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lite
01-09-2014, 07:50 PM
I am very aware of the fact that presently, your main emphasis is on Velious. Which we couldn't thank you enough for, many of us are extremely eager to enjoy the new content you are providing us with, by sacrificing your free time.

However, while your intentions are the best. There is a very small window of time that we are presently in, where you guys have the ability to let the red server bloom.

As it presently stands, thanks to the new PNP rules the server has been basically hitting 200 players every night. A high point in the history of red, which we are extremely thankful for.

This is your opportunity not only to keep it that way, but to allow it to grow even further. Presently and I beleive for the next few weeks to come, all re spawn based action on this predominantly American server will be occurring from 3 am - 8 am.

There are many who are extremely commited to the server and will arrange their lives in order to be able to make this. However, the high majority will not. Because of red's non variance nature as we've seen over the last several months. These spawns will stay out of most people's participation time for the next 4-6 weeks. ( check the death logs - spawn timers do not spread out )

At a time where the server's population is blooming and so many new comers are settling into Red, this simply can not occur. The action can not be kept for a month + , in a time period that is not accessible to the overwhelming majority of the community.

I can not stress enough how important spawn timers are to a red server. It means everything, its the origin of the action. It simply can not get locked into a 3 hour when most players are sleeping. PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS MOMENTUM GO TO SHIT.

There are very few spawns ...outside of the weekly repops. Very few opportunities for pvp ... this can not sustain the 50 v 50 matches that are just waiting to be triggered during an adequate spawn shcedule.

Nirgon
01-09-2014, 07:51 PM
Resist system fixes -> +100 pop
Item loot -> +67 pop (minus half of Nihilum factored in)

Almost 400 pop with all that. Would be great.

Classic server is popular imagine that.

lite
01-09-2014, 07:52 PM
Resist system fixes -> +100 pop
Item loot -> +67 pop (-half of Nihilum)

i'd prefer if we can keep the opinions to players that presently play.

Kergan
01-09-2014, 07:54 PM
Resist system fixes -> +100 pop
Item loot -> +67 pop (minus half of Nihilum factored in)

Almost 400 pop with all that. Would be great.

Give away free hats -> +500 pop
My favorite color is red -> +60 pop
Broncos win superbowl -> -25 pop

Look, numbers! They are so simple.

Colgate
01-09-2014, 07:55 PM
i'd prefer if we can keep the opinions to players that presently play.

why would you discredit the opinion of someone who is very obviously a potentially prospective player

lite
01-09-2014, 07:57 PM
i'd rather place emphasis on something the staff has already agreed to do, rather than shit up the thread trying to sell them new stuff.

chu
01-09-2014, 07:57 PM
clicked hoping to see funny or at least colorful pictures
saw a wall of text
writing this reply while disappointed

Kergan
01-09-2014, 07:58 PM
I am very aware of the fact that presently, your main emphasis is on Velious. Which we couldn't thank you enough for, many of us are extremely eager to enjoy the new content you are providing us with, by sacrificing your free time.

However, while your intentions are the best. There is a very small window of time that we are presently in, where you guys have the ability to let the red server bloom.

As it presently stands, thanks to the new PNP rules the server has been basically hitting 200 players every night. A high point in the history of red, which we are extremely thankful for.

This is your opportunity not only to keep it that way, but to allow it to grow even further. Presently and I beleive for the next few weeks to come, all re spawn based action on this predominantly American server will be occurring from 3 am - 8 am.

There are many who are extremely commited to the server and will arrange their lives in order to be able to make this. However, the high majority will not. Because of red's non variance nature as we've seen over the last several months. These spawns will stay out of most people's participation time for the next 4-6 weeks. ( check the death logs - spawn timers do not spread out )

At a time where the server's population is blooming and so many new comers are settling into Red, this simply can not occur. The action can not be kept for a month + , in a time period that is not accessible to the overwhelming majority of the community.

I can not stress enough how important spawn timers are to a red server. It means everything, its the origin of the action. It simply can not get locked into a 3 hour when most players are sleeping. PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS MOMENTUM GO TO SHIT.

There are very few spawns ...outside of the weekly repops. Very few opportunities for pvp ... this can not sustain the 50 v 50 matches that are just waiting to be triggered during an adequate spawn shcedule.

I'm personally ok with simulated patch days as a way to stir things up without involving pooping in a sock. I can't make very many 4am raids. That might cost me some DKP and my fanboy title though. :\

But the population gain was a mere illusion I'm afraid. A product of people on vacation and an exp bonus. Maybe we picked up a few but last couple nights when I logged in it was at the 150ish number it was at the last 2 months or so.

Kergan
01-09-2014, 07:59 PM
clicked hoping to see funny or at least colorful pictures
saw a wall of text
writing this reply while disappointed

Are you eating a bagel at least?

lite
01-09-2014, 08:00 PM
I'm personally ok with simulated patch days as a way to stir things up without involving pooping in a sock. I can't make very many 4am raids. That might cost me some DKP and my fanboy title though. :\

But the population gain was a mere illusion I'm afraid. A product of people on vacation and an exp bonus. Maybe we picked up a few but last couple nights when I logged in it was at the 150ish number it was at the last 2 months or so.


I am not concerned with where they came from, but rather ensuring that they can remain involved. Obviously most people here are not trying to make 3 am raids. ... grats to those that are. lawlz...

Nirgon
01-09-2014, 08:02 PM
PnP's classic Lite, juz sayin.

Classic features do wonders for the pop.

Experience it like it was back in 99 and nostalgia being the main draw and all that.

Nune
01-09-2014, 08:03 PM
blooming lol.


bloomin onion more like it

lite
01-09-2014, 08:07 PM
last 2 traks uncontested @ 6 am ... same with dracos basically.

DrRoach
01-09-2014, 08:08 PM
just had a patch day last thursday. let me edit all of lites future posts down to one simple line. " i want free loot wahhhhhhhhhhh". please drive through

lite
01-09-2014, 08:11 PM
just had a patch day last thursday. let me edit all of lites future posts down to one simple line. " i want free loot wahhhhhhhhhhh". please drive through

The point clearly flew right over your head

the patch was at 3 am ... now the spawns stay there till the next reset.... aka no battles outside 3 am - 6 am for the next 4 weeks


need a wildcard respawn every 2 weeks at least.

freez
01-09-2014, 08:14 PM
the patch was at 3 am


need a wildcard respawn every 2 weeks at least.

Eslade
01-09-2014, 08:14 PM
The point clearly flew right over your head

the patch was at 3 am ... now the spawns stay there till the next reset.... aka no battles outside 3 am - 6 am for the next 4 weeks


need a wildcard respawn every 2 weeks at least.

Called it (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132858)

DrRoach
01-09-2014, 08:18 PM
The point clearly flew right over your head

the patch was at 3 am ... now the spawns stay there till the next reset.... aka no battles outside 3 am - 6 am for the next 4 weeks


need a wildcard respawn every 2 weeks at least.

you went right too the uncontested mobs and got loot. pixel lust trumps pvp for you everytime

lite
01-09-2014, 08:21 PM
what does one team's NPC selection have to do with anything ? The other team can chose to attack, or not to .... the point is presently none of the scenarios can playout when all 85% of players are asleep.

I can dumb this down further, just ask.

Nirgon
01-09-2014, 08:23 PM
1 or 2 patches a month sounds about classic... this happened on live even on pvp servers with repops.

lite
01-09-2014, 08:25 PM
1 or 2 patches a month sounds about classic... this happened on live even on pvp servers with repops.

every 2 weeks is ideal.

this is something the staff already agreed to do, just posting because given recent events it became a lot more urgent.

Nixus
01-09-2014, 08:31 PM
i'd prefer if we can keep the opinions to players that presently play.

write post about attracting players, discourage attracted player.

ehwtfx?

DrRoach
01-09-2014, 08:34 PM
write post about attracting players, discourage attracted player.

ehwtfx?

you're guilded with that moron mr. nixus. its about time youcome to the good guys

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 08:39 PM
Didn't realize lite was in Red Dawn nor realized he set the raid schedule / strategies / recruitment policies, had admin access to forums etc. Thank you for enlightening me.

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 08:40 PM
inb4 raiding together makes you one guild. I participated in a raiding alliance on Quellious on EQ Live. Both guilds had completely different loot systems, recruitment policies, etc. We raided together because of the difficulty of fielding enough players for 54 man content on eq live when the server barely had 400 pop.

Tassador
01-09-2014, 08:52 PM
Knicks tonight nets tomorrow with king james jersey and jshuttleworth goodluck!

DrRoach
01-09-2014, 08:57 PM
inb4 raiding together makes you one guild. I participated in a raiding alliance on Quellious on EQ Live. Both guilds had completely different loot systems, recruitment policies, etc. We raided together because of the difficulty of fielding enough players for 54 man content on eq live when the server barely had 400 pop.

i get that was very common on live. when you have lite starting threads asking for dragon repops i might as well lump you all together. we know his little 10 man clique cant do shit by themselves.

Mac Dretti
01-09-2014, 09:01 PM
tldr

bluebie stop filling forums with ur bluebie beliefs

blubie

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 09:06 PM
tldr

bluebie stop filling forums with ur bluebie beliefs

blubie

repops are classic, 8+ week stretches with no repops is not.

Mac Dretti
01-09-2014, 09:07 PM
ya those classic repops were also accompanied by patches

not crassic is not crassic

http://img.pandawhale.com/62638-breakfast-Club-deal-with-it-gi-MLuC.gif

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 09:09 PM
ya those classic repops were also accompanied by patches

not crassic is not crassic

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. There were pretty frequent server crashes back then accompanied by repops. However, it's true that patches aren't applied classically here. Perhaps they should be then? Either way, frequent repops is classic, so I don't get your point.

Mac Dretti
01-09-2014, 09:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VQYr2.gif

Rallyd
01-09-2014, 09:15 PM
what does one team's NPC selection have to do with anything ? The other team can chose to attack, or not to .... the point is presently none of the scenarios can playout when all 85% of players are asleep.

I can dumb this down further, just ask.

With 85% of red dawn asleep they can still field 50 players, cry more.

IronLionn
01-09-2014, 09:19 PM
LITE BROTHER, step away from the EQ.

k9quaint
01-09-2014, 09:23 PM
repops are classic, 8+ week stretches with no repops is not.

Yep.

iiNGloriouS
01-09-2014, 09:46 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/62638-breakfast-Club-deal-with-it-gi-MLuC.gif
Thizz face.

Tune
01-09-2014, 10:05 PM
I respect OPs opinion. I see where you are coming from, but I got another analogy for you in return:

The US National Debt is over 17 trillion dollars. The government could easily throw those printing presses in overdrive, printing enough money to pay their own debt off. But, they don't, because it would thoroughly and completely DESTROY the economy and the value of the dollar, much more worse off than it already is.

Flooding the server with mobs won't make your problems go away. The mobs are the mobs, and there won't be more mobs till the next xpac. The server needs to figure a way to work it out without having trak pop every 29 minutes.

This is why repop days are bad

I easily see my guild getting most mobs on repop day due to better organization, batphone etc

more loot for me so i should be on board right? nope

mikemandella
01-09-2014, 10:20 PM
This is why repop days are bad

I easily see my guild getting most mobs on repop day due to better organization, batphone etc

more loot for me so i should be on board right? nope

That was taken WAYYYY out of context... That was a blue player asking for faster repops and more mobs to solve their problems of working together.

LITE IS ASKING FOR CLASSIC PATCH DAYS that were already promised.... You really think 1-2 trak\VS\inny a month that don't go to nihilum will hurt that much..

- Oppressor

Tune
01-09-2014, 10:24 PM
no it will go to nihilum

HippoNipple
01-09-2014, 10:36 PM
just had a patch day last thursday. let me edit all of lites future posts down to one simple line. " i want free loot wahhhhhhhhhhh". please drive through

I get that you don't like lite but you dont' even understand what is being said before you post. He is just saying it would be cool if repops were during peak times so more people would be involved. It isn't even about variance it is just about having the fun content go on while more people are playing.

I encourage you to be more selective when trying to get a good zinger in on your forumquest enemies.

Mac Dretti
01-09-2014, 11:01 PM
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6783/thizz6zo9vl2kl.gif

Rallyd
01-09-2014, 11:07 PM
I get that you don't like lite but you dont' even understand what is being said before you post. He is just saying it would be cool if repops were during peak times so more people would be involved. It isn't even about variance it is just about having the fun content go on while more people are playing.

I encourage you to be more selective when trying to get a good zinger in on your forumquest enemies.

Translation, let's get these mobs on Red Dawn raid times so we can bring 150 players to them and still wipe.

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 11:12 PM
no it will go to nihilum

Except they didn't last repop. Red Dawn consistently has more people on and does constant planar clears. If the weekly random pop happened during those that's a mob you're not getting guaranteed. Give me a fucking break dude. The repop that happened last week was thrilling with both sides rushing to mobs and was some of the most fun I've had since day one. The following week of everything on same timer was bleh.

Clark
01-09-2014, 11:28 PM
Resist system fixes -> +100 pop
Item loot -> +67 pop (minus half of Nihilum factored in)

Almost 400 pop with all that. Would be great.

Classic server is popular imagine that.

nice

Nizzarr
01-09-2014, 11:30 PM
Except they didn't last repop. Red Dawn consistently has more people on and does constant planar clears. If the weekly random pop happened during those that's a mob you're not getting guaranteed. Give me a fucking break dude. The repop that happened last week was thrilling with both sides rushing to mobs and was some of the most fun I've had since day one. The following week of everything on same timer was bleh.

not a single pvp kill happened in those 4 hours too

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 11:31 PM
You knew where we were you could've come on over! [isn't that the Nihilum standard line?]

HippoNipple
01-09-2014, 11:35 PM
Translation, let's get these mobs on Red Dawn raid times so we can bring 150 players to them and still wipe.

150 lol.

Both guilds can zerg at different times, but both guilds can zerg harder during prime times. It is just the difference between a 20 vs 20 and a 50 vs 50. You are dumb.

HippoNipple
01-09-2014, 11:38 PM
You knew where we were you could've come on over! [isn't that the Nihilum standard line?]

Sure sounds like what Nihilum used to say to Azrael. This Nizzar fellow might just be a flake.

Tune
01-09-2014, 11:39 PM
You knew where we were you could've come on over! [isn't that the Nihilum standard line?]

ur dumb as fuk

sorry we dont prioritize talendor, u know where the fight was and u wanted none of it pussy

Tune
01-09-2014, 11:40 PM
Except they didn't last repop. Red Dawn consistently has more people on and does constant planar clears. If the weekly random pop happened during those that's a mob you're not getting guaranteed. Give me a fucking break dude. The repop that happened last week was thrilling with both sides rushing to mobs and was some of the most fun I've had since day one. The following week of everything on same timer was bleh.

everything important did

Rallyd
01-09-2014, 11:42 PM
150 lol.

Both guilds can zerg at different times, but both guilds can zerg harder during prime times. It is just the difference between a 20 vs 20 and a 50 vs 50. You are dumb.

You mean the difference between 30v50, or 40v80. Please keep your numbers straight.

Greegon
01-09-2014, 11:45 PM
no it will go to nihilum

whoever gets the dragon isnt the point though, the point is that theres 0 chance for any pvp if everything is spawning 3am-6am.. that's just insane

Colgate
01-09-2014, 11:50 PM
everything important did

wait you mean talendor and faydedar dont matter to you? then why have you killed them on a strict schedule for the past 15 months?

to cockblock other guilds from them? you refuse to leave them up for other guilds, therefore they are in fact important to you

and i know the fact that someone else killed them made many people in your guilds' skin crawl

Tune
01-09-2014, 11:50 PM
na brah, u mad

heartbrand
01-09-2014, 11:54 PM
wait you mean talendor and faydedar dont matter to you? then why have you killed them on a strict schedule for the past 15 months?

to cockblock other guilds from them? you refuse to leave them up for other guilds, therefore they are in fact important to you

and i know the fact that someone else killed them made many people in your guilds' skin crawl

g1

HeisChuck
01-09-2014, 11:58 PM
grandmaster putting the smack down on tune every time i refresh the forums

i dk why tune even gets involved with him, always ends up ugly in the end

Tune
01-09-2014, 11:59 PM
colgate is like a fuckin tape recorder at this point. all he does is spout the same inacurate, incoherent babble. I dont even think he is real anymore. he must have set up a bot that posts for him.

heartbrand
01-10-2014, 12:01 AM
inacurate

Colgate
01-10-2014, 12:22 AM
this guy's calling me a robot?

http://i.imgur.com/9BGx9ad.png

real funny coming from someone who has over 200 days /played and for months sat in overthere every morning at 5 AM killing the sabertooth cats in order to grind his tailoring up for a coldain shawl that won't even be in the game when an unannounced velious comes out(it's been almost a year since then, and still no sign of it coming, how sad is your life?)

lite
01-10-2014, 12:47 AM
You knew where we were you could've come on over! [isn't that the Nihilum standard line?]

no kidding ... like you knew where we went. You have every one of those items x 6 in the bank. You selected safely acquiring farmed to death items over PVP. Bring it on :)

Tune
01-10-2014, 01:47 AM
this guy's calling me a robot?

http://i.imgur.com/9BGx9ad.png

real funny coming from someone who has over 200 days /played and for months sat in overthere every morning at 5 AM killing the sabertooth cats in order to grind his tailoring up for a coldain shawl that won't even be in the game when an unannounced velious comes out(it's been almost a year since then, and still no sign of it coming, how sad is your life?)

this was me mocking u

Mac Dretti
01-10-2014, 02:10 AM
no kidding ... like you knew where we went. You have every one of those items x 6 in the bank. You selected safely acquiring farmed to death items over PVP. Bring it on :)

shut up nerd

BeautBabeC
01-10-2014, 03:50 AM
Nihilum so rustled but RD just trying to play this EQ server and have fun. So amusing to watch these guys unfold.

Mac Dretti
01-10-2014, 04:01 AM
Love red dawn

Welcome 2 server

bigeasy
01-10-2014, 09:17 AM
I am very aware of the fact that presently, your main emphasis is on Velious. Which we couldn't thank you enough for, many of us are extremely eager to enjoy the new content you are providing us with, by sacrificing your free time.

However, while your intentions are the best. There is a very small window of time that we are presently in, where you guys have the ability to let the red server bloom.

As it presently stands, thanks to the new PNP rules the server has been basically hitting 200 players every night. A high point in the history of red, which we are extremely thankful for.

This is your opportunity not only to keep it that way, but to allow it to grow even further. Presently and I beleive for the next few weeks to come, all re spawn based action on this predominantly American server will be occurring from 3 am - 8 am.

There are many who are extremely commited to the server and will arrange their lives in order to be able to make this. However, the high majority will not. Because of red's non variance nature as we've seen over the last several months. These spawns will stay out of most people's participation time for the next 4-6 weeks. ( check the death logs - spawn timers do not spread out )

At a time where the server's population is blooming and so many new comers are settling into Red, this simply can not occur. The action can not be kept for a month + , in a time period that is not accessible to the overwhelming majority of the community.

I can not stress enough how important spawn timers are to a red server. It means everything, its the origin of the action. It simply can not get locked into a 3 hour when most players are sleeping. PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS MOMENTUM GO TO SHIT.

There are very few spawns ...outside of the weekly repops. Very few opportunities for pvp ... this can not sustain the 50 v 50 matches that are just waiting to be triggered during an adequate spawn shcedule.

Always crying for something new btw might want to expand your vocab and use more adjectives than "extremely" 4 times in one post

Teams variance pnp simulated patch days what's next on your wish list instances like wow? Lol

Smedy
01-10-2014, 09:37 AM
Whispers of a mysterious dark force only referred to as "the mexican" sweeps through the ranks of red dawn. Talk of days when common men wore fungus tunic are nothing but a ancient memory.

maverixdamighty
01-10-2014, 10:06 AM
Always crying for something new btw might want to expand your vocab and use more adjectives than "extremely" 4 times in one post

Teams variance pnp simulated patch days what's next on your wish list instances like wow? Lol

did you even play live? i'm guessing no...

Rhuobhe
01-10-2014, 10:07 AM
I read the whole thing my car. driving.

Buhbuh
01-10-2014, 10:22 AM
Always crying for something new btw might want to expand your vocab and use more adjectives than "extremely" 4 times in one post

Teams variance pnp simulated patch days what's next on your wish list instances like wow? Lol

Adverbs? Try knowing what you're talking about before talking.

Colgate
01-10-2014, 10:27 AM
filthed definitely has a few extra chromosomes

Nirgon
01-10-2014, 10:51 AM
Teams variance pnp simulated patch days what's next on your wish list instances like wow?

Item loot like EverQuest?

Mac Dretti
01-10-2014, 12:07 PM
I read the whole thing my car. driving.

Lol

runlvlzero
01-10-2014, 02:17 PM
I like simulated patch days, but VVVV still applies.

Edgat
01-10-2014, 02:28 PM
I hate to tell you this but simulated patch days won't change respawn times because some horrible neck beard on blue posted information showing that something like 90% of all live patch days brough servers back up around 3am in the morning during this era of game.

And I'm pretty sure rogean said that most resets will happen at horrible times to simulate classic feel

runlvlzero
01-10-2014, 02:34 PM
I hate to tell you this but simulated patch days won't change respawn times because some horrible neck beard on blue posted information showing that something like 90% of all live patch days brough servers back up around 3am in the morning during this era of game.

And I'm pretty sure rogean said that most resets will happen at horrible times to simulate classic feel

more lewt

Nirgon
01-10-2014, 02:52 PM
Still in favor of simulated patch days, shit's classic

k9quaint
01-10-2014, 04:30 PM
Still in favor of simulated patch days, shit's classic

This^

Jenni D
01-10-2014, 04:35 PM
Chu rulez

Gustoo
01-10-2014, 04:52 PM
Simulated patch days, Good idea. Item loot, good idea. Server is ready to rock.

Nirgon
01-10-2014, 04:59 PM
Simulated patch days, Good idea. Item loot, good idea. +4/-4 level range, good idea. Server is ready to rock.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/thumbs_up_matt_leblanc.gif

HippoNipple
01-10-2014, 05:22 PM
If you fags are crying out for PnP, you wouldn't be able to handle item loot, trust me...

This server would look a lot different if item loot came into play. I'm assuming some fresh blood would roll here but half of Nihilum and Red Dawn would be posting WTT red plat for blue on forums within a week to ensure their pretty pixels were secure on their character in EC tunnel.

Tradesonred
01-10-2014, 06:26 PM
Simulated patch days, Good idea. Item loot, good idea. Server is ready to rock.

Yeah this will get implemented any day now

Nixus
01-10-2014, 07:29 PM
Still in favor of simulated patch days, shit's classic

+1

HippoNipple
01-10-2014, 07:38 PM
Can you put me back on ignore so you don't respond to my posts with garbage. Your response did nothing for me. good day sir,...........

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3484594176/h95378DAC/

Assuming everyone puts you on ignore, self esteem at all time low. I have never ignored anyone.

freez
01-10-2014, 08:37 PM
Overusing words like us,we, everybody, no one, and relevant makes you feel more part of a group, I understand. If I had a nickel for how many times mads like you say you are ignoring me, id be a fucking thousandaire.

wait I thought that was me




its pretty funny youre so singled out and alone u think everyone is on a bandwagon against you.


have you been hated like this all your life? must be why youre so bitter.



lmao

HippoNipple
01-10-2014, 08:47 PM
Overusing words like us,we, everybody, no one, and relevant makes you feel more part of a group, I understand. If I had a nickel for how many times mads like you say you are ignoring me, id be a fucking thousandaire.

I never said I ignored you yet you made it up while having someone else saying they ignore you in your signature. Not sure what the obsession is with others ignoring you but carry on, do what you do.