View Full Version : Please stop hurting the population
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:07 PM
The GM/Dev decision is what it is, and our dissent was expected. Continuing to complain about it is not going to change anything on that end, we simply have to deal with the lowered (but still increased) xp and wait to find out what else they have in store for us. Sirken isn't one to lie or lead us on, and after all he's done for the "box" don't we owe him the benefit of doubt?
Here's some constructive criticism: please stop hurting the population with loud and somewhat obnoxious posts about how the server is doomed now. We're all guilty of this from time to time, but if we made efforts to catch ourselves as we're doing it and stop then we'd all be better off for it.
The best way to respond to the changes is to accept it without whining and get on with our gaming. If for some reason we feel entitled to VZTZ-speed xp and are unable to enjoy the game without having levels handed to us, then we should gracefully take our leave without making a petty fuss. Anyone of sober mind can plainly see that the players making a big stink over this change are further discouraging new people from coming here and trying the game out with us. It's of course fine if you disagree with the decision that was made, but how many "I'm leaving!" or "23 of my friends just quit the server because it's too hard now" posts do we really need? Many of the people making these ridiculous and damaging posts are at the same time accusing the GMs/devs of not caring, and wanting to destroy the server.
There are worse things to be than a hypocrite, but that doesn't make it cool.
Let's all just calm down, think carefully about what our actions before we make them, and then get back to playing this game we love. Please.
heartbrand
02-25-2014, 01:09 PM
just a FYI, there is currently zero exp bonus 50-60. even SZ had a global exp bonus.
Azure
02-25-2014, 01:10 PM
The GM/Dev decision is what it is, and our dissent was expected. Continuing to complain about it is not going to change anything on that end, we simply have to deal with the lowered (but still increased) xp and wait to find out what else they have in store for us. Sirken isn't one to lie or lead us on, and after all he's done for the "box" don't we owe him the benefit of doubt?
Here's some constructive criticism: please stop hurting the population with loud and somewhat obnoxious posts about how the server is doomed now. We're all guilty of this from time to time, but if we made efforts to catch ourselves as we're doing it and stop then we'd all be better off for it.
The best way to respond to the changes is to accept it without whining and get on with our gaming. If for some reason we feel entitled to VZTZ-speed xp and are unable to enjoy the game without having levels handed to us, then we should gracefully take our leave without making a petty fuss. Anyone of sober mind can plainly see that the players making a big stink over this change are further discouraging new people from coming here and trying the game out with us. It's of course fine if you disagree with the decision that was made, but how many "I'm leaving!" or "23 of my friends just quit the server because it's too hard now" posts do we really need? Many of the people making these ridiculous and damaging posts are at the same time accusing the GMs/devs of not caring, and wanting to destroy the server.
There are worse things to be than a hypocrite, but that doesn't make it cool.
Let's all just calm down, think carefully about what our actions before we make them, and then get back to playing this game we love. Please.
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:10 PM
SZ had legal trains, which I think was the main reason for including a very small bonus.
And since most of the population here is 50+, why do we feel as though we need a bonus at this range? There are groups to be found 50+ no matter what class you are or what guild you're in. The entire point of the bonus is to assist those players struggling because of the low population.
the server is doomed now.
Sektor
02-25-2014, 01:11 PM
just a FYI, there is currently zero exp bonus 50-60. even SZ had a global exp bonus.
marie
02-25-2014, 01:12 PM
im pretty sure 99% of the people that play on p99 came here before ever reading anything on the forums. I guess i dont really know tho ive been here since blue beta before the forums even existed
Not_Kazowi
02-25-2014, 01:13 PM
just a FYI, there is currently zero exp bonus 50-60. even SZ had a global exp bonus.
Azure
02-25-2014, 01:13 PM
just a FYI, there is currently zero exp bonus 50-60. even SZ had a global exp bonus.
The scaling bonus from 1-50 is still in effect. We don't know what it is and how it scales though beyond previous explanations lost to the forum entropy here.
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:17 PM
just a FYI, there is currently zero exp bonus 50-60. even SZ had a global exp bonus.
And you know, if we all took it in stride and went with it with a positive attitude, powering through those levels wouldn't feel like such a chore. If you don't like playing the game, why are you here?
Why does everyone seem to feel entitled to a level 60? It's supposed to be an accomplishment of time commitment, and it's supposed to happen gradually over time.
Twainz
02-25-2014, 01:27 PM
And you know, if we all took it in stride and went with it with a positive attitude, powering through those levels wouldn't feel like such a chore. If you don't like playing the game, why are you here?
Why does everyone seem to feel entitled to a level 60? It's supposed to be an accomplishment of time commitment, and it's supposed to happen gradually over time.
Didn't you level here during the exp bonus?
Thanks
heartbrand
02-25-2014, 01:28 PM
The scaling bonus from 1-50 is still in effect. We don't know what it is and how it scales though beyond previous explanations lost to the forum entropy here.
yes and the scaling bonus stops @ 50, hence why my post of "there is no exp bonus 50-60"
heartbrand
02-25-2014, 01:30 PM
And you know, if we all took it in stride and went with it with a positive attitude, powering through those levels wouldn't feel like such a chore. If you don't like playing the game, why are you here?
Why does everyone seem to feel entitled to a level 60? It's supposed to be an accomplishment of time commitment, and it's supposed to happen gradually over time.
Again, conceptually I don't think that many people care too much about the EXP. It's more based on the fact that there is very few people to play with here, and getting into a group to begin with is incredibly difficult. If there were ample groups and plenty of people to meet and play with, I don't think people would care nearly as much. This change will undoubtedly result in even fewer people to group with.
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:30 PM
Didn't you level here during the exp bonus?
Thanks
I leveled to high 30s on release, as a cleric. I leveled with Arzak and friends. Faerie was started right after some xp nerf happened and people were complaining on the boards, then once I got into my 50s the servers were DDoSed and they added in that huge bonus that was just removed.
marie
02-25-2014, 01:33 PM
must have been easy leveling with the staff
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:34 PM
Again, conceptually I don't think that many people care too much about the EXP. It's more based on the fact that there is very few people to play with here, and getting into a group to begin with is incredibly difficult. If there were ample groups and plenty of people to meet and play with, I don't think people would care nearly as much. This change will undoubtedly result in even fewer people to group with.
Probably, but so will complaining about the change. If we really cared so much about the population instead of just looking out for our own goals, we would do the best with what we have instead of working to make it worse.
Besides, Sirken told us that more changes are coming and that they're not just leaving the server as it is. I trust him; he's never steered us wrong in the past.
HippoNipple
02-25-2014, 01:34 PM
And you know, if we all took it in stride and went with it with a positive attitude, powering through those levels wouldn't feel like such a chore. If you don't like playing the game, why are you here?
Why does everyone seem to feel entitled to a level 60? It's supposed to be an accomplishment of time commitment, and it's supposed to happen gradually over time.
First off you can't talk shit and ask stupid questions like why are you here and do you enjoy the game to the guy PLing up all the noobs, recruiting people from blue, offering raiding to those that would not otherwise have it, etc. Obviously the new rules are hurting his goals of providing a raid experience for his guild.
Who are you on this server right now? What level/class/guild are you in and how have these rules helped or hurt your ability to make in impact on this server? Would anyone notice if you stopped logging in?
You can ask those question for anyone for the exp nerfs and it would be the same outcome - non factor.
There are 3 people on this server that make a big impact on the community right now, Lite, HB and Nizzar. Their play times are absurd and they impact almost every player on this server whether for the better or worse. I know 2/3 don't like the exp nerf, not sure about Lite or if it really effects him and his friends.
Whether it is complaining out of frustration or making their opinions known to urge the devs to make a change going forward that is what happens on forums. Get over it.
Twainz
02-25-2014, 01:34 PM
I leveled to high 30s on release, as a cleric. I leveled with Arzak and friends. Faerie was started right after some xp nerf happened and people were complaining on the boards, then once I got into my 50s the servers were DDoSed and they added in that huge bonus that was just removed.
That exp nerf wasn't as bad as this one. I think that was from 300% to 150%. This one was from 200% to 0%. I don't really care as much because I already have 4 lvl 60s. I do care about the population getting shit on though.
heartbrand
02-25-2014, 01:35 PM
I highly doubt there are people sitting there going "well they changed exp from 400% to 0% and I was going to tough it out but then I saw some threads criticizing this change so I'm out now"
Azure
02-25-2014, 01:42 PM
I do not like seeing all the negativity directed at the staff. People really do need to learn to make 1 rnf post and keep it there. And not accuse the staff of hurting the box.
There's a reason there is a term for "dramatically leaving a community". I find the attacks on the staff and the server and EQ's spirit in general far more damaging then any sane debate over mechanics changes. Which in total, there was 3 posts over the last weak on.
Not_Kazowi
02-25-2014, 01:42 PM
Just makes no sense man. Why nerf it until you are ready to implement alternative bonuses. Why nerf it so much?
Don't get it bros
Faerie
02-25-2014, 01:47 PM
First off you can't talk shit and ask stupid questions like why are you here and do you enjoy the game to the guy PLing up all the noobs, recruiting people from blue, offering raiding to those that would not otherwise have it, etc. Obviously the new rules are hurting his goals of providing a raid experience for his guild.
Who are you on this server right now? What level/class/guild are you in and how have these rules helped or hurt your ability to make in impact on this server? Would anyone notice if you stopped logging in?
You can ask those question for anyone for the exp nerfs and it would be the same outcome - non factor.
There are 3 people on this server that make a big impact on the community right now, Lite, HB and Nizzar. Their play times are absurd and they impact almost every player on this server whether for the better or worse. I know 2/3 don't like the exp nerf, not sure about Lite or if it really effects him and his friends.
Whether it is complaining out of frustration or making their opinions known to urge the devs to make a change going forward that is what happens on forums. Get over it.
I haven't had the means to do what Heartbrand has, this is true. But any small effort made toward helping the population is one worth recognizing and celebrating, and believe me when I say that I did try.
That exp nerf wasn't as bad as this one. I think that was from 300% to 150%. This one was from 200% to 0%. I don't really care as much because I already have 4 lvl 60s. I do care about the population getting shit on though.
If you don't care so much, why are you still here complaining about it? If amount of time spent exping lends credibility to a poster, then I'd like to say that Kimm and Chewie each deleveled me a few levels. I made 46-51 on Faerie 3 times and didn't throw a hissy fit over it.
I highly doubt there are people sitting there going "well they changed exp from 400% to 0% and I was going to tough it out but then I saw some threads criticizing this change so I'm out now"
Don't sell yourself short, Heartbrand. You have a great amount of influence here, as do we all communally. By blowing up over this we certainly are damaging the population. If the server generally accepted this decision that will not be reversed gracefully and positively, other players would pick up on that. I feel I learned something that expresses this in psychological terms, back in high school psych.
Just makes no sense man. Why nerf it until you are ready to implement alternative bonuses. Why nerf it so much?
Don't get it bros
EQ was never supposed to be instant 50 and FPS pvp 24/7.
Juhstin
02-25-2014, 01:49 PM
And since most of the population here is 50+, why do we feel as though we need a bonus at this range? There are groups to be found 50+ no matter what class you are or what guild you're in. The entire point of the bonus is to assist those players struggling because of the low population.
Azure
02-25-2014, 01:50 PM
What school do they teach psych in at highschool lawl...?
Not_Kazowi
02-25-2014, 01:51 PM
I haven't had the means to do what Heartbrand has, this is true. But any small effort made toward helping the population is one worth recognizing and celebrating, and believe me when I say that I did try.
If you don't care so much, why are you still here complaining about it? If amount of time spent exping lends credibility to a poster, then I'd like to say that Kimm and Chewie each deleveled me a few levels. I made 46-51 on Faerie 3 times and didn't throw a hissy fit over it.
Don't sell yourself short, Heartbrand. You have a great amount of influence here, as do we all communally. By blowing up over this we certainly are damaging the population. If the server generally accepted this decision that will not be reversed gracefully and positively, other players would pick up on that. I feel I learned something that expresses this in psychological terms, back in high school psych.
EQ was never supposed to be instant 50 and FPS pvp 24/7.
Didn't realize with bonus it was instant 50. I remember still having to level? I don't want to spend 3 hours getting 6% xp bro. It's not easy to find groups all the time.
Nirgon
02-25-2014, 01:53 PM
Should not have rerolled wood elf dawgsky
Azure
02-25-2014, 01:57 PM
You don't really want to know my story Faerie :P lol
heartbrand
02-25-2014, 02:01 PM
Have a full group in the hole currently, 61 mobs was 1%. Three hybrids in the group.
Not_Kazowi
02-25-2014, 02:02 PM
Should not have rerolled wood elf dawgsky
I'm level 56 so it's not as bad for me as the newer players but even if I was 60 I would feel the same way. I got a couple RL friends that won't play anymore now that xp was nerfed so much.
Faerie
02-25-2014, 02:02 PM
Have a full group in the hole currently, 61 mobs was 1%. Three hybrids in the group.
Makin' progress!
mrproudbeard
02-25-2014, 02:03 PM
It should be pretty telling that the flaming and rhetoric over the topic of the XP nerf is WAY LOWER than your average thread on the red forums. Players across the guild spectrum are speaking up and saying the same thing. This is a bad move, giving reasons why it's a bad move, asking for some thoughts/reasoning behind the change. Meanwhile, staff locking threads with no feedback and telling us the change is non-negotiable. "Trust us" says Deru, who just 2 days ago was getting called out for trolling/being unprofessional/whatever. You can't reasonably expect trust to flow from the players when you stoop to the level of the community and join in the trolling fray. "Working on it" says Sirken, regarding tweaks to compensate for the XP nerfs in some way. No concrete plans just lots of maybes. Patches fall between 6 weeks and 3 months on the server, pretty easy to look at the history of "patch notes" threads to see this trend. There is no remedy coming in the short term guys. Don't hold your breath for it.
Hope this doesn't get me banned, hard to know what's "too critical" now.
HippoNipple
02-25-2014, 02:04 PM
Have a full group in the hole currently, 61 mobs was 1%. Three hybrids in the group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mNqoCYQ0Q
Twainz
02-25-2014, 02:05 PM
I haven't had the means to do what Heartbrand has, this is true. But any small effort made toward helping the population is one worth recognizing and celebrating, and believe me when I say that I did try.
If you don't care so much, why are you still here complaining about it? If amount of time spent exping lends credibility to a poster, then I'd like to say that Kimm and Chewie each deleveled me a few levels. I made 46-51 on Faerie 3 times and didn't throw a hissy fit over it.
Don't sell yourself short, Heartbrand. You have a great amount of influence here, as do we all communally. By blowing up over this we certainly are damaging the population. If the server generally accepted this decision that will not be reversed gracefully and positively, other players would pick up on that. I feel I learned something that expresses this in psychological terms, back in high school psych.
EQ was never supposed to be instant 50 and FPS pvp 24/7.
I didn't realize giving my opinion on a message board was complaining. My bad.
Sektor
02-25-2014, 02:06 PM
another troll post
Gaffin 7.0
02-25-2014, 02:08 PM
forum was better before faerie came back
Faerie
02-25-2014, 02:10 PM
I didn't realize giving my opinion on a message board was complaining. My bad.
Maybe I was too harsh, sorry. I didn't appreciate that you approached me with an ad hominem attempt to discredit my opinions based on my leveling experiences.
Juhstin
02-25-2014, 02:13 PM
Have a full group in the hole currently, 61 mobs was 1%. Three hybrids in the group.
Ouch
Juhstin
02-25-2014, 02:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4mNqoCYQ0Q
Chortled
Sektor
02-25-2014, 02:27 PM
forum was better before faerie came back
god gaffin I luv u
Twainz
02-25-2014, 02:50 PM
Maybe I was too harsh, sorry. I didn't appreciate that you approached me with an ad hominem attempt to discredit my opinions based on my leveling experiences.
Do I wish there was an exp bonus so I can level more alts? Hell yes.
Do I want the most recent exp bonus removed so all the new players quit? Hell no.
Sektor
02-25-2014, 02:52 PM
Do I wish there was an exp bonus so I can level more alts? Hell yes.
Do I want the most recent exp bonus removed so all the new players quit? Hell no.
This. Tired of these trolls posts from faerie,azure, bamzal etc etc. 97% of the server agree that nerfing the xp bonus is a community killer.
Azure
02-25-2014, 02:58 PM
It's not a troll. I'm actually pretty chill about this whole thing and am genuinely concerned at the rage directed towards the GMs and community in general.
Cause I've had fun on this box and I am a "non-factor".
The non-system players are in favor of this. We aren't hurt by it. We want people to have an opportunity we think they've been missing out on because of the overall atmosphere that this negativity and need for high exp brings about.
Squire
02-25-2014, 02:58 PM
everybody is a factor
Sektor
02-25-2014, 03:02 PM
Its about the journey. Go play ez server for ez exp NAMEEN
I'm 60 nawmeen?
Sektor
02-25-2014, 03:04 PM
Retroactive exp fix inc
naw
Tassador
02-25-2014, 03:07 PM
I will be giving 5k pvp to the 300 person to log on tonight. Red 1999 says 299 population you log on you send me a pm I give you plats
Eslade
02-25-2014, 03:15 PM
It's not a troll. I'm actually pretty chill about this whole thing and am genuinely concerned at the rage directed towards the GMs and community in general.
Cause I've had fun on this box and I am a "non-factor".
The non-system players are in favor of this. We aren't hurt by it. We want people to have an opportunity we think they've been missing out on because of the overall atmosphere that this negativity and need for high exp brings about.
I don't have much play time and I'm a fellow non factor. With that said, you should speak for yourself. Unless someone has at least 2 hours straight to dedicate to eq, they might as well not log in. I was in a solb duo for 3 hours straight and got about 20% xp at 52. I'm definitely not in favor of this. I am however looking forward to what derub has planned.
On the plus side, a lot of people will discover sunlight.
pras
Azure
02-25-2014, 03:21 PM
Well I cant speak for everyone, but not everyone is against this. Particularly the less vocal players. Or players not in the top tier guilds.
Bazia
02-25-2014, 03:24 PM
Everyone is against this except 2 players who will never be relevant in the community with exp or not.
This change is absolutely retarded and everyone who knows anything about this server after playing here for a long time advised against this.
I already have a level 60 but it takes more exp to go from 56-60 then 1-56. Nerfing that exp is a death sentence with the pretty frequent ganking and attacks that goes on in high end zones since most the server is already 60.
This change was basically a large "fuck you, I know better" to the long time community members when the consensus was about 90% that this change would wreak havoc on the population.
Kergan
02-25-2014, 03:28 PM
Have a full group in the hole currently, 61 mobs was 1%. Three hybrids in the group.
I read this and died a little inside.
HippoNipple
02-25-2014, 03:34 PM
lol halp my group with 3 hybrids isn't leveling every 5 blue cons we kill
Big difference between 6100 and 5 blue cons.
Bazia
02-25-2014, 03:38 PM
After the Kunark Launch where exp was like 600% for 10-12 days and tons of people hit 60 in like 5 days any reduction in exp is retarded.
Exp is one of those things where you should be really cautious in raising it but once it's there you only cause big problems by scaling it back.
HippoNipple
02-25-2014, 03:38 PM
Jesus these people against exp bonuses are a smart bunch.
Bazia
02-25-2014, 03:42 PM
I can still hit 60 in like a month and a half with a CLR but sorry newbies y'all fucked.
Twainz
02-25-2014, 03:44 PM
My GM AoN so good.
Bamz4l
02-25-2014, 03:44 PM
EverQuest is the Flappy Bird of the MMORPG genre. You guys are trying to turn it into Mario with ur exp bonuses etc
Not_Kazowi
02-25-2014, 03:46 PM
EverQuest is the Flappy Bird of the MMORPG genre. You guys are trying to turn it into Mario with ur exp bonuses etc
Wut?
Bamz4l
02-25-2014, 03:50 PM
Flappy Bird so challenging that people were sending the creator death threats. Kinda like wats about to happen here
Eslade
02-25-2014, 03:59 PM
Flappy Bird so challenging that people were sending the creator death threats. Kinda like wats about to happen here
naw,
No one is sending death threats. Most of us are just scratching our heads about the decision. We finally have new players joining thanks to hb and red dawn's efforts and then we're hit with an xp scaling with no warning other than comments by gms about how insane xp is here on red.
I still think this is a wait and see moment though, I still hope the gms have a plan to implement after taking the bonus. Otherwise it's back to soloquest for us non 60's.
Lightatom
02-25-2014, 04:01 PM
I highly doubt there are people sitting there going "well they changed exp from 400% to 0% and I was going to tough it out but then I saw some threads criticizing this change so I'm out now"
Wrong, Why would people wanna play on a server ran by 2 shits that don't give 2 shits?
Lightatom
02-25-2014, 04:12 PM
SZ had legal trains, which I think was the main reason for including a very small bonus.
And since most of the population here is 50+, why do we feel as though we need a bonus at this range? There are groups to be found 50+ no matter what class you are or what guild you're in. The entire point of the bonus is to assist those players struggling because of the low population.
Uhhh, Idk how longs its been since you've played but I've been in the low lvl 50's for weeks LFG, possibly over a month now and have only found like 3 groups. It's just log in and log right back off everytime unless the guild is raiding.
AmukTZ
02-25-2014, 04:13 PM
Jesus these people against exp bonuses are a smart bunch.
There is 3 people posting against exp bonus.. wait 4. Azuure, Chewie, Bamzal, and Faerie. Guess whats common among them all? All got to their current level with exp bonuses.
AmukTZ
02-25-2014, 04:14 PM
It should be pretty telling that the flaming and rhetoric over the topic of the XP nerf is WAY LOWER than your average thread on the red forums. Players across the guild spectrum are speaking up and saying the same thing. This is a bad move, giving reasons why it's a bad move, asking for some thoughts/reasoning behind the change. Meanwhile, staff locking threads with no feedback and telling us the change is non-negotiable. "Trust us" says Deru, who just 2 days ago was getting called out for trolling/being unprofessional/whatever. You can't reasonably expect trust to flow from the players when you stoop to the level of the community and join in the trolling fray. "Working on it" says Sirken, regarding tweaks to compensate for the XP nerfs in some way. No concrete plans just lots of maybes. Patches fall between 6 weeks and 3 months on the server, pretty easy to look at the history of "patch notes" threads to see this trend. There is no remedy coming in the short term guys. Don't hold your breath for it.
Hope this doesn't get me banned, hard to know what's "too critical" now.
best post.
Twainz
02-25-2014, 04:14 PM
There is 3 people posting against exp bonus.. wait 4. Azuure, Chewie, Bamzal, and Faerie. Guess whats common among them all? All got to their current level with exp bonuses.
2 of them only inhabit guk and the other 2 don't even play, unless Red Dawn is doing sky belts :D
Galacticus
02-25-2014, 04:18 PM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5514509_700b.jpg
VincentVolaju
02-25-2014, 04:57 PM
The scaling bonus from 1-50 is still in effect. We don't know what it is and how it scales though beyond previous explanations lost to the forum entropy here.
Yes we do, it starts at 100% now at level one, instead of 400% like before. Losing some % per level, scaling down to no bonus at level 50. Its basically 3x slower to level 1-50 then it used to be, then it becomes blue-like from 50-60.
Its pretty brutal dude, especially when theres only 70 people online and the majority of those 70 people are level 50+, and the ones who arent 50+ are mostly solo classes, maybe 1 cleric or enchanter here or there. Grouping still isnt really an option for the 1-40 ish crowd unless youre in a guild like Red Dawn who try to help out / group members up. Though even then, when you finally do get a group, maybe... its 3x slower then it used to be =/.
Honestly Id be fine with a small XP bonus from 50-60, assuming there was still a fat xp bonus from 1-50. At least if you can get to 50 in reasonable amount of time then you can still be useful to your guild / friends etc. You can still go on raids at 50, you are still in a pretty decent +/- PvP range, most classes have the majority of their main spells / abilities aside from a couple upgrades etc. I can understand slow progression from 50-60, but I cant understand slow progression from 1-50, given the current population and class balance of the server. There just isnt enough "group" classes out there, because there isnt enough people playing them, because most people play solo classes because thats the only way they can be sure that when they get on, they can start leveling and not have to sit in OOC looking for a group, that most likely doesnt exist until you get to 40+.
I feel like all this patch really did was hurt the new players who were coming to the server, and discouraged the the higher level players from making alts to help level with the new players, especially when there is no group bonus added with this xp nerf. It unmotivated a lot of those new people who were playing those solo classes, because now they dont have much to look forward to. They now know that they are leveling much much slower then they were last week, having to invest 3x as much time solo leveling, which was already boring enough with the exp bonus but had to do it because not enough players online to form full groups together in all diff level brackets.
My suggestion would be add a FAT group bonus per group member added to the party to give a big incentive to making group classes, something like 50-100% bonus per group member. I think that would encourage some of those people who are forced into playing solo classes in order to level, to reroll some of the group classes they would probably rather play. It would also motivated level 60s to roll some alts up and make full leveling partys with there newly joined guild mates, giving them groups as well. The solo class players are still able to solo level whenever they please and have the advantage of logging in and being able to level right away, even if it is a little slower then grouping would be, but that imo is the give and take of solo vs group.
I dunno Ive only been on red for 2-3 weeks now so I am sure my opinion doesnt matter very much but just my 2 cents.
Infectious
02-25-2014, 05:03 PM
Faerie post who you are ingame. Before you were laughed away.. Before faerie.. Yes that secrets person your hiding. You played here for a short time over a year ago. This server just becomes more and more bullshit everyday and unless you play, you wouldnt understand so it here it is. Pop is at 80, they give us an exp bonus. Pop goes to 180. They remove exp bonus for the health of the server, pop goes down.
This has happened twice already. But its for the health of the server? Yes the health of the server that is gona be merged to teams.... The health of the server that has people banned for mq/boxing and allowed to reroll. THE HEALTH OF THE.... Fuck outta here lets just stop the jokes and have a real gm like rogean/nilbog explain this shit. All we get is deru who can lock threads and come not chime in any info .
Bazia
02-25-2014, 05:27 PM
I think Nirgon made the point that exp was reduced so bans hurt more and therefore are a better deterrent to exploiting/cheating.
Only logical explanation.
So yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and say thanks shitbirds.
:(
Faerie
02-25-2014, 05:33 PM
Faerie post who you are ingame. Before you were laughed away.. Before faerie.. Yes that secrets person your hiding.
Nellodee <Spear of the Nation>
Red 99. Dissent will be crushed. Fawning crap like this stays open to all.
Telron
02-25-2014, 06:07 PM
And you know, if we all took it in stride and went with it with a positive attitude, powering through those levels wouldn't feel like such a chore. If you don't like playing the game, why are you here?
Why does everyone seem to feel entitled to a level 60? It's supposed to be an accomplishment of time commitment, and it's supposed to happen gradually over time.
I like it. = ) The problem with the server isn't that the XP is slow, its that there is no one to group with. I don't think the XP nerf helps but its not game breaking either. 90% of the population is in the healthiest bracket of players (50-60) and should stop the QQ and do more PEW PEW. This is Everquest yo!
HippoNipple
02-25-2014, 06:12 PM
Got prof?
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dethbringre
02-25-2014, 07:55 PM
I believe the scaling system is a great idea, leave it how it is. However, implementing a group exp bonus from 50-60 would be great. As many have stated before, the majority of the population is already in the 50-60 range so why not? And the scaling bonus fits this perfectly, it allows you to get up to the population rather quickly, learning your character along the way, then providing an incentive to group up when shit starts getting fun anyway.
Azure
02-25-2014, 08:20 PM
I would like it to scale, but be at 200% 1-20, 100% (2x) at 21-40, normal 1x at 41-51, then 300% 51-60. Would seem like a reasonable rates.
Remember, levels are nonlinear. And the low ones will blow by anyway no matter what exp 1-30. +/-4 levels for pvp range, because that will mitigate the issues with twinks.
Contrary to popular believe 2 people can kill a person with a fungi if they can corner/lock them down. Especially if that person is within 2 or 3 levels.
sprinkle16
02-25-2014, 08:37 PM
What school do they teach psych in at highschool lawl...?
Olympic heights
represent. class of 1999 huggies Red as fuck
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