Bard Mana Regeneration

[Jete]

Bards are able to regenerate mana currently through the use of many songs / spells and effects (Manastone/Mod Rods) that are not classic (or current) for them.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ldoosh4EKt4J:everquest.allakhazam.c om/db/classes.html%3Fclass%3D4%26mid%3D107551353380132%2 6page%3D1+can+bards+use+modu+rods%3F+eq+1&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

"Posted: Jun 06 2004 5:03pm: If you get a mod rod as a bard and try to click it you will notice that you can't. Mod rods, and mana regen spells or paragon do not work on bards mana regen. With KEI, VoQ and Tranq you do get the benefit of a larger mana pool though."

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/classes.html?class=4&mid=107551353380132&page=1

"RE: would rock for bards, but..
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No instant/duration spells/songs will give a bard mana. This includes necro twitches and mod rods. Thus, a manastone will not give a bard any mana."

As reference, here is a list that I came up with off hand of current mana regeneration methods:

Cassindra's Chorus of Clarity (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=723)

Clarity (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=174)

Modulating Rod (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=99)

Manastone (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3650)

Necro Twitching (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1515)

[Lazortag]

Is there a list of methods by which Bards CAN regenerate mana faster than normal?

[MorganTPSO]

Is there a list of methods by which Bards CAN regenerate mana faster than normal?

Heres the list:

1. Flowing Thought items
2. Flowing Thought AAs

[astuce999]

Add meditating to the list that is currently helping bard mana regen but that shouldn't.

[Kanor]

Can we fix bards before we go ruining them even further ?

[Teeroyoyort]

meditate should work, but only a skill cap of 1 lol

[Lazortag]

Heres the list:

1. Flowing Thought items
2. Flowing Thought AAs

What's Flowing Thought? I think that's ahead of my time.

[mmiles8]

Flowing Thought was the original name for Mana Regen, back before everything got dumbed down so people would stop arguing over how many haste or how many regen or how much attack an item gave.

Back before this, Mana Regen was called Flowing Thought, I to V. It stacked to 20 originally.
Why do HP Regen and Attack Rating always come in a 1:5 ratio? Because there was an effect called Aura of Battle (worn and spell version) that was 2 hp/tick regen and 10 attack rating. They changed all of this later on to make it easier for folks to figure out.

[Lazortag]

So are there any classic items that use this "flowing thought" thing that you're talking about, in case (when mana becomes relevant) I feel like regenerating my mana faster on my Bard? Thanks.

[guineapig]

So are there any classic items that use this "flowing thought" thing that you're talking about, in case (when mana becomes relevant) I feel like regenerating my mana faster on my Bard? Thanks.

First flowing thought items will be in the game during Velious.

[guineapig]

Wait a second. Are you telling me that bards have been able to use clarity since day one on this server and this is the first time this has been posted?

[Jeice]

Can we fix bards before we go ruining them even further ?

this.

[Lazortag]

To make Bards as classic as possible, you need to take away the non-classic things that give them an advantage as well as give them the classic things that do the same. Basically, if you're bitching about Bards not being classic because they can't swarm kite or whatever, you have to bitch equally about Bards being able to use clarity.

[Lanvaren]

Don't forget to reduce the mana cost of SBB when these changes occur, as it was slowly increased from the original mana cost of 20/cast to 60/cast to cope with an increased ability to regen mana - own songs, clarity, etc,etc...