PNP Rules are playing out great.

[lite]

More modifications would be great !

[k9quaint]

More modifications would be great !

I concur.
Population up.
PvP is fun.

[Taboo]

Population is up lately. That's a good thing!

[HippoNipple]

What kept the population down was the constant gank squads running around wiping out exp groups that took a long time to establish or the solo players/duos already bored out of their brains from killing random mobs just to level. The majority of the people that foster the PnP rules are the people that have no interest in the raiding scene (otherwise they would have apped Nihilum a long time ago) and are simply looking for new ways to troll since the 'Wipe it clean' gimick has gone out of fashion and players are uniting against their lone-wolf gank antics as they preyed on solo players or undergeared duos.

Getting rid of the leaderboards was probably the main factor in helping the server population since people that ganked for points (majority of level 60 pvpers) no longer had the incentive to keep doing so.

The PnP does not really do much to foster the server population since half the people that got hit with the ban hammer were not regular griefers. That being said, it will be interesting to see how things pan out. I am absolutely spewing that I missed out on the large scale pvp due to work.

There were about 75 people logged in yesterday that disagree with you.

[k9quaint]

What kept the population down was the constant gank squads running around wiping out exp groups that took a long time to establish or the solo players/duos already bored out of their brains from killing random mobs just to level. The majority of the people that foster the PnP rules are the people that have no interest in the raiding scene (otherwise they would have apped Nihilum a long time ago) and are simply looking for new ways to troll since the 'Wipe it clean' gimick has gone out of fashion and players are uniting against their lone-wolf gank antics as they preyed on solo players or undergeared duos.

Dumbest thing ever spoken on these boards? No, but pretty dumb.
Especially since Red Dawn ganked several dragons recently in addition to many Nihilum at a contested raid spawn.

You can watch video evidence here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134176

[Tradesonred]

Great at makin the server blue

Guess its my fault for not realizing sooner that this is the direction the server would take, big fucking clue should have been when Rogean and Sirken popped out the "Its not CoD"

Still enjoy armchair Dev'ing though

[Stasis01]

What kept the population down was the constant gank squads running around wiping out exp groups that took a long time to establish or the solo players/duos already bored out of their brains from killing random mobs just to level. The majority of the people that foster the PnP rules are the people that have no interest in the raiding scene (otherwise they would have apped Nihilum a long time ago) and are simply looking for new ways to troll since the 'Wipe it clean' gimick has gone out of fashion and players are uniting against their lone-wolf gank antics as they preyed on solo players or undergeared duos.

Getting rid of the leaderboards was probably the main factor in helping the server population since people that ganked for points (majority of level 60 pvpers) no longer had the incentive to keep doing so.

The PnP does not really do much to foster the server population since half the people that got hit with the ban hammer were not regular griefers. That being said, it will be interesting to see how things pan out. I am absolutely spewing that I missed out on the large scale pvp due to work.

Hey bro you ever tried to do Trakanon and Nihilum came and killed you, then CC'd you all night - then Tune plays 16 hrs a day roaming EJ/TT the next few days, shit's so much fun.

Ignorant fuck.

[Holey]

stasis bro, you sound mad.
he killed my alt so many times.
qq cry more.

[Tassador]

Let me add by saying Yao Ming broke his foot and went back to china. Adrian Peterson ran for 2k yards in one season after tearing his acl. What I am trying to say is Pilates.

[heartbrand]

Yao Ming one of saddest stories of the nba , that guy was amazing and unstoppable when healthy, which unfortunately was almost never.

[Stasis01]

stasis bro, you sound mad.
he killed my alt so many times.
qq cry more.

I am saying that raid PVP CCing is 100x worse than single/grp PVP - Drak was right that the leaderboard made people farm EXP groups which is terrible.

But it doesn't even come close to CCing people that logged off for the night in frustration at Trak prep area/Hate/Fear.

And it is a huge burden on the leadership to hold every members hand (when many are casuals) to get their body back.

No mad here, just putting the logic train back on the rails instead of crashing.

[HippoNipple]

I am saying that raid PVP CCing is 100x worse than single/grp PVP - Drak was right that the leaderboard made people farm EXP groups which is terrible.

But it doesn't even come close to CCing people that logged off for the night in frustration at Trak prep area/Hate/Fear.

And it is a huge burden on the leadership to hold every members hand (when many are casuals) to get their body back.

No mad here, just putting the logic train back on the rails instead of crashing.

Yes, corpse retrieval is so boring and the PvP associated with camping people without gear is almost as boring. Good to see that part of PvE/PvP becoming less tedious.

[heartbrand]

PNP working great. If not for the PNP the Kith / DL / Sol B etc., battles probably would have never happened, because each side would fear being CC'ed for the remainder of the day.

[Holey]

shit i walked in like a boss last night after i died, and was like
supp peeeps.

chatted for a few seconds then bounced LOL
no shit talking just a friendly talk :D

[Andis]

exactly, without the rules it would be a cc fest

pras pnp

pras pvp

pras yt

[Kergan]

PNP working great. If not for the PNP the Kith / DL / Sol B etc., battles probably would have never happened, because each side would fear being CC'ed for the remainder of the day.

I think there is definitely some truth to this. Even the duke posted that the excessive stuff should always been covered under the PVP. I think if we could make some modifications to the PNP for mass PVP so that nobody gets griefed but we can focus more on the battle then who is a legitimate target we could have a really good ruleset.

I don't think we're far off either. If we just made it so you're not allowed to LNS while the battle is still going, and if you try then you auto forfeit your LNS and/or are subject to disciplinary action that would do it.

[Nirgon]

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.

If you are going into mass pvp, go in with the expectation that (imagine this) it could take a while.

Really hard problem to solve, let me tell ya.

[Kergan]

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.

If you are going into mass pvp, go in with the expectation that (imagine this) it could take a while.

Really hard problem to solve, let me tell ya.

You have convinced me.

[Nirgon]

You have convinced me.

Welcome to the cleansing, glorious light.

[Mac Dretti]

i tend to agree that pnp allows the fight to end smoothly, i.e. no corpse camping

but letting people "lns" in middle of ongoing battle is dumb

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.

[Andis]

i tend to agree that pnp allows the fight to end smoothly, i.e. no corpse camping

but letting people "lns" in middle of ongoing battle is dumb

yes thats only thing GMs need to figure out

there needs to be a rule about mid pvp lns

[k9quaint]

yes thats only thing GMs need to figure out

there needs to be a rule about mid pvp lns

This would indeed be an improvement.

[Kergan]

Holy shit people agreeing on things?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/34289676.jpg

[Mac Dretti]

retti and andis still cordial

[Andis]

retti and andis still cordial

pras

[Kanzar]

The last few big fights with Nihilum and Red Dawn have been rather civil and a lot of fun was to be had. I even sat with some of the opposite guilds members afterwards and just talked battle stories while we waited for people to clear up and move out. A lot better than being toxic shitheads and camping everyone for multiple hours afterwards

[Nizzarr]

Hey bro you ever tried to do Trakanon and Nihilum came and killed you, then CC'd you all night - then Tune plays 16 hrs a day roaming EJ/TT the next few days, shit's so much fun.

Ignorant fuck.

thats what you get for training in veeshans peak for 2 months, talking shit on forums about it and talking more shit everyday.

It's called karma.

I'd do it again.

[Sektor]

thats what you get for training in veeshans peak for 2 months, talking shit on forums about it and talking more shit everyday.

It's called karma.

I'd do it again.

hi Nizzarr! In mass pvp I like when you call your guild to focus fire me then while I'm kiting 7 melee your guilded die one by one hehehe.

[maverixdamighty]

thats what you get for training in veeshans peak for 2 months, talking shit on forums about it and talking more shit everyday.

It's called karma.

I'd do it again.

we know you would that's why you are banned.

[Stasis01]

thats what you get for training in veeshans peak for 2 months, talking shit on forums about it and talking more shit everyday.

It's called karma.

I'd do it again.

Yes I tried to fuck with you for fucking with others, but in the end you're just griefing everyone anyways.

[Kergan]

Yes I tried to fuck with you for fucking with others, but in the end you're just griefing everyone anyways.

Hey remember that one time you killed me right after being rezzed when I was an untagged level 52?

http://thecripplegate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kettle.jpg

[Stasis01]

If I was so dedicating to being a dick and griefing people would I be pushing for some rules to prevent it?

I don't really grief people, and I'm not really a victim - Nihilum uses me as a scape goat to shit on newer players for an actual benefit, hence the rage.

[Mac Dretti]

stop raging

[heartbrand]

stop raging

stop posting 8) 8) 8) 8)

[runlvlzero]

stop posting 8) 8) 8) 8)

nou

[Kraftwerk]

Wtf kind of anti-jew type shit is that Nizzarr...wtf

Even I think that's too far

[Nirgon]

Classic PnP showing more and more why scum didn't make it very far.

Now we just need classic resists and item loot.

[heartbrand]

Ya that was way out of line and over the top. I trust the staff to do the right thing.

[Nirgon]

If doth hear the sound of a forum account getting banned and the rattling of wheelchair screws.

[Kraftwerk]

Yea I had to draw the line somewhere and PM Sirken on that one. Some things are just not appropriate.

[Kergan]

If I was so dedicating to being a dick and griefing people would I be pushing for some rules to prevent it?

I don't really grief people, and I'm not really a victim - Nihilum uses me as a scape goat to shit on newer players for an actual benefit, hence the rage.

No I am merely pointing out your current anti griefing stance has nothing to do with your actual beliefs (as demonstrated repeatedly by your prior actions) but is merely a tool to further the advancement of the side you're currently on.

Not disagreeing with your strategy at all, just letting you know there are those of us out there who see through your bullshit. :)

[Tune]

the rules suck

no one got griefed be4 we had them

[Colgate]

yeah, no one

[heartbrand]

How can anyone take these people seriously when they're posting pictures of ashtrays and furnaces making holocaust references, while talking the "PNP"?

[Kraftwerk]

It's pretty fucked up, this isn't even RNF it's server chat, and RL attacks on someone based on their religion like that and to that extreme is ugly.

[Kergan]

I don't get the ashtray reference?

[Tune]

wow u guys are running out of things ti cry abiout

[Nizzarr]

ashtrays racists now?

quick, be offended

[heartbrand]

Was a poorly veiled jab about jews and the holocaust.

[Tune]

wow you guys are running out of things to cry about

[Kergan]

An ashtray is a veiled jab at jews regarding the holocaust? Da fuk?

[heartbrand]

wow u guys are running out of things ti cry abiout

Yaw sorry, forgot the massacre of six million plus jews in the holocaust was funny, and that implying those on boards of jewish heritage should also be burned in said fashion is just a "troll." Sounds like responsible and reasonable leadership who we should listen to, and clearly people that respectful dialogue can take place between.

[Nizzarr]

THEY POSTED KITTIES PICTURES AND IM ALERGIC TO KITTIES

That was a wood stove from the early 1900, not the kind I collection though. what do you have against wood stoves?

[Nirgon]

Sounds like a classic PnP is enough material for a long time.

[Nizzarr]

http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/ebay/images/2011/320654794430.jpg

thats a racist wood stove

[heartbrand]

An ashtray is a veiled jab at jews regarding the holocaust? Da fuk?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110508165349AAlmv0M

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp#Corpse_disposal

[Kergan]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/34289676.jpg

[Kraftwerk]

wow you guys are running out of things to cry about

Oh yea you guys are such beacons of honor that your guild leader posts a picture of a furnace in response to a quote by a Jewish player and you have the balls to act like its no big deal.

Nihilum confirmed toxic human beings, forget about the chars they play.

[Kraftwerk]

Nizzarr if it wasn't meant to be ugly and prejudice why did you change your post immediately after I said I PM'd Sirken?

[Nizzarr]

I didnt like the picture so I found a better one.

heartbrand posting an asian guy cleaning a car after gream posted is any better?

[Kergan]

So if I find a tasteless joke about the holocaust and a balloon somewhere on the internet would that make a balloon picture a holocaust reference?

http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mLy5eVOgw-hjN8kRewlfpoA.jpg

[HippoNipple]

This server deserves a better guild leader than Nizzar. His cancerous actions and attitude towards the good people of this server has gone on long enough.

[Colgate]

this is disgusting

i currently have 2 open petitions, one for nizzar and one for tune for supporting him posting these horrible images

[k9quaint]

Nihilum is so toxic to server health that it made the GMs change the rules on Red99. First accounts banned, Nizzar, Jizzar and Tune. GMs dispelled the Nihilum Leadership debuff from R99server, population back to full strength.

[Kraftwerk]

So if I find a tasteless joke about the holocaust and a balloon somewhere on the internet would that make a balloon picture a holocaust reference?

http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mLy5eVOgw-hjN8kRewlfpoA.jpg

This makes zero sense, if Lite had posted a furnace i would be saying the same thing. You people are blind and have no balls to say "Hey that was not necessary."

[Tune]

pretty hilarious

HB has done more disgusting shit than i could ever dream of

same goes for the rest of you trolls

[Nizzarr]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51P4VHNPE3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I still own the stove on the cover of this book, why are you so mad about stoves?

[Kergan]

This makes zero sense, if Lite had posted a furnace i would be saying the same thing. You people are blind and have no balls to say "Hey that was not necessary."

Find me a post of RD being critical of their leadership before you point the finger, or someone in Azrael for that matter.

And I didn't see any furnace pictures just an ashtray which I assumed was a smoking reference. Honestly.

[Kraftwerk]

Find me a post of RD being critical of their leadership before you point the finger, or someone in Azrael for that matter.

And I didn't see any furnace pictures just an ashtray which I assumed was a smoking reference. Honestly.

Because he changed it exactly 1 minute after I said I PM'd Sirken.

I'll let you know right now, I was always skeptical of HB aka RD leadership prior to joining them. I got to know him he seems okay, I think he was a bit lenient with some people regarding hate tells they sent and the whole Relapse v Hateraid fuckfest but it's his decision and better to be cautious than overreact.

There you go, a RD member being critical of leadership.

[Kraftwerk]

Nizzarr you just look a deluded anti-Semite now with your cleanup act. What in the hell did you mean then by posting pictures of ovens and furnaces and ashes to a Jewish player? I'm really curious on this one.

[heartbrand]

Find me a post of RD being critical of their leadership before you point the finger, or someone in Azrael for that matter.

And I didn't see any furnace pictures just an ashtray which I assumed was a smoking reference. Honestly.

http://imageshack.com/a/img801/761/ccsy.jpg

[Colgate]

this isn't the first remark showing nizzar's anti-semitism

fuck you stasis, you rule lawyering easy bake erudite.

easy bake erudite is a roundabout way of saying easy bake ******, aka a racial slur against jewish people

http://www.rsdb.org/slur/easy-bake_******

[Stasis01]

That is kinda fucked up rofl.

[Kraftwerk]

Surprise surprise he's muzzled himself realizing the bigot hole he dug himself into.

[HeisChuck]

damn nizzarr isn't a very good person huh

[AmukTZ]

what an asshole

http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/legacyimages/a/6a00d8341c630a53ef011570183d52970b-pi.jpg

[Kilbur]

I will say the PNp does allow for more pvp.. After we killed rage fire last night we knew pvp was coming.. Instead of porting out trying to avoid being corpse camped as a whole guild, we gave our best shot knowing that afterwards it would be a simple "good fight" and everyone be on their business. So yes Definitely more pvp. LnS during fight is retarded though... Which can also be an easy fix

[Holey]

Ya that was way out of line and over the top. I trust the staff to do the right thing.

bitch stfu you racist fuck. you brought irl into when we went at it.

[Kinamara]

I will say the PNp does allow for more pvp.. After we killed rage fire last night we knew pvp was coming.. Instead of porting out trying to avoid being corpse camped as a whole guild, we gave our best shot knowing that afterwards it would be a simple "good fight" and everyone be on their business. So yes Definitely more pvp. LnS during fight is retarded though... Which can also be an easy fix

Agree with this. LnS during fights is the core of the problem. It's a nerf to res classes which is uncalled for and it's a hell to monitor who's been dead.

[Holey]

http://imageshack.com/a/img801/761/ccsy.jpg

that sjust an oven of making some bread for some wine and cheese. ya feel?

[Labanen]

He isnt antisemitic, he just hates heartbrand... Me too btw, and i dont even mind slathars spew.

[heartbrand]

He isnt antisemitic, he just hates heartbrand... Me too btw, and i dont even mind slathars spew.

Hates heartbrand ========> Was only warrior willing to tank his druid epic mob for him =)

[Kraftwerk]

He isnt antisemitic, he just hates heartbrand... Me too btw, and i dont even mind slathars spew.

So by your logic this makes it okay to post offensive real life related attacks in Server Chat that are offensive to any Jewish players?

[Labanen]

Dont flatter yourself i got acces to 3 tank classes, wouldnt have missed you a sec if you werent there. Besides you ninjaed the fay piece and wouldnt give it up til nizzar bullied you. And that has nothing to do with why i dont like you either.

[runlvlzero]

French Bread Ovens Legit

[heartbrand]

Dont flatter yourself i got acces to 3 tank classes, wouldnt have missed you a sec if you werent there. Besides you ninjaed the fay piece and wouldnt give it up til nizzar bullied you. And that has nothing to do with why i dont like you either.

"ninjaed" the fay piece? are you fucking high? Everyone ported to hate, which we do right after fay, and no one looted the pod leaving it behind. I looted it, immediately said I did as was common for people to loot for MQ since we had killed 77 + faydedar's and everyone had it so no one could loot, and then MQ'ed it to you shortly after for your druid. Holy fuck dude.

[Labanen]

So by your logic this makes it okay to post offensive real life related attacks in Server Chat that are offensive to any Jewish players?

I didnt say that. Nor have i seen such attacks.

[Labanen]

"ninjaed" the fay piece? are you fucking high? Everyone ported to hate, which we do right after fay, and no one looted the pod leaving it behind. I looted it, immediately said I did as was common for people to loot for MQ since we had killed 77 + faydedar's and everyone had it so no one could loot, and then MQ'ed it to you shortly after for your druid. Holy fuck dude.
No

[Kraftwerk]

Post #37 in this thread Nizzarr responded to Heartbrand a Jewish player with a furnace, he then changed it immediately after I said I PM'd Sirken.

Post #73 in this thread, Heartbrand shows the unadulterated post by Nizzarr as he originally posted it before frantically changing it.

There you go, now you've seen it.

[heartbrand]

No

Then you're a liar.

[runlvlzero]

Pretty sure it was a reference to po'boys, from the french quarter

[Tune]

Dont flatter yourself i got acces to 3 tank classes, wouldnt have missed you a sec if you werent there. Besides you ninjaed the fay piece and wouldnt give it up til nizzar bullied you. And that has nothing to do with why i dont like you either.

how much dkp are u charging RD for ninjaed raid loot?

[Kinamara]

and here is why the PnP does not work:

http://i.imgur.com/qfQrPER.png

Please fix it with game mechanics instead.

[freez]

how much dkp are u charging RD for ninjaed raid loot?

yeh u don't sound delirious at all




ive seen plenty of loot drop



loot isn't a strong point to argue here.


loot is very well distributed.

[Labanen]

Then you're a liar.no, and you have worse memory than ethics.

[chu]

and here is why the PnP does not work:

http://i.imgur.com/qfQrPER.png

Please fix it with game mechanics instead.

haha rellapse should probably re-roll after this one
"kill me dare you"
scrub talk at its finest

[freez]

no, and you have worse memory than ethics.

same lananen that didn't believe derubael when a public forum post showed derubael telling me Agatha/push took 55k and a tcrown out of my bank?




sounds legit

[Rellapse36]

Guess it worked they didn't kill me again and I continued watching TV


Pras PnP

[Technique]

Guess it worked they didn't kill me again and I continued watching TV
Pras PnPAmusing that the PNP enables blue rejects like this guy to play on red as if it were no different.

[Rellapse36]

Amusing that me coming from blue rustles your jimmies.

[Labanen]

same lananen that didn't believe derubael when a public forum post showed derubael telling me Agatha/push took 55k and a tcrown out of my bank?




sounds legit

Here is the conversation... damn you, had to go look to see what i might ve said.
----------------------
Labanen :
Only 'evidence' i see is the claims from someone who very clearly hates agatha/jupe for switching sides. Ill wait a sec with condemning agatha.

If the story is true though, then pres derubael!

iiNGloriouS:
It was confirmed by Derubael, there was a thread on it and a twitch.tv highlight with a 100% confirmed confirmation.

Labanen :
link ?

iiNGloriouS: (Chipp i think)
its around here somewhere, don't care enough to see if the topic got removed or not, which it probably did.


freez :
thread poofed when forums got changed back to normal. when i find the link i will personally send it to you ruban.

-----------------------------link for curious minds-----------
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130226&page=6
--------------------------------------------------------------


I am fine with believing GMs there isnt one of the current ones i dont trust, But there wasnt a GM post to see... he might have checked it.. in that case to quote myself "Pras Derubael". You still promised to send it btw ;-)

[Gongshow]

http://i.imgur.com/qfQrPER.png


Cameo :)

[lite]

Damn, Nizzar changed that post really quick... Everyone Repost the original. That was taking it way tooo far.

http://imageshack.com/a/img801/761/ccsy.jpg


I didnt like the picture so I found a better one.

[Labanen]

Holocaust is one of the worst things to happen in recent human history. However, you do know the germans used gas, not fire, to kill them right ?

[freez]

Here is the conversation... damn you, had to go look to see what i might ve said.
----------------------
Labanen :
Only 'evidence' i see is the claims from someone who very clearly hates agatha/jupe for switching sides. Ill wait a sec with condemning agatha.

If the story is true though, then pres derubael!

iiNGloriouS:
It was confirmed by Derubael, there was a thread on it and a twitch.tv highlight with a 100% confirmed confirmation.

Labanen :
link ?

iiNGloriouS: (Chipp i think)
its around here somewhere, don't care enough to see if the topic got removed or not, which it probably did.


freez :
thread poofed when forums got changed back to normal. when i find the link i will personally send it to you ruban.

-----------------------------link for curious minds-----------
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130226&page=6
--------------------------------------------------------------


I am fine with believing GMs there isnt one of the current ones i dont trust, But there wasnt a GM post to see... he might have checked it.. in that case to quote myself "Pras Derubael". You still promised to send it btw ;-)



then they borked the forums for like 2 days and all the current threads of those 2 days were deleted including the one im talking about.


lite still says he has it. ill get it from him.

[Kraftwerk]

Holocaust is one of the worst things to happen in recent human history. However, you do know the germans used gas, not fire, to kill them right ?

And you do know that a furnace is synomous with the Jewish holocaust due to their having been used to dispose of bodies after the genocide?

Stop acting obtuse.

[HippoNipple]

Holocaust is one of the worst things to happen in recent human history. However, you do know the germans used gas, not fire, to kill them right ?

They are commenting on the disgusting behavior of your leader not his intelligence or knowledge of world history.

[Labanen]

i love your signatures, i do think the previous one was the best yet.

[runlvlzero]

It's cold, stay warm.

[Nirgon]

This thread needs a big gold star sticker and to be put up on the fridge.

[freez]

ruban I sent you the screenshots


confirmed thiefs

[k9quaint]

Nihilum leadership again showing why GMs and Devs enacted the PNP policy on red99.
Nizzar is toxic, mean spirited, has poor impulse control, and is bad for the server.

[Labanen]

No i am well aware of those, i dont disagree they were also bad.

[heartbrand]

Ruban all around bad dude and one of most toxic players on box.

[Nizzarr]

wow LOL

[Nizzarr]

Ruban all around bad dude and one of most toxic players on box.

Time for some therapy

[Eslade]

Time for some therapy

Physical Therapy?
http://www.jroseintegrativetherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/PT.jpg

[HeisChuck]

ruban toxic as fuk

[Bronkus]

I agree with Lite. PnP tonight has played out great. Let's keep it!!!