DAOC Origins - 40 hours till server launch

[Tradesonred]

Sorry to post it here, hope its ok. I honestly wish nothing but the best for the future of red99 but myself im done with it.

So theres a DAOC server that opens on 16th 12pm EST

http://daoc-origins.net/download/

Client and patch link, then use DAOC portal to connect

Theres already a post in off topic but since its a pvp heavy game and im guessing part of the pop dont read off topic, i figured would be good to put a thread here

Again wish nothing but the best for red99, not trying to steal players, directed at players like me whove hanged their red99 jersey but still read forums once in a while.

[Stasis01]

I played DAOC for a very short time, is this an emulator or a new DAOC game?

[Tradesonred]

Its an emu. Runs patch 1.62 where Uthgard runs 1.65

[HippoNipple]

I played DAOC for a very short time, is this an emulator or a new DAOC game?

I also never played but always seems like people loved the game that did. Ditto on that question, is this something like a classic EQ server or would it be compared to a new EQ live server opening?

[mitic]

meh, played beta back in 2001 (?), deinstalled after some hours and never looked back

[Tradesonred]

I also never played but always seems like people loved the game that did. Ditto on that question, is this something like a classic EQ server or would it be compared to a new EQ live server opening?

Classic, it runs the classic game + the shrouded isles expansion, so like Kunark i guess.

[Tradesonred]

meh, played beta back in 2001 (?), deinstalled after some hours and never looked back

Never got past 30 on uthgard but mainly because i was getting run over in RvR by established hard twink gank trains, gonna be nice to try this on a clean slate.

[HippoNipple]

I'm sure I would be more excited if I knew more about it. Trying to learn an old game like that where others are experts is a big task unless you have a ton of time to invest.

[Tradesonred]

Yeah not gonna lie game is a bit impenetrable, only get a respec at 40 i think. Still looks like a game with depth though. Im going as mercenary and theres a bunch of abilities i can only do if a player has done something. So if he parries, i can do that counter, etc etc...

Theres some noob info last pages of this thread

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?4617-DAOC-Origins-New-Server

If you ask nicely some experienced player there is probably gonna give you some tips on a good class template, class choice etc...

A good page for class breakdown separated for each faction

http://uthgard.blogspot.ca/p/albion-class-guide.html

Im gonna play with the rerolled crew and theyre gonna be easy on noobs, accept every class in groups etc... most are going albion

The uthgard forums is also a good source of info because its close in patch status, although i wouldnt take anything as cash because there is some differences, good for general class outlines etc

[Nune]

Going Scout on Albion.

ProTip : If you want to play this on launch, get it installed and ready now. Bunch of shit you have to do to get it working, and those forums are burtal, tonto speak galore

[Tradesonred]

Not really lots of things to do

Download game, patch it with the patch thats linked on the download page

Download the DAOC portal launcher

Launch game

profit

[dreama1]

I tried to download it but it doesn't connect to the download link thing. I turned off my firewall. Anyone else having this problem?

[Gustoo]

DAOC is definitely skerry because I never played. Its like trying to play EQ but with half the fan base and the main game is PVP so people don't mind letting you suck big time, while a lot of EQ was blue so super helpful (in old days, now they are total retards)

Not exactly anxious to get in and start sucking.

Someone post some correct ways to "spec" your character or build him or whatever for if any P99 noobs come over.

[Ryko]

Yeah not gonna lie game is a bit impenetrable, only get a respec at 40 i think. Still looks like a game with depth though. Im going as mercenary and theres a bunch of abilities i can only do if a player has done something. So if he parries, i can do that counter, etc etc...

Theres some noob info last pages of this thread

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?4617-DAOC-Origins-New-Server

If you ask nicely some experienced player there is probably gonna give you some tips on a good class template, class choice etc...

A good page for class breakdown separated for each faction

http://uthgard.blogspot.ca/p/albion-class-guide.html

Im gonna play with the rerolled crew and theyre gonna be easy on noobs, accept every class in groups etc... most are going albion

The uthgard forums is also a good source of info because its close in patch status, although i wouldnt take anything as cash because there is some differences, good for general class outlines etc

The games fun, I played it at launch for a while and just about 2 years ago for a brief stint. There's a lot of strategy in pvp but the whole game has been min maxed to hell. Do enough google searching and you'll find the best spec/gear/abilities

Good luck, hope you decide to come back to r99

[Nirgon]

http://www.uthgard.net/herald

Killed mad dragons nomesayin.

Basically no one online during US East prime. Much doorquest.

VERY MUCH DOUBT it will have a higher pop than Uth. So, fuck it.

[Tassador]

DAOC is for nerds

[Eslade]

Played when DAOC came out until ToA was released. Forgot everything about it. Played Uthguard for a few hours. Promptly deleted. How is this server any different?

[Tradesonred]

Played when DAOC came out until ToA was released. Forgot everything about it. Played Uthguard for a few hours. Promptly deleted. How is this server any different?

1.62 patch + SI which i dont think uthgard has

Fresh new server

http://www.uthgard.net/herald

VERY MUCH DOUBT it will have a higher pop than Uth. So, fuck it.

Kinda excited to see what the numbers will look like on day 1

Hopefully its not a dissapoint

[FoxxHound]

I may try it, and if I do Midgard all the way. Cuz BD easy mode n shit.

[Tune]

will i have fun

[AmukTZ]

Wow.

[Tradesonred]

The game is ok, but I easily conquered it. I was 3rd on server in time invested, so yeah, I was pretty good. I never had to get up out of my gaming chair because my mom shuttled me non stop snacks and energy drinks while she got fucked by our neighbor which was just a little older than me. His name was Chaz, he was cool though. He wore bigass JNCO jeans and He had a 48 woodelf ranger on Veeshan.

Not sure if it was all the slapping noises I heard in the backround that had spoiled my immersion or not, but I'll fancy another a shot if there is PnP.

Yeah moms get fucked

What kind of nerd thinks this shit is edgy

[Eslade]

The game is ok, but I easily conquered it. I was 3rd on server in time invested, so yeah, I was pretty good. I never had to get up out of my gaming chair because my mom shuttled me non stop snacks and energy drinks while she got fucked by our neighbor which was just a little older than me. His name was Chaz, he was cool though. He wore bigass JNCO jeans and He had a 48 woodelf ranger on Veeshan.

Not sure if it was all the slapping noises I heard in the backround that had spoiled my immersion or not, but I'll fancy another a shot if there is PnP.

Hey look it's Hateraid trying way too hard and working towards a ban. Looks like Rellapse really did rustle his jimmies.

[Genedin]

Pros: DOAC pvp is amazingly fun. Low level battle grounds where you can learn, higher lvl where its very complex.

DAOC PVE is a lot like what you are used to with EQ. You grind your character, there are some dungeons but no instances. Grouping is essential.

Graphics aren't bad from what I remember, nothing like modern but enjoyable still.


Cons: Game is hard. At least when I played in beta and in launch there were no guides or maps so you were figuring everything out on your own. I'm sure now it's easier just like P99 is a hollow shell of what EQ on launch actually was. This is also a Pro for many people.

Much like in everquest, the hardest classes to level are often the most fun in pvp. A rogue type class in insanely fun. There is no "See invis" and you can run into a group of people and kill someone and sometimes escape. That being said, without "twink' gear you are going to find it extremely hard to level.

All in all I think I may give it a try. I may find myself un-installing after an hour of remember how hard it is, or may remember how fun it is in pvp and stick around.



@Tune- Will I have fun?
Well, there is a "Bard" class that is essential for pvp for speed, mez, etc so you may enjoy that. Also with the amount of time you dedicated to your character you will excel at that game easily and enjoy the high-end pvp.

[Bamz4l]

I played DAOC for a very short time, is this an emulator or a new DAOC game?

when we started this game, the very first dungeon at around level 10 wasn't even itemized yet, no loot lol

[Genedin]

Bamzal you mean for this beta for back in the day? I seem to remember that being the case at launch. also pathing bugs were insane

[SamwiseRed]

tempted tp try this. i love the idea of each faction having their own unique classes. game looks kinda shitty tho even compared to eq.

[Marglar]

I loved DAOC, the siege / keep / relic pvp was very intense. the combos were kind of refreshing for melee classes, too. the classes were fairly unique

where it fails: /stick in pvp is absolutely retarded, you don't have to manually move your character as a melee once you stick someone, you just focus on your abilities and counters and combos. the other I disliked is how critical your group composition is to be competitive in pvp. it can be frustrating if you can't fill a critical role

[Kergan]

Will not play unless I get DKP.

[Bamz4l]

im talking about the original DAOC launch - even the noob dungeons weren't itemized at launch

[Chronoburn]

I didn't get a chance to play DAoC due to my EQ immersion levels at the time. I think I'll give this a shot.

Ex-DAoC Pro's - What are the ez mode classes? Kind of like wizard in EQ.

[Sigleaf]

Uthgard, a server similar to origins has a population that is highly based in euro timezone (roughly 80%) so a lot of the mass pvp is hard to find. I'm not sure what origins is like but its also based in Europe so its something to consider.

I played DAoC a lot back in the day and I can give you some insight on ez mode classes. First, pvp endgame in DAoC is based around a core 8 man group. Sometimes there are zergs but the majority of guilds run in strict 8 man groups. Each faction has a vastly diverse class selection and that will dictate a lot of class options. There are also stealther groups/zergs that usually never participate in 8 man runs but are effective at ganking solos/duos or other stealthy.

EZ mode classes in PVE are:

Albion: Necromancer (By far best soloer in game)
Midgard: Bonedancer (can have up to 4 pets at a time, some of which heal or do damage plus has access to a easy mode instant cast life-tap, will pull mobs and tank)
Hibernia: Tough choice here, animist is an amazing class but not ez mode because there's a lot of thought and management that goes into summoning pets and where to summon.

PVP I wont touch to much on because it really is determined by how you play. As I said before you can really go one of 4 styles in DAoC. You can solo roam, stealth zerg, realm zerg, or 8 man. All classes can pretty much be effective but in 8 man groups you are expected to play certain specialized classes.

Midgard: Shaman, Healer, Zerker, Warrior, Savage, Runemaster
Albion: Sorc, Cabalist, Armsman, Merc, Cleric
Hibernia: Bard, Druid, Blademaster, Eldritch, Enchanter, Hero

Probably missing a few, if I am I will edit as I just did a rough draft to give you an idea of what to expect. I would not suggest you play a Bard or Healer (Mid Class) as a first time char as they are highly advanced classes. Melee are not terribly hard to play in DAoC due to the stick command but positioning is very important in DAoC as well as reaction for triggering certain weapon attacks.

My recommendation is to try a Bonedancer for Midgard. While not as great at soloing as a Albion Necromancer, they are able to still be effective in PVP, just not 8 man groups.

One last thing, and a warning to all who plan to play the stealth classes (including archers/assassins) you will most likely never get a group in PVE and leveling will be slow, more so for assassins as archers can solo decently. Those include:
Albion: Infiltrator & Scout
Midgard: Hunter & Shadowblade
Hibernia: Ranger & Nightshade

[Sirbanmelotz]

I'll be playing on that DAoC sever. My name is Pooxi on the albion side

[Grumppygregsz]

One last thing, and a warning to all who plan to play the stealth classes (including archers/assassins) you will most likely never get a group in PVE and leveling will be slow

Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.

[Marglar]

Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.

mostly due to the volume of players playing them. there are a metric crap ton of stealth class players in daoc, so it can be difficult to find a group. classes that can take more of a hit or provide more group utility are usually preferred, dps was never a huge concern in the game.

[Sigleaf]

Could you elaborate? I was planning to play a stealthy type. Why are daoc rogues not group friendly or solo friendly? Seems like a class that would be welcome in groups but that is probably my eq bias speaking.

It has to do with several things for which:

1) Assassins/Archers DPS is not good, they are based around spike damage, not sustained damage, furthermore a archer cannot do a crit shot to a mob that is already in combat.

2) The nature of PVE in DAoC is such that if you have a full group when you pull a mob you will get 3-4 mobs. You can single pull in DAoC but efficient groups don't do this because they don't get a massive "group" exp bonus that the game awards for pulling packs of mobs. This means that your group is going to need 3 characters that can take hits, especially if mobs resist mez, which happens all the time.

Throw out everything you know about rogues in other games because in DAoC they are very fragile. Some rogues that are very high realm ranks and who have severe advantages over enemies will win 1v1 (outside of stealth) but it is not the norm, a rogue in DAoC is all about the burst damage to eliminate a target quickly.

And as Marglar notes, there are a lot of them. Hibernia will be full of Rangers because they are very powerful on a non buffbot server because they have a spec line with very good self buffs. Albion will have a lot of infiltrators because many regard them as the best assassin. If you want a challenge, give Midgard a try, at least their assassin (shadowblade) can wield 2 handers, but I wouldn't recommend it :P

[Gustoo]

It sux this is launching at the beginning of the spring semester. Should have launched for the winter or summer break. I can't even bother to download it because I know its going to be a mad time sink. Looks like a ball though.

[runlvlzero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehrfLpUJps

[Gustoo]

I think eq PVP looks just as retarded to people not de sensitized to it. Basically all PVP looks bad.

edit (except street fighter)

[Sigleaf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yga3V1kvvpU

More likely what you'll be seeing. Link runzero posted was from live servers with new frontiers and shit ToA expansion.

[Gustoo]

Lol looks the same to me.

[dethbringre]

I'll be fighting the good fight for the mids looks like.

Some of my best MMO memories came from this game. Darkness falls as a lowbie trying to level up and suddenly losing control and getting one shotted from scouts that you never seen til it was too late, thats good stuff

[Chronoburn]

Thanks for the breakdown Sigleaf.

Grumpy - Did you play as Frumpyfrank too on SZ? Been a long time but I thought you guys were connected somehow.

[Tradesonred]

Servers up, lots of fun. Currently in a 16 player double group downing hard mobs on dat xp train

[Pitborn]

There seems to be some kind of bug with delays regarding the validation email being sent when you register for an account.

1 Hour and counting.

[Nocsucow]

yea im still waiting also
3 hrs now

[FoxxHound]

I'm on atm. Names Envy