View Full Version : Was xp nerfed
Tradesonred
02-24-2014, 08:38 AM
Was it
Get ready for population increase amirite
Dat low level enjoy the grouping journey
Cant wait for these sweet 6 player groups in crushbone to happen
Silent
02-24-2014, 08:42 AM
I was about to make a similar post, I am getting 1-2% a kill on high blue cons. and just got 3% off a even con in unrest. Yes I am a hybrid, But not 3 days ago I was getting 3-5% per blue kill on the same mobs at the level and upwards of 6% on even/yellow/red con kills. If exp was not in fact reduced, Then the patch either reverted the bonus or bugged it out. Either way I would have expected a exp nerf to be in the notes or somewhere announced. Can any GM's enlighten on this? Because I know 100% the exp I was getting per kill prior to patch and it does not match.
Smedy
02-24-2014, 08:44 AM
xp nerf will bring people back because the biggest issue with low pop was there's no one to level with! Now with xp nerf we make sure all newbies are stuck at low levels which means issue has been solved and case is closed
/science
Tradesonred
02-24-2014, 08:48 AM
xp nerf will bring people back because the biggest issue with low pop was there's no one to level with! Now with xp nerf we make sure all newbies are stuck at low levels which means issue has been solved and case is closed
/science
Right im sure all the lowbies groups will profit from me not logging on my alts
Tradesonred
02-24-2014, 09:04 AM
I would have agreed to a xp nerf experiment after Velious launch, after an information blitz that might have brought pop numbers to 500 at peak hours regularly, but if this isnt a bug this and stays on it will make the population drop.
Please tell me youll come to your senses quickly and do the right thing
I had finally given up the hope that the server will be wiped and started playing on red again. The main thing, probably the only thing that convinced me to play on red again is that the pop regularly hits 150+
With the box hitting single digits again? 50-75 peaks? Not so sure
King Chip
02-24-2014, 09:08 AM
do the right thing
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/DO_THE_RIGHT_THING.jpg
Silent
02-24-2014, 09:16 AM
I would have agreed to a xp nerf experiment after Velious launch, after an information blitz that might have brought pop numbers to 500 at peak hours regularly, but if this isnt a bug this and stays on it will make the population drop.
Please tell me youll come to your senses quickly and do the right thing
I had finally given up the hope that the server will be wiped and started playing on red again. The main thing, probably the only thing that convinced me to play on red again is that the pop regularly hits 150+
With the box hitting single digits again? 50-75 peaks? Not so sure
Was 25-28 on for a few hours this morning, but I guess everyone is asleep on pixel dreams.
Tradesonred
02-24-2014, 09:18 AM
I mean the pop drop isnt immediate, thats the worst about it, its like a nasty shaman dot you dont see coming.
Once the population snowballs down, its not sure these people are coming back, youre sort of throwing out of the window months of efforts to try to make it go up.
Juhstin
02-24-2014, 10:08 AM
Yeah XP is harsh. I'm a neckbeard and will still grind it out but not enjoying it.
Azure
02-24-2014, 10:17 AM
/confirmed super madzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
/pras the GMs
don your tinfoil bodyarmor cause hats aint going to be enough with tradesonread QQing like a Tomato mashin lemon tree.
Faerie
02-24-2014, 10:48 AM
You guys are paranoid.
AmukTZ
02-24-2014, 11:07 AM
Xp is less that's for certain
Not_Kazowi
02-24-2014, 11:16 AM
Wouldn't they put it in the patch notes if they changed it?
Zalaerian
02-24-2014, 11:19 AM
Sat in hs for 3 hours last night in west chain pulling...made 6% in 57....xp nerfed
Squire
02-24-2014, 11:21 AM
as a paladin who wears patchwork for the most part while sololing through hell levels i support this..
lol wait, no i don't. this sux.
Azure
02-24-2014, 11:21 AM
Sat in hs for 3 hours last night in west chain pulling...made 6% in 57....xp nerfed
I sure hope u don't quit cause that whole 3 levels is gonna make a difference in your DKP.
I mean, 1 day for 57-60 is worth destroying 1-50 amiright?
as a paladin who wears patchwork for the most part while sololing through hell levels i support this..
lol wait, no i don't. this sux.
your screwed eitherway dood EXP sux on hybrids and it sux to play a melee char without at least some mid 30's gear and a solid 2hander
I've played most classes on this box to their 51 - some untwinked like ranger, rogue, war.
It's not ezmode and never will be. Even twinked it's always going to be slower than a necro.
Stop whining and start playing the game, making a network of friends. Or doing what everyone else does and buy/camp some gear.
Having no low end game == wrecked economy no one cares about a hybrid in patchwork if they are already 60 and a necro.
If your stuck at 20 go hang in CB and kill Ironlion, if your stuck at 30 go hang in unrest, find a healer or wizard and kill rogues with epics. It's totally doable to 2v1 those guys in patchwork.
Nawww but most people on this box are the type who run/log/die in 2 hits cause they werent ready for pvp, so need the 400% exp mod handicap to feel like real people.
At 40, there's guk :P
This is EQ (sparta) handholding of newbz needs 2 end.
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i mean... u don't even need to be in range 2 someone if yoru cool, I could prob ask chewie to pvp and OOR heal me on punkin and he'd be down just to make u mad squire.
Zalaerian
02-24-2014, 11:24 AM
I sure hope u don't quit cause that whole 3 levels is gonna make a difference in your DKP.
I mean, 1 day for 57-60 is worth destroying 1-50 amiright?
NAw alrdy got my dkp for 60 on the necro...u feelers?
Juhstin
02-24-2014, 11:24 AM
Wouldn't they put it in the patch notes if they changed it?
No because it'd scare new players away if they saw in notes XP being reduced.
Zalaerian
02-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Me chuck and lewis also solod to 50 on our clerics at launch...pretty sure I have the will power for anything now
Kergan
02-24-2014, 11:26 AM
GMs said yesterday in game the XP was NOT nerfed...at least on purpose...
Not_Kazowi
02-24-2014, 11:26 AM
O fuk bros. They rly nerf xp? I still got 56-60 to do ;(
Azure
02-24-2014, 11:38 AM
Also a good compromise - just take the exp out for the low game (people will hardly notice) and leave it in for the 51+ group for mental welfare.
Believe it or not, I want u guyz to be happy. I just think it shouldn't be at the expense of the server/everyone/box/classic.
And TBH I don't think hybrid exp penalties are good either.
Kergan
02-24-2014, 11:40 AM
I'd rather see exp reduced under 50 and increased over 50. I honestly think a lot of people "hit the wall" at 52ish because they are leveling slow as shit plus have about 100x more PVP to deal with.
Zalaerian
02-24-2014, 11:40 AM
Low end is who needs it more...w/o plvl and twinkage 1-30 is brutal for new players
Azure
02-24-2014, 11:42 AM
Low end is who needs it more...w/o plvl and twinkage 1-30 is brutal for new players
So move the wall to 30 instead of 52. 30 is a solid level to stall people at for pvp/grps. And most classes can farm their own gear at 30~ so even if exp is slow progression is to be had.
I've had a lot of good groups 30+ on this server because 30 is a hell level. Seems people do seek out groups at those levels in high ZEM zones. There's always pvp 2 be had while some 30+ grinds out gatorscales in guk or some melee kiting in MM or some clr soloing in unrest :P
Couple that with no hybrid penalty + hotzone or two and I think server will feel a bit more alive.
Kergan
02-24-2014, 11:49 AM
I just don't get this mentality. People act like when they nerf the experience it will actually attract players to form these non-existent groups. You need the players first or all it will do is slow people down plvling their 5th alt.
Not_Kazowi
02-24-2014, 11:51 AM
Yeah stop messing with xp and leave it alone. It was fine.. If xp bonus was removed please put it back in GMs
HippoNipple
02-24-2014, 11:52 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
http://nachomanlance.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/dwight_crying.jpg
Sad to see it go. Hopefully the decision is reversed.
No because it'd scare new players away if they saw in notes XP being reduced.
This is actually true. Not sure how increased XP hurts the server, but I would surmise that any new player starting here would want the bonus of increased XP.
scarletghost
02-24-2014, 12:27 PM
I thought the EXP was slower.
That's a good thing. Prob with Live is how long does it take to lvl up? No time.
Slow EXP = Original
Love Hurts. So many people like to B & C about things not Original. Who's B & Cing now?
Give us more Original :D
scarletghost
02-24-2014, 12:29 PM
This is actually true. Not sure how increased XP hurts the server, but I would surmise that any new player starting here would want the bonus of increased XP.
Slow exp good for PVP, cause you end up with large tiers of lvls. instead of everyone on a few tiers.
Kergan
02-24-2014, 12:29 PM
I think it is a big risk to ask such a huge time investment from new players just to catch up and play with 95% of the population.
What I would do is actually announce a 1 week bonus exp period after which all exp nerfs go into place. That would attract some players to form these groups required to get the group bonus.
Azure
02-24-2014, 12:32 PM
XP bonus is like Abacab going around his garage box giving out epics, fun, but ruins the experience.
Kergan
02-24-2014, 12:33 PM
Slow exp good for PVP, cause you end up with large tiers of lvls. instead of everyone on a few tiers.
That's not really the way it works here though. It's pretty much 0 PVP outside of getting griefed by supertwinks, then you hit 52 and get your shit pushed in all over the place. At that same time your exp rate is cut in half and the increased modifier each level turns every level into a classic EQ hell level, including two "double hell" levels at 54 and 59.
It basically is like this:
Level fast as hell (too fast probably) then slam the breaks on just as you enter the general (bloodthirsty) population. I'd be willing to bet that more people quit after hitting 52 then any other level.
Derubael
02-24-2014, 12:35 PM
You guys still have an XP bonus.
Less imagined QQ and more PEWPEW.
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