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marie
02-15-2014, 05:27 PM
Jibeknn 60 monk banned for
pvp'ing on a level 40 clr alt
Hope you guys win in velious
k9quaint
02-15-2014, 05:30 PM
Ouch.
LulzSect
02-15-2014, 05:31 PM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/580/658/90a.jpg
big mouth chew
02-15-2014, 05:46 PM
i pvp on level 40 alts all the time but im not banned
need details
marie
02-15-2014, 06:14 PM
I dont have the motivation to relevel another character its just not gonna happen...
i was pvp'ing on my 40 clr alt, some red con nilly monk in KC that was getting PL'd by 8 other nilly's, i died like 4 times to the monk trying to pvp him (YT). then the monk dinged and went oor of pvp so i started to fear/pell the mobs he was fighting then nizzar got me banned within 5 minutes. dont know what rule i broke, was told "PNP"
I thought it was pvp, apparently not.
Quineloe
02-15-2014, 06:19 PM
you thought you could fear mobs in a dungeon while you're OOR for the entire group you're trying to kill?
That is amazing.
Zoolander
02-15-2014, 06:19 PM
i will not miss your videos
big mouth chew
02-15-2014, 06:19 PM
ah its pretty cut n dry then
can't pull stuff like that when everyone is out of range because the only possible outcome is causing exp death (which is against pnp)
r.i.p. (maybe its a suspension tho, hopefully)
Not_Kazowi
02-15-2014, 06:21 PM
Yeah sucks it happen jibeknn but don't see how or why it would be a perma ban. Considering tune has pulled multiple stunts, nizzar too and they have not been perma banned yet.
LulzSect
02-15-2014, 06:23 PM
Quinloe still a mad ULTRAFAGGOT from Graffe's. Surprise not found.
marie
02-15-2014, 06:34 PM
pretty sure its a perma ban, when i try to log into some of my alt accounts it says "this account is currently suspended". then when i try to log into my monks account it says "this account is banned"
/shrug
thisuserwasbannedlol
02-15-2014, 06:43 PM
holy shit what a god dam loser
gets all mad over the internet, griefs with a pnp policy in place of people trying to exp
shocked he gets banned. Why don't you use that science degree someplace other then eve?
go start your business you god dam loser.
( but then again im sure your leveling up again already )
nevermind proceed
mostbitter
02-15-2014, 06:44 PM
i'd feel bad but you said very mean things to me while i was scouting the zones for numbers earlier this morning
heartbrand
02-15-2014, 06:57 PM
I can't imagine you would want to but you can play any of my chars you want.
heartbrand
02-15-2014, 07:00 PM
Also don't mind making a guild effort into PLing you a new sixty and gearing it. Can probably do it in a week np.
krazyGlue
02-15-2014, 07:14 PM
why did you get banned. did you violate the pnp rules? i mean there has to be a REASON. why .not just because u were pvping on a level 40 alt. i would like to read the full story pls
Mac Dretti
02-15-2014, 08:12 PM
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fiegi 8.0
02-15-2014, 08:49 PM
nobody gets perma banned on this serve except cast
give it a week then msg nillbug
heartbrand
02-15-2014, 08:53 PM
even cast got unbanned for a week
Agatha
02-15-2014, 09:00 PM
im sorry you got banned hopefully you can talk to the GM's and plead your case, getting banned is never fun.
i wish good fortune to you.
Silent
02-15-2014, 09:28 PM
I saw what happened, Maybe you didn't realize you were breaking the rules but you were. Either way I hope you aren't perma banned either maybe just a suspension. Sometimes you have to look at it from a GM's perspective they will receive a petition or see something happen and take action right away.
runlvlzero
02-15-2014, 10:11 PM
I don't feel bad about this at all, glad to see GMs finally giving a shit. You went psycho shortly after I powereleveld u out of CoM on the entire server and turned into a giant douche. Hope your vacation halps with your emotional issues and you can come back and be a nice person Jibekkn.
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runlvlzero
02-15-2014, 10:21 PM
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100912145918/southpark/images/7/7e/411_money.gif
XD <-laughing and dieing from lack of oxygen.
Fame committed internet manslaughter.
Why the fuck is it manslaughter? fucking sexist.
Kergan
02-15-2014, 11:57 PM
I doubt it is a permaban, nor should it be. But if you can't see what was wrong with what you did you'll just end up getting banned again when you come back.
Recycled Children
02-16-2014, 12:03 AM
Probably should ask the staff to roll back PNP. Maybe the rules you guys so desperately whined for won't be used against you.
karsten
02-16-2014, 12:16 AM
i'd doubt it's perma too
Tassador
02-16-2014, 12:25 AM
a week feels like perma for some ;/
marie
02-16-2014, 12:46 AM
Well, what I did was not against the rules. The closest thing you can try to say that i did that was against the rules was trying to cause exp death, but that's not what i was doing. I was pelling rooted mobs so that my enemies <Nihilum> had to spend more mana re-rooting mobs to hinder their PL speed because this is a pvp server and they are my enemy. I was also fearing mobs so they had a harder time meleeing them. a level 40 cleric fearing red cons was resisted 8 out of 9 times and when it did land it was 1-4 seconds. the zone was pretty much clear so I knew it was impossible to form a train. I try very hard to follow the rules and I have read the PNP many times
They did a good job of rerooting everything as i pelled it because they had 5 people capable of rooting that were watching me, same as the feared mobs, they were pretty much instantly rooted. They even told me while I was doing It that I was insignificant to the power they had and I wasnt causing any kind of trouble for them... because I really wasnt
they had like 6-8 level 60 veeshan's peak geared people PL'ing this guy, it was absolutely impossible for me to kill one and not a single one of them even came remotely close to dying.
GM's never sent me a tell or anything I was banned during the act of what I was doing. I had to log into another account to ask why I was banned and was never told a straight answer. the best I got from staff was "how was what you were doing pvp." When I tried to explain myself in a respectful manner, that account was banned too.
My immersion is gone after something like this
I understand what I did was not the most gent like attitude but it was not against the rules and its also important to understand he initially was in range of pvp and we were pvp'ing it up before I even began to do this. It's not like I went out of my way to try to find oor people to do this to.
Topjew & Brobb I'm sorry I wasted all that time you both invested in me I know its a real bummer you both really did a lot for me. I tried my best for the resistance but its very clear the staff doesn't want me playing here.
Never forget - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3UTy8LJI7k&list=UU8Y_uVu2spba1TS_X71wqHg&feature=c4-overview
The resistance must press on... Don't let the staff kill your spirits, buts its too late for me.....
Rules that are specific to Project 1999 Red: The PvP Play Nice Policy.
All of the rules stated above still apply to Project 1999 Red PvP, with the following exceptions:
The PvP Servers are a special case for many of the policies listed here. When one makes the decision to play on a PvP Server, they are in essence agreeing to play on a server where compromise is decided on the basis of who has the power to kill whom.
By the same token, we expect that the people on those servers will apply PvP combat in all situations where it is called for, as a resolution to the problem. As such, the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will decline to intervene in cases where a PvP alternative exists, such as at disputed spawns where the parties involved have the ability to attack each other.
Please note that this means that kill stealing is still against the rules on Project 1999 Red. If you wish to steal someones kill, it is recommended you kill the player first and then kill their mob.
Though the PvP environment does eliminate a few of the problems experienced on the normal blue server, there are a few more PvP-specific problems that are created.
Causing Experience Loss.
Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR. This includes things such as intentionally training NPCs. We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and no disciplinary action will be taken in those cases.
Much like how the Kill Stealing rule applies to those on the blue servers, this rule is designed to discourage and make note of those who do it habitually, thus betraying the spirit of PvP. As a note, the P99CSR will not in any case provide a resurrection for someone who was caused experience loss in PvP, intentionally or otherwise. This is one of the dangers of playing on a PvP server.
Bind-point/Corpse Camping and Loot and Scoot (LnS)
Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of looting and scooting is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.
Conversely, the person recovering their corpse is expected to do so and retreat to safety promptly. In other words, sitting next to your corpse and taunting someone while daring them to attack you so that you can /petition them is bad form, and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.
A player is 'Looting and Scooting' (LnSing) when he has died to an opponent and opts to call Loot and Scoot. You must call Loot and Scoot at least once in global OOC or your LnS claim will not be valid, and you can be killed. You may call Loot and Scoot in any zone after respawning from death so long as you head straight for your corpse. If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone. If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions. You may not attack or be attacked while Loot and Scooting. After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med and memorize spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone. If multiple players died in PvP and all choose to LnS, they may help each other do so (IE, res each other, drag corpses, port, etc) unless they have already opted out of LnS by fighting after death. After you have left the zone, you are considered to have finished Loot and Scooting, and may again be attacked.
If you are killed and opt to fight instead of calling Loot and Scoot, you forfeit any later opportunities to invoke LnS. If you log out you may return in 1 hour and call Loot and Scoot.
In large scale PvP (7 or more players on one side), LnS must be called by a force as a whole. Individuals may not invoke Loot and Scoot. LnS may be called by the force at any time, this option may never be forfeited. If a fight took place across multiple zones, the force is considered to have finished LnS'ing once all of their players have left the zones affected. All other LnS rules still apply.
In regular PvP, you can only ever have one zone lockout active per group of players at any time. If a fight occurred across multiple zones, the winning group picks which zone the lockout will apply to.
In large scale PvP there is no limit to the number of zones a force can be locked out of. If a fight took place across multiple zones the lockout will apply to all zones a PvP related death occurred in.
Excessive bind point camping (killing a player over and over at their bind point) is against the rules.
Excessive killing of a player or group after they have finished LnSing may be stopped by a Project 1999 CSR, but is not against the rules.
The P99CSR in attendance will decide what is reasonable in these cases. It is highly recommended that the people involved make equitable arrangements prior to involving the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff.
Mac Dretti
02-16-2014, 12:48 AM
Why the fuck is it manslaughter? fucking sexist.
CUS DICK DRIVES THIS CAR
Mac Dretti
02-16-2014, 12:52 AM
Well, what I did was not against the rules. The closest thing you can try to say that i did that was against the rules was trying to cause exp death, but that's not what i was doing. I was pelling rooted mobs so that my enemies <Nihilum> had to spend more mana re-rooting mobs to hinder their PL speed because this is a pvp server and they are my enemy. I was also fearing mobs so they had a harder time meleeing them. a level 40 cleric fearing red cons was resisted 8 out of 9 times and when it did land it was 1-4 seconds. the zone was pretty much clear so I knew it was impossible to form a train. I try very hard to follow the rules and I have read the PNP many times
They did a good job of rerooting everything as i pelled it because they had 5 people capable of rooting that were watching me, same as the feared mobs, they were pretty much instantly rooted. They even told me while I was doing It that I was insignificant to the power they had and I wasnt causing any kind of trouble for them... because I really wasnt
they had like 6-8 level 60 veeshan's peak geared people PL'ing this guy, it was absolutely impossible for me to kill one and not a single one of them even came remotely close to dying.
GM's never sent me a tell or anything I was banned during the act of what I was doing. I had to log into another account to ask why I was banned and was never told a straight answer. the best I got from staff was "how was what you were doing pvp." When I tried to explain myself in a respectful manner, that account was banned too.
My immersion is gone after something like this
I understand what I did was not the most gent like attitude but it was not against the rules and its also important to understand he initially was in range of pvp and we were pvp'ing it up before I even began to do this. It's not like I went out of my way to try to find oor people to do this to.
Topjew & Brobb I'm sorry I wasted all that time you both invested in me I know its a real bummer you both really did a lot for me. I tried my best for the resistance but its very clear the staff doesn't want me playing here.
Never forget - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3UTy8LJI7k&list=UU8Y_uVu2spba1TS_X71wqHg&feature=c4-overview
The resistance must press on... Don't let the staff kill your spirits, buts its too late for me.....
Rules that are specific to Project 1999 Red: The PvP Play Nice Policy.
All of the rules stated above still apply to Project 1999 Red PvP, with the following exceptions:
The PvP Servers are a special case for many of the policies listed here. When one makes the decision to play on a PvP Server, they are in essence agreeing to play on a server where compromise is decided on the basis of who has the power to kill whom.
By the same token, we expect that the people on those servers will apply PvP combat in all situations where it is called for, as a resolution to the problem. As such, the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will decline to intervene in cases where a PvP alternative exists, such as at disputed spawns where the parties involved have the ability to attack each other.
Please note that this means that kill stealing is still against the rules on Project 1999 Red. If you wish to steal someones kill, it is recommended you kill the player first and then kill their mob.
Though the PvP environment does eliminate a few of the problems experienced on the normal blue server, there are a few more PvP-specific problems that are created.
Causing Experience Loss.
Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR. This includes things such as intentionally training NPCs. We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and no disciplinary action will be taken in those cases.
Much like how the Kill Stealing rule applies to those on the blue servers, this rule is designed to discourage and make note of those who do it habitually, thus betraying the spirit of PvP. As a note, the P99CSR will not in any case provide a resurrection for someone who was caused experience loss in PvP, intentionally or otherwise. This is one of the dangers of playing on a PvP server.
Bind-point/Corpse Camping and Loot and Scoot (LnS)
Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of looting and scooting is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.
Conversely, the person recovering their corpse is expected to do so and retreat to safety promptly. In other words, sitting next to your corpse and taunting someone while daring them to attack you so that you can /petition them is bad form, and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.
A player is 'Looting and Scooting' (LnSing) when he has died to an opponent and opts to call Loot and Scoot. You must call Loot and Scoot at least once in global OOC or your LnS claim will not be valid, and you can be killed. You may call Loot and Scoot in any zone after respawning from death so long as you head straight for your corpse. If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone. If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions. You may not attack or be attacked while Loot and Scooting. After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med and memorize spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone. If multiple players died in PvP and all choose to LnS, they may help each other do so (IE, res each other, drag corpses, port, etc) unless they have already opted out of LnS by fighting after death. After you have left the zone, you are considered to have finished Loot and Scooting, and may again be attacked.
If you are killed and opt to fight instead of calling Loot and Scoot, you forfeit any later opportunities to invoke LnS. If you log out you may return in 1 hour and call Loot and Scoot.
In large scale PvP (7 or more players on one side), LnS must be called by a force as a whole. Individuals may not invoke Loot and Scoot. LnS may be called by the force at any time, this option may never be forfeited. If a fight took place across multiple zones, the force is considered to have finished LnS'ing once all of their players have left the zones affected. All other LnS rules still apply.
In regular PvP, you can only ever have one zone lockout active per group of players at any time. If a fight occurred across multiple zones, the winning group picks which zone the lockout will apply to.
In large scale PvP there is no limit to the number of zones a force can be locked out of. If a fight took place across multiple zones the lockout will apply to all zones a PvP related death occurred in.
Excessive bind point camping (killing a player over and over at their bind point) is against the rules.
Excessive killing of a player or group after they have finished LnSing may be stopped by a Project 1999 CSR, but is not against the rules.
The P99CSR in attendance will decide what is reasonable in these cases. It is highly recommended that the people involved make equitable arrangements prior to involving the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff.
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Agatha
02-16-2014, 12:54 AM
"how was what you were doing pvp."
Pitborn
02-16-2014, 01:00 AM
They cant cover every possible situation in writing rules for a box populated by miscreants.
At the very least, you pulled a fag move because you couldn't win 1v6 or w/e.
I'm sure deep down you knew you were being a douche.
Enjoy your break.
Derubael
02-16-2014, 01:07 AM
All of the rules stated above still apply to Project 1999 Red PvP with the following exceptions ... By the same token, we expect that the people on those servers will apply PvP combat in all situations where it is called for, as a resolution to the problem.
7. You may not harass others.
Harassment is defined as specifically targeting another player or group of players to harm or inconvenience them. As harassment can take many forms, the P99CSR involved will make a determination as to whether or not a "reasonable person" would feel harassed and act accordingly.
I would say OOR dispelling (where a PvP option is clearly unavailable) falls under harassment.
That being said, you should probably petition on the petition/exploit forum. If you get banned, the petition/exploit forum should be your first avenue of communication (not tells).
BrobbVZ
02-16-2014, 01:20 AM
Jibeknn. My thoughts on this, take your week suspension and come back. Don't do it again man. Shit happens, petition and work with the GM's, they are very reasonable. Hell if they let Tune, Nizzar, Ender, BANNED101Nihilum toon here still play, you can still play I am sure as well bro. Take a week break, do some other fun shit and come back when you're ready!
Bazia
02-16-2014, 01:27 AM
Slathar would literally sit and fear my mobs on Joseph daily while OOR. Sirken said it wasn't against the rules and never did anything. Didn't even tell him to stop doing it.
This is stupid if he wasn't at least warned first.
freez
02-16-2014, 02:43 AM
i was suspended for 1 week for doing the exact same thing
except i was doing it on green cons in najena for my jboots
wasnt that you basiah? lol
Banning him for this is pure faggotry
mostbitter
02-16-2014, 03:06 AM
i love how checkraise talks mad shit about nihilum helping banned people reroll and then offers to do the same
Not_Kazowi
02-16-2014, 03:15 AM
i love how checkraise talks mad shit about nihilum helping banned people reroll and then offers to do the same
Typically nihilum members get banned for knowingly doing worse actions from what I've seen. RMT, training, hacking, exploring, excessively griefing new players.
What jibeknn was doing was not cool, sure. Maybe he deserves a one week ban for it but a perma ban is a little much in my opinion.
I had tune and nizzar drop a goblin train on me and a new player in solb and nothing happened to them. They do that shit on the reg I'm sure and it's worse to the server because they do it to new players.
Jibeknn fearing and dispelling mobs against a group of between players isn't really hurting the server.
Bottom line, perma ban is excessive and hope he doesn't quit and add -1 to sever pop. Jibeknn is a cool guy and I enjoyed playing with him a lot.
heartbrand
02-16-2014, 03:24 AM
Tunak deleted and stripped my char. Jibeknn pulled an arguably questionable move, that had been given the green light by staff prior. Personally, I'd think a nice tell saying "hey man please stop that or I'll have to intervene," would have been sufficient but free server yada yada. I hope you just ultimately sit a week out on the bench and come back stronger bro.
Tradesonred
02-16-2014, 03:27 AM
Derubael said nobody is permabanned over PnP pvping in another thread. Check with him i guess.
Bazia
02-16-2014, 03:52 AM
i was suspended for 1 week for doing the exact same thing
except i was doing it on green cons in najena for my jboots
wasnt that you basiah? lol
Yeah it was back when your name was Seaweedpimp and I assumed you were a faggot.
Plus I really needed jboots, guess this mob fear shit is randomly enforced / not enforced.
iiNGloriouS
02-16-2014, 04:02 AM
Yeah it was back when your name was Seaweedpimp and I assumed you were a faggot.
Plus I really needed jboots, guess this mob fear shit is randomly enforced / not enforced.
lol seaweedpimp.
patchday
02-16-2014, 07:21 AM
he knows damn well what he did stop trying play dumb lol " huurrr i can fear and pell a groups mobs when im oor" uhhh thats pvp bro LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Koota
02-16-2014, 08:21 AM
he knows damn well what he did stop trying play dumb lol " huurrr i can fear and pell a groups mobs when im oor" uhhh thats pvp bro LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Sektor
02-16-2014, 08:53 AM
Also don't mind making a guild effort into PLing you a new sixty and gearing it. Can probably do it in a week np.
Mac Dretti
02-16-2014, 12:52 PM
Typically nihilum members get banned for knowingly doing worse actions from what I've seen. RMT, training, hacking, exploring, excessively griefing new players.
What jibeknn was doing was not cool, sure. Maybe he deserves a one week ban for it but a perma ban is a little much in my opinion.
I had tune and nizzar drop a goblin train on me and a new player in solb and nothing happened to them. They do that shit on the reg I'm sure and it's worse to the server because they do it to new players.
Jibeknn fearing and dispelling mobs against a group of between players isn't really hurting the server.
Bottom line, perma ban is excessive and hope he doesn't quit and add -1 to sever pop. Jibeknn is a cool guy and I enjoyed playing with him a lot.
lol
what a biased comment
thisuserwasbannedlol
02-16-2014, 02:57 PM
some time away from video games is exactly what he needs honestly.
jesus Christ go live your life instead of posting eq pvp videos and leveling a dozen chars to 50+
Kergan
02-16-2014, 03:16 PM
Tunak deleted and stripped my char. Jibeknn pulled an arguably questionable move, that had been given the green light by staff prior. Personally, I'd think a nice tell saying "hey man please stop that or I'll have to intervene," would have been sufficient but free server yada yada. I hope you just ultimately sit a week out on the bench and come back stronger bro.
Come on man, a questionable move? It was very obviously against the PNP. When PVP is not an option we default to the blue PNP shit anyways, and I'm pretty damn sure you can't dispell/fear mobs and grief a group there.
Like I said in my previous post, it isn't like he is coming here saying he realized what he did was dumb and he got caught up in the heat of the moment. Why waste your guild effort on someone that is obviously going to get re-banned due to complete lack of understanding of the server rules.
Zoolander
02-16-2014, 03:26 PM
he was clearly griefing those poor alt chars while they have been exping without harming anyone, very toxic behavior imo.
granted, all of them have dragon loot like CoF and the like but still, this WASNT OK!
Nizzar and Dekedanz trained the fuck out of me and another lowbie in sola nothing happens.
Perma ban is stupid imo.
Sektor
02-16-2014, 03:48 PM
Nizzar and Dekedanz trained the fuck out of me and another lowbie in sola nothing happens.
Perma ban is stupid imo.
its because you have sektor in your name. These guys only care about griefing players off the box.
big mouth chew
02-16-2014, 04:56 PM
pvp isnt an option when players are out of range
thats what alts are for...
Mac Dretti
02-16-2014, 06:01 PM
can i level a character for u sektor?
Sektor
02-16-2014, 06:04 PM
can i level a character for u sektor?
sure. call me pal will work something out. need DAT board access again.
BigHurb
02-16-2014, 06:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OldMv1F.jpg
Agatha
02-16-2014, 07:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OldMv1F.jpg
lul
patchday
02-17-2014, 09:20 AM
LOL
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