Pras Ambrotos

[Nizzarr]

Here's an Ambrotos quote thats from the raid discussion they are having on the blue server.

Some of these things have no context for red but theres some gems in there that really applies to red

From day one I said the staff shouldn't have interjected any view point. The player base themselves on this server should determine what they want, in respects to what Rogean+Nilbog wants the vision of the server to be. They should all work it out and come to the best of terms, and if there is a small minority that don't agree with the terms then it isn't for them.

The largest player base shouldn't have to cater to the smaller. Yet they should incorporate some concessions in the process for a better server in the long run. Both raid styles can happen on this server. I've seen both sides of the raiding landscape on here and live. They both have their advantages and disadvantages yet can be both equally fun.

EQlive was different than here. Some had rotations, some didn't. Some had GMs who would ban entire guilds, some didn't. Some servers had no consequences for training other guilds, others were hammered hard. To push one view point of 20 + different server on to this one shouldn't be the goal. The goal would be to focus on how both play styles can work according to what Rogean+Nilbog (not Sirken, Ambrotos, Zade, or Derubael) vision of the server.

I just don't see how any guild, GM or guide can dictate any guild to adapt to a play style they don't want to. Focus on that, figure how the two different sides can adapt it to this problem. Limiting NPCs to one tier or another and forced into the other side's play style is the second biggest issue.

Hope I made some sense. Who knows, I just know both sides can work it out without some key players from each guild being involved along with the CSR staff. Get the right people involved, and go from there.

Good luck to you all.

Imo, ambrotos should have made the PNP rules here.

[Vile]

use of pras officially no longer cool guys :(

[Instagib]

Quit crying you fucking no life. You've had two years on here of uncontested pve content not to mention your RMT operation.

[Stasis01]

I guess this was directed to blue where it's a successful high populated server with a fun atmosphere?

I definitely think the GM'S/Devs should make changes if the server is brutally angry/toxic and doesn't retain players/guilds that start up here, would be my opinion.

[Nizzarr]

I guess this was directed to blue where it's a successful high populated server with a fun atmosphere?

I definitely think the GM'S/Devs should make changes if the server is brutally angry/toxic and doesn't retain players/guilds that start up here, would be my opinion.

fun atmosphere at the high end on the blue server? lol you gotta be kidding me

[Stasis01]

You can still take all the loot you want via PVP, you just can't force everyone else to quit - you'll survive.

[Nizzarr]

You can still take all the loot you want via PVP, you just can't force everyone else to quit - you'll survive.

what are you babbling about?

[Zereh]

Blue has never had a "fun" raid atmosphere; it has been a complete shitstorm since the get-go.

[dre]

banning people for slaying a raid mob is fucking retard shit

[HippoNipple]

That post has 100% to do with the new raiding tiers on blue.

Red99 is completely governed by the player base as far as PvP and PvE.

Is the guild leader of Nihilum suggesting that the players should be able to govern themselves as far as rules against griefing, cheating, hacking, exploiting, etc.?

Things like this have never been in the hands of the players. It seems rather selfish, greedy and arrogant to think guide/gm powers should be in the hands of players.

[AmukTZ]

Who has been banned for slaying a raid mob?? Wth I'm confused now.

The quote doesn't mean much bc eqlive players were paying for it. Of course players had more say and there was plenty of servers where you could go to. On emu we aren't paying for it and should be happy to play the way the owners want us to. I thought the teir system discussed on blue was Nilbogs idea?

[Zereh]

On Live no one was stuck on the same content for 24+ freakin' months.

Top guilds pushed through the latest and greatest content (top tier) and yet there was still plenty of other stuff (second, third tier) for others.

[Rellapse36]

CTV worst guild sorry Zereh

[Zereh]

pfft They're still going strong.

Why not just let this server remain as it is and start a fresh server with some preemptive raid scene rules in place?

[Colgate]

how about we ban the people who create a toxic environment and then we won't need tons of rules and the population could go up?

[evilldacbane]

All the gms have admitted to hating Ambrotos.

[Zereh]

Ok.

Do we get to vote?

[Mac Dretti]

Quit crying you fucking no life. You've had two years on here of uncontested pve content not to mention your RMT operation.

wahhh

Quit crying

[Instagib]

how about we ban the people who create a toxic environment and then we won't need tons of rules and the population could go up?

[Kergan]

The fact of the matter is no amount of legislation will fix the server. People will always find ways to rule lawyer around shit. The playerbase has to dictate it or it will be ultimately futile.

[heartbrand]

Storm the Peak 2014

[Heebee]

CTV worst guild sorry Zereh

^ This.

[Jenni D]

Ambrotos top blue GM and I put that on buddha

[Clark]

Agreed should be up to playerbase.

[k9quaint]

Agreed should be up to playerbase.

If there are no rules enforced by GMs, I hear there are client side exploits to crash zones that Nihilum is trying to raid in. We got to see Abacab demonstrate one today in Dreadlands!

Try to get your pixels with no rules. ;)

[Kergan]

There is a big difference between anti hacking/cheating rules and rules that force behavioral changes.

[Tassador]

use of pras officially no longer cool guys :(

Any term made up in eq was never cool. Hope no one is using this in vent, ts or rl /;

[Bamz4l]

its funny u get to pick and choose what applies to red and what does not.



remember this?


http://i.imgur.com/XWzi1n6.png

[Bamz4l]

You wish, this was a blue post.

[vouss]

yeah gm's are probably happy hosting an 8 population server for ambrotos

[Nizzarr]

its funny u get to pick and choose what applies to red and what does not.



remember this?




sorry your reading comprehension is bad, obviously not a talent from forum trolls

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

Blue has never had a "fun" raid atmosphere; it has been a complete shitstorm since the get-go.

only due to people taking 12 year old garbage raid mobs too seriously

oddly enough the same thing happened on red, it turned into a job , then a business

with casual players left out in the cold[

all of nihilum should be banned so normal people can have fun

TMo should never be able to login either

and if another guild rises up to cockblock ? ban them too

this is supposed to be for fun

[Rollbackprices]

only due to people taking 12 year old garbage raid mobs too seriously

oddly enough the same thing happened on red, it turned into a job , then a business

with casual players left out in the cold[

all of nihilum should be banned so normal people can have fun

TMo should never be able to login either

and if another guild rises up to cockblock ? ban them too

this is supposed to be for fun

The NY Yankees should be banned from MLB, too much winning, too serious.

All Blacks should certainly be banned from Rugby, waaay too much winning, far too serious.

[Clark]

its funny u get to pick and choose what applies to red and what does not.



remember this?


http://i.imgur.com/XWzi1n6.png

lol