View Full Version : Stasis rule lawyering, bending rules to his advantage
Nizzarr
01-05-2014, 01:05 PM
context:
Stasis dies 1v1 to a 55 warrior(lol) in karnor's castle.
Cleric shows up to rez him, we tell him no and kill him.
cleric comes back, loot up and head toward stasis corpses. starts casting rez and we kill cleric again.
Then stasis blow up a storm on ooc:
[PvP] Stasis <Red Dawn> has been defeated by Bosshog <Nihilum> in Karnor's Castle!
Stasis says out of character, 'They are CCing me currently in KC - just don't get the point'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're rule lawyering'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're allowing a cleric LNS but not letting him res a grp mate, sounds like corpse camping'
Stasis says out of character, 'This is why bans are going to happen'
Stasis says out of character, 'So you're denying Basiah from Resing me in KC as a cleric cannot help his grp LNS?'
Stasis says out of character, 'Basiah tryen to help his KC grp CR why you stopping him'
Stasis says out of character, 'We let people drag in Solb yeah' (Funny, this didnt happen)
lol @ this red dawn guy quote:
Yomama says out of character, 'their ruleset will change anytime they can find a way to take advantage of it'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're pushing buttons on purpose, don't cry when it leads to suspensions'
Stasis says out of character, 'maybe a guild suspension is what's necessary'
Stasis says out of character, 'They are CCing me currently in KC - just don't get the point'
Stasis says out of character, 'My grp cleric cannot res'
Stasis says out of character, 'because resing is not allowed apparently'
Stasis says out of character, 'which is CCing me'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're rule lawyering, and that's why your guilds eating suspensions'
Alright im sure everybody gets the point -- how about we ban this PNP abuser? he petitioned us while hes clearly wrong. This guy is threatening us with suspensions and bans for not letting his cleric rez him.
Is spamming everybody with BANS BANS BANS in ooc and scaring them enough to break the PNP rules ok?
Ah, the smell of panic in the morning..
maverixdamighty
01-05-2014, 01:10 PM
context:
Stasis dies 1v1 to a 55 warrior(lol) in karnor's castle.
Cleric shows up to rez him, we tell him no and kill him.
cleric comes back, loot up and head toward stasis corpses. starts casting rez and we kill cleric again.
Then stasis blow up a storm on ooc:
[PvP] Stasis <Red Dawn> has been defeated by Bosshog <Nihilum> in Karnor's Castle!
Stasis says out of character, 'They are CCing me currently in KC - just don't get the point'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're rule lawyering'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're allowing a cleric LNS but not letting him res a grp mate, sounds like corpse camping'
Stasis says out of character, 'This is why bans are going to happen'
Stasis says out of character, 'So you're denying Basiah from Resing me in KC as a cleric cannot help his grp LNS?'
Stasis says out of character, 'Basiah tryen to help his KC grp CR why you stopping him'
Stasis says out of character, 'We let people drag in Solb yeah' (Funny, this didnt happen)
lol @ this red dawn guy quote:
Yomama says out of character, 'their ruleset will change anytime they can find a way to take advantage of it'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're pushing buttons on purpose, don't cry when it leads to suspensions'
Stasis says out of character, 'maybe a guild suspension is what's necessary'
Stasis says out of character, 'They are CCing me currently in KC - just don't get the point'
Stasis says out of character, 'My grp cleric cannot res'
Stasis says out of character, 'because resing is not allowed apparently'
Stasis says out of character, 'which is CCing me'
Stasis says out of character, 'You're rule lawyering, and that's why your guilds eating suspensions'
Alright im sure everybody gets the point -- how about we ban this PNP abuser? he petitioned us while hes clearly wrong. This guy is threatening us with suspensions and bans for not letting his cleric rez him.
Is spamming everybody with BANS BANS BANS in ooc and scaring them enough to break the PNP rules ok?
aren't you banned already? STFU.
heartbrand
01-05-2014, 01:14 PM
This would never happen if everyone would take the red dawn pledge. We allow everyone who agrees to cease the pvp engagement for the hour duration to take as long as needed with whoever needed to help them CR, as long as they aren't planning on having friends continue to fight or what not. It's common sense and a respectful and friendly way to play. I encourage you nizzar to take the pledge.
Xantille
01-05-2014, 01:19 PM
amount of nizzar posts is directly proportional to rustled jimmies
Giovanni
01-05-2014, 01:20 PM
Read your story and it sounds like you are corpse camping a lone melee with your guild in Karnor's. I find your story despicable because you are supposed to be a guild leader setting a moral example for the rest of your guild. Is this the play style Nihilum promotes? How many of your characters are suspended right now?
On VZTZ, the victor would have sent him a /tell saying GG and throw him a res. Hell, probably would have given him some food and water too and chatted it up while res effects wore off.
Since Nihilum lost the legitimate PVP fights over dragon pixels this week, I guess their guild has resorted to camping Karnor's for Nizzar Bucks.
Poor Ezpk is probably asking "that one too Duke?" while you delete Cobalt Guantlets off the Drolvarg Captain right in front of him.
Rent is due on the 5th.
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/rent-due-date-calendar-page-15466341.jpg
Swish
01-05-2014, 01:35 PM
You guys need this (http://thenicestplaceontheinter.net/)
Andis
01-05-2014, 01:52 PM
amount of nizzar posts is directly proportional to rustled jimmies
Danien
01-05-2014, 01:54 PM
How absolutely retarded do you have to be to think this paints you in a good light? I don't even know what the official ruling would be on this particular matter, but regardless of what it would be the gm's have stated over and over again that agreements between all involved parties supersede their rulings.
Here you could just be a normal decent guy and let him get his stuff and get out, or you could grief just to be a fucking asshat. You pretty much want GM's to define the maximum amount of grief allowed in every scenario so you can apply it.
How about you just stop being a gigantic douchebag.
runlvlzero
01-05-2014, 01:55 PM
motherfuckin /pras to nizzar for putting his balls on the line to bring these Red Dawn shenannigains to the light.
This is fucking sad stasis =/ I am disappoint. Loot and fucking scoot, don't beg for rez in. Run your lazy ass and get your gear. You pussy.
miraclegrow2
01-05-2014, 01:56 PM
stasis is a epic crybaby yes, but why cant you just let him get rez so he can leave
I mean, do you WANT to start drama nizzar, does your life suck that bad that you are SO DESPERATE to have something to post on the forum about?
vouss
01-05-2014, 02:00 PM
yikes nihilum lose 1 dragon fair and square now I have to tread through an ocean of tears on the forums
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Technical difficulties sec SS's soon.
Pudge
01-05-2014, 02:22 PM
All the these cry posts about the pnp actually made me log in yesterday for the first time in like a month, enter the RD teamspeak info, and run around looking for nillies I could LNS. Then we went to sky and did some shit.
These cry posts are only fueling the fire, Nizzar.
Snufz
01-05-2014, 02:32 PM
Fact remains pop got to 185 yesterday on a non repop day.
Server Thriving All praise PnP.
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 02:34 PM
I have great SS's of this situation but my limited knowledge of computer technology renders me useless when Tinypic is down, I'm trying to find another one to use since Imgur turns all my pictures to shit for some reason. I should have paid attention in school.
Obwin
01-05-2014, 02:55 PM
Fact remains pop got to 185 yesterday on a non repop day.
Server Thriving All praise PnP.
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 02:58 PM
Test
http://i43.tinypic.com/2e37r6b.jpg
miraclegrow2
01-05-2014, 03:01 PM
stop being a baby
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 03:03 PM
Ah fuck it next one didn't upload, Nizzar spamming that it's LNS not LNSASSFASDFASF and clerics can't res grp mates, Kergan saying they are making a statement by corpse camping.
Buncha fun stuff - PS I didn't even petition this Nizzar.
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 03:04 PM
So basically they were shouting at me that I must take a port and walk back bitch, and I was shit talked by basically a crew of raging Nihi during this saying I am trying to trap them, when all I wanted was a res from my guildy cleric who also died PVP.
miraclegrow2
01-05-2014, 03:30 PM
shut up you crybaby
Technique
01-05-2014, 03:57 PM
So basically they were shouting at me that I must take a port and walk back bitch, and I was shit talked by basically a crew of raging Nihi during this saying I am trying to trap them, when all I wanted was a res from my guildy cleric who also died PVP.Sounds like you're reaping what you've sewn.
Dictate how enemies are to interact with one another in specific situations and they'll invariably diverge from that imposed behavior in situations not governed by those rules.
Stasis01
01-05-2014, 04:10 PM
I don't care personally, didn't even petition - it was just Nizzar being a dick like usual, nothing new.
Obwin
01-05-2014, 04:12 PM
Sounds like you're reaping what you've sewn.
Actually all of us "newbs" are reaping what was sewn. Much respect to all the vets on the box that left nihilum or came back to make the box fun again. Ive had a char here for over a year but found it hard as hell to stay motivated to play. Box is fun as hell right now and lots of new blood to level with. Shame on everyone who can't see these changes to pnp (and HB lead resurgence) isn't making the box a better place. Even convinced my rl bro to start up this week. Not letting someone rez up and lns is stupid as shit. Sorry that the result is you have to share your sandbox and aren't the only game in town anymore. Obviously hurting the rmt / dkp exchange for RL "favors" market. Actually had some pretty positive experiences with lots of nihilum in game and don't really see many of them on forums defending these nonsense anti population posts. Only toxic players are whining about pnp.
P.s pop 199 as I write this.
For the record I think lns should have to be called but either way it's a huge improvement over stagnant box of yesteryear.
Technique
01-05-2014, 04:30 PM
Actually all of us "newbs" are reaping what was sewn.I was directing that only at stasis. He has a history with Nihilum. He's delusional if he expects (or believes he deserves) any unforced favors from them.
Obwin
01-05-2014, 04:57 PM
As someone who doesn't know the history of every player going back to the start of the server I must say that anyone that left nihilum to try to spice things up a bit get my respect (not that anyone cares). Whether right or wrong toxic or not the result has been a huge influx of people excited about playing here (myself included) As an outsider looking in I see a lot of crying from people that have a vested interest in keeping the status quo aka a shit box that no one plays. I think it could be a lot of fun if people just relax a little bit and try to enjoy themselves. These changes are for the better and even established vets have a lot to gain from getting more people interested in playing here. At the very least it's more people to kill and multiple factions to keep things interesting. I just didn't see this server as a very fun place when one team rules everything. I bet there are a lot of people in nihilum that see this and are looking forward to being able to do something besides log into dead box and raid for x hours and log off again .
Bazia
01-05-2014, 05:11 PM
Nihilum nice folk, I quit after a couple days though because it was boring with how functional and how well everyone got along.
Mac Dretti
01-05-2014, 06:11 PM
Lol stasis died to bosshawg
AmukTZ
01-05-2014, 06:51 PM
Nizzar got man crush on Stasis. .
k9quaint
01-05-2014, 10:32 PM
I would never thought I would see eye to eye with runlvlzero after the heated item loot debate, but this post is 100% truth.
Good to see sensible input from the general community.
What guild will you join after Nihilum is disbanded for repeated LNS violations?
Clark
01-06-2014, 12:04 AM
aren't you banned already? STFU.
lol
Mac Dretti
01-06-2014, 12:07 AM
What guild will you join after Nihilum is disbanded for repeated LNS violations?
May I ask what ur in game name is?
we had the same problems in seb with a geared necro (Killing) trying to summon naked people... we made him loot and scoot but we got bored and left when he didnt cuz he was bind rushing from the outside
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