Vendor with Illusion items.

[Issues]

The biggest argument against this would be that it's not classic. How Classic is the server really right now? With it being stuck in Kunark for so long. Furthermore the server will eventually be in Velious for as long or longer so the point remains.

Players need a money sink. Something on the side to strive for. These items are merely "Fluff" and have no impact on actual game play (such as asking for a pre-nerf fungi to be made vendor available)

The Illusion items would be no drop. They could be any sort of Illusion ranging from Dark Elf, Troll, Froglok etc...

Make them at least 2 million plat each. This number can be tweaked of course. Just throwing one out there for the sake of an example.

This idea has probably already been thought of but heres a poll to see if the player base would support or be against such a thing.

[Tune]

add in expensive plat price to re-spec starting stats

[Doors]

Never gonna happen everyone who got DE masks back when server launched would cry.

[Nocte]

I get what you're saying about it not affecting gameplay, and I agree with you there.

On the other hand, I think if I ran a classic EQ server, and was asked about it, I wouldn't want to describe it as follows:

"We intended the expansions to be released on their natural timelines and we've progressed as best we could, given the time and resources we could dedicate. It's as accurate to the classic experience up to [classic/kunark/velious] as we can make it, aside from aspects of the client we can't change and the elements that we are still gathering data on. Oh, and we added vendors that sell illusion masks because the economy got all shitty."

[Azelle]

If you start adding changes like that, what else will come after? So a big no for me.

[Fuzzi]

I don't see this as being an option. I understand that people at the higher tiers are hoarding money, but that isn't something that is an issue other than guilds socking spawns.

In addition, there are illusions that give benefits, such as illusion troll/iksar giving regen. It would also take some of the allure out of being a rogue/bard since these classes have unique items that have the clicky illusion effects.

[Asap]

2 million sounds high, and would only appeal to 1% of the server. You could have basic races start at around 300k, and have other illusions (elementals, werewolf, ect) cost 1 million +

[Sirken]

Players need a money sink.

if you have too much money, feel free to just give it to me :D

[Sebekkha]

This will inevitably force premium items in EC like Fungi for instance to rise so much that it would also be only attainable by a small minority of the server. If you wanna rid your plat so badly , stalk some new players and help them on their way perhaps

[TWDL_Prexus]

If you want these illusions I suggest you either make an enchanter, or try out one of the other EQEQMU servers. This will never happen here.

[Telin]

You could do pricy vanity pets and fireworks as well. Then it would be like wow

[Issues]

Never gonna happen everyone who got DE masks back when server launched would cry.

>>> On the Flip side perhaps those same people would enjoy having more Illusion options.

If you start adding changes like that, what else will come after? So a big no for me.

>>> It's a change that adds flavor to the server without changing game play. If more of those came I wouldn't mind. The server ends at Velious. For player retention you need more objectives.

I don't see this as being an option. I understand that people at the higher tiers are hoarding money, but that isn't something that is an issue other than guilds socking spawns.

In addition, there are illusions that give benefits, such as illusion troll/iksar giving regen. It would also take some of the allure out of being a rogue/bard since these classes have unique items that have the clicky illusion effects.

>>> I would hope people choose bard/rogue because of the class not because they get Illusions. Plus there would be Illusions available those two classes and enchanter can not obtain normally

2 million sounds high, and would only appeal to 1% of the server. You could have basic races start at around 300k, and have other illusions (elementals, werewolf, ect) cost 1 million +

>>> The idea behind a high price is to make this option hard to obtain and a true money sink. If a guy is going to drop 2mil on an item, no refund, no trade, no account trading. It's meaningful. Also your 1% figure is off I'm sure. The amount of money players have with the server age is quite a bit.

[Vermicelli]

Ain't nobody gonna take Mama's honey. Not without a fight! (Either the froglok assassin, skeletal procurator, or General V`ghera)

[Tune]

plat sync to buy some city factions

I need my KaladimCitizens back on my side

[fadetree]

NO.

[Spitty]

Amazing how many unintelligent people here can't make an "argument" without using horrible fallacies left and right.

NOT FIVE FUCKING SENTENCES LATER...

"But that's so not classic", you say?! What would be so bad about newbies not having to stay diseased for 45 minutes, or die of poison when they're sitting right next to friendly NPCs. With the poison, they'd still have to make it to the curer, I don't know, would be nice to see. But will never happen.

Your poison-cure argument is a straw man fallacy. Good job at being an idiot and a hypocrite, while harboring some serious bank envy.

I voted no, for obvious reasons - mainly because you didn't think this through past "Illusions are fun" and "we need money sinks". Enchanters already have the ability to cast an illusion on demand - what are you going to do for the rich enchanters?

No.

[Issues]

I voted no, for obvious reasons - mainly because you didn't think this through. Enchanters already have the ability to cast an illusion on demand - what are you going to do about the rich enchanters? Are you going to offer something that they can buy because you just can't stand the idea of someone being wealthier than you?



Your tone is quite demonstrative. Perhaps enchanter's would be the least thrilled class with this optional money sink. Maybe Illusions would be available they cannot cast. As to a person(s) being wealthier than I, no I couldn't care less. Since you assumed that question, you should have also assumed that since I made this poll, that I have the money for such a thing. As in platinum envy is more than likely not my motivation for such a suggestion.

[Spitty]

I edited my statement after I figured out the inflammatory "EVERYONE'S AN IDIOT" guy wasn't the source of this thread.

You still get a no, but props on holding my hands to the fire for my demonstrative tone.

[Bill Tetley]

learn to google trivia questions faster...

[M.J.]

For a lot of high end players that have put in the time to acquire cash, a vendor that sells illusion items would remove plat from the game that already ISN'T BEING SPENT. There is very minimal inflation on non BiS gear created by players that are coming up, not by the people that would spend 2 million plat for an illusion mask. In fact some items have decreased in value like dwarf and high elf cultural. Every class has a way to farm straight platinum solo at 60, and according to these boards “playing what you want however you want!” will take you there.

For some people the EC economy is a part of the game, the inflation is just a natural reaction to the total amount of CIRCULATING cash within the game. You really think TMO couldn't take their guild bank and offer to buy every fungi for 50k-100k above market value and artificially increase the price overnight and then control the market? The economy here isn't actively being sabotaged similar to AH games like FFXI or WoW.

How much plat is sitting in a bank waiting to pay a legion of casuals to do all the farming that no one wants to do when Velious drops?

[Nubben]

Purchasing in game illusions is already available at https://www.everquest.com/shop. And it can stay there.

[Silent]

If items like this were introduced, please keep it blue only. As it stands on red, Illusion forms such as AoN/guises and others can give huge advantage to fatties in small areas. And skeleton illusion ALONE takes away the nameplate on a person giving even huger an advantage. Though I doubt this will be ever added, I always knew most people on blue only cared about appearances =/

[Issues]

This will inevitably force premium items in EC like Fungi for instance to rise so much that it would also be only attainable by a small minority of the server. If you wanna rid your plat so badly , stalk some new players and help them on their way perhaps

You're a monk with a guise, your opinion is obvious. How long did that take to get? 5-10mins, lucky right place, right time GM event. How is that more legit then 2mil which takes exponential amounts of time.

If you want these illusions I suggest you either make an enchanter, or try out one of the other EQEQMU servers. This will never happen here.

Have no interest in playing an enchanter or going to a different Emu. Thanks for your suggestion though.

learn to google trivia questions faster...

I know right...

Purchasing in game illusions is already available at https://www.everquest.com/shop. And it can stay there.

Different game and that is real money there pal. Stay on topic. Argument is invalid.

If items like this were introduced, please keep it blue only. As it stands on red, Illusion forms such as AoN/guises and others can give huge advantage to fatties in small areas. And skeleton illusion ALONE takes away the nameplate on a person giving even huger an advantage. Though I doubt this will be ever added, I always knew most people on blue only cared about appearances =/

AoNs can be bought on blue for around 450k to put a 2mil vendor into some perspective. Also who wouldn't want to be a Froglok??

Lot of No votes for something that adds to the server and takes nothing away. Doesn't hurt anyone. Odd.

[Spitty]

You're a monk with a guise, your opinion is obvious. How long did that take to get? 5-10mins, lucky right place, right time GM event. How is that more legit then 2mil which takes exponential amounts of time.

Chiding someone who offered their opinion, though they own a guise, is petty at best. It also clearly demonstrates that you're hurt that you don't belong to the illusion club and harbor some serious envy towards those that lucked out and picked up a guise via GM event.


Lot of No votes for something that adds to the server and takes nothing away. Doesn't hurt anyone. Odd.

You need to step back and realize that, no matter how many times you make this statement, it's not true.

The no votes are there for a reason, and it's not because this suggestion "adds to the server" - it won't. They aren't there because this "takes nothing away", because it does. And they aren't there because it "doesn't hurt anyone" - that's subjective, but you're essentially asking the development team to forget all the other non-classic changes that have been suggested over the years in favor of your personal campaign to change form. That could hurt some feelings.

Here's what this will be - an ego boost for a handful of people, and yet another separation between the average P99 player and the ultra-rich. Your ego is clearly a factor here, and I don't think you should be rewarded for your attitude towards people who already have illusions.

[Azelle]

Looks like people here can't voice an opinion on A POLL without being insulted by strangers who assume all kind of bad things, go figure, I though a smaller community would be nicer on the forums, I was wrong. (off to play)

[Coridan]

Make them temporary items and only have it available to buy during october. Halloween masks.

[Mac Dretti]

add in expensive plat price to re-spec starting stats

http://i.imgur.com/uTjlfdb.jpg?1

[Trelaboon]

Meh, rather than giving out items for 2 million plat, you guy just buy 10 dose illusion potions for like 10k a pop or something. They wouldn't last forever and would still be a money sink. I don't really care either way, but a permanent, buyable item doesn't make any sense

[Issues]

Chiding someone who offered their opinion, though they own a guise, is petty at best. It also clearly demonstrates that you're hurt that you don't belong to the illusion club and harbor some serious envy towards those that lucked out and picked up a guise via GM event.




You need to step back and realize that, no matter how many times you make this statement, it's not true.

The no votes are there for a reason, and it's not because this suggestion "adds to the server" - it won't. They aren't there because this "takes nothing away", because it does. And they aren't there because it "doesn't hurt anyone" - that's subjective, but you're essentially asking the development team to forget all the other non-classic changes that have been suggested over the years in favor of your personal campaign to change form. That could hurt some feelings.

Here's what this will be - an ego boost for a handful of people, and yet another separation between the average P99 player and the ultra-rich. Your ego is clearly a factor here, and I don't think you should be rewarded for your attitude towards people who already have illusions.

Firstly that wasn't a chide. It was an example of how easily previous Illusions have been obtained compared to spending a hard earned 2mil on one. I'm happy for the guy but lets not be naive, how many no votes are from people who want to feel "special" because they have an Illusion already.

I doubt the devs would do this even if the yes votes were 100%. Not sure about an ego boost for an Illusion either...its just Fluff. Perhaps some get bigger Egos cause they have more cash, or some special item but it's just a game man, its not all that big of a deal. It would be simply another fun thing on p99.

I look at it like this, the only valid argument against it is the fact it wasn't "classic" to begin with. Years down the road when Velious is in the same state kunark is in now. They are going to have to add things or tweak things to keep this server active and break that "keep it 100% classic in all aspects" model. Why? Because people can only do the same thing for the same reason so many times.

This idea is a very basic one on things the Devs could do if they wanted to. I'm a huge fan of p99 and I'd like to see it thrive instead of become stagnant

[baalzy]

Voted yes despite knowing the reality is no. Which I'm okay with.

[Llodd]

Meh, rather than giving out items for 2 million plat, you guy just buy 10 dose illusion potions for like 10k a pop or something. They wouldn't last forever and would still be a money sink. I don't really care either way, but a permanent, buyable item doesn't make any sense

Beat me to it. Though I'd say 50 - 100k for a limited illusion potion would work.

[planeofdreams]

Voted no, but I admit the halloween masks idea is endearing.

[yaaaflow]

Firstly that wasn't a chide. It was an example of how easily previous Illusions have been obtained compared to spending a hard earned 2mil on one. I'm happy for the guy but lets not be naive, how many no votes are from people who want to feel "special" because they have an Illusion already.

I doubt the devs would do this even if the yes votes were 100%. Not sure about an ego boost for an Illusion either...its just Fluff. Perhaps some get bigger Egos cause they have more cash, or some special item but it's just a game man, its not all that big of a deal. It would be simply another fun thing on p99.

I look at it like this, the only valid argument against it is the fact it wasn't "classic" to begin with. Years down the road when Velious is in the same state kunark is in now. They are going to have to add things or tweak things to keep this server active and break that "keep it 100% classic in all aspects" model. Why? Because people can only do the same thing for the same reason so many times.

This idea is a very basic one on things the Devs could do if they wanted to. I'm a huge fan of p99 and I'd like to see it thrive instead of become stagnant

Nilbog has said (paraphrased) on at least one occasion that the server could be completely empty entirely and he'd be satisfied as long as he managed to make the server as classic as possible, code and content wise.

This is a funish idea (though I'm against it because damnit don't make my prenerf guises less cool) but it's fully against the intention of the server. C'est la vie.

[Rhambuk]

I look at it like this, the only valid argument against it is the fact it wasn't "classic" to begin with. Years down the road when Velious is in the same state kunark is in now. They are going to have to add things or tweak things to keep this server active and break that "keep it 100% classic in all aspects" model. Why? Because people can only do the same thing for the same reason so many times.


Yes, so lets keep it as classic as possible for as long as possible. post velious bring it on! but for now, i voted no.

[Buellen]

The cure disease poison npc was supposed to be their and working from original eq. it was not working here hence why it was bugged and put in the patch.

iksar have similar npc in swamp of no hope he even heals with appropiat reagent/turn ins.

Voted no since not classic and illusion do have effect on faction and other affects.

[Telin]

The Halloween idea with limited charges would be a fun holiday event, but not as a money sink because that would keep new players from joining in the fun. There are plenty of discussions on the internet concerning inflation in virtual economies. No idea is perfect. I did like the idea to have a developer auction of some kind where the money is taken from players hands similar to vendors but it wouldn't be permanent.

[Rhambuk]

Taxes based on stored plat in bank.

[Spitty]

Taxes based on stored plat in bank.

That's a funny way of saying 'interest'. Also, completely not on topic unless you're making a sly reference to the illusion of financial security in classic banking systems.

[Rhambuk]

thought we were just throwing out ideas to get rid of excess plat.

[Tecmos Deception]

I'll take 2 dark elf masks at 10 million each, please.

Derp.

[Fuzzi]

How about a one time use potion for 10 million and all you can be is a gnome? That sounds fair.

[Reguiy]

Great idea. Though I doubt you could get the staff behind this, as they have shown very little interest, if any at all, in fixing the extremely overinflated economy. And I agree, it would be a great money sink and would have exactly zero impact on gameplay.

[Tecmos Deception]

Great idea. Though I doubt you could get the staff behind this, as they have shown very little interest, if any at all, in fixing the extremely overinflated economy. And I agree, it would be a great money sink and would have exactly zero impact on gameplay.

Please explain to me how a dozen dudes like quido spending a few million plat that has just been sitting on an ec mule for 2 years is going to "fix" the "extremely overinflated economy."

[Reguiy]

Please explain to me how dudes like quido spending a few million plat that has just been sitting on an ec mule for 2 years is going to "fix" the "extremely overinflated economy."

Because hundreds of other people would be doing it as well. I personally would never spend anything on some crappy illusion that had no effect on gameplay, but many other people would and would be happy doing so.

One smart thing MMOs have done was introduce some sort of regulation on the influx of money. EQ classic didn't need such regulation since expansions were released relatively close and people spent that money on tradeskills and such. With such stagnation between expansions and especially when the server is in it's complete form (Velious), that regulation will be needed or no new players will want to join a server where they can't even start making a relevant amount of money until 60.

[Spitty]

Great idea. Though I doubt you could get the staff behind this, as they have shown very little interest, if any at all, in fixing the extremely overinflated economy. And I agree, it would be a great money sink and would have exactly zero impact on gameplay.

I totally understand.

I mean, if I was someone who got behind every idiotic "economy fix" idea that came along and none of them were implemented, I probably would also lack the brainpower to come up with a reason other than "oh, the staff doesn't care".

No, you're totally right. The staff doesn't care about the stability of a server that they've invested thousands of hours into. That is completely logical.

[Reguiy]

I totally understand.

I mean, if I was someone who got behind every idiotic "economy fix" idea that came along and none of them were implemented, I probably would also lack the brainpower to come up with a reason other than "oh, the staff doesn't care".

No, you're totally right. The staff doesn't care about the stability of a server that they've invested thousands of hours into. That is completely logical.

Geez. Didn't mean to strike a nerve.

I didn't say they don't care about server stability. They just don't think the massive inflation will be detrimental to the server's health. Or if they do, it's low on their priority list of things to fix.

[Calabee]

i'd spend 2m on a gnome and halfling mask, verious plz ~

[Calabee]

Because hundreds of other people would be doing it as well

Lol there's not hundreds of people who break 7 digits

[Skittlez]

This would be fu. For an asthetic illusion only. They would have to be no trade and any mob in the world can drop one. Very rare random one time 28 min illusion that won't affect any mobs outlook towards you. Basically we could hang out in ex and maybe have an illusion on.

[Skittlez]

EC*

[Clark]

Voted yes. Suprised there are so many no votes!! What a shame.

[Swish]

If I came to the server as a new player in 2016 and saw a bunch of "wrong illusions" on people it would probably make me think twice about the server as that's noticeably not Classic EQ.

[Ravager]

The economy is only shitty if you're one of those people who live in EC. People who play the game really aren't affected all that much.

That said, this idea really doesn't bother me all that much. Another not classic idea, charge a buttload for armor dyes.

[odiecat99]

Voted no. Sounded like a cool story though.

[Tecmos Deception]

Because hundreds of other people would be doing it as well. I personally would never spend anything on some crappy illusion that had no effect on gameplay, but many other people would and would be happy doing so.

I think you are overestimating how many players have how much platinum sitting around.

[Tecmos Deception]

If I came to the server as a new player in 2016 and saw a bunch of "wrong illusions" on people it would probably make me think twice about the server as that's noticeably not Classic EQ.

Good point.

[Daldaen]

Good point.

Since level 5 rogues and clerics with epics don't already make new players do that...

[Tecmos Deception]

Since level 5 rogues and clerics with epics don't already make new players do that...

Then go bump a bug thread about people below 45/46/50/whatever getting epics in bug forum.

[Daldaen]

Then go bump a bug thread about people below 45/46/50/whatever getting epics in bug forum.

Original EQ quests only allow for a faction check when completing a quest turnin. Which means all quests are doable at level one (unless the turnin or unMQable piece drops in a planar zone)

Luclin allowed for a level and class check
PoP allowed for a flag check

So every quest we will see on this server should be doable by every level, class and race given that combination can reach the minimum faction required.

Tldr - classic mechanic to get epics at level 1. Classic server environment limited epics to 46-50+

[Tecmos Deception]

Plat for race change (still within the normal race+class rules) would be better. Nonclassic mechanic, but the classic experience is maintained. People would get to change if they want to, plat gets eated up by NPCs, and we don't have a bunch of iksar clerics and erudite warriors and dwarf monks running around the server.

I'm still not sure that it would affect the economy much though. The people who can afford to pay 6-7 figures for a race change probably had the pp just sitting around not contributing to inflation anyway, or they had their wealth in items that they liquidated in order get the pure plat for the race change. Maybe that'd have an effect down the road but it certainly wouldn't have a pervasive effect in the short term.


Plat for name changes (or maybe not cause people would QQ about it letting people escape reputation or something), deity changes, respending stats (someone else mentioned this). All those things would work towards this goal of destroying platinum while not changing the way people experience the game itself because the only thing you're letting people change is stuff they had control to do at one point in the past anyways.

[Tecmos Deception]

Original EQ quests only allow for a faction check when completing a quest turnin. Which means all quests are doable at level one (unless the turnin or unMQable piece drops in a planar zone)

Luclin allowed for a level and class check
PoP allowed for a flag check

So every quest we will see on this server should be doable by every level, class and race given that combination can reach the minimum faction required.

Tldr - classic mechanic to get epics at level 1. Classic server environment limited epics to 46-50+

So what's your argument here? That the server is already imperfect because having lowbies with epics wasn't something you saw on live, so we should make it even more imperfect by adding in more features that you never saw on live either?

[Raavak]

I'm still for a Shadowhaven-esque casino.

[Daldaen]

So what's your argument here? That the server is already imperfect because having lowbies with epics wasn't something you saw on live, so we should make it even more imperfect by adding in more features that you never saw on live either?

My argument is this; it is already imperfect so using the argument that illusions would make it imperfect is flawed. Since it already exists. A crappy metaphor is one where you're in a life raft and someone already shot one hole in the base of it. Then you argue that a second hole will sink you. The first will sink you just fine the second will just accelerate the process.

You can argue that adding MORE unclassic things will make it more apparent to new players that this server isn't really classic. But the longer the play they will realize it isn't really classic. Does that make sense?

The way I saw your argument it sounded like this would be a tipping point into unclassicness where it already is what with level 5 epics and such. The number of twinked Alts and powerlevels and max level toons and epics on low levels currently are glaringly obvious examples of how unclassic we are currently. Illusions clerics as iksars would just add one more example (which sort of exists already when GMs illusion people in EC. There has been a cursed hand from Karnors corpse in tunnel for a week now I think for example. That would've made me stop and ask questions for awhile if I ran by it in classic)

I'm not really arguing for or against this. I wouldn't be too bothered if guise were buyable for 1 million. Adding in other illusions I may be bothers by but meh it's an illusion. Doesn't add or detract much from the game other than a cosmetic affect.

[Daldaen]

I'm still for a Shadowhaven-esque casino.

This would be neat but you'd need to put it in high keep (casino tables and stuff) and change the rewards.

SL casino was...
Rubi BP
Scimitar of Mistwalker
Holgresh Elder Beads**
Ton Po Bo Staff
Prenerf Fungi Staff
Guise of Deceiver
Vibrating Gauntlets of Infused
Mounts

So... Guise and Rubi BP I think would be fine. Holgresh Elder Beads are Velious so shouldn't have those. Scimitar of the Mistwalker is quite rare (but now nerfed) so I can imagine some butt hurt about putting that in. Ton Po and prenerf Fungi are too OP to be added. Vibrating gauntlets are bis currently not so sure they should be added either. Mounts obviously no.

So what would you fill it with? Guise, Rubi BP and... What else?

[radditsu]

Fuzzy foothairs dawg

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=110360

[username17]

Right now? Absolutely not.

Lets revisit after Velious is 2-3 years old.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Anyone got a link of the "not classic" kid chugging milk?

[baalzy]

Give me your plat. I'll spend it to buy tinkerer bags for my chars. That'll take a good 160k out of the economy :P

[Tecmos Deception]

My argument is this; it is already imperfect so using the argument that illusions would make it imperfect is flawed. Since it already exists. A crappy metaphor is one where you're in a life raft and someone already shot one hole in the base of it. Then you argue that a second hole will sink you. The first will sink you just fine the second will just accelerate the process.

Did you miss the part about how the staff are attempting to create the most classic server they can?

The fact that it is humanly impossible to create a "perfect classic server" doesn't mean they suddenly should be putting in any and every nonclassic feature you can dream up just because "well it's already not classic so BRING ON CATS ON THE MOON!!!" or some shit.

[Darkyle]

Roll an enchanter, all the illusions you could want ;)

[Splorf22]

Personally I think we have too damn many characters and gear and such after years of Kunark and I wish there was something we could do to remove them.

But it won't happen.

[Raavak]

Time will effectively remove them as people move on...

Like how many manastones and guises are actually used anymore compared to how many are on characters that haven't been logged in. Maybe a bored GM/dev can figure that out.

[Pheer]

Server will need a plat sink eventually, I still say they should just add the king's court casino with a custom prize list after a year or two of velious

Grand prize could be like guise or an oogly stick, intermediate prizes could be something like 10 dose illusion pots, 10 dose port pots, etc.

Maybe prismatic dyes if the dye system hasnt been torn entirely out of the client and the staff isnt judgemental against people that want a full hot pink ogre or something

[Daldaen]

Did you miss the part about how the staff are attempting to create the most classic server they can?

The fact that it is humanly impossible to create a "perfect classic server" doesn't mean they suddenly should be putting in any and every nonclassic feature you can dream up just because "well it's already not classic so BRING ON CATS ON THE MOON!!!" or some shit.

Most classic server should have hoops that are rechargeable and red wood wands that are rechargeable. Would also have a forced UI that limits your field of vision and completely negates it while meditating at low levels.

They try to get a mix of classic and balance/feasibility.

Guise was added to the Luclin casino so it isn't that far fetched to have a vendor sell one :/.

[baalzy]

Most classic server should have hoops that are rechargeable and red wood wands that are rechargeable. Would also have a forced UI that limits your field of vision and completely negates it while meditating at low levels.

They try to get a mix of classic and balance/feasibility.

Guise was added to the Luclin casino so it isn't that far fetched to have a vendor sell one :/.

Is the red wood wand no longer rechargeable? Only change I saw about it was it can't be clicked in PvP.

[Portasaurus]

Server will need a plat sink eventually, I still say they should just add the king's court casino with a custom prize list after a year or two of velious

Grand prize could be like guise or an oogly stick, intermediate prizes could be something like 10 dose illusion pots, 10 dose port pots, etc.

Maybe prismatic dyes if the dye system hasnt been torn entirely out of the client and the staff isnt judgemental against people that want a full hot pink ogre or something

I am curious about this King's Court Casino.... is it a real, automated NPC casino where you could win plat and items? I never played that far in live so I'm not familiar at all with it...

[Daldaen]

You buy a token for 100 plat from a merchant.

Turn in the token to one of four NPCs (depends on your class). You get a random reward.

If you get a golden ticket you turn that into a special NPC to get one of 8 rare items (all of which are lore). If you turn it in and randomly get an item you already possess (which is lore) it gives you back the ticket. Keep turning in til you get an item you don't own already.

[Portasaurus]

You buy a token for 100 plat from a merchant.

Turn in the token to one of four NPCs (depends on your class). You get a random reward.

If you get a golden ticket you turn that into a special NPC to get one of 8 rare items (all of which are lore). If you turn it in and randomly get an item you already possess (which is lore) it gives you back the ticket. Keep turning in til you get an item you don't own already.

Sounds neat! Is this coming in Velious? (again, pardon my ignorance of the features/timeline)

[Daldaen]

It was an LoY addition or some time around then I believe. But it was post-Luclin/PoP.

Although the rewards are all Classic-Velious stuff removed from game -- excluding the drogmor mounts.