According to Nihilum logic and why the GM's will change this shortly

[Stasis01]

People who control the zone can force people not to according to Nihi logic.

Necro's can not summon bodies of LNS'd groups.

Clerics can not res allies of LNS'd grps/raids.

Rogues cannot drag bodies of pals.

Caster's can't invis grp mates.

Wizards are unable to port LNS'd grps out from Seb ent for example. (This one will be tricky because camping out was not allowed earlier.)




None of this makes any sense and must be changes for obvious reasons. Once a guild dies or calls LNS it's over, res up/buff up/port out mob is forfeited, good fights all around and it's over.

None of this, we will force you to all take 1 exp hit, basically making people log off (undermining the complete PNP)

[Stasis01]

As they interpret it, you must loot and leave no actions performed - ridiculous scumbags.

How can anyone support these guys still.

[Stasis01]

I agree, things are 100x better already. This is just a major troll that needs to be addressed.

In the PNP it doesn't say that you can prevent the above mentioned things, it's just interpreted that way and GM's haven't gotten around to addressing it.

[chu]

die less imo

[Nizzarr]

die less imo

[Elderan]

As they interpret it, you must loot and leave no actions performed - ridiculous scumbags.

How can anyone support these guys still.

This is not how WE interpret it.

We have confirmed with Sirken this is exactly how it works.

[quido]

prove it

[Elderan]

prove it

I put some scenerios in a petition thread to clarify some of the rules. This is one of them with Sirkens response.

Situation: A rogue zones into seb, runs down to the ledge and kills a shaman soloing. That shaman has a friend come and ress him, the rogue kills the cleric at the entrance before he can get to that shamans corpse. The cleric then comes back into the zone for LNS. The cleric is allowed to loot his corpse at the entrance.
Question: Does this cleric have the right to sooth down to the shaman and ress him?
Our current interpretation: The cleric must loot his corpse, and then leave without buffing, killing or anything else.
Sirken says: You are correct

[Stasis01]

I'm pretty sure Sirken was high and intended that to be a stupid 1v1 situation that means nothing, not produced on a mass scale like you guys are making it out to be.

He'll clarify it, it makes the PNP useless in most scenarios if you can force LNS that rigidly.

[Stasis01]

nvm

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

chewie says die less but never leaves guk to go pvp with the big boys

[Mac Dretti]

die less imo


http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/firetorpedos_zps0c514b98.jpg

[runlvlzero]

he can be spotted sometimes in innothule, s ro and oasis!

[chu]

loot n _____

????

[Bardalicious]

chewie makes special trips to city of mist if it means killing gaffin

[Mac Dretti]

Stick around?

Sulk and pout?

Suit up and bind rush?

Sit down and buff?

Say offensive comments in ooc/tells/shout/say?

Summon other peoples corpses?


Scoot?

[Tune]

I'm pretty sure Sirken was high and intended that to be a stupid 1v1 situation that means nothing, not produced on a mass scale like you guys are making it out to be.

He'll clarify it, it makes the PNP useless in most scenarios if you can force LNS that rigidly.

staff disrespect

and u fail at rule lawyering

[Colgate]

prove it

they won't get it

[Supreme]

Colgate.

Lets play DOTA2.

[Colgate]

okay prob not tonight tho

[Stasis01]

I whooped Chewies ass on my lvl 52 monk he was fucking awful.

No relation to the thread just throwen that out there - guys terribad and doesn't play/compete yet seems to throw his opinion around in every thread.

I mean I hate to toss out RL attacks but if you've been in TS with his GF Soda you kinda get a feeling for what their household is like(filled with stupid).

[Agatha]

I whooped Chewies ass on my lvl 52 monk he was fucking awful.

No relation to the thread just throwen that out there - guys terribad and doesn't play/compete yet seems to throw his opinion around in every thread.

I mean I hate to toss out RL attacks but if you've been in TS with his GF Soda you kinda get a feeling for what their household is like(filled with stupid).

Wow, just wow.

I'd love to know what your household is like.

[maverixdamighty]

Wow, just wow.

I'd love to know what your household is like.

we know what yours is like...

[Agatha]

we know what yours is like...

fun as fuck? No shame here son. I do what I want.

[mikemandella]

fun as fuck? No shame here son. I do what I want.

"Mom!!! The meatloaf! Fuck!"

Dude you live at home... Nothing wrong w that but glass houses...

[chu]

I whooped Chewies ass on my lvl 52 monk he was fucking awful.

No relation to the thread just throwen that out there - guys terribad and doesn't play/compete yet seems to throw his opinion around in every thread.

I mean I hate to toss out RL attacks but if you've been in TS with his GF Soda you kinda get a feeling for what their household is like(filled with stupid).

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did you mean:
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[chu]

wasn't even gonna post screenshot til you said that
its just one of literally dozens of red dawn killshots i've racked up... didn't even feel like an accomplishment tbh

[DrRoach]

I whooped Chewies ass on my lvl 52 monk he was fucking awful.

No relation to the thread just throwen that out there - guys terribad and doesn't play/compete yet seems to throw his opinion around in every thread.

I mean I hate to toss out RL attacks but if you've been in TS with his GF Soda you kinda get a feeling for what their household is like(filled with stupid).

shut your pie hole! dazey is wonderful!

[Tune]

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did you mean:
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/gaanon_zps8c0a52bf.jpg?

stasis u are pathetic

im utterly disgusted at this point

[Sektor]

stasis u are pathetic

im utterly disgusted at this point

pity reply

[Mac Dretti]

Damn 100-0d that RL attacking whiner

[Kergan]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRF9zsP5fEEHlNpmsKtwA6jy1x4hwMun jNUuCu0wK9rUu9vw1L8

[Twainz]

wasn't even gonna post screenshot til you said that
its just one of literally dozens of red dawn killshots i've racked up... didn't even feel like an accomplishment tbh

Please supply twainz kill shots

[Mac Dretti]

"Chewie is it OK if I run through guk? I'm just a wee lad from blue"

[Twainz]

"Chewie is it OK if I run through guk? I'm just a wee lad from blue"

Showing respect for someone's property is not allowed?

[Sektor]

I like chewie but I'm pretty sure I have more kill shots on him then anyone else.

[chu]

talk is cheap nameen :p

[Sektor]

talk is cheap nameen :p

love ya chewie

[maverixdamighty]

chewy plays the game how he wants to, can't hate on him for it.

[Holey]

I like chewie but I'm pretty sure I have more kill shots on him then anyone else.

talks of pvp,
yet cant kill people his level unless afk
like myself LOL

[Twainz]

talks of pvp,
yet cant kill people his level unless afk
like myself LOL

Gream, arent you always afk bowling?

[Sektor]

talks of pvp,
yet cant kill people his level unless afk
like myself LOL

wanna duel me?

[Sektor]

when I get home I'll post my Gream kill shot in ej when 20 nilly zerged 12 of us.

[Mac Dretti]

110 people raiding Gorenair

Calls others zerg

[chu]

110? i think im gonna be sick

[Mac Dretti]

110 people raiding Gorenair

Calls others zerg

Did I say raiding, meant wiping to.

My bad.

[Sektor]

110 people raiding Gorenair

Calls others zerg

Was talking about while in Force. Retti I hope you realize that the guild your in aren't your friends and the day they don't need you they will treat you like dirt. Cash out and join your friends and be apart of some history. You know. I'll always have your back just like I did while in Nilly.

[Mac Dretti]

Mai Internet fwends

[Sektor]

Mai Internet fwends

games more fun being surrounded by players you respect. Red Dawn didn't exist when I joined.

[maverixdamighty]

talks of pvp,
yet cant kill people his level unless afk
like myself LOL

he killed one of your plds in the botb while outleveled/geared, right?

[Kinamara]

another day, another rule lawyering thread..

http://i.imgur.com/Uqm6m7v.png

[Buhbuh]

you just took the time to create that and compared Tune to Jesus


i just thought i'd take a step back for you and point out the time wasting lengths and extremes you just went through

[freez]

itd be worth it if it was funny instead of the first 3 images on google

[Jadian]

There's seriously something wrong with you people. Psychological issues abound.

[Sektor]

you just took the time to create that and compared Tune to Jesus


i just thought i'd take a step back for you and point out the time wasting lengths and extremes you just went through

[Kergan]

Some people take this way too seriously, like spending thousands of real life dollars to buy pixels.

[Something'Witty]

There's seriously something wrong with you people. Psychological issues abound.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5gssmDXP31rvg64zo1_500.gif

[Kraftwerk]

There's seriously something wrong with you people. Psychological issues abound.

Welcome to Red99, you don't have to be completely fucked up to play here but you need at least mild aspbergers.

[Kergan]

Welcome to Red99, you don't have to be completely fucked up to play here but you need at least mild aspbergers.

Being completely fucked up does help though.

[Sektor]

Some people take this way too seriously, like spending thousands of real life dollars to buy pixels.


jimmies rusted

[Kergan]

Naw

[Sektor]

Some people take this way too seriously, like spending thousands of real life dollars to buy pixels.

Also forgot to mention you just insulted a quarter of your build. Not gonna look good on the app.

[Kergan]

Also forgot to mention you just insulted a quarter of your build. Not gonna look good on the app.

Naw

[Not_Kazowi]

Bros, when a guild calls LNS, it is over. That guild is leaving the zone entirely for 1 hour, doesn't mean you need to grief them by making their CR as difficult as possible.

Guild calls LNS, then you let them all run back and rez/summon/drag etc. If you don't want to let them then provide the service for them. PNP was not intended to be abused like this.

[Kergan]

Bros, when a guild calls LNS, it is over. That guild is leaving the zone entirely for 1 hour, doesn't mean you need to grief them by making their CR as difficult as possible.

Guild calls LNS, then you let them all run back and rez/summon/drag etc. If you don't want to let them then provide the service for them. PNP was not intended to be abused like this.

LNS cannot be called, it is a god given right granted by our supreme overlords.

Also didn't realize you wrote the PNP laws so you are the one who gets to decide their intention.

Rules were followed. It's funny how the 2 threads a day posted by RD+Allies about how great the PNP is stopped and instead there are 2 threads a day about how the rules need to be changed. Yet when I made constructive posts about rule changes that would help the PNP fit better for mass PVP I was mocked and ridiculed.

L2PNP

[Not_Kazowi]

LNS cannot be called, it is a god given right granted by our supreme overlords.

Also didn't realize you wrote the PNP laws so you are the one who gets to decide their intention.

Rules were followed. It's funny how the 2 threads a day posted by RD+Allies about how great the PNP is stopped and instead there are 2 threads a day about how the rules need to be changed. Yet when I made constructive posts about rule changes that would help the PNP fit better for mass PVP I was mocked and ridiculed.

L2PNP

I wasn't on the raid so it didn't affect me. But looking at it from an adult point of view I don't see what the point was for you guys to not let people rez guildies so they didnt lose XP from wiping.

Why? What is the point? What are you trying to do? Are you trying to grief people so hard that they quit or do you want them to leave RD and join Nihilum? The whole thing is just so toxic.

[Nizzarr]

I wasn't on the raid so it didn't affect me. But looking at it from an adult point of view I don't see what the point was for you guys to not let people rez guildies so they didnt lose XP from wiping.

Why? What is the point? What are you trying to do? Are you trying to grief people so hard that they quit or do you want them to leave RD and join Nihilum? The whole thing is just so toxic.

shut your mouth and follow the rules

[Kergan]

I wasn't on the raid so it didn't affect me. But looking at it from an adult point of view I don't see what the point was for you guys to not let people rez guildies so they didnt lose XP from wiping.

Why? What is the point? What are you trying to do? Are you trying to grief people so hard that they quit or do you want them to leave RD and join Nihilum? The whole thing is just so toxic.

Why would they lose exp exactly? The only way they'd lose exp is if they sat around for 3 hours doing nothing or looted their geared corpse completely.

Making it difficult is not the same as griefing man. If you want PVP to be followed by high 5s and a round of slapass then go use the arena on blue.

[Mac Dretti]

I wasn't on the raid so it didn't affect me. But looking at it from an adult point of view I don't see what the point was for you guys to not let people rez guildies so they didnt lose XP from wiping.

Why? What is the point? What are you trying to do? Are you trying to grief people so hard that they quit or do you want them to leave RD and join Nihilum? The whole thing is just so toxic.

Everyone that took a pvp death got a free nihilum sponsored max rez to aid in LnS

[Nirgon]

Sirken puts in time to have GM events to encourage population.

Nizzar boycotts them and works his fingers to the bone to get people to leave.

[Not_Kazowi]

just saying bros i was told that yall were not letting people rez and only offering 0% or 50% rezzes etc. pretty sure people logged off because of this and i saw their corpses still there the next day.

[Mac Dretti]

just saying bros i was told that yall were not letting people rez and only offering 0% or 50% rezzes etc. pretty sure people logged off because of this and i saw their corpses still there the next day.

u were misinformed and u ran to the forum to protest on ur behalf of your misinformed beliefs

[Kergan]

just saying bros i was told that yall were not letting people rez and only offering 0% or 50% rezzes etc. pretty sure people logged off because of this and i saw their corpses still there the next day.

This is a 100% completely fabricated lie.

I was doing the rezzes. I was clicking epic.

Fail.