question about pnp

[mitic]

so ive been killed twice on a corpserun the last few days (which i dont care about) but i have a question now:

if i ever see one of those players doing a cr themself in the future, am i allowed to kill? i do even consider to exp death/delevel them if i catch them at their bindspot to give em a lesson about red dawns pnp. this would be also a better way to police those players instead of writing a QQ-thread on the report board here (i never did). those gms have more important stuff to do after all!

some answer from a gm would be great cause i dont want to risk an (unjustified) ban.

thanks
<3

[Tradesonred]

What kind of a question is that

Hey officer, i saw this guy speed on the highway at 150mph, if i see that guy again, can i zoom past him at 180mph to give him a lesson?

P.S. PnP sucks

[mitic]

i just dont have the patience to write some QQ-thread in the petition forum just because someone killed me on a CR but unfortunately there are alot of whiny kids on this server going straight to the petition board writing down a novel the moment they get killed on a cr.

thats basicaly why iam asking cause i dont want to get "fucking banned" (sirken®)

[Sektor]

gonna kill u naked next time I see you hehehehe

[mitic]

gonna kill u naked next time I see you hehehehe

gonna corpse camp you afterwards when i see u naked if gm allows me huehuehuehue

[Sektor]

gonna corpse camp you afterwards when i see u naked if gm allows me huehuehuehue

I'm 26-0 since leaving Nilly. Brobb/dad/RL friend Rod on my cleric have died but not me. In others words good luck seeing me naked.

[mitic]

yeah ive already heard that u obtained all pixels u needed in nihilum and left afterwards

[Andis]

I dont know what is going on about this PnP.

2 weeks ago, Thumperx killed my ench in seb, I spawn in TT naked, get dotted by some necro tagged nihilum, then Thumperx preceeds to zone out, and kill me again in TT, ALL within literally 30 seconds.

I sent a video to the GMs and have not received a response since.

Not sure if the GMs care at this point, but I see more and more people violating PnP, Not sure what else to think.

[Tune]

use that hobbit brain of yours

[Kergan]

I dont know what is going on about this PnP.

2 weeks ago, Thumperx killed my ench in seb, I spawn in TT naked, get dotted by some necro tagged nihilum, then Thumperx preceeds to zone out, and kill me again in TT, ALL within literally 30 seconds.

I sent a video to the GMs and have not received a response since.

Not sure if the GMs care at this point, but I see more and more people violating PnP, Not sure what else to think.

Pretty sure the thread Derubael made a few days ago and the ideas contained within it are just discussion points and not actually implemented. The original PNP is still in place, correct? In which case what you outlined above would not be considered a PNP violation, at least explicitly.

[Sektor]

yeah ive already heard that u obtained all pixels u needed in nihilum and left afterwards

I won a. dragon hero bracer. Rest I paid for. My pals came back.

[Andis]

Pretty sure the thread Derubael made a few days ago and the ideas contained within it are just discussion points and not actually implemented. The original PNP is still in place, correct? In which case what you outlined above would not be considered a PNP violation, at least explicitly.

wtf are you talking about kergan

you cannot kill someone naked who had just been yellowtexted, especially from the SAME PERSON, let alone the SAME guild, at his bind

stop posting you retard.

Andis ate a 5 day suspension, for killin a naked, one time, when I had just logged on.

[Sektor]

Kergan aka Thrillas butt buddy wants to stay on good standings with Nizzar by spamming the forums. As long as your RA is above 60% you're good pal. No need to spam the forums with poopy.

[Kergan]

The only rule that has anything to do with your situation in the currently stickied PNP is this:

Bind-point/Corpse Camping.

Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of retrieving their corpse is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account.

Notice is says "over and over". That explicitly defines a situation where someone is killed two or more times at their bind. Killing someone one time at their bind is then by definition not a violation.

This is the situation you posted:


2 weeks ago, Thumperx killed my ench in seb, I spawn in TT naked, get dotted by some necro tagged nihilum, then Thumperx preceeds to zone out, and kill me again in TT, ALL within literally 30 seconds.


So the way I read it, you die in Seb to Thumperx, then were DOT'd by a necro and killed a 2nd time by Thumperx at your bind spot in a different zone.

Or are you saying you were killed twice at your bind (once by necro DOT and the other by Thumperx)? In which case the post was unclear.

Regardless your contention (edited out personal attacks and other nonsense):


you cannot kill someone naked who had just been yellowtexted, especially from the SAME PERSON, let alone the SAME guild, at his bind

I do not see any rule that states you cannot do this in the stickied post defining the PNP, provided that your bind location is in a different zone from the one you were YT'd in.

[Sektor]

tldr l o l

[Kergan]

Kergan aka Thrillas butt buddy wants to stay on good standings with Nizzar by spamming the forums. As long as your RA is above 60% you're good pal. No need to spam the forums with poopy.

My RA is below 60%, the forumquest must continue.

[Kergan]

tldr l o l

I read my post again and it took me under 30 seconds. U dum or sumthin?

[Mac Dretti]

I kill nakeds after verifying they died pve.

Just once tho.

[Kergan]

I kill nakeds after verifying they died pve.

Just once tho.

Confirmed allowed by current PNP.

[hagard]

Pretty sure the thread Derubael made a few days ago and the ideas contained within it are just discussion points and not actually implemented. The original PNP is still in place, correct? In which case what you outlined above would not be considered a PNP violation, at least explicitly.

You are expected in all cases to give someone a reasonable amount of time to recover their corpse and leave the area prior to attacking again.

Kergan has gotten better at Reading Comprehension! (1)

[Mac Dretti]

Sup jobober

[mitic]

killing naked players, even if they died to pve just shows the true skills of someone doing this (= none)

but (!) i used to corpsecamp/delevel/expdeath/etc those specific players on sullon and vztz giving back their favour when they did it at least once to me before.

the problem at hand is the server police on this server who apparentely listens more to some novels in petition forums and since i dont write petitions at all on a pvp server i just dont wana get banned when i get my hands on someone CR who previously (hours/weeks/months before) killed me nakid.

[Kergan]

Kergan has gotten better at Reading Comprehension! (1)

You are expected in all cases to give someone a reasonable amount of time to recover their corpse and leave the area prior to attacking again. This also applies to raid/group/guild PvP.

This has been discussed many times and was covered specifically in Derubaels suggested modifications because it could be considered a loophole. It was addressed because multi-zone LNS is not covered under the current PNP. It was defined this way in his proposed rule changes:

If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone.


People who are enroute to CR aren't covered by the posted PNP rules governing LNS, i.e. no multiple zone LNSing. So, by being in TT and not OS you are not in the position to "recover your corpse" and there for you are not protected by LNS, only the PNP bind camping rules.

[hagard]

You are expected in all cases to give someone a reasonable amount of time to recover their corpse and leave the area prior to attacking again. This also applies to raid/group/guild PvP.


Kergan most illiterate poster of 2014 wooooooo

[Kergan]

Kergan most illiterate poster of 2014 wooooooo

Did you even read what I said? Or did that too effectively disprove your point that you are unable to address it specifically.

There is a reason that Derubaels suggestion modifications had very specific language to govern the exact situation Andis outlined: because it is not current protected by the posted PNP.

Work over for the day see you all on the forumquest tomorrow!

[Mac Dretti]

Hagard WTB druid access

[hagard]

Did you even read what I said?

god no

[Sektor]

Kergan name calling won't prove your point pal. 60% RA all you need.

[Mac Dretti]

Naw

[Andis]

kergan I dont know whether you are serious or dumb.

once a person dies pvp, they are naked.

under PnP, you are not allowed to kill them again. period. thats it.

you must let them LnS. It is the whole basis of this PnP, is to let the player get his corpse so he is not griefed. aka play nice policy

jesus christ dude, are you seriously that dumb?

[Mac Dretti]

I prefer nakeds and people fighting npcs

But only once per PnP u know

[Dacuk]

despite pnp being pretty dumb and confusing, andis' example is about as cut and dry as it gets. if you get killed in PVP you MUST LNS under current rules - that means nobody can attack a naked that was just killed pvp lawl. u dum kergan?

[Gaffin 3.0]

I prefer nakeds and people fighting npcs

But only once per PnP u know

[Tune]

kergan I dont know whether you are serious or dumb.

once a person dies pvp, they are naked.

under PnP, you are not allowed to kill them again. period. thats it.

you must let them LnS. It is the whole basis of this PnP, is to let the player get his corpse so he is not griefed. aka play nice policy

jesus christ dude, are you seriously that dumb?

will be running around with all my gear bagged

aww yis dat pvp immunity

[Clark]

I kill nakeds after verifying they died pve.

Just once tho.

:D

[Smedy]

will be running around with all my gear bagged

aww yis dat pvp immunity

spoken like a true griefer who will find any way to abuse rules