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shams
01-20-2014, 07:57 PM
How are you supposed to use it exactly? I was under the assumption that it was a great tool for soloing, but then I actually looked at it on the wiki and it says the cast time is 10 seconds. So, is it actually more useful in a grouping situation when you may actually have 10 seconds to get a free nuke off, or am I looking at this thing wrong?

I just got to 44 this weekend and I'm considering buying one at 45 which is the main reason I'm so curious.

Thanks!

William_Munny15
01-20-2014, 08:01 PM
on a snared mob if you just run just out of range and start clicking it, there's enough time for it to get off with a second or two to spare before the mob/quad gets to you. It's more useful soloing mainly, I've never really used it as a tool to dps in a group, personally I would rather be sitting and medding then a 184 nuke or what not

shams
01-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the tip. For some reason I was thinking that it wouldn't even let me begin to cast if I was out of range, but I was mistaken :)

baalzy
01-20-2014, 08:07 PM
Thanks for the tip. For some reason I was thinking that it wouldn't even let me begin to cast if I was out of range, but I was mistaken :)

It won't let you cast till the mob is in range. Just when they're snared it takes them more than the 10 second cast time to close the distance.

Daldaen
01-20-2014, 08:12 PM
Get out of range, make sure that when you click the staff it says your target is too far away, keep clicking until it starts casting, by then there should be enough space to get the cast off and move once it finishes.

I will occasionally use it as a single target nuke to finish off mobs if ES Vambraces aren't doing it quick enough.

Though if I could go back in time and smack the dev who designed the staff, I would've smacked them into changing the clicky to Combust or Firestrike. Single target nuke is far more versatile beyond just Quad Soloing.

shams
01-20-2014, 09:01 PM
Ok, thanks for all of the info. In your guys' opinion is it a must have item or just something that's nice if you can afford it and aren't lacking in other departments gearwise?

Daldaen
01-20-2014, 09:12 PM
I'd say its must have for a small level range.* From about 46-49~

*If you quad kite often/occasionally

If you group a lot or you charm kill, I don't think it is all that valuable however.

For reference, I'm a level 60 Druid, I bought the Lumi Staff probably 3~ months into Kunark at 54 or 55 I'd guess. I used it to quad kite Seafuries for a bit, and Hill Giants occasionally. Beyond that as I stated above, I swap it in to finish off a single mob if ES Vambraces are too slow

The spell being outdoor only does hinder a lot of its uses.

shams
01-20-2014, 09:52 PM
Great info, thank you :)

TWDL_Prexus
01-20-2014, 11:56 PM
That staff is great for quading dwarves in BB. Will get you to 49 in no time. You can do 3 quads right before the first respawns if you are quick enough.

Clark
01-21-2014, 12:47 AM
Dreadlands is an amazing spot for it.

shams
01-21-2014, 11:21 PM
I like this idea of killing dwarf guards... any downsides to this besides having to not run into guards in BB anymore? Are there any spots elsewhere you can think of where I'll be screwed?

baalzy
01-22-2014, 02:43 PM
druids murdering dwarfs is as classic as it gets. I wouldn't worry about the faction issues.

Erati
01-22-2014, 02:56 PM
1 druid epic turn in involves dwarf faction

"Give Kinlo Strongarm in North Kaladim, the jade reaver and receive Enchanted Clay"

this turn in will require dwarf slaughtering druids to fix their faction to complete

Man0warr
01-22-2014, 02:58 PM
You can kill some dwarves (Den Ironblend, etc) in BBM without damaging other dwarf factions. I did the 4 on dock and 3 near coast + 1 in house near high elf merchant tower up to level 46 - only faction it decreases is faction "Dwarf Commoners" or something.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
01-22-2014, 03:02 PM
I like this idea of killing dwarf guards... any downsides to this besides having to not run into guards in BB anymore? Are there any spots elsewhere you can think of where I'll be screwed?

There is some mid-level wizard in FV that appears to be on dwarf faction. I murdered like 1000 dwarves within Kaladim and appear to be kos to this chick in FV. She paths by the bank but I can't for the life of me remember her name.

Tasslehofp99
01-22-2014, 03:43 PM
Don't buy a lumi staff, its terrible.

ES Vambs are way better for the plat you'll spend.

Erati
01-22-2014, 03:51 PM
my lumi staff is retired til I kill those wyverns in cobalt scar :)

Daldaen
01-22-2014, 03:56 PM
my lumi staff is retired til I kill those wyverns in cobalt scar :)

This :).

Man that camp is going to be so very permafarmed. Same with Othmir most likely.

mefdinkins
01-22-2014, 04:32 PM
I had ES Vambs at 45 which took me about 8-9 hours, I think I root/rotted dwarves b/c I didn't have enough mana to quad them and I was saving all my plat for clickies instead of mana/wis? I hate level 45 and maybe I could have been more efficient but I wasn't.

At level 46 I got Lumi Staff and constantly pulled mobs until I hit 50. Level 46-50 took less time than 45-46 for me.

If you can afford it and there are quad spots available (even DL works), I'd get it.

Ravager
01-22-2014, 05:14 PM
I never unequip staff on my druid. Clicky nuke, even if it's outdoors only, is so incredibly useful. Never cared for the es vamps though. If I'm dotting something, it's being root rotted anyway, which means I'm medding, which means I may as well cast a stronger dot.

I'm still hoping this server will see Warden Symbol of Tunare implemented. That's the best druid clicky imo.

fadetree
01-22-2014, 05:25 PM
Yah, staff is well worth what it costs. No question.

Erati
01-22-2014, 05:29 PM
I'm still hoping this server will see Warden Symbol of Tunare implemented. That's the best druid clicky imo.

I have posted about that quest since 2009 when I came to this server :(

apparently we are still not in the proper timeline for it even though I have a pouch of red dust in my bank for the 3rd neck waiting for me to finish the 2nd neck

damn you lesserfay day/night cycles not working off the bat so we could have the necromancer spawn at the ruins!

Ravager
01-22-2014, 05:32 PM
I have posted about that quest since 2009 when I came to this server :(

apparently we are still not in the proper timeline for it even though I have a pouch of red dust in my bank for the 3rd neck waiting for me to finish the 2nd neck

damn you lesserfay day/night cycles not working off the bat so we could have the necromancer spawn at the ruins!

I imagine that when/if it ever drops, there's going to be a long line of druids for that camp in LFay. My first character on this server was a wood elf Tunare druid, rolled specifically for that quest.

shams
01-22-2014, 05:35 PM
As a druid who's never really quadded before (I know), is the strategy to round up around 4 mobs with snare, run far enough away so that it takes them about 10 seconds to get to me, and cast? This sounds challenging but well worth it once I get it down...

Erati
01-22-2014, 05:36 PM
I imagine that when/if it ever drops, there's going to be a long line of druids for that camp in LFay. My first character on this server was a wood elf Tunare druid, rolled specifically for that quest.

well I was camping it back in 2009 so wait in the back of the line !

Erati
01-22-2014, 05:41 PM
As a druid who's never really quadded before (I know), is the strategy to round up around 4 mobs with snare, run far enough away so that it takes them about 10 seconds to get to me, and cast? This sounds challenging but well worth it once I get it down...

yes if are quad-ing with this staff you need to run out of casting range and spam click your staff as the mobs slowly creep into range

soon as they hit in range the cast time is so long that the mobs will basically be within 1-2 seconds away from raping your face, so you need to make sure you start trying to cast when they are still out of range... IE you must begin casting at the max distance allowed

once you are good and practiced with the staff, you can time your escape much safer by literally starting to run fractions of a second before your staff hits however first time or two you do this will probably just interrupt your spell

but practice it and you will be quad-ing a lil safer with the lumi staff

Thugnuts
01-22-2014, 06:44 PM
Get a lumi staff and head to DL, screw BB that's for chumps. The whole point of lumi staff is non-stop quadding, almost entirely mana free. Trying to use it in BB defeats the purpose due to limited and frequently contested spawns.

DL = you never run out of mobs. By the time you kill 4 mobs, 20 more have spawned within easy reach.

BB = kill a few here, kill a few there, run across the zone to see that someone is now claiming half the spawns. Congrats, you just spent 5k to camp 3-4 dorfs that you could easily solo without the staff.

BB loot is better per kill, but false economy for the big picture. Bind yourself near hunting area in DL and insta-tell anyone who asks for evac to EJ. Make 300+ plat an hour doing evacs and level quickly 46-49, opposed to racing people to dwarf spawns for what, 100p an hour?

DL all the way.

Man0warr
01-22-2014, 07:21 PM
Buy it and use it until 49-50 when you get new AE DD, then sell it. It's still slightly useful after that but I'd rather use that money to increase my mana pool so I can cast more 477 damage AEs.

kuuky
01-22-2014, 09:09 PM
I was excited about acquiring this staff before but now after reading this thread I'm literally drooling. 42 atm and climbing.

Briscoe
01-22-2014, 09:34 PM
Don't buy a lumi staff, its terrible.

ES Vambs are way better for the plat you'll spend.

I assume you never quad kited anything that was level 40 or higher?

shams
01-22-2014, 10:57 PM
I was excited about acquiring this staff before but now after reading this thread I'm literally drooling. 42 atm and climbing.


Haha me too, man :)