easy fix for bindrushing/pnp

[chu]

ADD BACK EXP LOSS FOR PVP DEATH
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

maybe a little more severe this time around

[Bamz4l]

make self inflicted HT deaths count as pvp xp loss (non rezzable), then sure

[k9quaint]

They already fixed bind rushing. Do it and you get suspended.
Simple. Don't do it.

[Mac Dretti]

They already fixed bind rushing. Do it and you get suspended.
Simple. Don't do it.

Says dango the bind rusher

I wish you Played in the old days of the wild west and got caught afk at bind. You lack chest hairs.

[k9quaint]

Says dango the bind rusher

I wish you Played in the old days of the wild west and got caught afk at bind. You lack chest hairs.

Nope. I wish I had a lvl 60 enchanter. Continue to fail.
Nihilum down to 92% of dragons and falling fast.

[chu]

They already fixed bind rushing. Do it and you get suspended.
Simple. Don't do it.

since fucking when
saw 12 red dawn bindrush guk for a good chunk of the weekend
none are suspended, and why should they be?
how bout the 8 names that were listed on the official known bind-rusher list?
no action against any of them, and really... why should there be?
imo players should die as much as they want, and then some
just give it a lil STING

[Mac Dretti]

k9quaint is a PnP violater. He plays selo's for his 6 man group while he takes 20 minutes to "loot and scoot" then cries violater and plays petition quest

disregard everything he says, treat him like the pmsing female he is and just ignore completely

[runlvlzero]

ADD BACK EXP LOSS FOR PVP DEATH
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

maybe a little more severe this time around

half a level at least

[Kergan]

half a level at least

Haha can you imagine that?

[Kinamara]

/signed OP

Only negative effect it has is that it can keep underdog guilds from participating, if their xp groups are getting killed often. Penalty for death is good, but it shouldn't be so harsh that people don't want to join the fun, it should just be enough to keep people from bindrushing / running in and sit naked next to mass pvp and do nothing while claiming LNS.

[SamwiseRed]

Easy fix would be perma death.

[mcappy]

/signed OP

Only negative effect it has is that it can keep underdog guilds from participating, if their xp groups are getting killed often. Penalty for death is good, but it shouldn't be so harsh that people don't want to join the fun, it should just be enough to keep people from bindrushing / running in and sit naked next to mass pvp and do nothing while claiming LNS.

SZ had 50% exp loss on pvp death, restored with rezzes. It worked pretty for the most part - bind rushing was rarely an issue.

Bind camping was an issue until Luclin, but it wasn't against the rules there like it is on R99. I think here it'd be easy enough for GMs to rez the victim and ban the offender if someone gets bind or corpse camped.

[Technique]

SZ had 50% exp loss on pvp death, restored with rezzes. It worked pretty for the most part - bind rushing was rarely an issue.

Bind camping was an issue until Luclin, but it wasn't against the rules there like it is on R99. I think here it'd be easy enough for GMs to rez the victim and ban the offender if someone gets bind or corpse camped.Funny that a server under Sony's administration, with their primary responsibility being the acquisition and retention of paying customers, was still more "hardcore" than R99.

[SamwiseRed]

SZ was a hardcore server tho. I wish we had a SZ emu :(

[HippoNipple]

SZ had 50% exp loss on pvp death, restored with rezzes. It worked pretty for the most part - bind rushing was rarely an issue.

Bind camping was an issue until Luclin, but it wasn't against the rules there like it is on R99. I think here it'd be easy enough for GMs to rez the victim and ban the offender if someone gets bind or corpse camped.

Hurting people killed within a certain amount of time of their last pvp death is a good thought. It would be a shame if someone is legitimately killed in two different zones in situations that were not connected but every system cannot be perfect.

Giving someone a full exp loss for a pvp death within 1 hour of their last pvp death would be interesting. I would say just forget the rez portion of it.

It would get rid of people fishing for a death while on a corpse run as well. If someone was legit killed while on a corpse run the griefer could then be punished by a suspension but hopefully the exp loss would deter those from attempting to get killed just to rat others out. Maybe this would cut down on the work load while still enforcing the current rules.

[mcappy]

Funny that a server under Sony's administration, with their primary responsibility being the acquisition and retention of paying customers, was still more "hardcore" than R99.

To be fair, SZ went a long ways towards drawing the scum of the internet away from the other servers. I think SOE's primary purpose was to herd all the assholes into one spot so they could ignore them.

[Mac Dretti]

To be fair, SZ went a long ways towards drawing the scum of the internet away from the other servers. I think SOE's primary purpose was to herd all the assholes into one spot so they could ignore them.

Sounds about right

[Kergan]

Nah they made SZ to prebuild a legends server playerbase before it was launched. They made bank overcharging good/neutral SZ players to go to Legends and get keyed/geared.

[Nizzarr]

Bring back full exp death.

[meatspin]

pvp exp death will item lewt please

[Tradesonred]

For all my bitching about xp loss in pvp, i think some form of xp loss, probably around 5-10% of original xp loss, would be much better than this PnP nonsense. But i think PnP should just be ditched no ifs and buts. Just thought original xp loss was dumb because i like to think people played red to pvp. To me pumping death penalty to the point where youre forced to spend most of your time PVEing misses the point of what EQ pvp was all about, the fun fights.

Xp loss still bad overall because its a deterrent to guerilla PVE content contesting, which is how Nihilum got to farm server uncontested for a year+

[HippoNipple]

For all my bitching about xp loss in pvp, i think some form of xp loss, probably around 10% of original xp loss, would be much better than this PnP nonsense. But i think PnP should just be ditched no ifs and buts.

It would most likely deter those from meaningless bind rushing in pvp but wouldn't change mass pvp for the better.

[Mac Dretti]

Btw everyone in history of box that was corpse camped with xp loss on still plays.

[Technique]

It would most likely deter those from meaningless bind rushing in pvp but wouldn't change mass pvp for the better.So despite the fact that unpoliced bind-rushing is a problem in mass pvp, deterring it wouldn't improve mass pvp, huh.

:rolleyes:

[Slathar]

Btw everyone in history of box that was corpse camped with xp loss on still plays.

Who does Citychamp play? We brought him from 50 to 42.

And Bruuce? 50 to 44. Who does he play?

[Slathar]

I fully support exp loss on PVP death.

[Tradesonred]

Who does Citychamp play? We brought him from 50 to 42.

And Bruuce? 50 to 44. Who does he play?

When you got someone like him cheering for PnP alarm bells should ring

[Slathar]

When you got someone like him cheering for PnP alarm bells should ring

I am a supporter of community. I've never done anything to harm the server.

[Rollbackprices]

I am a supporter of community. I've never done anything to harm the server.

http://i.imgur.com/rTnhqI4.png

[vouss]

Slathar's in game character is Gustoo, the cleric that runs around rez'ing people on his spare time?

[runlvlzero]

Slathar's in game character is Gustoo, the cleric that runs around rez'ing people on his spare time?

nope, but he's not the worst player on the box either

[Gustoo]

Slathar is not Gustoo :(

[Slathar]

http://i.imgur.com/rTnhqI4.png

I can make fake logs on EZ server, too.

[Clark]

Says dango the bind rusher

I wish you Played in the old days of the wild west and got caught afk at bind. You lack chest hairs.

lol

[Clark]

http://i.imgur.com/rTnhqI4.png

haha