talk about not even trying to escape.. part of the fun of the pvp is not only killing people but escaping a near death, plugging at 100% or en masse is lame as fuck

velious will somewhat address it with the bigger zones, but you won't stop zonehuggers from zone hugging they should just make any1 who plugs an NPC you can kill on the other side of the zone instead of this BS that exists today

[Sektor]

sunday pvp was fun but

they really need to fix plugging on this server.. i understand plugging at 3% life and your enemy is bad enuff to let you hit a zoneline that low.. but people plugging at 95-100% life is just terrible, talk about not even trying to escape.. part of the fun of the pvp is not only killing people but escaping a near death, plugging at 100% or en masse is lame as fuck

velious will somewhat address it with the bigger zones, but you won't stop zonehuggers from zone hugging they should just make any1 who plugs an NPC you can kill on the other side of the zone instead of this BS that exists today


Plugging is fine and it should stay as is.

[Mac Dretti]

pop disc plug

fights with azrael last at most 2minutes

[vouss]

plugging at 100% let us come back as a full raid force on top of Red Dawn and forced Nihilum to leave VS and come back to Severilous pushing back timers on both mobs... very good call imo

retti do you guys not have discs? I'm confused as to why you didn't get any kills with yours

[Twainz]

does azrael not have casters or does nihilum not have melees, i'm confused as to why you couldn't kill any of ours

Pretty sure its always easier to kill more people when there are more targets to go for. For example, the reason I play Ground War on CoD is because there are more targets on the map which makes for more kills per minute. Not hard to blow your discs/HTs and plug like you usually do. Its also not hard to find the lowbie Red Dawn casters.

[vouss]

yeah its' easier for a group of 30 to kill a group of 80 LOL

[Mac Dretti]

plugging at 100% let us come back as a full raid force on top of Red Dawn and forced Nihilum to leave VS and come back to Severilous pushing back timers on both mobs... very good call imo

retti do you guys not have discs? I'm confused as to why you didn't get any kills with yours

im assuming most people thought the fight would last longer and didnt want to blow disc on the first person they saw

az blows disc on first person they see and plugs

[Humerox]

iirc SZ finally did just that. They coded it so you couldn't plug...your toon would appear on the other side.

[vouss]

Retti why wouldn't you pop discs and HT on the first targets? You prefer to fight 30 of us instead of 20 of us? PVP 101 right here, save discs in hopes of a long fight or burn high DPS priority targets?

[vouss]

Its also not hard to find the lowbie Red Dawn casters.

on our first fight, the first two wizards to die were Thakisis, and Mitic LOL - distinctly remember thakisis trying to facetank melee train in hopes of casting draught of ice

[Mac Dretti]

using a disc on a non cc'd lvl 60 melee? sounds like a guaranteed waste of a disc.

i guess i cant blame azrael since blue con int casters in advisor robes have 900 hp and die in 1 duelist backstab or 1 harmtouch+1round of melee

[vouss]

why would our first target be a lvl 60 melee? pvp 101 right here pals, you have much to learn it seems retti (hint, it's not)...


Why was your first target a un CC'd level 60 melee?

[Mac Dretti]

reading 101 right here pals, you have much to learn it seems vouss (you asked me why nihilum didn't blow disc once we saw the whites of your eyes)

azrael is made up of pure melee

thus the reply

[vouss]

#zerg guild problems, enemy guild is melee heavy hard to find caster targets! (30vs80)

[King Chip]

Retti, gonna need to hear about Thak's rage when he died on Croazil a few nights ago getting tstaffed procced 3 or 4 times at ZL. Please inform, mustve made for good luls

[Twainz]

Retti, gonna need to hear about Thak's rage when he died on Croazil a few nights ago getting tstaffed procced 3 or 4 times at ZL. Please inform, mustve made for good luls

Thakasis laughed about it. Was p gud.

[Mac Dretti]

k

[Bamz4l]

sunday pvp was fun but

they really need to fix plugging on this server.. i understand plugging at 3% life and your enemy is bad enuff to let you hit a zoneline that low.. but people plugging at 95-100% life is just terrible, talk about not even trying to escape.. part of the fun of the pvp is not only killing people but escaping a near death, plugging at 100% or en masse is lame as fuck

velious will somewhat address it with the bigger zones, but you won't stop zonehuggers from zone hugging they should just make any1 who plugs an NPC you can kill on the other side of the zone instead of this BS that exists today

where did ur guild setup for the EJ pvp? oh right... ontop of the TT zoneline

[Twainz]

where did ur guild setup for the EJ pvp? oh right... ontop of the TT zoneline

As if you would attack us in the middle of the zone without a zoneline to plug into.

[SamwiseRed]

I'm glad there is no plugging In eve, shit is lame.

[Gustoo]

In EQ plugging is classic. Sev is pulled to zone line for ez zoneline safety but makes it risky for incoming enemies popping into the zone. Totally classic. Eve is different game..played differently. Apples to oranges and stuff.

[vouss]

Twainz half the people you lost died on the druid port in, not at a zoneline

[Kergan]

I don't know why these threads get a rise out of people anymore. Azrael thinks they win if they get more YTs, everyone else thinks they win when the objective is accomplished (pixels). That's why both sides think they won. I don't like seeing our guys get YT'd but we had a numbers advantage. Considering YTs are meaningless and you can rez people right back to where they die when you secure the zone, "zerging" you was a completely legitimate option and the correct strategy. We chased you out, that was our goal. You got more YTs, and apparently that is your goal. Everybody wins I guess?

Fact of the matter is if not for a crazy timed simulated repop when we were in TD killing Fay where you managed to beat an underequipped and outleveled group of RD with even numbers in EJ (right next to your guild bind) you would have killed 0 raid mobs, despite having a force large enough to kill any raid target in the game. I give you complete credit for that, you went for the only target you had any chance in getting and got it done. But that doesn't alter the fact that it was a complete gift of circumstance and is very unlikely to happen again (although to be fair, both simulated repops have been on a Sunday correct?).

Then you come on here, claim clear and decisive victory. The amusing part to me is how much venom you all would have spewed in our direction had we steamrolled RD with superior levels and gear the same exact way your crew of white knights did yesterday.

I guess whats important is everyone seemed to have a good time. It was disappointing that your day ended in PVE wipe when there still might have been a battle or two later on with the second round of repops coming. Rushing PD was a big gamble but probably worth the risk. I'm hoping your guild doesn't burn out or bail to another server, we need a third "faction" to keep things interesting.

[Kergan]

Twainz half the people you lost died on the druid port in, not at a zoneline

We were completely aware we'd lose a lot of people porting in. We still accomplished what we wanted to in that encounter, a dead Sev. Like I said in my TLDR post, the conditions of victory are very different for Azrael than they are for us. Apparently we both won, somehow.

[Andis]

We were completely aware we'd lose a lot of people porting in. We still accomplished what we wanted to in that encounter, a dead Sev. Like I said in my TLDR post, the conditions of victory are very different for Azrael than they are for us. Apparently we both won, somehow.

See Kergan, that is where you are wrong. This is a PVP server. And the PVP guild won. 30 v 80 we got 12 or 13 YTs as the grp of 80 only got 3.

Now if this was blue server, then yes you guys won you got most mobs. The primary objective of the red server is pvp, pixels come after.

let that sink in.

[Smedy]

all kinds of plugging should be fixed, it ruins eq and pvp

it might be classic but so was boxing, why can we plug but not box?

[Kergan]

See Kergan, that is where you are wrong. This is a PVP server. And the PVP guild won. 30 v 80 we got 12 or 13 YTs as the grp of 80 only got 3.

Now if this was blue server, then yes you guys won you got most mobs. The primary objective of the red server is pvp, pixels come after.

let that sink in.

I completely disagree with your assessment of this server, and EQ PVP servers in general. But to each their own.

[India]

See Kergan, that is where you are wrong. This is a PVP server. And the PVP guild won. 30 v 80 we got 12 or 13 YTs as the grp of 80 only got 3.

Now if this was blue server, then yes you guys won you got most mobs. The primary objective of the red server is pvp, pixels come after.

let that sink in.

Serious question then, why did you guys zone out of Fear last night when Nihilum zoned in?

[Koota]

See Kergan, that is where you are wrong. This is a PVP server. And the PVP guild won. 30 v 80 we got 12 or 13 YTs as the grp of 80 only got 3.

Now if this was blue server, then yes you guys won you got most mobs. The primary objective of the red server is pvp, pixels come after.

let that sink in.

YAY YOU WIN THE VIDEO GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. HOE-RAY

[Andis]

Serious question then, why did you guys zone out of Fear last night when Nihilum zoned in?

serious answer tho:

we were not ready, plain and simple

also to avoid any possible yt

[Sektor]

serious answer tho:

to avoid yt - outnumbered by a shit load

naw

[Twainz]

Serious question then, why did you guys zone out of Fear last night when Nihilum zoned in?

[Kergan]

Because Azrael are "ratio players". When I used to play Tanarus (a pretty fun tank simulator that was SOEs first online game before EQ game out) that's what we call them. Basically, people trying to kill as many people as they could while very rarely dying.

Map control, capturing flags, etc were not part of their agenda like they were for other players. If they got attacked 3 on 1 and managed to kill 2 before dying, they viewed that as a loss, for example. Most people despised them because they would typically have escape modules loaded (turbos, rockets, etc) if the fight turned against them, and would never engage when victory was going to be unlikely. They would also do things like "shelling" which would be to sit in a spot easy to escape from or somewhere easily defensible and lob long range shells into the battle, stealing kills.

Replace some of the Tanarus terms with EQ ones, like turbos/rockets with zoneplugging/gate pots, replace shelling with goonsquading alt/new player exp groups, etc, and you can see what I mean.

I'm fine with their play style, not that they care. In my youth/RZ days I would have fit far better into Azrael than Nihilum. The Begotten (guild I was in) was very similar in a lot of ways to how Azrael operates. Basically a better version of Azrael, honestly. I was a hardcore ratio player on Tanarus as well, one of the most despised players I think. :)

[Gaffin 7.0]

dat tanarus, infantry was better tho

[rollin5k]

game was sick. Oblivion

[Mac Dretti]

serious answer tho:

we were not ready, plains and simple

also to avoid any possible yt

[Gustoo]

all kinds of plugging should be fixed, it ruins eq and pvp

it might be classic but so was boxing, why can we plug but not box?

Boxxing wasn't that common on live. Paying extra 10 bux a month was embarrassing like buying RMT plat.

Zone lines being "safe" one way or another is a totally critical dynamic of everquest. Being deep within a zone, far from a zone line is a totally different experience than playing next to a zone line in both PVP and PVE.

[Vile]

game would be so much more fun if when/if a user plugged his char would pop on other side defenseless.

[Mac Dretti]

Saw Novus try to /Q in the middle of a zone the other day just to get Yt'd anyways

Truly embarassing

[BrobbVZ]

As Retti types this, Bulletproofx is plugging lawl

[King Chip]

Saw Novus try to /Q in the middle of a zone the other day just to get Yt'd anyways

Truly embarassing

Talking about when we were in VP? Nah I was lagging really hard, hit a load screen into OT, but apparently it didn't zone me and I died.

[sprinkle16]

I don't get it, who is even on what side now?

Big ups to brennard doing work in the background, I see slathar going to town too. However , you killed chopper in the pic

why is chopper unbanned? Does this server have any integrity on it at all?

[Pitborn]

Who plays Brennard now?

[freez]

why do people give a fuck who gets the last hit in mass pvp

[Bamz4l]

why do people give a fuck who gets the last hit in mass pvp

cuz they blue and that's all they get

[Clark]

So Azrael fights for Sev, RD and Nihilum show up. We fight for awhile, Azrael has to back out against the 80 combined members. Nihi leaves, Azrael comes back to clear out RD. RD forced to back out and Nihi returns to secure dragon. Heres a snap shot.

Good day of pvp R99.

http://i.imgur.com/bHQhJ4e.jpg

Why the HELL are Azrael and RD not teaming up against Nihilum. If I still played there I'd consider jumping off my roof.

[King Chip]

Why the HELL are Azrael and RD not teaming up against Nihilum. If I still played there I'd consider jumping off my roof.

http://cdn.carthrottle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/stepbrosidk.gif

[Sektor]

Why the HELL are Azrael and RD not teaming up against Nihilum. If I still played there I'd consider jumping off my roof.

Lite kind of made it hard on us. Nothing we can do about it.

[Buhbuh]

Why the HELL are Azrael and RD not teaming up against Nihilum. If I still played there I'd consider jumping off my roof.


Lite.

[Tassador]

Miss football Sundays server disgusting with 80% of the pop teaming up for dragons.

[BrobbVZ]

Retti is proud of 12 vs 1 killshots on nakeds... like genuinely proud of it. I mean, if thats your high in the game I feel bad for you.

[Mac Dretti]

Retti is proud of 12 vs 1 killshots on nakeds... like genuinely proud of it. I mean, if thats your high in the game I feel bad for you.

http://i.imgur.com/86XxYnV.jpg

[heartbrand]

Nothing like a nice cleric kill shot to look at with my morning coffee and bagel

[King Chip]

Nothing like a nice cleric kill shot to look at with my morning coffee and bagel

Toasted with cream cheese I hope.

[Andis]

Toasted with cream cheese I hope.

its heartbrand, can 100% guarantee lox with cream cheese

you gotta know your opponent chipp

[sprinkle16]

and what do white trash halflings eat for lunch andis? room temperature cans of van camps pork and beans?

or maybe some nice mcdonalds?

[Andis]

and what do white trash halflings eat for lunch andis? room temperature cans of van camps pork and beans?

or maybe some nice mcdonalds?

quiet tomato

it amuses me you still post on these forums

go tend to your terrible tomatoes you loser

[Mac Dretti]

I love fresh veggies

Pras California

[Sektor]

and what do white trash halflings eat for lunch andis? room temperature cans of van camps pork and beans?

or maybe some nice mcdonalds?

lmfao

[Gaffin 7.0]

http://i.imgur.com/86XxYnV.jpg

lol