Since pvp ressing is no longer allowed..

[Kinamara]

Class balance is tipping and should be adjusted. Clerics and paladins should somehow receive a buff for losing this KEY ABILITY during pvp. Cleric epic just got nerfed to shit by LNS rules.

[Lime]

Pro tip: Heal group members before they die. Zeglings crying about not being able to zerg.

[Kinamara]

thanks for the pro tip. It was a waste of linespace, as it had nothing to do with the topic.

Ressing in your dead teammates was a part of classic everquest pvp if your enemy wasn't paying attention to the clerics or paladins, which has now been removed by the newly implemented LNS policy.

It is effectively a huge non-classic nerf to these two classes and the cleric epic, therefore something else should be buffed to adjust for it class balance wise in pvp.

Further, it will be a hell to monitor it. If that is the intention, I propose to completely remove the ressurection timer from pvp corpses to avoid having people petitioned for ressing in people to fight again in pvp, and so that the rules are identical for the people who petition everyone and their mother, and those who do not.

[Lime]

Clerics and paladins are fine you are just bad.

[chu]

whats the penalty?
seen selena (heartbrand, leader of Red Dawn, bringer of shit rules) rezzing freshly yt'd players so they can jump right back in on zerg vs me combat plenty of times since the PNP was put into place

[Swish]

whats the penalty?
seen selena (heartbrand, leader of Red Dawn, bringer of shit rules) rezzing freshly yt'd players so they can jump right back in on zerg vs me combat plenty of times since the PNP was put into place

Fraps?

[runlvlzero]

I'm ALMOST 49... who needs a stalwart frothing forumquesting pixel steeling raging crazy cleric to REZ people in PVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE encounters?

[Rellapse36]

can we go a day without 20 nilly threads plz?

[Zereh]

Welcome to Pink99.

[Kinamara]

Let's all just roll monks and not use mend at pvp fights, so that it doesn't last long and there's no re-organization part of the fight after people start dying.

Clerics' ability to do anything but heal was already hit pretty hard with stuns, blinds and roots rendered useless by the resist update (which I by the way do not mind at all, because it's the same for everyone, but policy changes that are not implemented by game mechanics NEED TO STOP).

[heartbrand]

Stuns rendered useless? U dum? Stuns land all the fucking time.

[Kinamara]

please don't derail the thread. It's quite relevant that this LNS policy is screwing with the class balance, and it needs to be addressed.

[Kraftwerk]

But wasnt ur thread topic that clerics r the worst without battle Rez? Now people showing u how thats wrong. Relevant, l2forumquest.

[heartbrand]

On live cleric nukes almost never landed. Here they can't be resisted. Wouldn't u call dat pvp balance?

[runlvlzero]

On live cleric nukes almost never landed. Here they can't be resisted. Wouldn't u call dat pvp balance?

they get partialed on the reg

[heartbrand]

Partial doesn't equal resist

[Kinamara]

The topic is that class balance needs to be addressed since clerics and paladins are getting nerfed in pvp by the PNP. It is NOT a classic pvp rule and it should be compensated by other mechanics.

It's clearly a pvp nerf compared to current stage and classic, and as-is these two classes are in no way overpowered. A key component of the classes are being taken away in pvp by the PNP in its current form.

The topic is not whether stuns or nukes land or used to land, but regarding your cleric nuke comment, i played cleric on TZ during classic and I had no problems landing nukes.

In order to compensate for the class nerfs in pvp, I could propose that:

Monks are not allowed to mend in pvp.
Warriors are not allowed to disc.
Wizards are not allowed to use their epic.
Necros are not allowed to use corpse summon or trucidation.
Mages are not allowed to ...well they suck so doesnt matter
SKs are not allowed to HT.
Rangers cant use their bow.
Bards cant use selo speed
ETC.

[Kraftwerk]

You sound like a big crybaby tbh

[Kinamara]

It sounds like all players from red dawn in this thread are trying to derail the OP, because they prefer rules where subjective GM judgements matter more than game mechanics.

[Bazia]

are you high?

clerics are amazing

[Snufz]

The topic is that class balance needs to be addressed since clerics and paladins are getting nerfed in pvp by the PNP. It is NOT a classic pvp rule and it should be compensated by other mechanics.

It's clearly a pvp nerf compared to current stage and classic, and as-is these two classes are in no way overpowered. A key component of the classes are being taken away in pvp by the PNP in its current form.

The topic is not whether stuns or nukes land or used to land, but regarding your cleric nuke comment, i played cleric on TZ during classic and I had no problems landing nukes.

In order to compensate for the class nerfs in pvp, I could propose that:

Monks are not allowed to mend in pvp.
Warriors are not allowed to disc.
Wizards are not allowed to use their epic.
Necros are not allowed to use corpse summon or trucidation.
Mages are not allowed to ...well they suck so doesnt matter
SKs are not allowed to HT.
Rangers cant use their bow.
Bards cant use selo speed
ETC.

Since PnP has been implemented it has rained or snowed where I live.

These are obviously related so i demand that PnP be removed so the sun will shine once again.

[Tradesonred]

This community has one of the biggest ratio of dum dums ive seen in a MMO, maybe the biggest.

It is obviously ridicly terribad to not let clerics rez

But because hes in Nihilum, Jimmies rustled, didnt read, etc

[Obwin]

People obviously very rustled more than 60 dkp crazed rmt neckbeards can enjoy the box now.

[Bazia]

Box was always enjoyable, everquest is a great game

[Colgate]

some people make me cringe real hard irl when i read what they write

kinamara def one of them

[Fame]

Shits classic

[hagard]

some people make me cringe real hard irl when i read what they write

kinamara def one of them

engrish so hard

[Tune]

lets just ban the person killing the rule breakers that rez in

[Snufz]

Everyone in your guild that died in DL was fully rezzed and buffed while under the protection of LNS, then joined the fight in BW/DL.

[Tune]

under the current rules u are allowed to run back, loot and fight in bw

[Tune]

i had a corpse in kc the other day , as soon as i looted and zoned out novus was all over me

[Snufz]

under the current rules u are allowed to run back, loot and fight in bw

Fought and died in DL, rezzed up under LNS protection, Fought in BW, get low hp, zone back over to DL where cleric BPs waiting, get healed to full still under LNS protection, then zone back over to BW.

Sounds legit.

[Mac Dretti]

I would never cast a 20 sec bp during mass pvp

[Snufz]

Dont think anyone should be banned for this by any means, but LNS needs to be all connecting zones to the one died in, easy fix.

[Tune]

yea people gettin banned

[Snufz]

I would never cast a 20 sec bp during mass pvp

U didn't read Retti, DL turned into a safe zone for people who died in it, so they fought in BW, and would zone back to DL to get fully healed while safe, then zone back to BW to fight again.

[Feniggles]

casting any spell besides gate while on lns should be illegal

[Mac Dretti]

That's just the clusterfck of confusion this causes. You have to guess who's on LnS and which zone a person is and isn't allowed to zone into.

That's why you saw the fights split in half bcus some were allowed in DL but not BW and vice versa.

LnS Should Be REQUESTED if the person wants to move on with their day but they shouldn't be forced to LnS in a big guild war if they want to continue fighting.

It should be player/guild leader choice. Not forced.

I saw some dirty pnp violations on az/RD side also whether intentional or chaos of battle. It happens.

Regardless good fight amd I look forward 2 more.

[Silent]

Even the GM video taken by whoever Ambrotos/Nilbog shows Dacuk and others being rezzed mid pvp fight. Or maybe their healers are so bad, they are just casting what looks like a heal on a dead corpse.

[Rec]

make it so anyone can res anyone with a medical syringe/defribulator instantly like in fps games.

[Kergan]

Dont think anyone should be banned for this by any means, but LNS needs to be all connecting zones to the one died in, easy fix.

Hope you don't die in TD then, or you're losing access to almost every city, Oasis, BB and OT. That would kinda suck.

[Gustoo]

I think most people are still mad about having to waste a hot key on sense heading.

Hey I don't play anymore because me and Bristlebane been playing a lot of bocce ball and stuff, why did someone decide to make a lot more rules for our broked server?

[HippoNipple]

I think most people are still mad about having to waste a hot key on sense heading.

Hey I don't play anymore because me and Bristlebane been playing a lot of bocce ball and stuff, why did someone decide to make a lot more rules for our broked server?

Trying to cut down on bind rushing in mass pvp to declare victor easier. Stops guilds from charging each other for hours on end until one side gets bored and quits.