Updated Red PnP

[Derubael]

Here it is:

Rules that are specific to Project 1999 Red: The PvP Play Nice Policy.

All of the rules stated above still apply to Project 1999 Red PvP, with the following exceptions:

The PvP Servers are a special case for many of the policies listed here. When one makes the decision to play on a PvP Server, they are in essence agreeing to play on a server where compromise is decided on the basis of who has the power to kill whom.

By the same token, we expect that the people on those servers will apply PvP combat in all situations where it is called for, as a resolution to the problem. As such, the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will decline to intervene in cases where a PvP alternative exists, such as at disputed spawns where the parties involved have the ability to attack each other.

Please note that this means that kill stealing is still against the rules on Project 1999 Red. If you wish to steal someones kill, it is recommended you kill the player first and then kill their mob.

Though the PvP environment does eliminate a few of the problems experienced on the normal blue server, there are a few more PvP-specific problems that are created.

Causing Experience Loss.

Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR. This includes things such as intentionally training NPCs. We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and no disciplinary action will be taken in those cases.

Much like how the Kill Stealing rule applies to those on the blue servers, this rule is designed to discourage and make note of those who do it habitually, thus betraying the spirit of PvP. As a note, the P99CSR will not in any case provide a resurrection for someone who was caused experience loss in PvP, intentionally or otherwise. This is one of the dangers of playing on a PvP server.

Bind-point/Corpse Camping and Loot and Scoot (LnS)

Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of looting and scooting is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.

Conversely, the person recovering their corpse is expected to do so and retreat to safety promptly. In other words, sitting next to your corpse and taunting someone while daring them to attack you so that you can /petition them is bad form, and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.

A player is 'Looting and Scooting' (LnSing) when he has died to an opponent and opts to call Loot and Scoot. You must call Loot and Scoot at least once in global OOC or your LnS claim will not be valid, and you can be killed. You may call Loot and Scoot in any zone after respawning from death so long as you head straight for your corpse. If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone. If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions. You may not attack or be attacked while Loot and Scooting. After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med and memorize spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone. If multiple players died in PvP and all choose to LnS, they may help each other do so (IE, res each other, drag corpses, port, etc) unless they have already opted out of LnS by fighting after death. After you have left the zone, you are considered to have finished Loot and Scooting, and may again be attacked.

If you are killed and opt to fight instead of calling Loot and Scoot, you forfeit any later opportunities to invoke LnS. If you log out you may return in 1 hour and call Loot and Scoot.

In large scale PvP (7 or more players on one side), LnS must be called by a force as a whole. Individuals may not invoke Loot and Scoot. LnS may be called by the force at any time, this option may never be forfeited. If a fight took place across multiple zones, the force is considered to have finished LnS'ing once all of their players have left the zones affected. All other LnS rules still apply.

In regular PvP, you can only ever have one zone lockout active per group of players at any time. If a fight occurred across multiple zones, the winning group picks which zone the lockout will apply to.

In large scale PvP there is no limit to the number of zones a force can be locked out of. If a fight took place across multiple zones the lockout will apply to all zones a PvP related death occurred in.

Excessive bind point camping (killing a player over and over at their bind point) is against the rules.

Excessive killing of a player or group after they have finished LnSing may be stopped by a Project 1999 CSR, but is not against the rules.

The P99CSR in attendance will decide what is reasonable in these cases. It is highly recommended that the people involved make equitable arrangements prior to involving the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff.

[Derubael]

First person to mention anything related to Tune's ban gets banned.

[Rellapse36]

first

[chu]

All of the rules stated above still apply to Project 1999 Red PvP, with the following exceptions:

this line is left in by mistake and will cause unnecessary confusion ty

[Derubael]

naw its there on purpose.

[Tradesonred]

Banned for rooting someone kiting or fighting a mob. Ahh i remember those days on Rallos... classic. oh wait.

[Gaffin 3.0]

what is this bs

[Tradesonred]

I guess the bard can just keep kiting while his buddies come over and gank the Player Playing Nice. Bulletproof ruleset.

[Gaffin 3.0]

so we cant kill the mob before engaging them, but if i engage them and they die from mob from low hp while casting a nuke again i get banned? legit

[Gongshow]

So basically, LNS is never in play unless you specifically call for it? Regardless of Small scale or large scale PVP?

[Derubael]

We don't care if you root someone fighting a mob, that rule is there for trains or people who repeatedly cause experience loss through other means in PvP.

We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and will take no action unless a person earns a reputation of causing unintentional experience-loss.

[Butthead]

im still waiting to get unbanned. i made 1 mistake on christmas night being a drunk fool in /ooc about the new pnp rules and i got suspeneded and then sirken rebanned it.

every1 makes mistakes clearly, but it seems like only the population is suffering from the mistakes.



i think it would b more appealing to everyone if you addressed Why the new changes happened and why they're being changed again. and will they be changed in the future?

are you jus trying new things? is there a plan? ppl are talking of making a new server now. its getting dumb. plz dont let red99 fall for a stupid reason.

/bow Derubael

[Tradesonred]

We don't care if you root someone fighting a mob, that rule is there for trains or people who repeatedly cause experience loss through other means in PvP.

The wording is everything then, you should specify this under the rule.

[Derubael]

So basically, LNS is never in play unless you specifically call for it? Regardless of Small scale or large scale PVP?

Correct. And if you're in small-scale pvp and you choose to fight instead of LnSing, you can't call LnS later when you've decided you've had enough.

[Derubael]

Edited causing experience loss:

Causing Experience Loss.

Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR. This includes things such as intentionally training NPCs. We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and no disciplinary action will be taken in those cases.

Much like how the Kill Stealing rule applies to those on the blue servers, this rule is designed to discourage and make note of those who do it habitually, thus betraying the spirit of PvP. As a note, the P99CSR will not in any case provide a resurrection for someone who was caused experience loss in PvP, intentionally or otherwise. This is one of the dangers of playing on a PvP server.

[Gongshow]

So basically, LNS is never in play unless you specifically call for it? Regardless of Small scale or large scale PVP?

Correct. And if you're in small-scale pvp and you choose to fight instead of LnSing, you can't call LnS later when you've decided you've had enough.

Eggcelent news!

[Tune]

new rules are much better

ty v much

[Tradesonred]

I dont see the difference

"Intentionally causing experience loss to other players in the pvp environement is illegal in all cases"

Thats the definition of rooting and engaging someone who is on a mob. Would you let slip someone whos auto attacking as the player dies to a mob and ban someone you see letting the mob get the last hit?

Youre banning people over this, characters that people have put a long, long, time in. It cant be ambiguous.

[Derubael]

shoot an arrow or start casting a spell right before the mob gets the last hit then interrupt it if you're worried about it. we're not going to punish anyone who roots a bard thats running a fat kite.

and nobody is gettin permabanned over any of this. you'll probably eat a suspension or get a warning on the first offense depending on the severity.

[Gaffin 3.0]

well good to know because this has happened twice for me killing someone and i didnt mean it, getting your a faggot xp killing me but then rezzing them after naw mean because i didnt mean to do it

[Nirgon]

First person to mention anything related to Tune's ban gets banned.

I think this guy (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2284777/unban_tune.mp4) is outside your jurisdiction though

[Derubael]

I'm not going to change the wording on the experience loss section because there are too many situations to cover. Charming a mob, putting it on a player its KOS to and then gating out comes to mind. Or mezzing someone and pushing them into a pack of KOS npcs.

[Gaffin 3.0]

i read the rules twice, im just making it clear so i dont get suspended, i see what derub is saying now thanks

[Gaffin 3.0]

seems like every pvp kill involves "enjoy your ban" without even breaking rules and these fucking bluebies need to gtfo

[Tradesonred]

That's why there is oversight that is in the form of humans that are on the CSR staff that are vetted and given increasing levels of power as they prove to be stable, intelligent and controlled people. If you post a log of yourself meleeing a person and missing the final kill to a mob engaged in pvp i bet the GM, the human with reasoning power, would not suspend/ban you.

If you're known to constantly feign mobs on someone and beat on them wantonly allowing the mobs to kill people with some regularity i would assume the GM's would punish you, which is why they've written this as a possible outcome in the rules.

People act as if they want a description of every possible scenario with a rigid return as to what the GMs will do in response. Use common sense please, the general spirit of the Play Nice Policy is to PLAY FUCKING NICE. If you get you rocks off being a sadist and hurting people then follow the rules and maybe you can do that here. If you are here for pvp, competition and to be part of a free-to-play emulated EverQuest server then be a fucking person and dont try to torture people and exploit/abuse the loopholes and letter of the law.

Not that hard.

But i mean, every chance i got on Rallos, id root someone on a mob on my wiz. Not because im a meanie and i want them to eat experience loss, because its one of the most effective ways of ganking someone.

Theres a difference between wanting a description of every possible scenarios and pointing out that the ruleset states that intentionally causing xp loss is illegal in all cases. Its pretty unequivocal. If i was someone just reading the rules and not the fine print in these commentaries, id assume id get consequences if im knowingly causing xp loss for a player.

[Gaffin 3.0]

this will never be like rallos bro, not even close, everyone even voted against item loot

[Tradesonred]

I'm not going to change the wording on the experience loss section because there are too many situations to cover. Charming a mob, putting it on a player its KOS to and then gating out comes to mind. Or mezzing someone and pushing them into a pack of KOS npcs.

But see thats exactly what i mean. The ambiguity. Id consider charm as part of the tools an enchanter has in PvP. Thats why i like simple rules like if youre not using a 3rd party program or bugging out mobs, you can do it. Anyway im not trying to change it, cuz i dont play here anymore, just playin armchair dev. Theres a style of playing or something that clashes here and things that GMs assume is obvious to everyone is really not.

[Eslade]

But see thats exactly what i mean. The ambiguity. Id consider charm as part of the tools an enchanter has in PvP.

You can still charm mobs and use them in PVP. You just can't use them for the sole purpose of causing intentional xp loss.

[Tradesonred]

You can still charm mobs and use them in PVP. You just can't use them for the sole purpose of causing intentional xp loss.

Ok so like, use the mob to kill the guy but OH FUCK THE MOBS GONNA KILL HIM QUICK NEED TA CAST

its fuckin ridiculous

What if you want to kill the guy and youre low on health no mana and hes rooted and pretty much the only way youre gonna kill him is to gate out

[Tradesonred]

So youre calling me an idiot and im trolling the thread. Mensa levels of smart here, einstein.

[Eslade]

Ok so like, use the mob to kill the guy but OH FUCK THE MOBS GONNA KILL HIM QUICK NEED TA CAST

its fuckin ridiculous

What if you want to kill the guy and youre low on health no mana and hes rooted and pretty much the only way youre gonna kill him is to gate out

1) If this is the case you're a jerk.
2) If you do it all the time and especially in front of a GM, I'm sorry but you're going to eat a ban. Once probably isn't going to get you suspended, but if it was blatantly intentional, then welcome to banland.

If I'm wrong please correct me GM's.

[Tradesonred]

If I'm wrong please correct me GM's.

Youre making my point for me

[Eslade]

Youre making my point for me

TBQH the only way to make these rules work is to code them in, but that's not going to happen. So a lot of these problems and violations are going to be solely decided by the GM's. Just how it is.

[Eslade]

Gonna make a quick check list to not get banned for you. Answer these questions honestly and you probably won't get banned.

!) Am I being a jerk?
2) Am I doing something over the top just to ruin this other person's play time?
If yes, don't do what you're about to do?

[Tradesonred]

But thats totally subjective. If youre blowing up a station in eve online youre being a jerk and pissing in someones cheerios. Aaaaanyway....

[Tradesonred]

I wasn't going to go out of my way to call you stupid. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you were feigning ignorance as you trolled.

Your track record as an idiot who levels to 59, goes AFK/Away and drowns repeatedly down to level 54 and cries foul, ragequits, gets angry at the GM's for 'unfair' treatment as he's not rebound to a better location in the firepots, gets ressed to 57 and then quits server in rage and RMTs his shaman because he can't hack it... you know what, on second thought, yeah you are a fucking retard.

Sorry Red99 isnt for you, you have to be this tall (85 IQ) to play here.

Whoa did you just accuse me of RMT? Excuse me? Thats what i meant by my comment, you say im trolling but youre not using argumentation or discussion youre just calling me stupid to try to get the last word. And now youre lying about me RMTing my shaman and rage quitting the server when i left out of boredom.

Youre trolling, not me.

[Butthead]

rip classic eq pvp

[Eslade]

But thats totally subjective. If youre blowing up a station in eve online youre being a jerk and pissing in someones cheerios. Aaaaanyway....

Different game. If you're caught intentionally causing xp loss, you're not going to be around long. It'll be up to the GM, but the PnP is there to help guide the less moral of us to not be such jerks. There will be rule lawyers, but these are the best rules that the GM's could come up with AFTER ASKING THE COMMUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.

[Derubael]

2) Am I doing something over the top just to ruin this other person's play time?
If yes, don't do what you're about to do?

this is your golden rule^

nobody is gonna eat a permaban over this shit. you'll probably get a warning or a short suspension the first time we think you've crossed a line.

go pvp. let people lns when they ask for it. have fun. and dont worry about losing your character for forever if you mess up.

enjoy

[Fame]

oh fuck that video is gold

[Derubael]

^banned

[Sektor]

shoot an arrow or start casting a spell right before the mob gets the last hit then interrupt it if you're worried about it. we're not going to punish anyone who roots a bard thats running a fat kite.

and nobody is gettin permabanned over any of this. you'll probably eat a suspension or get a warning on the first offense depending on the severity.

lmfao. nite nite *****

[Sektor]

welcome back gyno!

[Mingo]

the Meat Cats are still unsure the server is safe, retirement continues.

[Labanen]

So now there is no rule about ressing into pvp ? Or am i reading this wrong !

[Kergan]

So now there is no rule about ressing into pvp ? Or am i reading this wrong !

The way I understand it, in small group PVP (under 7) if you were to rez someone back in you're forfeiting LNS.

In large scale PVP, rezzing is allowed without restriction until LNS is called by one side. At that point all players on LNS are free to help each other get to and rez corpses if needed.

I must say Derubael I think you've done a nice job with this. No system will ever be perfect and without loopholes, but I think especially in the mass scale PVP this will allow people to focus on the fight and not the eligibility of a target.

[Pudge]

if RD is on LNS from nihilum in solb, can Dentists slay our naked guys in lavastorm who are on a CR?

Can our geared guys who didnt die attack Dentists?

(this happened tonight. i didnt attack any Dentites, but they did kill at least one of our guys in LS)

[mitic]

can someone shorten the new pnp in a few words whats new or not? iam not here to become the bachelor of everquest-pvp-pnp by studying a wall of text

thanks!

[heartbrand]

if RD is on LNS from nihilum in solb, can Dentists slay our naked guys in lavastorm who are on a CR?

Can our geared guys who didnt die attack Dentists?

(this happened tonight. i didnt attack any Dentites, but they did kill at least one of our guys in LS)

No. Rules say no one may attack them on LNS. You're also allowed to Rez on LNS now and do all the things necessary to CR.

[Tradesonred]

can someone shorten the new pnp in a few words whats new or not? iam not here to become the bachelor of everquest-pvp-pnp by studying a wall of text

thanks!

You can ask Hippo i think his major is Zone control: Should I LNS and he minored in Killing nakeds

[Mac Dretti]

Question 1) What about people that choose to NOT call LNS but once they get caught they call it at 20% hp -- are we suppose to read chat and duck the final blow even tho the person is using it as a "divine aura" for emergency when he/she had no intention of calling LNS?

I guess the question is, do they have to call it immediately upon entering zone, and immediately upon seeing someone/seeing someone zone in?

Question 2) What about people that die in PvP and decide to rage log or go afk or whatever may happen and camp naked at bind for several hours. When they log back in say 5 hours later can they still call LnS?

How will anyone know if its just someone abusing PvE corpse runs with LnS immunity or if it is in fact a PvP death CR?

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Regarding OOC or Zone broadcast:

I think LNS should be OOC broadcasted, as well as zone. This will prevent people from calling LNS in zone A with shout, LNS in zone B with shout, then PvPing in zone C.

[Tune]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/300/348/aca.jpg

[Derubael]

Question 1) What about people that choose to NOT call LNS but once they get caught they call it at 20% hp -- are we suppose to read chat and duck the final blow even tho the person is using it as a "divine aura" for emergency when he/she had no intention of calling LNS?

I guess the question is, do they have to call it immediately upon entering zone, and immediately upon seeing someone/seeing someone zone in?


Needs to be called immediately upon entering the zone, and immediately upon seeing someone/seeing someone zone in. None of this wait till i'm almost dead then LNS!!!! bullshit.


Question 2) What about people that die in PvP and decide to rage log or go afk or whatever may happen and camp naked at bind for several hours. When they log back in say 5 hours later can they still call LnS?

How will anyone know if its just someone abusing PvE corpse runs with LnS immunity or if it is in fact a PvP death CR?


If you rage log without getting your corpse, you're not going to be able to claim LnS when you come back. This actually applies to the 1 hr timer after you've forfeited LnS as well. The reasoning behind this is that it's too easy to abuse and get protection from pvp with. Obviously everyone can see recent YT, so if you're not doing your corpse run right then and there after the death, you can't call LnS. If you log out, come back, get killled on the way to your corpse, you can then claim LnS and go get your original body if you didn't get it already, then get the corpse from the zone you were killed in after logging back on.



Regarding OOC or Zone broadcast:

I think LNS should be OOC broadcasted, as well as zone. This will prevent people from calling LNS in zone A with shout, LNS in zone B with shout, then PvPing in zone C.

Agreed. At least 1 ooc message required for LnS to be claimed is a good idea, then shouts or oocs as you move through zone. I'll edit right now.

In regards to this, how to call LnS, etc, if you guys see a_random_nublet001 and he has no idea whats going on, take a minute to explain to him that he can safely get his corpse if he calls LnS. or point him to the forums. Not everyone reads up on here, so some people just flat out won't know theres a new ruleset.

[chu]

what if someone just wont leave?
loots corpse without calling LNS and sits down in same spot where just slain?

[Derubael]

if they loot their corpse without calling LnS... why the fuck didnt you kill them before they got to their corpse? =P

[Derubael]

o, unless you're just bein a pal and letting them get their stuff. in which case, do whatever you want. If they get their corpse without calling LnS they are fair game.

[chu]

i just dont want my actions to fall into the "excessive" catagory
thank you for quick reply :)

[Derubael]

please be nice with the new players though. they may not know they had the option of calling LnS. use your best judgement and try not to screw people just because you can.

It's not against the rules obviously, but lets try to give new players some leeway so they dont immediately rage quit 20 lvls in.

[Mac Dretti]

Thanks Derubael

The Gods of Norrath have blessed us and PnP is turning out A-OK!

[Sektor]

rettiwalk killed loudog last night after he called LNS. Please check the logs between 1:30 to 2:30 east Saturday night and ban DAT mexcian

[Tradesonred]

and RMTs his shaman because he can't hack it... you know what, on second thought, yeah you are a fucking retard.

Sorry Red99 isnt for you, you have to be this tall (85 IQ) to play here.

While were on the subject of banning, i would assume lying about someone selling his account for money to try to win an argument must be against the PnP rules of forumquesting. Please ban and throw away the key.

[chu]

doesn't work without exp loss in pvp death
im assuming its someone trying to prove something but i can spend my time online focusing on one player and that player can gain multiple levels a day
not classic

[Tradesonred]

doesn't work without exp loss in pvp death
im assuming its someone trying to prove something but i can spend my time online focusing on one player and that player can gain multiple levels a day
not classic

Can someone translate this

[chu]

yeh its a lil confusing sorry
i meaaan
a certain unanon cleric has been leveling in a certain zone
a certain troll slays that cleric as much as he wants but the cleric wont leave
the cleric benefits by leveling 3 times while dying dozens of times
not classic

[heartbrand]

chewie sure posts a lot for someone with 1 YT a week

[chu]

chewie sure posts a lot for someone with 1 YT a week

dummest thing i read all year

[Rellapse36]

1 yt a week ? like one a month

[chu]

leaderboard disappearing was the best thing red dawn propaganda committee could have ever hoped for

[Tubben]

yeh its a lil confusing sorry
i meaaan
a certain unanon cleric has been leveling in a certain zone
a certain troll slays that cleric as much as he wants but the cleric wont leave
the cleric benefits by leveling 3 times while dying dozens of times
not classic

You can try to enforce LnS by killing him over and over and over. And if he refuse to go, it's in the last consequence your problem.

It's not like that certain player harms you in any way if he stays in the zone and xp's.

Beside this, if the cleric is someone named pepin or papin or somethink similar : good job in killing an ungeared cleric over and over, who just trys to get some xp to earn some levels.

[k9quaint]

leaderboard disappearing was the best thing red dawn propaganda committee could have ever hoped for

Nihilum said they would never bring down the leader board. Then they got trounced in PvP, leader board disappeared the next day.

[Kergan]

Nihilum said they would never bring down the leader board. Then they got trounced in PvP, leader board disappeared the next day.

I give this troll a D-. Such a shame, you had the makings of a decent troll but you've gone batshit crazy over the last few weeks. :(

[Colgate]

I give this troll a D-. Such a shame, you had the makings of a decent troll but you've gone batshit crazy over the last few weeks. :(

actually what he said was true

was it actually the cause? maybe, maybe not

but nihilum did lose a mass pvp fight and either either that day or the next day the leaderboard was taken down

[iiNGloriouS]

actually what he said was true

was it actually the cause? maybe, maybe not

but nihilum did lose a mass pvp fight and either either that day or the next day the leaderboard was taken down

[k9quaint]

I give this troll a D-. Such a shame, you had the makings of a decent troll but you've gone batshit crazy over the last few weeks. :(

Truth hurts. You probably were not logged in when it happened since there were no dragons up.

[chu]

bring back the leaderboard!!

[Pudge]

Lol. The rage-delete of all Azrael kill shots was better though.

[HippoNipple]

I agree with bringing back the leader boards and I'm about to be a real easy target for the next 2-3 weeks. Would be great if we could get it added by the staff instead of someone who has been caught tampering with the numbers.

Also would love to see filters for monthly, weekly, etc. Maybe even throw out a temporary title for most kills or most points that reset to a new player every month.

[Andis]

So to clarify:

If I see a naked in the zone, and he doesn't shout LNS, he is fair game.

If a person is on LNS and people enter the zone it is his DUTY to call LNS, or he can die

am i getting this right?

new players I will not attack naked.

but Nihilum and FOH, you best believe dat.

[Kergan]

Truth hurts. You probably were not logged in when it happened since there were no dragons up.

This was definitely a better effort. To be fair though, total loots earned by since I got tagged Nihilum: 0. Yet I keep coming back. I must be a moran right? Couldn't possibly be because I like the people and I have fun hanging with them in Norrath.

[chu]

Nihilum and FOH

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/MACHINE-GUN-GIF1.gif

[Colgate]

This was definitely a better effort. To be fair though, total loots earned by since I got tagged Nihilum: 0. Yet I keep coming back. I must be a moran right? Couldn't possibly be because I like the people and I have fun hanging with them in Norrath.

yeah man i bet i'd love to hang in norrath with people like elderan, strydur, bulletproofx, rallyd, destin, etc.

8)

[Kergan]

yeah man i bet i'd love to hang in norrath with people like elderan, strydur, bulletproofx, rallyd, destin, etc.

8)

Honestly there are only two people that have really pissed me off between TS and in-game. Not gonna name names, but I will say it's nobody you listed. I think that's pretty good considering the amount of individuals involved with the guild. I also think I'd say about the same thing if I were on the RD side...a couple people annoy me but for the most part they are cool.

I'm in it for the pals not the pixels.

[Mac Dretti]

Excellent post Chewie

[Malevz]

Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR.

This is a fantastic idea. If you have a time machine you could go back several years and stop many players from quitting. No time machine eh? Little late then.

[heartbrand]

This is a fantastic idea. If you have a time machine you could go back several years and stop many players from quitting. No time machine eh? Little late then.

giggled

[Heywood]

So to clarify:

If I see a naked in the zone, and he doesn't shout LNS, he is fair game.

If a person is on LNS and people enter the zone it is his DUTY to call LNS, or he can die

am i getting this right?

new players I will not attack naked.

but Nihilum and FOH, you best believe dat.

People are abusing the LNS rule though.

I had some FoH claim LNS in two different occasions when they didnt die to pvp. I asked in ooc, that scum Selena (prior foh) claimed they did die in pvp, when that simply wasn't the case.

[Fame]

Playing nice has failed America and lead to a rampant and spiraling outbreak of both childhood obesity and Type II Diabetes. Bring bullying back.

[Mac Dretti]

This is a fantastic idea. If you have a time machine you could go back several years and stop many players from quitting. No time machine eh? Little late then.

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/crying-oklahoma-state-player-sports-crying-gifs.gif

[Bazia]

Server sucks since exp loss removal, I think I supported it at some point too.

I was so dum shoulda listened to chew.

[Gustoo]

I thought PvP board got removed because 2 boxer who hosted it got a ban for other reasons?

Server staff..priority one...item loot.

Priority two...leaderboard

Game fixed. Revert to pre kunark era too why not haha

[Travo]

can we get a sticky on this?

[Kergan]

I think it is, kinda. The PNP rules already stickied were updated with this info.

[Butthead]

bahahaha this shits still going on.

this server rocked before gm's started fuckin with it.

holo got banned while nihi is still alive lol.

and how many mistakes on pnp do we have now? LOL

sensitive sirken, you failed

[Clark]

Don't think I'd like PNP for pvp glad I don't play Red anymore. Some of it isn't all that bad, but definitely less challenging.

[Nocsucow]

Don't think I'd like PNP for pvp glad I don't play Red anymore. Some of it isn't all that bad, but definitely less challenging.

no matter what they do / change its not gonna help this server (

[Butthead]

ooop! gm's gotta fix the pnp rules.

you've prlly taken years off peoples lives with all this. alotta innocent ppl who are jus stupid n dont check forums get caught doing something that was (temporary) illegal and gettin banned over it.


red99 was much better before the gm's got involved. and letting a sensitive frail agent smith to ban ppl isint helping LLOL. ppl made a new server cause of your failures.

words cannot express my level of gratitude that i never donated, and never will.

i shoulda figured it was off when amelinda never solved my ice comet petition from 2 years ago, AND banned holo for xploiting twice, while nihi did it more. but didnt get caught?

and i thought amelinda was bad LOL you guys have taken it to the next level.

rip to all those who lost their characters due to gm's, not the game.