SoE Entertaining a new server(PoP locked?)

[Vetiver]

Same title and thread from EQMac forum.

http://www.eqmac.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12609

[Asap]

Would play

[Pheer]

PoP locked you say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYMaSoXQUM

[Rellapse36]

Would play

[Kazzoz]

^

[Swish]

SoE brings down servers as fast as they go up.

Trakanon (the last blue server to go up in 2008) lasted all of a few months before they decided to nuke it, move people to Tunare and do progression servers instead.

Mayong was another example.

Don't have any faith in a server's sustainability, they won't honor it if there's not an abundance of interest.

[Swish]

PS:-

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No thanks... :rolleyes:

[Daldaen]

Cash shops are the death of real MMOs.

[Asap]

lmfao @ the fire beetle

[Telin]

I doubt they would use the old code, so it wouldn't look or feel like classic EQ. So I wouldn't be interested.

[Sinestria]

It would just be the same lameness as Fippy. Get rid of Station Cash and Boxing and they may have a playable idea

[Laugher]

Would play, but would need old freeport

[Daldaen]

I doubt they would use the old code, so it wouldn't look or feel like classic EQ. So I wouldn't be interested.

I've posted a few times in the thread that using Al'Kabors codebase is a requirement for this to be a big success. Haven't heard anything though.

And no Boxing handles itself if you charge decent subscription fees.

[Uteunayr]

I've posted a few times in the thread that using Al'Kabors codebase is a requirement for this to be a big success. Haven't heard anything though.

And no Boxing handles itself if you charge decent subscription fees.

They could treat the server like they do some of the servers they have up now, where you need to be gold ($15 a month, or an ingame Krono) to log into it.

That would be neat to see.

[Sinestria]

I've posted a few times in the thread that using Al'Kabors codebase is a requirement for this to be a big success. Haven't heard anything though.

And no Boxing handles itself if you charge decent subscription fees.

Did not help on Fippy. They actually encouraged it with the dumb fucking "refer a friend" program

[Reguiy]

No clue why they would keep Luclin but take out PoP. Luclin was shit and PoP was great. May as well extend the timeline to one more xpac.

[Sinestria]

Luclin more classic than PoP

[loramin]

It would be just like P99 except with Luclin and PoP!

... and fees, and terrible SOE GMs, and terrible new SOE code, and pay for play SOE cash, and ...

Damn, it sounded so appealing at first.

[SamwiseRed]

i mite fuck with it. pop only cool raiding era.

[Rec]

woo this server is going to be awesome!

IT WILL HAVE /MELODY!

[Calabee]

/melody is not PoP command

[Rec]

all new eq live servers have melody regardless of timeline. it's bard wonderfulness

[Calabee]

ya i should sue sony's for not putting it like that at the very start... after 5-6 years of barding i need a new left wrist, fawk j00 carpal tunnel syndrome

[khanable]

gonna avoid this one like yendor avoids girls

[element08]

boxing and cash shop not worth /melody

[Artaenc]

Would play

[Rec]

and it will have audio triggers!

[Striiker]

The problem is that Sony has stated several times that they never saved the original Everquest code (WTF Sony?!?!). This is why the original progression servers were horrible with code, quests and instances available from day 1 which was never in classic EQ and hell yeah guilds took advantage of that!
To be honest, the best realization of classic EQ is right here with P1999. There are a lot of issues which I would fix in the gaming environment but the underlying server is in my opinion, close enough..

[Vetiver]

Boycotting P99 until red spell gem backgrounds fixed.

[Vetiver]

No seriously. Is there a way to fix this? If not, that stinks.

[Potus]

All it takes is one look.

One look.

You see what they did to Freeport and you can never play EQlive again.

Never again. Never forget. Never forgive.

[Rec]

No one would ever go to freeport if they had PoP

[BahamutDF]

Cash shops are the death of real MMOs.

[Grubbz]

PoP was best raiding expansion to any mmo ever made (TBC 2nd) and anyone who says otherwise is just a butt hurt nostalgic fanboy.

[BahamutDF]

PoP was best raiding expansion to any mmo ever made (TBC 2nd) and anyone who says otherwise is just a butt hurt nostalgic fanboy.

While I appreciate you being considerate of the physical condition of my derriere, I'd have to respectfully disagree.

[Faerie]

Why don't they ever experiment with pvp servers?

[Bazia]

Never play a live server guys, you can literally FRAPS people popping into zones with MQ and the GMs don't give a single fuck

[Lisset]

I read the log and I don't see anything that leads me to believe they're doing anything more than just asking questions.

[NextGenesis88]

This actually would be a cool idea if they would truly put in half the work the guys do here at P1999. I feel that is a problem with SoE. I mean it's kinda silly that guys here can pretty successfully put together a classic server, but SoE can't/wont? They even said it themselves, "well actually this wouldn't take much effort". [regarding this PoP locked idea] Well you see that's the root of the problem fellas... I find it funny that they think the effort put into an official TRUE classic server wouldn't be worth it and "there isn't enough interest"... yeah right son. You know how many people are going on these videos and wishing they could have this more than anything? Well those are the people we need to inform about P99 because the devs and GMs here actually have some brains.

[Potus]

PoP was actually really bad and probably drove the final nail into the coffin that was EQ. I mean SoL was atrocious, so it's natural some people think PoP was good by comparison.

[Bazia]

PoP was great for raiding, terrible for PoK

[innocent51]

PoK books, spell vendors, trainers and instenced PoT... PoP was the 1st expand of "new wave EQ".
I very nostalgic of PoP times but I think it doesnt makes sense to stop at PoP, either stop before, either stop after.

[Bazia]

Launch PoP without PoK

So much content

[Sturgeon]

It won't last with all the new features they'd carry over and yeah... station cash.

[Gadwen]

Would play, and wouldn't give a shit if it was 100% accurate or not. If I enjoy myself, the world will deem it a success.

[Origin]

I'd hit it.

[Ugrask]

I'd give it a shot, fifteen bucks to attempt to enjoy something for a month would be worth it. Fuck I've spent that on movies that have been horrid and waste two hours of time.

Hell I'm still current with expansions on EQ and EQ2, just no interest in maxing out and raiding there.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Would play

[Gaffin 7.0]

PoP was best raiding expansion to any mmo ever made (TBC 2nd) and anyone who says otherwise is just a butt hurt nostalgic fanboy.

also +1

[Daldaen]

UF was an awesome raiding expansion too.

But PoP was #1 overall expansion easily. So much content, there was something like 100~ raid targets that were tuned for over 2-3 groups. No other expansion had that sort of depth.

[heartbrand]

UF was an awesome raiding expansion too.

But PoP was #1 overall expansion easily. So much content, there was something like 100~ raid targets that were tuned for over 2-3 groups. No other expansion had that sort of depth.

Finally downing brell was fucking amazzzing. As was the first creation (one of first to complete shawl 2.0 aww yisss)

[Swish]

Never play a live server guys, you can literally FRAPS people popping into zones with MQ and the GMs don't give a single fuck

A great point, 2008 (my final attempt at live) I remember seeing someone exploiting in The Hole to level quickly while afk.

Reported it, petitioned, mentioned it on the SOE forums.

Was there again 24 hours later...same guy still afk and XP'ing.

[Daldaen]

Finally downing brell was fucking amazzzing. As was the first creation (one of first to complete shawl 2.0 aww yisss)

Brell was pretty fucking ridiculous. Those splits absolutely crushed, and setting up a healing team that could keep them alive and handle the swaps was very challenging.

I think Creation trial was up there as my favorite win. Really pissed off they nerfed it the day or two before we beat it. We wiped at something like 10% on the final phase the day before it was nerfed.

But alas, that is what happens when your guild only raided 3-4 hours a night compared to the other guilds putting in 6 hour nights all week.

[heartbrand]

Brell was pretty fucking ridiculous. Those splits absolutely crushed, and setting up a healing team that could keep them alive and handle the swaps was very challenging.

I think Creation trial was up there as my favorite win. Really pissed off they nerfed it the day or two before we beat it. We wiped at something like 10% on the final phase the day before it was nerfed.

But alas, that is what happens when your guild only raided 3-4 hours a night compared to the other guilds putting in 6 hour nights all week.

I vaguely remember Ronak raging and calling the raid off at one point until nerf or something because we were regressing after doing it so many fucking times. Man eq was so much fun why did house of Thule and on have to suck?

[Archestratie]

Would play, but would need old freeport

For sure. I logged on my old toon about two years ago and went to Freeport. I had no idea what to do. I didn't recognize anything, so I just logged back off. It was really disapointing.

[Daldaen]

I vaguely remember Ronak raging and calling the raid off at one point until nerf or something because we were regressing after doing it so many fucking times. Man eq was so much fun why did house of Thule and on have to suck?

Don't recall that. But maybe during Fungus Grove when all the other guilds were spam hailing to bypass the hardest part of the raid... Lol exploits.

[Sinestria]

What expansion introduced Defiant Armor?

[Laugher]

I think SoD did the defiant? Not sure, lol @ the hole, 2012 leveled 60-70+1.5k aa afk at those two gargs down at the tunnel bottom, looted every 20 mins made like 50k a day while doing it :p saw someone get a suspension for training an afk leveler lol

[Sturgeon]

I wish they'd bring back Gates of Discord PvP server.

It was a permadeath (either PvE or PvP death set you back to level 1) open PvP server after level 5 that was opened to temporary promote the new expansion. Shit was cash and fun as hell.

Nothing like playing a Barbarian and ganking people in Blackburrow to make them start from level 1.

[Pringles]

TLP servers were pretty terrible - its new code with old content, so everything is no where near classic. This wouldnt be any different.... wouldn't be anything like what we have here.

[SamwiseRed]

For sure. I logged on my old toon about two years ago and went to Freeport. I had no idea what to do. I didn't recognize anything, so I just logged back off. It was really disapointing.

i may get flamed for this but its all good.

at first i thought the new FP was completely retarded. i hated it. then i started to really look around and it actually felt like a city. old FP never felt like a city to me much like qeynos. it was just a bunch of houses smashed into each other. the new FP walls and shit make it seem like a real trading port. anyways i like the new MT as well (misty thicket.) i think if you put nostalgia aside, the new zones are actually an improvement.

[mgellan]

and it will have audio triggers!

So get GamTextTriggers (http://gambosoft.com/Pages/GamTextTriggers_Features.htm)...

I can't stomach the thought of levelling a toon up to raiding level using the lead-'em-by-the-nose quest/mission/whatever WOWclone bullshit that Live is now.

No thanks from me.

Regards,
Mg

[SamwiseRed]

So get GamTextTriggers (http://gambosoft.com/Pages/GamTextTriggers_Features.htm)...

I can't stomach the thought of levelling a toon up to raiding level using the lead-'em-by-the-nose quest/mission/whatever WOWclone bullshit that Live is now.

No thanks from me.

Regards,
Mg

live is still grinding btw. there is quests for gear tho which is nice. finally everquest has quests.

[SamwiseRed]

newb armor quests were one of the smartest things they ever did. you cant change my mind on that one.

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[mnemonikos82]

If the server was accessible from Free2Play I would give it a shot. No reason not to.

[Alenon]

I'd pay monthly to play a pre pop server. But I certainly wouldn't want remodeled zones like Freeport. If the graphics are newer than when I quit I'd be fine with that too, but no new additions like guildhall crap

[Doze]

SoE brings down servers as fast as they go up.

Trakanon (the last blue server to go up in 2008) lasted all of a few months before they decided to nuke it, move people to Tunare and do progression servers instead.

Vox(regular blue server) was launched in spring 2012 and still going strong - although recent idiotic changes might change that (as it might for all the remaining servers).

[Doze]

What expansion introduced Defiant Armor?
The introduction of Defiant stuff wasn't tied to any expansion as such, but it was added sometime between launch of SoF and SoD ... and a 1000 curses on whoever decided this was good idea.

Defiant stuff aside then imo SoD was the last truly good expansion. It cleaned up most of the Discord Lore mess created by GoD+OoW and tied it to the events of PoP.

[Agno]

I would definitely play this server. Although they HAD this server, all they had to do was "officially" support accessing it via PC and charge a subscription fee and it would have been sustainable, I would think.

If they're going to use the same code base as live, they may as well lock us at Omens of War... say what you want, but LoY + LDoN + GoD + OoW were great expansions past PoP imo.

[Swish]

Vox(regular blue server) was launched in spring 2012 and still going strong - although recent idiotic changes might change that (as it might for all the remaining servers).

That's even more hilarious... why nuke Trakanon (a blue server) in its infancy and then "try again" a few years later.

Too much stupid with whoever is managing EQ1 these days.

[Doze]

That's even more hilarious... why nuke Trakanon (a blue server) in its infancy and then "try again" a few years later.
To be fair then Vox was launched along with EQ going F2P and suggested to new players to be the server to start on. Which is probably why at least half the - rather healthy - population on Vox are true EQ noobs.

Sadly all these new players are playing under the heavy weight of the massive easifications supplied by Defiant drops, marketplace purchaseables, mercenaries, hold-your-hand-questing etc. etc. - thus mostly entirely unable to play their class(es) at all well, let alone know anything about the zones and Lore of EQ in general.

[Ahldagor]

newb armor quests were one of the smartest things they ever did. you cant change my mind on that one.

so much this. and the quests took a good amount of time too.

[Agno]

so much this. and the quests took a good amount of time too.

Same here. I literally would create new characters just to do the newbie armor quests when I wanted a break from my main. Along the way I asked a high level for help... one thing led to another, we became good friends and she was my EQ Sugar Momma. I leveled up with her and her boyfriends' help and started raiding PoP... great times were had!

[nilzark]

Never again. Never forget. Never forgive.

Potus is right. Don't believe the hype. P99 last best hope for classicishness EQ. Stick with it.

[Ahldagor]

Same here. I literally would create new characters just to do the newbie armor quests when I wanted a break from my main. Along the way I asked a high level for help... one thing led to another, we became good friends and she was my EQ Sugar Momma. I leveled up with her and her boyfriends' help and started raiding PoP... great times were had!

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