PRAS THE GRAND MASTER

[lite]

Grats on your Dragon Hero bracer. May your commitment to never doing Nihilum's bidding continue to bring you good fortune.

LONG LIVE THE GRAND MASTER FOR A MILLION YEARS TO COME!

[Silent]

Grats Colgate

[Colgate]

well it's slathar's

[Nocsucow]

PRAS

[Clark]

Congratz!

[iiNGloriouS]

well it's slathar's

Pee on it. Display your dominance.

[patchday]

DEM PIXELS

[Sektor]

grats colgate

[Tassador]

just glad he didnt quit -1 on the pop could be plug pulling times

[Twainz]

Good thing the guy that logs on once a week won some items. Bet Andis was happy about this.

[Sturgeon]

Pras the good man

[LulzSect]

grats blubie

[Slathar]

Good thing the guy that logs on once a week won some items. Bet Andis was happy about this.

I won the random, which everyone received, then loaned it to Colgate. Shut your greasy mouth and go back to your miserable existence.

[Kergan]

Random = fairest loot system.

[Stasis01]

Good thing the guy that logs on once a week won some items. Bet Andis was happy about this.

Good thing you have no character or pride, or else you wouldn't have crawled back to a guy who doesn't respect you.

[Andis]

Good thing the guy that logs on once a week won some items. Bet Andis was happy about this.

Actually pretty happy about it, colgate helped and was a crucial role in the slaying of dragons. Hopefully this time around he will actually tag up.

dkp systems dont work imo, from the start I wanted to do loot counsel, and this time around, it will be done, and done right.

pras the resistance

long live pvp

oh and fuck both blue guilds.

** If you are trying to PVP on a PVP server, Azrael might be the guild for you **

[Slathar]

Random = fairest loot system.

Who are you? What class?

[Kergan]

I'm a level 12 iksar SK named Gentle.

[Slathar]

I'm a level 12 iksar SK named Gentle.

Oh, you're the shaman I killed 7 times on Larsen pre-PnP. Now I remember.

[Kergan]

I looked up the logs it was twice.

[Kergan]

I'm neither Thrilla or Thrilla's RL friend actually. We're pixel pals from the RZ days.

Stasis you seem to be keeping tabs on me a little close it's getting uncomfortable.

[Kergan]

I'm willing to bet I've probably killed as many if not more than all of you in my EQ career. But now with a job and a mortgage and a family I do not have the time for glorious unending combat like I did in my youth.

Now I am sheltered by the arms of the duke where I can PVP when it suites me and slay dragons for fun and profit. True, I am but a shell of what I once was and would likely get my shit pushed in by the lot of you should we engage in battle but I have come to terms with that.

Plus I'm fucking OG son. RZ '99.

[Sturgeon]

Every Red thread turns into a fgt QQ fest

[Nirgon]

New player to server with seat waiting in Nihilum.

They're both good fellas.

Praise the Duke.

[Not_Kazowi]

Was there pvp over any mobs yesterday? Why are we celebrating over items? Post pvp threads with screen shots and battle stories please

[Nirgon]

More threads on xp rate/more raid mobs than resist fixes Rexx.

Open hatred of single item loot on droppable items too.

Sounds pretty PVE FOCUSED to me.

[Twainz]

I won the random, which everyone received, then loaned it to Colgate. Shut your greasy mouth and go back to your miserable existence.

That is cool. Gratz Slathar :D

[Mac Dretti]

grats seawall

[Colgate]

Was there pvp over any mobs yesterday? Why are we celebrating over items? Post pvp threads with screen shots and battle stories please

nihilum tried porting to EJ as we were slaying severilous, was an even amount of them and us online

we killed the dragon, and found them scattered around the zone, running around like chickens with their heads cut off

we slew a few of them and then the other 20 or so plugged/ported/gated out, and we moved on to trakanon expecting both red dawn and nihilum to come contest it

nihilum went to VP to hide, so after we killed trakanon we went to plane of fear to fight red dawn

we brought 23 people and they had somewhere around 35 people, and just before the fight someone mentioned nihilum had 30 something people in feerrott on their way

we offered red dawn to team up to fight nihilum, to which they declined, and mid-fight against red dawn 33+ nihilum zoned in, so we zoned out and found out that nihilum and red dawn were holding hands

nihilum allowed red dawn to kill dracoliche while they took cazic thule

was exciting to see the prospect of a 3 guild server happening, reminded me of fun times on VZTZ, but i guess the rest of the server feels the need to ally against the smallest guild

so no, pvp didn't really happen as both other guilds avoided it

[Kergan]

so we zoned out

Sounds like everyone had pixel lust going, including you guys. Nothing to be ashamed of it is a game of pixels. Simulated repop gave everyone plenty to go after.

[Colgate]

Sounds like everyone had pixel lust going, including you guys. Nothing to be ashamed of it is a game of pixels. Simulated repop gave everyone plenty to go after.

we had the "let's not fight 23v70" lust

[Kergan]

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have stayed either (I don't think any sane person would). Really no reason for anyone to talk shit on any side, everyone got something and I would consider this primetime weekend simulated repop a success. I think it gives us a little taste of what Velious will be like with so many raid mobs...imagine a simulated repop with all the Velious shit thrown in the mix.

My point is all 3 guilds went for PVE targets instead of each other because even the PVP here is so directly effected by pixels you have to take them when you can get them.

[Andis]

nihilum tried porting to EJ as we were slaying severilous, was an even amount of them and us online

we killed the dragon, and found them scattered around the zone, running around like chickens with their heads cut off

we slew a few of them and then the other 20 or so plugged/ported/gated out, and we moved on to trakanon expecting both red dawn and nihilum to come contest it

nihilum went to VP to hide, so after we killed trakanon we went to plane of fear to fight red dawn

we brought 23 people and they had somewhere around 35 people, and just before the fight someone mentioned nihilum had 30 something people in feerrott on their way

we offered red dawn to team up to fight nihilum, to which they declined, and mid-fight against red dawn 33+ nihilum zoned in, so we zoned out and found out that nihilum and red dawn were holding hands

nihilum allowed red dawn to kill dracoliche while they took cazic thule

was exciting to see the prospect of a 3 guild server happening, reminded me of fun times on VZTZ, but i guess the rest of the server feels the need to ally against the smallest guild

so no, pvp didn't really happen as both other guilds avoided it

pras cwall

time to tag up friend

[heartbrand]

nihilum tried porting to EJ as we were slaying severilous, was an even amount of them and us online

we killed the dragon, and found them scattered around the zone, running around like chickens with their heads cut off

we slew a few of them and then the other 20 or so plugged/ported/gated out, and we moved on to trakanon expecting both red dawn and nihilum to come contest it

nihilum went to VP to hide, so after we killed trakanon we went to plane of fear to fight red dawn

we brought 23 people and they had somewhere around 35 people, and just before the fight someone mentioned nihilum had 30 something people in feerrott on their way

we offered red dawn to team up to fight nihilum, to which they declined, and mid-fight against red dawn 33+ nihilum zoned in, so we zoned out and found out that nihilum and red dawn were holding hands

nihilum allowed red dawn to kill dracoliche while they took cazic thule

was exciting to see the prospect of a 3 guild server happening, reminded me of fun times on VZTZ, but i guess the rest of the server feels the need to ally against the smallest guild

so no, pvp didn't really happen as both other guilds avoided it

Yikes lot of inaccuracies here not sure where to even begin my incoming epic heartbrand essay.

1) Azrael left RD without ever speaking to me first about their decision. When we agreed to merge into one, it was to be a strong united guild. We lost several members, if not 10+ over this to Nihilum due to the "interesting" nature of some of AZ's players. We accepted that for the "greater good" of contesting. Then AZ basically stabbed us in the back by deguilding and leaving us with a depleted force which we have had to restock.

2) I spoke with most of AZ over the course of the last week and they all basically said they disliked the decision by Lite but that they felt they owed Lite their loyalty, which is 100% fine and respectable. I suggested a brand new guild tag, co-leadership, etc., but it was all shot down. I was told AZ wanted to be their own crew. The problem with this is that it creates unnecessary confusion, rivalries amongst guilds, the option to "end" the pact at any time, the issue of if player a burns bridges in Red Dawn <cough slathar> they can show up tagged AZ and be raiding with us 5 minutes later, differing philosophies on known cheaters such as Brainz, etc. A long term alliance wasn't tenable, especially with AZ admitting to me that their goal in velious is to be an elite pvp squad. Velious requires you to gear up to progress further, if you put gear on people like salem WHO I LIKE, it won't help you kill the next dragon if they're not there.

3) Because of this we agreed to return Red Dawn to it's roots, it's charter, it's message etc. We have rebuilt around our core and new blue players. This is a PVE progression first guild, with the hope of contesting all the time when we're at that point, and in a fun respectable manner.

4) No one from AZ ever approached me yesterday about allying for CT, but how would it have been any different than allying with Nilly? Either way it is a huge zerg of 2 vs 1. Are you mad we chose them over you? Allying with AZ would turn us into a feeder guild for AZ. It means allying with the people who just backstabbed us, who my members told me they DONT want to play with, it means lite picking our members off, and eventually following lite around until he inevitably burns out for the 27th time, which brings me to the next point.

Azrael people keep talking about "scraps" and being a "feeder" guild to Nihilum, but yet they would want Red Dawn to be a feeder guild to Azrael and call the shots. With Nihilum it's a gentlemen's agreement, there's no "alliance" or anything difficult to monitor such as weekly politics and lite's period. There's no numerous questions to be asked about loot systems or calls. It's simple and easy. With Azrael it's constant confusion of what lite will decide this week. if he doesn't give it the lite mexican stamp of approval, Azrael isn't logging in. If someone gets mad about loot, everything crumbles. It's chaos.

I made the call that makes the most sense for my guild BOTH short term and long term, to build Red Dawn as Red Dawn. I've seen Lite make 17 variations of Azrael now. Red Dawn will be here a year from now. Azrael? Who knows. A GM decision they don't like? Rage quit protest. Lite deported? Azrael dead. Lite finally banned for boxing? Azrael dead. It's a bunch of on again off again players. It was an easy call.

Best of luck.

[Tradesonred]

we offered red dawn to team up to fight nihilum, to which they declined, and mid-fight against red dawn 33+ nihilum zoned in, so we zoned out and found out that nihilum and red dawn were holding hands


Like we were gonna stop nihilum trying to stop you from cockblocking us in fear lol

[Colgate]

[Sun Feb 16 19:23:23 2014] Chopper shouts, 'so'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:24 2014] Novus shouts, 'we gonna fight nihilum together?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:32 2014] Novus shouts, 'or what ?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:37 2014] Chopper shouts, 'get some'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:41 2014] Chopper shouts, '3 way battle'

my line of thought was:
group to stomp nihilum together
after the fight, recuperate and then fight eachother for CT/draco

but naw, we received word mid-fight that nilly and red dawn were planning on holding hands, then nilly zones in, so we peace out

i also asked as soon as the server repops if red dawn was working with azrael, in hopes that they would both make an effort to squash nihilum, and was told "no, azrael is kos"

but yeah 0 inaccuracies in my post

[Kergan]

I think this is the only way we have any chance at 3 decent guilds on this server at it's current point.

Guild 1, Nihilum: the established top guild, mostly PVE focused. Will do whatever it takes to get top end raid targets.
Guild 2, Red Dawn: Guild in the building phase, not ready to contest high end raid targets. Content with building the core guild with solid players and getting low end raid targets for now.
Guild 3, Azrael: Small group of high level veteran players that focus on PVP and pick off an occasional PVE target.

I think it's clear there is no way we're going to have 3 "Nihilum" guilds here. Or even two at this point. But options are good and the more playstyles we can attract and have a place for (guild 1: hardcore raiding, guild 2: casual raiding, guild 3: hardcore pvp) the better chance we have at population growth.

The fact that simulated repops WORKED last night should have us all fucking high 5ing not going after each other. Too much to ask?

[heartbrand]

ya some shout is clearly the way you negotiate things like this good diplomacy imo

[Zoolander]

we offered red dawn to team up to fight nihilum, to which they declined, and mid-fight against red dawn 33+ nihilum zoned in, so we zoned out and found out that nihilum and red dawn were holding hands

nihilum allowed red dawn to kill dracoliche while they took cazic thule

was exciting to see the prospect of a 3 guild server happening, reminded me of fun times on VZTZ, but i guess the rest of the server feels the need to ally against the smallest guild

so no, pvp didn't really happen as both other guilds avoided it

http://memeblender.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/like-a-sir-cool-story-bro.jpg

[Twainz]

[Sun Feb 16 19:23:23 2014] Chopper shouts, 'so'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:24 2014] Novus shouts, 'we gonna fight nihilum together?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:32 2014] Novus shouts, 'or what ?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:37 2014] Chopper shouts, 'get some'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:41 2014] Chopper shouts, '3 way battle'

my line of thought was:
group to stomp nihilum together
after the fight, recuperate and then fight eachother for CT/draco

but naw, we received word mid-fight that nilly and red dawn were planning on holding hands, then nilly zones in, so we peace out

i also asked as soon as the server repops if red dawn was working with azrael, in hopes that they would both make an effort to squash nihilum, and was told "no, azrael is kos"

Hey guys, I know we poached a bunch of your members and took a bunch of loot we could not of got on our own, but lets be friends so we can dick you over on loot again.

Very surprised Red Dawn didn't ally with Azrael lol

[heartbrand]

Hey guys, I know we poached a bunch of your members and took a bunch of loot we could not of got on our own, but lets be friends so we can dick you over on loot again.

Very surprised Red Dawn didn't ally with Azrael lol

hehe

[Colgate]

ya some shout is clearly the way you negotiate things like this good diplomacy imo

i'd imagine open and in front of both guilds would have caused the least confusion, and given the fact that titanuk is an officer, i didn't think twice about him speaking for red dawn

[Colgate]

i like heartbrand but i can see this easily becoming his slow transition back into nihilum

and no one would be surprised

[Kergan]

It's the way it should be for the server to grow. We get a few, you get a few and then we fight over the rest. Nobody is continually beaten to a pulp, neckbeards get their pixels and new players see some dragons. Wins all around (except for Azrael, but for some reason I think you guys prefer it that way).

[Twainz]

i like heartbrand but i can see this easily becoming his slow transition back into nihilum

and no one would be surprised

What makes you think he isn't already playing as one of the classes we really need right now?

[Andis]

colgates post 100% accurate

RD failing by the day due to poor decisions made by the topjew

RD and Nihilum hand holding is quite the site to see

pathetic, and to say I was helping them level at one point, shame on the andis

never again

[Twainz]

colgates post 100% accurate

RD failing by the day due to poor decisions made by the topjew

RD and Nihilum hand holding is quite the site to see

pathetic, and to say I was helping them level at one point, shame on the andis

never again

Shame that you would continue to go back to Lite after he has fucked you over and teased you about it multiple times. But I guess when no one else wants you, you are forced to go where they will take you.

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

I'm willing to bet I've probably killed as many if not more than all of you in my EQ career. But now with a job and a mortgage and a family I do not have the time for glorious unending combat like I did in my youth.

Now I am sheltered by the arms of the duke where I can PVP when it suites me and slay dragons for fun and profit. True, I am but a shell of what I once was and would likely get my shit pushed in by the lot of you should we engage in battle but I have come to terms with that.

Plus I'm fucking OG son. RZ '99.

lol@eq career

seek help

PS Loot council does not work and as long as you have one in place don't expect any normal people to stay in your neckbeard guild.

random or dkp

with random being the most fair.

[Andis]

Shame that you would continue to go back to Lite after he has fucked you over and teased you about it multiple times. But I guess when no one else wants you, you are forced to go where they will take you.

andis and lite re-kindled for the greater good of the box. everyone wants the andis, the greatest assassin this box has ever seen, ask checkraise, he sent me multiple tells trying to get me to join, but andis refuses to join nihilum part 2.

If hand holding with nihilum not for you? do you like to pvp on a pvp server and take dragons? get awarded loot based on participation and pvp?

Azrael might be the guild for you.

[Twainz]

andis and lite re-kindled for the greater good of the box. everyone wants the andis, the greatest assassin this box has ever seen, ask checkraise, he sent me multiple tells trying to get me to join, but andis refuses to join nihilum part 2.

So when Lite fucks you over for the 5th time, will you still go back to following him?

[Andis]

So when Lite fucks you over for the 5th time, will you still go back to following him?

this will never happen, because Azrael is not a dictatorship. We hear the voices of the people, something RD and Nihi know nothing about.

[Slathar]

Heartbrand, in order to burn a bridge there has to be a relationship to be burned. I don't care about you or what you do with your guild.

I hope this clears things up for you. Good luck joint raiding with Nihilum, I hope it brings you much success.

[heartbrand]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Andis]

RD will get slaughtered, day after day

until they finally realize what in fact they are doing, aiding this servers core problem from day 1 on this box, nihilum

long live pvp
long live simulated patch days
long live THE RESISTANCE

[Twainz]

this will never happen, because Azrael is not a dictatorship. We hear the voices of the people, something RD and Nihi know nothing about.

Yes and I know how Lite's Greed before Need policy works. lol

[Andis]

Yes and I know how Lite's Greed before Need policy works. lol

people make mistakes, after all we are human

and people have learned from their mistakes, its a process

a new day and age is coming

long live pvp
long live simulated patch days
long live THE RESISTANCE

[iiNGloriouS]

Heartbrand, in order to burn a bridge there has to be a relationship to be burned. I don't care about you or what you do with your guild.

I hope this clears things up for you. Good luck joint raiding with Nihilum, I hope it brings you much success.

Hows your hideous wife Slathar? Beat you lately? :P

[Fame]

Do you speak Klingon?

lol'd pretty hard, gonna go have a smoke

[AmukTZ]

RD will get slaughtered, day after day

until they finally realize what in fact they are doing, aiding this servers core problem from day 1 on this box, nihilum

long live pvp
long live simulated patch days
long live THE RESISTANCE

Seems like the same song that's been sung over and over.
HB has been doing the same thing he always done... taking care of RD.
I think both AZ and Nih underestimate RD.


Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out....got my popcorn.

[Slathar]

Let's be clear. Azrael wants RD to succeed. However, Azrael does not want RD to become a feeder guild to Nihilum. Would Azrael welcome RD members? Absolutely.

Three options are better than the one option prior to simulated patch days.

[Andis]

Let's be clear. Azrael wants RD to succeed. However, Azrael does not want RD to become a feeder guild to Nihilum. Would Azrael welcome RD members? Absolutely.

Three options is better than the previous one option prior to simulated patch days.

[Awwalike]

heartbrand nobody wants to be in a guild named after a shitty australian movie that has already failed twice.

truth

and nobody wants to be guilded with rellapsee

edit: Twainz tbh i'm not sure if you're really srs everyone in nihilum talks down to you

[heartbrand]

Relapsed was removed a week ago

[Not_Kazowi]

More threads on xp rate/more raid mobs than resist fixes Rexx.

Open hatred of single item loot on droppable items too.

Sounds pretty PVE FOCUSED to me.

Man I'm not against item loot. I played VZTZ like that one version and it was fun but i think this group of players wouldn't be able to handle it

[Not_Kazowi]

we had the "let's not fight 23v70" lust

Why are you complaining then? Pretty sure you were bored and wanted more pvp targets. If I were you I would be grateful, god answered your prayers

[Not_Kazowi]

colgates post 100% accurate

RD failing by the day due to poor decisions made by the topjew

RD and Nihilum hand holding is quite the site to see

pathetic, and to say I was helping them level at one point, shame on the andis

never again

Not quite sure why you talk so much shit

Knowing you from VZTZ and seeing how you act/talk on forums in game on this server is pretty comical. Just going to leave it at that. Cheers

P.S triple post because I'm traveling around the earth and have intermittent internet access. See you in Sochi. Go team USA hockey

[Andis]

Not quite sure why you talk so much shit

Knowing you from VZTZ and seeing how you act/talk on forums in game on this server is pretty comical. Just going to leave it at that. Cheers

P.S triple post because I'm traveling around the earth and have intermittent internet access. See you in Sochi. Go team USA hockey

why I talk so much shit? pretty simple to see here. Only thing comical here is how much of a non-factor you are.

cheers.

[fiegi 8.0]

pras the grand master

[Mac Dretti]

did lite ever give u that fingerbone hoop tho andi?

[Xantille]

pras the grand master

[heartbrand]

why I talk so much shit? pretty simple to see here. Only thing comical here is how much of a non-factor you are.

cheers.

Andis the Crypt Farmer calling other people non factors. The lulz.

[Mac Dretti]

he dont like pvp he just likes fingerbones and heiro cloaks

[Bardalicious]

I'll never cease getting enjoyment out of watching how much everyone flipflops alliances / friendships on this server.

Take a deep breath, nerds.

[big mouth chew]

not everyone

[Andis]

Andis the Crypt Farmer calling other people non factors. The lulz.

mad detected

[Colgate]

Why are you complaining then? Pretty sure you were bored and wanted more pvp targets. If I were you I would be grateful, god answered your prayers

red dawn and nihilum teaming up didnt create more targets on the server

it just made some unfightable super zerg against the smallest of the three guilds

was just giving a synopsis of what happened and an explanation to the people who had to seriously ask "why didnt you fight against three-to-one odds?"

[Bardalicious]

Sorry chewie, no offense intended. You are 1 of very few that hasn't sucked the proverbial pixel dick just to turn around and Lorena Bobbitt that shit just to suck a different pixel dick.

[Agatha]

colgate joined azrael? he got azrael tag? u guys award loot 2 doods who think they are 2 good for u?

shits cray.

[Not_Kazowi]

why I talk so much shit? pretty simple to see here. Only thing comical here is how much of a non-factor you are.

cheers.

Sorry buddy already did huge things, been there done that got the tshirt. Just watching replays here and it's extremely comical watching you run around like a pretend badass when your own family begged me to keep you out of heresy because of how bad you were/are

Not trying to get into a shit slinging contest. Glad you're a billy badass here

Don't mind being a non factor in eq, too busy being a factor irl

;)

[Not_Kazowi]

red dawn and nihilum teaming up didnt create more targets on the server

it just made some unfightable super zerg against the smallest of the three guilds

was just giving a synopsis of what happened and an explanation to the people who had to seriously ask "why didnt you fight against three-to-one odds?"

Just figured you liked pvp when you dropped RD tag for more targets. Now you got that, unless you're in a Zerg you're going to be fighting a Zerg. Small professional pvp eq guilds just don't work on this server unfortunately

[Mac Dretti]

im a professional

http://crimezine.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/leon-the-professional-crimezine-tonybulmer.jpg

[Kergan]

lol@eq career

seek help

PS Loot council does not work and as long as you have one in place don't expect any normal people to stay in your neckbeard guild.

random or dkp

with random being the most fair.

Loot council works pretty well for Nihilum. Rogue app showed up to VP yesterday and got BiS offhand within 30 minutes. We did have to destroy a lot of weaponry though that other "normal" people/apps would have become erect with joy after obtaining.

So much loot rotting that normal people could have it is quite sad. :(

Submit your application at http://nihilumguild.com/ to obtain fine treasures!

[Sturgeon]

I'm in a guild with 430+ members, 4 main 25m cores.

If I transitioned my WoW crew over, would smash every guild by throwing 100-200 bodies at a target.

Please do.

More population is welcomed.

[fiegi 8.0]

who did u play on RZ kergan

[Kergan]

I played Iien in The Begotten. And although Gabuk was not my character if you saw him running around in Kunark about 85% of the time it was me. :P

[freez]

im impressed

[NotKringe]

not everyone

hrmm..

[Bamz4l]

Let's be clear. Azrael wants RD to succeed. However, Azrael does not want RD to become a feeder guild to Nihilum. Would Azrael welcome RD members? Absolutely.

Three options are better than the one option prior to simulated patch days.

Red Dawn is pretty much Force 4.0 - instead of allying with Azrael to destroy Nihilum once and for all, the pixel lust gets the better of them and they take Nihilums scraps.

[lite]

Red Dawn is pretty much Force 4.0 - instead of allying with Azrael to destroy Nihilum once and for all, the pixel lust gets the better of them and they take Nihilums scraps.

I disagree. I don't think that's what happened with Force at all. Force has a lot of good people, and they didn't go Nihilum. I think we went about trying to make the alliance happen, in a wrong approach. Not everyone was enthusiastic about it, you can't force these things. I think everything will go much better this time around.

[heartbrand]

Red Dawn is pretty much Force 4.0 - instead of allying with Azrael to destroy Nihilum once and for all, the pixel lust gets the better of them and they take Nihilums scraps.

It's a video game. People don't take perma deaths when they die in this game. You can't "destroy Nihilum". You had the option to be part of Red Dawn. You took it and got your 41% haste belt, AFKed the duration of the raid, jumped off of sky, and were never seen again. Thanks for playing.

[Not_Kazowi]

It's a video game. People don't take perma deaths when they die in this game. You can't "destroy Nihilum". You had the option to be part of Red Dawn. You took it and got your 41% haste belt, AFKed the duration of the raid, jumped off of sky, and were never seen again. Thanks for playing.

It really sucks when players do this. When I made heresy, most of the az guys were in it. Then lite started playing again and they all jumped ship to return to az.

Cool people are loyal to az like that I guess but all I hear about is how they disband always. Hope it's not the case but people should be a little more respectful to heart brand and his efforts to create a friendly guild to play in.

[Twainz]

Give it a month or 2. Lite will quit and all of Azrael will be whining about the next thing to "fix" their broken guild.

[LulzSect]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1023328/fatty-eating-twinkie-o.gif

[Bamz4l]

It's a video game. People don't take perma deaths when they die in this game. You can't "destroy Nihilum". You had the option to be part of Red Dawn. You took it and got your 41% haste belt, AFKed the duration of the raid, jumped off of sky, and were never seen again. Thanks for playing.

never joined rd
never got haste belt

[Instagib]

Sorry buddy already did huge things, been there done that got the tshirt. Just watching replays here and it's extremely comical watching you run around like a pretend badass when your own family begged me to keep you out of heresy because of how bad you were/are

Not trying to get into a shit slinging contest. Glad you're a billy badass here

Don't mind being a non factor in eq, too busy being a factor irl

;)

http://youtu.be/ct9mlyAlxGg?t=1m51s

[Fame]

AZ toxic as fuck

[Smedy]

very split now inbetween pvp pals and pve pals

im stuck running both websites and have invested interest in both guilds

one is lead by the blackhole that has proven to be impossible to make gains from unless you're not in the guild/and or you've given the blackhole full access. my strategy is to be guilded with red dawn and gain levels while supporting the azrael cause. The fact that i'm NOT swinging the azrael tag gives me chance of pixel shower (read dentist history).

feelers on this ?

serial now (or maybe not) i don't think it's the right way to go for red dawn, at first it sounded good in my ears to get a few free ones but i know nizzar far to well at this point. nizzar "the duke" yellow tooth would simply not give up dragons if it wasn't for his own interest. i think the duke knows that there's going to be very hard to keep azrael from getting dragons now with the "random respawns" and his members are only loyal enough for 1 showing per week, and it better be a static showing otherwise no one will show up, no one cares, everyone has all pixels. azrael on the other hand is powered by pixel starvation and the blackhole is ruthless with his consumption of pixels, you need atleast an income of 5 dragons per week to get 1 pixel to slip out of the gravity field of the blackhole.

If red dawn and azrael set their differences aside at this point i think nizzar would get fucked on pretty much 90% of the "random spawned" stuff, but then again the "rebels" has broken apart before, so who knows really.... my feelers is just why should i be in red dawn and get fed scraps from nihilum when i could.... join nihilum. and that's what i've never done before cause i'm strictly against one guild ruling with an iron first.

very many feelers atm bro, many feelers and not sure whats going on

i feel like in 2 weeks we will know the outcome

TLDR: feelers

[Colgate]

nizzar gonna give them a taste of pixels, fatten them up, then take it all away and watch people start apping like crazy

he doesn't want red dawn on the server, he just wants all their members in his guild so that he can have a shot at killing avatar of war

would not be surprised to see heartbrand negotiate a merger within the next few months

[AmukTZ]

I think if you log in smedy and watch /ooc quietly your decisions will come to you easily.

Burn it.. burn it all.

[quido]

Red Dawn and Nihilum really cooperated on a repop to eliminate Azrael from Fear?

[big mouth chew]

just saw red dawn and nihilum holding hands in guk too so it can happen anywhere i guess

[Mac Dretti]

Red Dawn and Nihilum really cooperated on a repop to eliminate Azrael from Fear?

No, Azrael tried to steal fear from RD, so Nihilum came to take fear from AZ. But AZ ran away so we peacefully chortled, gave bcg to RD and carried on w our night.

Azrael butthurt

[Colgate]

Red Dawn and Nihilum really cooperated on a repop to eliminate Azrael from Fear?

yes

[Not_Kazowi]

People need to stop riding RD dick. It's not like we are some guild full of eq pros trying to gain fame of pvp gods. We just trying to get some pixels here and there while we heal our gaping wounds causes by nihilum and azrael.

[Smedy]

the blackhole works in mysterious ways, one could argue he might be a terrorist cell working undercover for the duke stirring up shit in the rebel community when things are looking bleak for nihilum

[s1ckness]

[Sun Feb 16 19:23:23 2014] Chopper shouts, 'so'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:24 2014] Novus shouts, 'we gonna fight nihilum together?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:32 2014] Novus shouts, 'or what ?'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:37 2014] Chopper shouts, 'get some'
[Sun Feb 16 19:23:41 2014] Chopper shouts, '3 way battle'

my line of thought was:
group to stomp nihilum together
after the fight, recuperate and then fight eachother for CT/draco

but naw, we received word mid-fight that nilly and red dawn were planning on holding hands, then nilly zones in, so we peace out

i also asked as soon as the server repops if red dawn was working with azrael, in hopes that they would both make an effort to squash nihilum, and was told "no, azrael is kos"

but yeah 0 inaccuracies in my post

from my understanding it was a 3 way battle.

but when i saw twainz coming at me.... well for one my heart stopped, he was moving with such grace i couldnt do anything, i froze, i just couldnt bring myself to it.



best of luck in azrael

[s1ckness]

Hey guys, I know we poached a bunch of your members and took a bunch of loot we could not of got on our own, but lets be friends so we can dick you over on loot again.

Very surprised Red Dawn didn't ally with Azrael lol

[Smedy]

chuck keeps doin work on the daily

http://i.imgur.com/4307jw7.gif

very proud of that weasel lately

[s1ckness]

Give it a month or 2. Lite will quit and all of Azrael will be whining about the next thing to "fix" their broken guild.

[Stasis01]

When I want an alliance to work, I make sure people like Vanco call them toxic every raid and try to get people stirred up for the lulz, act like tough guys, and then tell them you're altering the original deal and if they want the original deal back you will delete their DKP and KOS them.

Strong arm us in video game land? Titanuk you must have lost your mind.

I can see fault to both sides, but you're hardly the victims or have any reason to be mad. I mean they wanted to be in Az allied with RD, which is what the deal was.

The real situation is HB/Titanuk wanted to be badasses and have control of the opposition, but don't really have that respect yet - HB does work with raids/organization/dkp, titanuk does I don't know acts tough in TS, but it isn't enough to throw down hardcore dictatorship this is the way it is or you're out, wait isn't this an alliance? Ah fuck it.

Don't cry and be the victim, this didn't need to happen.

[Fame]

stasis confirmed taking night classes to brush up on forumquesting. pras

[s1ckness]

When I want an alliance to work, I make sure people like Vanco call them toxic every raid and try to get people stirred up for the lulz, act like tough guys, and then tell them you're altering the original deal and if they want the original deal back you will delete their DKP and KOS them.

Strong arm us in video game land? Titanuk you must have lost your mind.

I can see fault to both sides, but you're hardly the victims or have any reason to be mad. I mean they wanted to be in Az allied with RD, which is what the deal was.

The real situation is HB/Titanuk wanted to be badasses and have control of the opposition, but don't really have that respect yet - HB does work with raids/organization/dkp, titanuk does I don't know acts tough in TS, but it isn't enough to throw down hardcore dictatorship this is the way it is or you're out, wait isn't this an alliance? Ah fuck it.

Don't cry and be the victim, this didn't need to happen.

not going to really read anything you type, i miss you but i think you lost it awhile back and have no idea what happend..

best of luck to you on azrael 15.0

[s1ckness]

Yikes lot of inaccuracies here not sure where to even begin my incoming epic heartbrand essay.

1) Azrael left RD without ever speaking to me first about their decision. When we agreed to merge into one, it was to be a strong united guild. We lost several members, if not 10+ over this to Nihilum due to the "interesting" nature of some of AZ's players. We accepted that for the "greater good" of contesting. Then AZ basically stabbed us in the back by deguilding and leaving us with a depleted force which we have had to restock.

2) I spoke with most of AZ over the course of the last week and they all basically said they disliked the decision by Lite but that they felt they owed Lite their loyalty, which is 100% fine and respectable. I suggested a brand new guild tag, co-leadership, etc., but it was all shot down. I was told AZ wanted to be their own crew. The problem with this is that it creates unnecessary confusion, rivalries amongst guilds, the option to "end" the pact at any time, the issue of if player a burns bridges in Red Dawn <cough slathar> they can show up tagged AZ and be raiding with us 5 minutes later, differing philosophies on known cheaters such as Brainz, etc. A long term alliance wasn't tenable, especially with AZ admitting to me that their goal in velious is to be an elite pvp squad. Velious requires you to gear up to progress further, if you put gear on people like salem WHO I LIKE, it won't help you kill the next dragon if they're not there.

3) Because of this we agreed to return Red Dawn to it's roots, it's charter, it's message etc. We have rebuilt around our core and new blue players. This is a PVE progression first guild, with the hope of contesting all the time when we're at that point, and in a fun respectable manner.

4) No one from AZ ever approached me yesterday about allying for CT, but how would it have been any different than allying with Nilly? Either way it is a huge zerg of 2 vs 1. Are you mad we chose them over you? Allying with AZ would turn us into a feeder guild for AZ. It means allying with the people who just backstabbed us, who my members told me they DONT want to play with, it means lite picking our members off, and eventually following lite around until he inevitably burns out for the 27th time, which brings me to the next point.

Azrael people keep talking about "scraps" and being a "feeder" guild to Nihilum, but yet they would want Red Dawn to be a feeder guild to Azrael and call the shots. With Nihilum it's a gentlemen's agreement, there's no "alliance" or anything difficult to monitor such as weekly politics and lite's period. There's no numerous questions to be asked about loot systems or calls. It's simple and easy. With Azrael it's constant confusion of what lite will decide this week. if he doesn't give it the lite mexican stamp of approval, Azrael isn't logging in. If someone gets mad about loot, everything crumbles. It's chaos.

I made the call that makes the most sense for my guild BOTH short term and long term, to build Red Dawn as Red Dawn. I've seen Lite make 17 variations of Azrael now. Red Dawn will be here a year from now. Azrael? Who knows. A GM decision they don't like? Rage quit protest. Lite deported? Azrael dead. Lite finally banned for boxing? Azrael dead. It's a bunch of on again off again players. It was an easy call.

Best of luck.

[s1ckness]

was fun

[Stasis01]

not going to really read anything you say, i miss you but i think you lost it awhile back and have no idea what happend..

best of luck to you on azrael 15.0

No I feel ya, it's easier to be the tough guy victim with second hand information.

It's hard to really have your own opinions when really you only know what those guys tell you anyways.

[s1ckness]

No I feel ya, it's easier to be the tough guy victim with second hand information.

It's hard to really have your own opinions when really you only know what those guys tell you anyways.

i follow hb, its funny you talk about people that are power hungry then guild with lite who destroyed the alliance on his own even against other peoples wishes.

azrael 15.0 best of luck

[Stasis01]

It's always someone else.

[s1ckness]

It's always someone else.

or its the same person that fucked up the alliance with heresey/force/RD and any other crew that hes tried to play with,, he ends up just using them for loot and people stop logging in 2 months later

[Stasis01]

Join our tag, follow our raid schedule, without officer tag, and a bunch of people being condescending.

I can't imagine why that deal didn't work.

[Stasis01]

You would have bled members to Nihi anyway, at least this alliance with them gives you an excuse to just give up.

[Tradesonred]

lawl told lite about max and 2 clothies rolled on a fungi vs a guild sham while im in a crappy bloodstained tunic and lite basically told me so what i would have done the same thing.

Leet diplomatic and leadership skills right there

[Stasis01]

So? I passed up a SOS I won the roll on to Juggzmcgee, that won't really pay off to me anymore now will it - this box most of the time people leave, this NBG shit was cool on teams, but here people quit/join Nihi 90% of the time.

[s1ckness]

It's always someone else.

[Stasis01]

Wait, they didn't want our tag when the plan was global DKP with multi tags? This deal is off !

Wish I had the drugs u and HB are on.

[iiNGloriouS]

When I want an alliance to work, I make sure people like Vanco call them toxic every raid and try to get people stirred up for the lulz

That was the part that pissed me off about the alliance the most. And this kids an officer or has permissions on TS from what I remember. Kid definitely stirred the pot, thought about YTing that kids running mouth several times during a raid to get him to shut the fuck up. And I usually am pretty level headed with matters such as these.

[fiegi 8.0]

stasis great and honest guy, yall should take a few lessons from him

[Smedy]

Yikes lot of inaccuracies here not sure where to even begin my incoming epic heartbrand essay.

1) Azrael left RD without ever speaking to me first about their decision. When we agreed to merge into one, it was to be a strong united guild. We lost several members, if not 10+ over this to Nihilum due to the "interesting" nature of some of AZ's players. We accepted that for the "greater good" of contesting. Then AZ basically stabbed us in the back by deguilding and leaving us with a depleted force which we have had to restock.

2) I spoke with most of AZ over the course of the last week and they all basically said they disliked the decision by Lite but that they felt they owed Lite their loyalty, which is 100% fine and respectable. I suggested a brand new guild tag, co-leadership, etc., but it was all shot down. I was told AZ wanted to be their own crew. The problem with this is that it creates unnecessary confusion, rivalries amongst guilds, the option to "end" the pact at any time, the issue of if player a burns bridges in Red Dawn <cough slathar> they can show up tagged AZ and be raiding with us 5 minutes later, differing philosophies on known cheaters such as Brainz, etc. A long term alliance wasn't tenable, especially with AZ admitting to me that their goal in velious is to be an elite pvp squad. Velious requires you to gear up to progress further, if you put gear on people like salem WHO I LIKE, it won't help you kill the next dragon if they're not there.

3) Because of this we agreed to return Red Dawn to it's roots, it's charter, it's message etc. We have rebuilt around our core and new blue players. This is a PVE progression first guild, with the hope of contesting all the time when we're at that point, and in a fun respectable manner.

4) No one from AZ ever approached me yesterday about allying for CT, but how would it have been any different than allying with Nilly? Either way it is a huge zerg of 2 vs 1. Are you mad we chose them over you? Allying with AZ would turn us into a feeder guild for AZ. It means allying with the people who just backstabbed us, who my members told me they DONT want to play with, it means lite picking our members off, and eventually following lite around until he inevitably burns out for the 27th time, which brings me to the next point.

Azrael people keep talking about "scraps" and being a "feeder" guild to Nihilum, but yet they would want Red Dawn to be a feeder guild to Azrael and call the shots. With Nihilum it's a gentlemen's agreement, there's no "alliance" or anything difficult to monitor such as weekly politics and lite's period. There's no numerous questions to be asked about loot systems or calls. It's simple and easy. With Azrael it's constant confusion of what lite will decide this week. if he doesn't give it the lite mexican stamp of approval, Azrael isn't logging in. If someone gets mad about loot, everything crumbles. It's chaos.

I made the call that makes the most sense for my guild BOTH short term and long term, to build Red Dawn as Red Dawn. I've seen Lite make 17 variations of Azrael now. Red Dawn will be here a year from now. Azrael? Who knows. A GM decision they don't like? Rage quit protest. Lite deported? Azrael dead. Lite finally banned for boxing? Azrael dead. It's a bunch of on again off again players. It was an easy call.

Best of luck.

what i gather from this essay is that the blackholes gravitational pull couldn't reach far enough for air haste item, so deal was struck item was acquired (for free even tho objections from your pal smedy) and then unstruck

[s1ckness]

grats red dawn 0 help from nihilum

http://i57.tinypic.com/2r2pumb.jpg

[Stasis01]

Grats RD !

[s1ckness]

thanks feels good

[fiegi 8.0]

Grats RD !

[Sturgeon]

grats red dawn 0 help from nihilum

http://i57.tinypic.com/2r2pumb.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/zwod0.gif

[Smedy]

congrats champs

[s1ckness]

the emperor has spoken

[heartbrand]

I've played a lot of elf simulators in my time, and I thought enemies coming together to slay powerful evil beasts that threaten the world is classic?

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2230135_P1Mb2.jpg

[Sektor]

No, Azrael tried to steal fear from RD, so Nihilum came to take fear from AZ. But AZ ran away so we peacefully chortled, gave bcg to RD and carried on w our night.

Azrael butthurt


This

[Sektor]

Not to mention Azrael is going hard on trying to convince as many RD members to join them as they can. Colgate's hate towards Nilly keeps him on Azrael's side which is understandable.

[Mac Dretti]

I've played a lot of elf simulators in my time, and I thought enemies coming together to slay powerful evil beasts that threaten the world is classic?

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2230135_P1Mb2.jpg

goog img

[Mac Dretti]

blrgr bgrgrgr bgrl bgrlrglrl
.

grats RD!

[heartbrand]

Not to mention Azrael is going hard on trying to convince as many RD members to join them as they can. Colgate's hate towards Nilly keeps him on Azrael's side which is understandable.

People need to realize, the poaching of members, the LobbyQuest of Lite and crew via cell phone numbers to get people to switch sides, the decision to go it their own on repop day, all happened BEFORE nizzar ever reached out to us. You guys talk a big game about allying and taking Nihilum down, but before you zoned into Fear where were the /tell's asking us to head over to VS to fight Nihilum? Or head over to Sev? Or head over to Trak? Suddenly when you zone 20+ people into Fear to take CT, you're "ready" to work together? gud 2 no

[s1ckness]

People need to realize, the poaching of members, the LobbyQuest of Lite and crew via cell phone numbers to get people to switch sides, the decision to go it their own on repop day, all happened BEFORE nizzar ever reached out to us. You guys talk a big game about allying and taking Nihilum down, but before you zoned into Fear where were the /tell's asking us to head over to VS to fight Nihilum? Or head over to Sev? Or head over to Trak? Suddenly when you zone 20+ people into Fear to take CT, you're "ready" to work together? gud 2 no

[eskimospy]

rotation inc

[Sektor]

People need to realize, the poaching of members, the LobbyQuest of Lite and crew via cell phone numbers to get people to switch sides, the decision to go it their own on repop day, all happened BEFORE nizzar ever reached out to us. You guys talk a big game about allying and taking Nihilum down, but before you zoned into Fear where were the /tell's asking us to head over to VS to fight Nihilum? Or head over to Sev? Or head over to Trak? Suddenly when you zone 20+ people into Fear to take CT, you're "ready" to work together? gud 2 no

[Mac Dretti]

sektor <azrael> tho

[Sektor]

sektor <azrael> tho

brobb owns the warrior now. he leveled him to 60

[Mac Dretti]

brobb owns the warrior now. he leveled him to 60

LOOOOL

ok

[Sektor]

LOOOOL

ok


I support HB 100%. Brobb had a falling out with him, not gonna steal a toon from a pal. You'll know its brobb on sektorzz when he starts talking in ooc.

[Twainz]

Account trading is illegal. I thought that was your "dad"s account?

[Mac Dretti]

i believe that 100%

[big mouth chew]

yeh its 2014, i thought no more acct trades?

[heartbrand]

Sektor nice guy, I don't think I would have given my char to someone under those circumstances

[vouss]

mix feelings about this thing to alliance, pretty sure it was adressed already as a loaded question, answer was obvious days before it.

[Stasis01]

Both HB or Lite could have solved the issues, but chose not to - no need for angry people about it, it's the way it is.

[heartbrand]

Red dawn has ZERO interest in "alliances." They don't work on this server. I'm concerned only about red dawn and how to help us progress. Nihilum made a nice gesture to us showing they want to turn a new leaf with us and toss a few mobs our way, while still pvping at the same time. Praise to them for that. There's no sticky diplomacy to worry about with that arrangement, loot fights, member disagreements, all the other bullshit. If it ends I don't have to navigate member poaching and in fighting and people bat phoning each other for members because it wasn't an alliance. This doesn't mean that there may not come a time for a mob to mob basis to do something but at least with nihilum I'm talking to people who I can trust their word to not change five minutes later, and there's no further entanglements to worry about.

To me, being our own guild who pvp the other ones is the reddest of the red.

[big mouth chew]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46168534.jpg

[heartbrand]

Both HB or Lite could have solved the issues, but chose not to - no need for angry people about it, it's the way it is.

LOL???? How many times did I talk to you / deluxee / powered / Salem? Are you for real? Lite made the decision to leave the guild with ZERO communication to me or any officer. He wouldn't budge on toxic people like brainz, I floated a new guild tag, co leadership, etc., but it was all shot down. To their credit, people like powered and deluxee understood and sympathized with me as to why two tags was not a tenable solution, but told me lite would not budge. Two tags doesn't work, plain and simple. I offered other concessions and lite would not negotiate. Cut the bullshit dude.

[Smedy]

not sure why you hate brainz so much tho, he has always been a pal to me not sure what happened between you 2

[vouss]

I personally pushed for a guild split myself, people had asked for simulated repops or variance so smaller tight-nit groups of players could contest, and after a year or w/e it was granted.

Old Azrael players had two options then, eat our own words and sit in the zerg becoming what we had fought aganist for the entirety of this server, or split off and go for what we always wanted.

I hope other groups of players realize the potential a small guild of good players has here.

Turned out really well for us though, pras re-pops.

[Danien]

Hey guys look, azrael wants to play too:

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/77/2A3A2D498CBAF2B5815F5103F7793.gif

[heartbrand]

This may sound corny but I made red dawn because the cliques on this server disgusted me and isolated new players. The boxing and selfishness of people like brainz who hold down things like fungi, never attend guild functions unless it has an item he needs, basically epitomizes everything I made red dawn to not be. This includes people like Andis, and others as well.

[vouss]

I clique up because it's hard to invest time into people who are seemingly so able to flake out on you and join or maybe.. ally with Nihilum.

[Mac Dretti]

Hey guys look, azrael wants to play too:

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/77/2A3A2D498CBAF2B5815F5103F7793.gif

love this

[big mouth chew]

I clique up because it's hard to invest time into people who are seemingly so able to flake out on you and join or maybe.. ally with Nihilum.

yeh flakes are the worst

[Twainz]

I clique up because it's hard to invest time into people who are seemingly so able to flake out on you and join or maybe.. ally with Nihilum.

You mean how Lite flakes out every few months?

[vouss]

Nah thats ok, can't expect him to be on every dragon for 2 years straight, that shits ridiculous

[Sturgeon]

yeh flakes are the worst

I disagree

http://i.imgur.com/L5aOpZc.gif

[Smedy]

lets get one thing straight, azrael left red dawn, is that 100% confirmed or was there a hidden deal struck between lite and hb that was somehow broken by hb?

cause if you guys left, why would we follow, its insane

the egos, jesus

you do realize that about a year ago, this exact same thing happened, everyone left. hb was left and more or less forced to join nihilum while we all trusted in the blackhole to lead us to victory only he wasn't able to deal with with politics involving him chopper and kringes crews so shit fell apart and here we are again, why let this shit keep spinning, are you retarded?

[heartbrand]

lets get one thing straight, azrael left red dawn, is that 100% confirmed or was there a hidden deal struck between lite and hb that was somehow broken by hb?

cause if you guys left, why would we follow, its insane

the egos, jesus

Was gone for the sabbath to pray to the great sphagetti god in that bowl in the sky while relaxing with my family and friends, only to log on saturday night 2 see Azrael all left guild with zero tells or PMs.

[Bamz4l]

Colgate's hate towards Nilly keeps him on Azrael's side which is understandable.

u think that would be the case for the entire server

[HippoNipple]

Basically comes down to players like Salem or Lite, that are skilled and good guys, having problems committing to a long term strategy. Players like this will always want drama because their egos crave it. If they aren't shown the right amount of attention or feel like they are "elite" they flake and go do their own thing in their little clique. Lowering expectations and goals is the only way to ensure they will accomplish them. Instead of contesting they make the goal to get more pvp kills then deaths. Which is a pretty simple deal, you zone into KC a couple times a day and back stab people.

If Azrael members really wanted to see the fall of Nihilum and win the war they wouldn't have spun off to make this small sniping guild. They just want to get random yellow text and hurt other guilds when they can. They don't have actual goals of their own. This is fine and the desired play style of a lot of PvP minded players, but call it what it is. FoH is a great example of a long lasting PvP guild that doesn't pretend to be something that it isn't.

This sounds harsh and wasn't supposed to. Azrael is a PvP guild. PvP guilds are never meant to take over PvE guilds. They just get their fun in when they can. Calling Azrael the "resistance" is a joke. No PvP guild will ever overthrow the current number 1 guild. There is no long term plan or goals. You get some yellow text and the players respawn.

Trying to build a new PvE guild involves putting your egos aside, realizing you are not the "elite" at this time, and striving to eventually become the elite in a guild you built. A lot of Azrael members don't want that and it makes sense that they wanted to not be a part of Red Dawn. My playtime actually favors joining a guild like Azrael and I think it would be a lot of fun but at the same time I enjoy being apart of a guild that is trying to accomplish something long term and build. I think I would be happy in either guild.

[Bamz4l]

I can at least speak for myself... pretty sure no one in azrael wanted to join Red Dawn to begin with. The problem was that the only other option was Nihilum. But now we are back to Azrael vs Nihilum, and Red Dawn quickly falls in line as the current nihi feeder guild (replacing force, dentist, any other guild that refused to ally with Azrael to defeat nihilism, only to keep nihilum in #1 spot for infinity)

[chu]

Basically comes down to players like Salem or Lite, that are skilled and good guys, having problems committing to a long term strategy. Players like this will always want drama because their egos crave it. If they aren't shown the right amount of attention or feel like they are "elite" they flake and go do their own thing in their little clique. Lowering expectations and goals is the only way to ensure they will accomplish them. Instead of contesting they make the goal to get more pvp kills then deaths. Which is a pretty simple deal, you zone into KC a couple times a day and back stab people.

If Azrael members really wanted to see the fall of Nihilum and win the war they wouldn't have spun off to make this small sniping guild. They just want to get random yellow text and hurt other guilds when they can. They don't have actual goals of their own. This is fine and the desired play style of a lot of PvP minded players, but call it what it is. FoH is a great example of a long lasting PvP guild that doesn't pretend to be something that it isn't.

This sounds harsh and wasn't supposed to. Azrael is a PvP guild. PvP guilds are never meant to take over PvE guilds. They just get their fun in when they can. Calling Azrael the "resistance" is a joke. No PvP guild will ever overthrow the current number 1 guild. There is no long term plan or goals. You get some yellow text and the players respawn.

Trying to build a new PvE guild involves putting your egos aside, realizing you are not the "elite" at this time, and striving to eventually become the elite in a guild you built. A lot of Azrael members don't want that and it makes sense that they wanted to not be a part of Red Dawn. My playtime actually favors joining a guild like Azrael and I think it would be a lot of fun but at the same time I enjoy being apart of a guild that is trying to accomplish something long term and build. I think I would be happy in either guild.

tldr

[Zalaerian]

Basically comes down to players like Salem or Lite, that are skilled and good guys, having problems committing to a long term strategy. Players like this will always want drama because their egos crave it. If they aren't shown the right amount of attention or feel like they are "elite" they flake and go do their own thing in their little clique. Lowering expectations and goals is the only way to ensure they will accomplish them. Instead of contesting they make the goal to get more pvp kills then deaths. Which is a pretty simple deal, you zone into KC a couple times a day and back stab people.

If Azrael members really wanted to see the fall of Nihilum and win the war they wouldn't have spun off to make this small sniping guild. They just want to get random yellow text and hurt other guilds when they can. They don't have actual goals of their own. This is fine and the desired play style of a lot of PvP minded players, but call it what it is. FoH is a great example of a long lasting PvP guild that doesn't pretend to be something that it isn't.

This sounds harsh and wasn't supposed to. Azrael is a PvP guild. PvP guilds are never meant to take over PvE guilds. They just get their fun in when they can. Calling Azrael the "resistance" is a joke. No PvP guild will ever overthrow the current number 1 guild. There is no long term plan or goals. You get some yellow text and the players respawn.

Trying to build a new PvE guild involves putting your egos aside, realizing you are not the "elite" at this time, and striving to eventually become the elite in a guild you built. A lot of Azrael members don't want that and it makes sense that they wanted to not be a part of Red Dawn. My playtime actually favors joining a guild like Azrael and I think it would be a lot of fun but at the same time I enjoy being apart of a guild that is trying to accomplish something long term and build. I think I would be happy in either guild.

This exaxtly . I asked lite so many times I lost count of "what's the plan for velious" "what are day one goals what are 3 month goals". The is this. Azreal has no goals. Zero. /who kc and llufing in and out of it are their longest term goals. Maybe sniping yt here or there. A guild with zero velious prep is not what I'm looking for and I know a lot of RD core think the same. Gotta have a plan. Even if your plan looks like shit.

[Nirgon]

A walk in the garden of betrayal with the Duke.

[Nirgon]

Don't betray the Duke

[lite]

Trying to build a new PvE guild involves putting your egos aside, realizing you are not the "elite" at this time, and striving to eventually become the elite in a guild you built. A lot of Azrael members don't want that and it makes sense that they wanted to not be a part of Red Dawn. My playtime actually favors joining a guild like Azrael and I think it would be a lot of fun but at the same time I enjoy being apart of a guild that is trying to accomplish something long term and build. I think I would be happy in either guild.


damn I love you hippo. You are welcome anytime if you decide to go full fucking blown out red.

[Colgate]

People need to realize, the poaching of members, the LobbyQuest of Lite and crew via cell phone numbers to get people to switch sides, the decision to go it their own on repop day, all happened BEFORE nizzar ever reached out to us. You guys talk a big game about allying and taking Nihilum down, but before you zoned into Fear where were the /tell's asking us to head over to VS to fight Nihilum? Or head over to Sev? Or head over to Trak? Suddenly when you zone 20+ people into Fear to take CT, you're "ready" to work together? gud 2 no

before the mobs had even spawned i asked if you were working with azrael that day and you said "no" "azrael kos"

[Stalos_]

This exaxtly . I asked lite so many times I lost count of "what's the plan for velious" "what are day one goals what are 3 month goals". The is this. Azreal has no goals. Zero. /who kc and llufing in and out of it are their longest term goals. Maybe sniping yt here or there. A guild with zero velious prep is not what I'm looking for and I know a lot of RD core think the same. Gotta have a plan. Even if your plan looks like shit.

Everyone got a plan till they get hit with a bat. And I'm with that bat.

[Twainz]

before the mobs had even spawned i asked if you were working with azrael that day and you said "no" "azrael kos"

Hey Colgate, if I blow up your car and rape your girlfriend, can I still be the best man at your wedding?

[heartbrand]

before the mobs had even spawned i asked if you were working with azrael that day and you said "no" "azrael kos"

Shouldn't it be an officer or leader of AZ asking me that and not Colgate <Dentists>?

[Colgate]

Hey Colgate, if I blow up your car and rape your girlfriend, can I still be the best man at your wedding?

with a three time payment of one cloak of flames, absolutely

[HippoNipple]

A walk in the garden of betrayal with the Duke.

2 guilds that wanted PvE and 1 guild that wanted to kill people. It was obviously going to be a 2 v 1 any way you look at it. I personally believe if RD sided with Azrael they would have gotten 0 targets in fear, along with Nihilum.

RD and Nihilum both benefited in that fight. Azrael isn't as diplomatic and refuses to give at all. RD had to choose a side and either choice makes them look bad to someone. Choosing to side with Azrael to help get rid of Nihilum and then being slaughtered by Azrael and get nothing out of it would be demoralizing and very frustrating to RD members. Siding with Nihilum to help them while helping RD as well feels slimy but some progress is gained. Either decision sucks. Azrael or Nihilum were going to come out on top in that fight while RD hangs in the middle somewhere.

[Colgate]

Shouldn't it be an officer or leader of AZ asking me that and not Colgate <Dentists>?

yeah, but it was clear that your intent to oppose azrael happened long before we came to plane of fear to fight you guys

the "well you guys came to take our mobs so we declared war!" argument is just flat out untrue

[lite]

This exaxtly . I asked lite so many times I lost count of "what's the plan for velious" "what are day one goals what are 3 month goals". The is this. Azreal has no goals. Zero. /who kc and llufing in and out of it are their longest term goals. Maybe sniping yt here or there. A guild with zero velious prep is not what I'm looking for and I know a lot of RD core think the same. Gotta have a plan. Even if your plan looks like shit.

I explained my plan to you. Don't know what you mean by this.

[Smedy]

lites crew disbanded red dawn and now threatens to beat em to a pulp, nizzar reaches out cause hes fucking brilliant at this everquest shit and instantly offers protection cause he knows this might eventually turn into a red dawn being absorbed into nihi for velious..

why fight now azrael? why not work together to beat the common enemy, egos and pride again, i couldn't care what guild tag i'm swinging as long as it's not nihilum im fine with it

you gotta play with some newbs to get shit done here pals, cant 15 man click this box unless you can get an 2box exception for all your players, with 30 you could probably do big things.

[vouss]

Azrael's plan for Velious is.. we have played here for 2 years and don't expect to be Velious to be released any time near ... 6 month late projections, anyone willing to gamble integrity for an update on this server is welcome to!

[lite]

Shouldn't it be an officer or leader of AZ asking me that and not Colgate <Dentists>?

Since we disbanded I told you we can still team up. every time you said no. I think subconsciously you wanted to be a nilly feeder guild all along. Not sure why we are having this discussion as if you hadn't made it very clear that you picked nilly as your ally over Azrael, which is fine with us.

Our goals are being met. We are happy as fuck with all of our recent success.

Azrael's plan for velious is continue to dominate the PVP field in the age of Kunark. Continue to Obtain loot with our superior veterans in the age of Simulated patch days. Assist our new ex red dawn folk, and incorporate many more. There is no reason we won't be fine in Velious if we do these things and continue to dominate yellow text. We've already forced Nihilum to relinquish pixels to a new guild, and taken some of our own, and gotten tons of amazing new recruits who didn't want to run errands for nilly. Very easily. And this is just week one. Thank you checkraise for leveling up a fine crop of players and then throwing it all away by trying to make them adopt your pussy ass policies.

[heartbrand]

2 guilds that wanted PvE and 1 guild that wanted to kill people. It was obviously going to be a 2 v 1 any way you look at it. I personally believe if RD sided with Azrael they would have gotten 0 targets in fear, along with Nihilum.

RD and Nihilum both benefited in that fight. Azrael isn't as diplomatic and refuses to give at all. RD had to choose a side and either choice makes them look bad to someone. Choosing to side with Azrael to help get rid of Nihilum and then being slaughtered by Azrael and get nothing out of it would be demoralizing and very frustrating to RD members. Siding with Nihilum to help them while helping RD as well feels slimy but some progress is gained. Either decision sucks. Azrael or Nihilum were going to come out on top in that fight while RD hangs in the middle somewhere.

this guy gets it. siding with az to then fight it to the death means RD is prolly losing, and then becomes a feeder guild to azrael instantly. while people from RD will still join nihilum on occasion, azrael was ACTIVELY recruiting our members via texts / phone calls, etc.

[chu]

haha red dawn crying about their members being recruited while tagged?
0 sympathy here

[vouss]

you gotta play with some newbs to get shit done here pals, cant 15 man click this box unless you can get an 2box exception for all your players, with 30 you could probably do big things.

Did pretty well this last re-pop sporting 24 people against two allied zerg guilds of 35+, Ain't worried pal. Think we gave up on beating Nihilum because we don't have enough unemployed players!

[Colgate]

it's not azrael's fault that people who want to pvp with integrity are driven away from red dawn

[heartbrand]

it's not azrael's fault that people who want to pvp with integrity are driven away from red dawn

Video Game

[Colgate]

i hate everquest so much

[vouss]

games should be fun, and sitting in TS full of people you don't really like, 6am.. is not (for me)

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

red dawn and nihilum will merge

azrael are all antisocial dysfunctional shitbags

19 pages and I don't see anything new here.

What was this about again?

[lite]

it's not azrael's fault that people who want to pvp with integrity are driven away from red dawn

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/House-Sad-Head-Nod.gif

Checkraise's policies best recruiting tool ever. Can't wait till we also get some nilly who don't want to log in the night before to get their asses handed to them, so that red dawn can camp in KC. And then they have to wake up at 6 AM the next day to defend them from Azrael (who'd never wake up to 6 am )

I love watching checkraise trying to fight us with nihilum for KC control yesterday, just to overextend and get disintegrated by the reddest squad ever. the Avatar of War couldn't drop an idiot tank that fast.

[Mac Dretti]

doing crypt every day and listening to a coked up nerd talk 200 words per minute without actually saying anything substantial not fun to me

/shrug

[Sturgeon]

i hate everquest so much

[Xantille]

i hate everquest so much

[Andis]

it's not azrael's fault that people who want to pvp with integrity are driven away from red dawn

RD's purity went to shit, when Checkraise decided to incorporate Jizzar and crew

[Twainz]

RD's purity went to shit, when Checkraise decided to incorporate Jizzar and crew

Hows that druid epic coming along? O wait, that was Nips.

[Andis]

Hows that druid epic coming along? O wait, that was Nips.

grats nips? everyone will remember Nihilum aided him in the acquisition

epic confirmed tainted.

[heartbrand]

grats nips? everyone will remember Nihilum aided him in the acquisition

epic confirmed tainted.

kind of like all those warrior epics you guys paid 100k a pop for? 8)

[lite]

andis cud have been in nihilum and gotten his epic eons ago, like literally anyone else on the server. I don't get it. Is that supposed to be an insult to people that have a sense of pride?

[Twainz]

andis cud have been in nihilum and gotten his epic eons ago, like literally anyone else on the server. I don't get it. Is that supposed to be an insult to people that have a sense of pride?

Because following the scum of the server has anything to do with pride. We all know Andis is driven by pixels 98% of the time. The other 2% is finding someone naked that he can root/rain :D

[Andis]

Because following the scum of the server has anything to do with pride. We all know Andis is driven by pixels 98% of the time. The other 2% is finding someone naked that he can root/rain :D

all that YT, driven by pixels

lawl

[Twainz]

all that YT, driven by pixels

lawl

I like you Andis, you know this. I just don't see how you could follow Lite into the Pixel Abyss again. Can't wait to see him fuck you over and troll you in ooc again.

[HippoNipple]

All three guilds need to unite for one night and power level my character to 60 so I can quit the next day and retire knowing I made it to max level.

[HippoNipple]

I like you Andis, Can't wait to see him fuck you over and troll you in ooc again.

Sounds sincere.

[lite]

I like you Andis, you know this. I just don't see how you could follow Lite into the Pixel Abyss again. Can't wait to see him fuck you over and troll you in ooc again.

says the guy that left nihilum cus noone respected him, then ran back and paid 3 cof's to do it.

[Mac Dretti]

i love being covered head to toe in the finest pixels

makes me terminator raid boss status

wait 4 resist patch gon be great

[Twainz]

says the guy that left nihilum cus noone respected him, then ran back and paid 3 cof's to do it.

You people really don't have your facts straight. Never left cause I wasn't respected. Left because myself and the Duke had a disagreement. Took the opportunity to check out the other side and try to better the server. Server was perfect when I rejoined Nihilum, then you got power hungry again and fucked over your ally.

[Twainz]

i love being covered head to toe in the finest pixels

makes me terminator raid boss status

wait 4 resist patch gon be great

I know the feelers. I don't even put resist gear on because my resists are so high already. Makes me chuckle when chanters tash and try to root me while I still rock 168 MR.

[Andis]

I like you Andis, you know this. I just don't see how you could follow Lite into the Pixel Abyss again. Can't wait to see him fuck you over and troll you in ooc again.

it's pretty simple really, azrael has one common goal, to preserve the red on this server by taking down the guild that makes it so blue.

we are all in it together. and they don't call me Andis the Preserver for nothing.

[heartbrand]

take down the guild that makes is so blue? wut? by killing mobs in a mmo? dis coming from lord of the fingerbone hoop and crypt protector?

[Andis]

no by doing whatever means possible to avoid pvp, to kill those mobs

wake up retard

[Mac Dretti]

superior guild takes dragons

lesser guild gets mad and calls superior guild blue

lesser guild spends every day farming tradeables to aquire enough resources to purchase dragon loot from superior guild

#preserved

[Mac Dretti]

no by doing whatever means possible to avoid pvp, to kill those mobs

wake up retard

u spend more time farming fungi/crypt/fingerbone than Nihilum does killing dragons

whos the bluebie

[heartbrand]

superior guild takes dragons

lesser guild gets mad and calls superior guild blue

lesser guild spends every day farming tradeables to aquire enough resources to purchase dragon loot from superior guild

#preserved

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/436/141/charles-barkley-hoodrat_original.jpeg?1337704155

[Yagebasto]

u spend more time farming fungi/crypt/fingerbone than Nihilum does killing dragons

whos the bluebie

retti dropping bombs of truth

[Nirgon]

You are all pixel obsessed

[Silent]

it's pretty simple really, azrael has one common goal, to preserve the red on this server by taking down the guild that makes it so blue.

we are all in it together. and they don't call me Andis the Preserver for nothing.

This is such a load of bullshit, In the end it always comes down to pixels for you guys whether you want to play the red hero wannabes or GET DEM TRAK TEETH TO FARM VP DAWGS. The fact is you guys pretty much use guerrilla hit and run tactics to gank mostly lowbies or the occasional 60 here and there then mass plug when its a near even fight or more.

Who calls those decisions to mass plug? I mean I have seen a couple people stick it out to the end(mainly brobb, but hes always been known for tossing characters to their deaths to load a new one up). But I have multiple screenshots where its been like 10vs12 and Novus or Deluxee gets low, Next thing you know your chasing Azrael to the other zone side but no one shows up. A /tell to everyone in the fight usually results in failure to deliver this character is no longer online. I think I have one where I was able to fit 7 of these(dacuk bamzal novus deluxee stasis etc) all into one despite my tell window being small.

It was nice being chain pillaged the other day by Dango when I had nothing but self buffs on but I kept spamming gobby earring and jboots to make him think he was accomplishing something while on the block, and tash only brought me to ~150MR so GJ with the root resists buddy. From all I have seen, Basically a boxed spy is used whether its out of range(heard peep got deleted, RIP) or a toss away character like Basiah now to scout before you guys decide whether or not to come in. Sure would be nice if everyone could 2 and 3 box porters/shm/clrs/ench to have full raid buffs for every PVP encounter I went to.

But the one thing you guys did get right was finally re-rolling from those shit ass classes that couldn't pvp worth a damn to some beefy and dps characters like when you starting maining a warrior for pvp Lite, Thumperx/Pushed was made. Having a heavy melee presence is always going to be great for pvp even if you only have a few casters/healers.

tl;dr

[Nirgon]

Rerolled from druids to good classes

[Andis]

retti dropping bombs of truth

both retti and hb dmb as hell

retti wins the box by farming dragons

the rest of the red server wins the box through pvp and yt

rofl

[Twainz]

both retti and hb dmb as hell

retti wins the box by farming dragons

the rest of the red server wins the box through pvp and yt

rofl

The real winners are the ones that quit the box lol

[fiegi 8.0]

The real winners are the ones that quit the box lol

[Tradesonred]

Hey Andis talking about purity, how about you give me back that rubi breastplate you stole from me after i lended it to founding fathers as a gesture of good will during the first days I joined? When you knew im running around in shit gear and have basically nothing in the bank to my name?

Thats why i joined RD instead of Azrael when i came back after a one year hiatus, Id rather be with someone like Heartbrand whos a little less PVP inclined than azrael and all those solid dudes like Thresh, Dabber, Denz than helping Az get pixels for the inner clique when the last paragraph basically represents what az is all about. Heartbrands style of leadership is asking people what they think we should do next. Lites style is ending the discussion with "The higher ups have decided so" and making unilateral bad calls like giving the batphone list to an idiot like maximilien.

I had more help from RD in 3 days (they got me my epic, they even took the initiative to say hey dude lets get you your epic, i didnt even have to ask) than i got in 3 months from azrael, even though i put in bro time for things like getting andis alt his epic (lol)

Brainz was my farming buddy for months in OOT as we duo'd the dino, as i listened to music and shot the shit with brainz in voice. When kunark hit, he went down to the fungi camp and did not invite me once down there to replace the shitty bloodstained tunic i was wearing, not once. I quit for a year and hes still down there farming fungis. They just use people to get them pixels.

I liked to PVP with you, brainz and all, chill with you in voice but yea

[Gaffin 7.0]

You are all pixel obsessed

[Mac Dretti]

retti wins the box



basically

[Fame]

superior guild takes dragons

lesser guild gets mad and calls superior guild blue

lesser guild spends every day farming tradeables to aquire enough resources to purchase dragon loot from superior guild

#preserved

oh fuck LOL

[Tradesonred]

Hey Andis talking about purity, how about you give me back that rubi breastplate you stole from me after i lended it to founding fathers as a gesture of good will during the first days I joined? When you knew im running around in shit gear and have basically nothing in the bank to my name?

Thats why i joined RD instead of Azrael when i came back after a one year hiatus, Id rather be with someone like Heartbrand whos a little less PVP inclined than azrael and all those solid dudes like Thresh, Dabber, Denz than helping Az get pixels for the inner clique when the last paragraph basically represents what az is all about. Heartbrands style of leadership is asking people what they think we should do next. Lites style is ending the discussion with "The higher ups have decided so" and making unilateral bad calls like giving the batphone list to an idiot like maximilien.

I had more help from RD in 3 days (they got me my epic, they even took the initiative to say hey dude lets get you your epic, i didnt even have to ask) than i got in 3 months from azrael, even though i put in bro time for things like getting andis alt his epic (lol)

Brainz was my farming buddy for months in OOT as we duo'd the dino, as i listened to music and shot the shit with brainz in voice. When kunark hit, he went down to the fungi camp and did not invite me once down there to replace the shitty bloodstained tunic i was wearing, not once. I quit for a year and hes still down there farming fungis. They just use people to get them pixels.

I liked to PVP with you, brainz and all, chill with you in voice but yea

To reiterate, thats why id take pixels any day of the week from Nihilum (and its not like were being asked to not PVP them, the deal is strictly dont raid with Az, you can pvp Nihi as much as u want) than help az get pixels for the inner clique, the choice between the two is a no brainer. We raided this morning with nihi, they lookin out for #1 i know that but we get an easy 15min kill on a big target. Tactical advantage, etc...

Again its a real no brainer to get pixels for solid dudes vs helping Az fuck people over. Kinda digging your own graves with that greedy immature shit.

[Bamz4l]

Hey Andis talking about purity, how about you give me back that rubi breastplate you stole from me after i lended it to founding fathers as a gesture of good will during the first days I joined? When you knew im running around in shit gear and have basically nothing in the bank to my name?

Thats why i joined RD instead of Azrael when i came back after a one year hiatus, Id rather be with someone like Heartbrand whos a little less PVP inclined than azrael and all those solid dudes like Thresh, Dabber, Denz than helping Az get pixels for the inner clique when the last paragraph basically represents what az is all about. Heartbrands style of leadership is asking people what they think we should do next. Lites style is ending the discussion with "The higher ups have decided so" and making unilateral bad calls like giving the batphone list to an idiot like maximilien.

I had more help from RD in 3 days (they got me my epic, they even took the initiative to say hey dude lets get you your epic, i didnt even have to ask) than i got in 3 months from azrael, even though i put in bro time for things like getting andis alt his epic (lol)

Brainz was my farming buddy for months in OOT as we duo'd the dino, as i listened to music and shot the shit with brainz in voice. When kunark hit, he went down to the fungi camp and did not invite me once down there to replace the shitty bloodstained tunic i was wearing, not once. I quit for a year and hes still down there farming fungis. They just use people to get them pixels.

I liked to PVP with you, brainz and all, chill with you in voice but yea

ur posts are more pathetic by the day

[Sektor]

ur posts are more pathetic by the day

you seem mad.

[Tradesonred]

ur posts are more pathetic by the day

See what im saying? I rest my case.

[vouss]

Honestly never see Push pvp'ing, don't know how he is able to make these claims

[Twainz]

Last time I saw Beastagor he was in a sebilis group.

[vouss]

this seb group?

http://i.imgur.com/PbVGEBn.jpg

[HippoNipple]

This is such a load of bullshit, In the end it always comes down to pixels for you guys whether you want to play the red hero wannabes or GET DEM TRAK TEETH TO FARM VP DAWGS. The fact is you guys pretty much use guerrilla hit and run tactics to gank mostly lowbies or the occasional 60 here and there then mass plug when its a near even fight or more.

Who calls those decisions to mass plug? I mean I have seen a couple people stick it out to the end(mainly brobb, but hes always been known for tossing characters to their deaths to load a new one up). But I have multiple screenshots where its been like 10vs12 and Novus or Deluxee gets low, Next thing you know your chasing Azrael to the other zone side but no one shows up. A /tell to everyone in the fight usually results in failure to deliver this character is no longer online. I think I have one where I was able to fit 7 of these(dacuk bamzal novus deluxee stasis etc) all into one despite my tell window being small.

It was nice being chain pillaged the other day by Dango when I had nothing but self buffs on but I kept spamming gobby earring and jboots to make him think he was accomplishing something while on the block, and tash only brought me to ~150MR so GJ with the root resists buddy. From all I have seen, Basically a boxed spy is used whether its out of range(heard peep got deleted, RIP) or a toss away character like Basiah now to scout before you guys decide whether or not to come in. Sure would be nice if everyone could 2 and 3 box porters/shm/clrs/ench to have full raid buffs for every PVP encounter I went to.

But the one thing you guys did get right was finally re-rolling from those shit ass classes that couldn't pvp worth a damn to some beefy and dps characters like when you starting maining a warrior for pvp Lite, Thumperx/Pushed was made. Having a heavy melee presence is always going to be great for pvp even if you only have a few casters/healers.

tl;dr

You are such a tool.

[Sturgeon]

Hmmm. Which guild has the biggest pixel?

[HippoNipple]

this seb group?

http://i.imgur.com/PbVGEBn.jpg

Now we will never get leader boards. Beastagor just moved Nihilum behind Red Dawn in the PvP rankings by himself.

[Tradesonred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7_5YzkouU&feature=kp#t=2m48s

[Colgate]

Hmmm. Which guild has the biggest pixel?

dentists has the highest percentage of members with best of the best titles

[Tradesonred]

dentists has the highest percentage of members with best of the best titles

me me me

[vouss]

RD graced with Ecoli's presence, woahe! give him two weeks before he quits again.

[Tradesonred]

RD graced with Ecoli's presence, woahe! give him two weeks before he quits again.

I do do things outside of putting in 60 hours a week in everquest im sorry to say

But i do also now have a solid crew of non-toxic people to hang with so i might just last a bit longer this time around

[vouss]

^ not if i have anything to do with it

[Tradesonred]

^ not if i have anything to do with it

lol ive played Eve online, you could collectively camp my corpse for 12 hours i wouldnt give a shit, nothings gonna compare to the kind of grief ive seen and taken in that game.

If im going to quit, its out of my own initiative, because im bored most likely, not because salem killed me in EJ twice in a day lol

[s1ckness]

You people really don't have your facts straight. Never left cause I wasn't respected. Left because myself and the Duke had a disagreement. Took the opportunity to check out the other side and try to better the server. Server was perfect when I rejoined Nihilum, then you got power hungry again and fucked over your ally.

for the 3rd? 4th time?

[s1ckness]

grats nips? everyone will remember Nihilum aided him in the acquisition

epic confirmed tainted.

no aid from nihilum

was a sweet VS kill for Red Dawnions

[vouss]

no aid other then 35 Nihilum making sure Azrael didn't log a sizable force to contest red dawn at 6am