Trading problem w/ Kuldor from IB

[tefog]

Just wanted to let you all be aware, spoke to kuldor and agreed to buy mithril vambraces for 3.2k logged in my alt, kept messaging him for 30 minutes with no response than he logged. If something happened kuldor, let me know Im still interested in purchasing the item, other wise I'll definately warn other of this bad trading practices.

[Anaiyah]

Not buying your gear is not bad trading practice lol.

[StinkyGreenBud]

joking right?

[Walabaego]

Not buying your gear is not bad trading practice lol.

[tefog]

he was selling his gear, We agreed upon a price i ported my guy out of oot to pay for the item all in all lost about 2 hours, messaging him and not recieving a reply, then had to get back on the boat to oot

[yaaaflow]

Sounds like a real jerk to me! Good job on getting the word out on this guy!

[Desert]

he was selling his gear, We agreed upon a price i ported my guy out of oot to pay for the item all in all lost about 2 hours, messaging him and not recieving a reply, then had to get back on the boat to oot

Maybe he got tired of waiting for you? I think you cry too much imho

[Droxx]

Kuldor is definitely a jerk. Rivals Doug, imo.

[Lazortag]

Maybe he got tired of waiting for you? I think you cry too much imho

Why are people on these forums so disingenuous sometimes? I don't know if tefog is telling the whole truth, but if he is, then from the information he's given it's pretty clear the guy is a douche. According to tefog he never responded to his tells even though he agreed to buy something from someone and needed to meet him. This means that tefog went through a lot of trouble for nothing, while Kuldor didn't even have the respect to answer the guy's tells or tell him he was going to be logging off.

Again, if Tefog isn't telling the whole truth, then we can't be sure who's right - but from what he's told you how could you disagree with him without jumping to baseless conclusions like "he just left because he got tired of waiting for you".

[Desert]

All I can say is that sometimes shit happens. Don't judge the IB guy too harshly, maybe he HAD to go.

If he was standing there for 30 mins not responding to tells, and afk, it's obvious that he had to go. just get over it and try to buy a new one tomorrow, this guy had shit going down and you were just too slow getting there before it happened.

[Arkis]

Once in a while...RL stuff could happen... he might of had to emergency afk. If tefog hadn't of posted this, he probably wouldn't be flamed and bashed. I have this happen to me more than once and you don't see me raging on the forums

Just saying, suddenly a person is a horrible trader because of one incident? Multiple incidents sure.

Besides I know him and he's not responding to me so *shrug*

Also, inb4RnF

[Desert]

if I had a booty call I would run too, pending sale or not. haters gonna hate :rolleyes:

[Cyrano]

Why are people on these forums so disingenuous sometimes? I don't know if tefog is telling the whole truth, but if he is, then from the information he's given it's pretty clear the guy is a douche. According to tefog he never responded to his tells even though he agreed to buy something from someone and needed to meet him. This means that tefog went through a lot of trouble for nothing, while Kuldor didn't even have the respect to answer the guy's tells or tell him he was going to be logging off.

Again, if Tefog isn't telling the whole truth, then we can't be sure who's right - but from what he's told you how could you disagree with him without jumping to baseless conclusions like "he just left because he got tired of waiting for you".
QFT

[Mmohunter]

So, I just got back (12AM EST), and someone pointed out to me that someone had something to say about me here on the forums.

I did in fact have something come up and had to ninja afk. You, on the other hand did also take quite bit of time to switch over and send me a tell. I do understand if you have to switch accounts it takes some time, therefore I won't hold this against you.

Now, did this issue really deserve it's own thread on the server chat section? I don't think so. Did you have to include a guild tag in the title? I don't think so.

[Ektar]

lol @ bold

[Desert]

Like I said, shit happens, can we all move on? Drama whores.

[Lazortag]

lol @ bold

[yaaaflow]

Yeah right pal, you wasted two full hours of this guys time and he deserves restitution damnit!

[tefog]

Btw he didn't have towait for that long just account change, and then I gated from oot to Ec ( bound there ) Kuldor, its could have been as simple as letting one of you many guildies know, or something and warn me. My point is I am in the army I work from 5 am to 5-6pm I dont have but 2-3 hours a night on week days to play, and you pretty much wasted my whole day with this. Want to point out where I am coming from, yea I was pissed, and yea I am still little butt hurt.

[Cyrano]

Clearly Kuldor thinks he can just treat people like complete dirt since he joined IB.

[Erasong]

Wtf Kuldor. im gone a month and you turn into a douche?! GKICK NAO

[Phelp]

Btw he didn't have towait for that long just account change, and then I gated from oot to Ec ( bound there ) Kuldor, its could have been as simple as letting one of you many guildies know, or something and warn me. My point is I am in the army I work from 5 am to 5-6pm I dont have but 2-3 hours a night on week days to play, and you pretty much wasted my whole day with this. Want to point out where I am coming from, yea I was pissed, and yea I am still little butt hurt.

You have more time then that you just choose to do other things.

Sounds like you are crying over something stupid. If he had taken your plat then yea make a thread. Shit happens deal with it.

[Overcast]

Yeah right pal, you wasted two full hours of this guys time and he deserves restitution damnit!

Not taking sides here...

But - why would you waste 2 hours?

If I was trying to sell something and someone didn't reply, I'd go on with whatever and not worry about it too much. Start auctioning the item again, etc.

That whole scenario isn't something I wouldn't expect. I'd figure something came up or the guy backed out and just didn't want to reply.

Nothing lost, it's not like he got the item and wouldn't pay up... Just sell it to someone else.

[Cyrano]

Overcast, you're totally missing the point. The problem is that Kuldor was cool before he joined IB and now that turdburgler thinks he just treat people like dirt! If you drove to buy a TV at BestBuy and then the sales guy FORCED you to wait for 2 hours only to have you realize he left the store for the day, wouldn't you be pissed? At the very least the BestBuy employee would have one of his cohorts let you know he left which IB would never have the decency to do.

[Droxx]

I heard that Kuldor and all of IB hates babies.

[HippoNipple]

All the people against the OP are annoying. The IB dude said he would do the trade for a set price, the OP goes to meet him, and teh guy refuses to talk to him. I'm guessing he just got a better offer and ignored the OP after stating that it was a deal. In any case the only way this isn't a douche move is if the IB guy actually had a rl situation and never saw the /t, but then again why wouldn't he have gotten in contact with him by now. Also him having anything to do in real life is a long shot since he is in IB. Not even trying to make a low blow here at IB but if your in the guild you probably have a lot of free time, if I had more free time I would probably spend it on EQ as well.

To Phelp no he doesn't have time to play, he just said he is in the army, don't be a smart ass. Obviously he isn't going to skip out on his duty and be dishonorably discharged for playing EQ. He said he works from 5 am to 6pm, the guy probably has to wake up at 4 am and eat/sleep sometime.

[Phelp]

To Phelp no he doesn't have time to play, he just said he is in the army, don't be a smart ass. Obviously he isn't going to skip out on his duty and be dishonorably discharged for playing EQ. He said he works from 5 am to 6pm, the guy probably has to wake up at 4 am and eat/sleep sometime.

Unless he is forward deployed he has time to play.

I played full time while I was Active Duty.
0500 Wake up
0600 PT Formation
0630-0730 PT
0730-0900 Shower/Eat/Clean/DoWhatIsNeeded
0900 Formation(someplaces skip this and go straight into work) 1130 - 1230/1300 Lunch
1630-1700 Close of Day Formation(some skip this as well)


I dont know about you but this looks like a normal day for just about anyone. For a normal 8-9 hour day job you have 4 hours you really are not working but cannt do just about anything.



So this leaves from 1800-0000 free to do as he want.

[guineapig]

If something comes up and you have made plans with somebody you do this:

type "r" hit enter
"gotta go"

Not that difficult...

[Aaryn]

Or /afk emergency sorry man.


Seller sounds like a douche

Aaryn

[yaaaflow]

Frankly I say just save time and ban Kuldor right now. He wasted some dude's time, man, this kind of aggression will not stand.

[Cyrano]

If something comes up and you have made plans with somebody you do this:

type "r" hit enter
"gotta go"

Not that difficult...

Unless that person takes a long time to switch accounts.

[Erasong]

alright. serious face. Kuldor prob did waste this guys time. Its not the first or last time this has happened and not exclusive to the OP and Kuldor. really not the serious. Its being WAY blown over the top and I think soley becuase at some point IB as his guildtag was mentioned. People need to ease back sometimes.

[Overcast]

Overcast, you're totally missing the point. The problem is that Kuldor was cool before he joined IB and now that turdburgler thinks he just treat people like dirt! If you drove to buy a TV at BestBuy and then the sales guy FORCED you to wait for 2 hours only to have you realize he left the store for the day, wouldn't you be pissed? At the very least the BestBuy employee would have one of his cohorts let you know he left which IB would never have the decency to do.

No, I would have went to Sears or Wal-Mart, lol ;) After about 15/20 minutes of waiting, max.

[internalprime8]

Frankly I say just save time and ban Kuldor right now. He wasted some dude's time, man, this kind of aggression will not stand.

We are talking about unchecked aggression here, dude. The guy peed on your rug.

[Cyrano]

And it will only get worse. Has anyone thrown in the obligatory Hitler/Nazi reference yet? I think you clearly see where this is going if Kuldor is allowed to just tramp on people's immersion.

[mmiles8]

Why are people on these forums so disingenuous sometimes?

Why are you so disingenuous, "Uberom"?

Bards virtually never die in a solo situation, shows that you have to be really disingenuous to complain about how bad bards are.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disingenuous

[Barkingturtle]

Oh come on, man, he was having fun with his word.

[Sirbanmelotz]

How about this... Who gives a shit?

[Erasong]

How about this... Who gives a shit?

[Lazortag]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disingenuous

So you linked to something that showed that the word meant what I thought it meant, and what I was trying to say in the posts where I used it...?

Uh, thanks? For... showing me that I know how to speak english?

Also, that I only used the word three times in 238+ posts (remember many of my posts are in R&F) isn't really that remarkable.

[Ektar]

This problem has resonated throughout the entirety of my being. Kuldor has been dealt with accordingly to the fullest extent of the IB behavioral code. But we need to learn from this situation. I think we should instate a server-wide rotation on IB douchebaggery. Instead of allowing chaos to ensue, we will set a particular person to deal out the IB douchebaggery for that day. Therefore anyone choosing to deal with this person will only have himself to blame for the douchebaggery done and we can skip this mess.

[Sinlea]

Actually Kuldor's dog died that day. You should be ashamed of yourself. Poor guy was in tears on vent for hours!

[Jaxon]

Bah. I'm not at all impressed. My cat died a week after WOW came out. I boxed her up, sent a quick message to the guild saying "R.I.P. my cat" and I was back in the game in less than 10 minutes.

[Lazortag]

alright. serious face. Kuldor prob did waste this guys time. Its not the first or last time this has happened and not exclusive to the OP and Kuldor. really not the serious. Its being WAY blown over the top and I think soley becuase at some point IB as his guildtag was mentioned. People need to ease back sometimes.

despite what I said earlier, I agree with this

[RKromwell]

Bah. I'm not at all impressed. My cat died a week after WOW came out. I boxed her up, sent a quick message to the guild saying "R.I.P. my cat" and I was back in the game in less than 10 minutes.



Cats are souless creatures of evil...a dog is fucking family.

[JackOfSpades]

Cats are souless creatures of evil...a dog is fucking family.

Give this man a beer.

[thxer]

Cats are souless creatures of evil...a dog is fucking family.

Fuck you.

[thxer]

Give this man a beer.

And you!

[Ektar]

me likey cats but that made me lol.

[RKromwell]

I have four cats. I know the nature of the beast. They will pretend to love you while plotting your demise.

[Bubbles]

me likey cats but that made me lol.

[Sinlea]

I totally hijacked this. Win.

[Cyrano]

Woah, woah, woah. What are you guys doing? Stop derailing we need to focus on the issue at hand. Kuldor is a jerk who is ruining the server and we need to do something about it.

Maybe we can draft up some rules and Rogean can implement them with bans i.e:

1) If party A and party B agree to sell an item, party A must not:
a) log
b) go AFK
b1) unless they have sent a tell or have an AFK tag up alerting party B
c) sell to someone else (as this is disingenuous)
b) If Party A is a member of the guild "Inglourious Bastards" and breaks rule 1 including any of subsections a-c (b1 not-withstanding under the AFK Awareness Act of 2010), Party B MUST alert other P99 players via the forums or, given that a GM will reinstate global OOC in this situation, the obligatory global OOC warning.
c) Should rule B not be completed in either tier by Party B, Party A (assuming he/she is a member of IB) must bind in Qeynos, be ported to Steamfont and die at the hands of any upset, disgruntled, angry, or disingenuous (not sure if this is the right use of the word, anyone have a dictionary definition on hand?) non-IB players in order to maintain the balance between Good (non-IB) and Less-Good (IB AFKers).

I think it's a good start, who wants to help work out the kinks before I submit this to Nilbog?

[aVoided]

Bah. I'm not at all impressed. My cat died a week after WOW came out. I boxed her up, sent a quick message to the guild saying "R.I.P. my cat" and I was back in the game in less than 10 minutes.

There is no way to explain it, but this for me is the most epic respondse EVER that I have read !

R.I.P my cat

[eqdruid76]

All animals are of a reprobate mind, hence they suffer eternal damnation in The Lake of Fire.

[Overcast]

There is no way to explain it, but this for me is the most epic respondse EVER that I have read !

R.I.P my cat

I have a cat - should I hotkey that?

[Cyrano]

Bump

[Versus]

la de da nothing to see here....

[Hasbinbad]

Cyrano, you're such a jerk.

[Messianic]

Cyrano, you're such a jerk.

LOL

Why would he bump this?

[audacity]

IB once raped my father and made my mother watch re-runs of Two and a half men.

[Hasbinbad]

LOL

Why would he bump this?
Because he is a jerk.

[Chippy]

Olympia has won both an academy award and a golden globe. He told me he's going for an oscar next.

[Hasbinbad]

Olympia has won both an academy award and a golden globe. He told me he's going for an oscar next.
BALDERDASH

[Cyrano]

I just want people to know that Kuldor can not be trusted! Don't trade with this guy he will leave you hanging and RUIN your night!

[Humerox]

pfffft

[Extunarian]

haha I forgot all about eqdruid76

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

oops.

[Cyrano]

Bump

<insert Hasbinbad recycle photo here in future edit>

[Ektar]

it's good to keep people wary. Shows a responsibility characteristic as well.

[Arkanjil]

Yeah that Perun guy is a real jerk!

[Cyrano]

Yeah that Perun guy is a real jerk!

I just did a /who Perun

AFK[ANONYMOUS] Perun <Transatlantic Rampage>


Even when things change, they stay the same.

[midgetzebra]

is this place really so dead now that you resident trolls are having to mass bump old posts? thats a bad omen