Ghoulbane

[Seredoc]

Ok, looking for a bit of info here guys.

I know the sword is a drop but Guk but I was reading about the quest to allow you to get the sword without camping the mob.

When I look at the quest called The Sword of Nobility (http://wiki.project1999.com/The_Sword_of_Nobility) the wiki states it will NEVER be on p1999 and I am trying to find out why.

Looking over details on Zam it looks like people were completing this quest in May of 2001 which puts it solidly in the Velious timeline.

Just trying to get some details for the wiki here, don't want to make a change if there is in fact some reason that would prevent this quest from being implemented.

[BlackTriad]

Ghoulbane made no drop: January 23, 2002 3:00 am. This date was after Luclin since it mentions Umbral Planes among other Luclin zones.

I wasn't able to find any patch notes that introduced/talked about the quest being added.

From: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020123.html


JANUARY 23, 2002

Quests:

Ragefire portion of the Cleric Epic quest has been changed. Please see the Developer's Corner on our web site for more details.
Added Quest NPCs to Thurgadin, Kael and Skyshrine for Beastlord quest armor.
Gravel leaf tea will now fit in the combine container for the associated quest.
Grimling Blood should now be dropping.
Idia in the bard guild in Kelethin was telling you to turn in a quest item to the incorrect NPC. Changed quest text to reflect the correct NPC to hand the item to.
In Iceclad, Keref Spiritspear won't be so unreasonable when you complete the task that he asks of you.
Citizens in skyshrine no longer defend the 'vermin' spiders.
Increased the drop rate of the Staff of Elemental Mastery: Earth.
Bloody Shak Dratha Hearts should now be dropping.
Quest of Nobility should now be working properly.
Increased the spawn rate of Brother Qwinn tenfold.
Items:

Adjusted statistics on equipment that was dropping in the Umbral Plains. Many of the items had AC that was inconsistent with the armor types of the classes. The AC has been reduced on some pieces and raised on others. In all instances where the AC was dropped a different statistic was raised. Several items received a significant upgrade while others were downgraded.
Also in regards to Umbral Plains armor, Ranger has been removed from the plate class armor that was dropping and have been added to the usable classes on the chain equivalent. Bards have been added to the plate equipment list. This might mean that some Rangers will have armor that they can't use. Our Customer Service personnel will trade out that armor for the chain equivalent.
Ghoulbane is now No-Drop.
SoulFire charges can only be used by Paladins (though they can be used from inventory).
Raised the armor value on many Beastlord specific armor pieces.
Added effects to a few of the Wild Lord's armor pieces.
Added Vah Shir to Imbrued Plate Mail usable races.
Rhino Hide armor is now Druid and Monk usable.
The Crustacean Shell Shield is now magic.
Scroll of Knowledge can now be equipped in the primary, secondary, and range slots.
Scroll of Enlightenment can now be equipped in the primary, secondary, and range slots.
Thought Horror Fangs can now be thrown.
Iron Scroll of War must now be worn to activate.
Cloak of Thorns right click effect should work now.
Runed Bone Fork is now equippable primary, secondary and ranged. The "range" value has been removed to prevent people from accidentally throwing them.
Spider Fur Collar has been given weight 0.0 to be consistent with other pieces.
Dark Cloak of the Sky must now be worn to activate.
Sage's Crown is now No-Drop to match every other Velious quest armor.
Icicle Circlet is now No-Drop to match every other Velious quest armor.
Bone Collar of the Possessed should no longer cause players to crash when inventory is opened.
Idol of Rallos Zek can now be used by ShadowKnights.
Helm of Grim Blessings can now be used by Wood Elves.
Flayed Skin Bracer is no longer a Lore item.
Greaves of Avoidance can now be used by all races.
Steel Threaded Wrist Wraps are no longer lore.
Bravado's Breastplate now grants a larger Hit Point bonus.
Guise of the Hunter can now also be worn by human bards and rogues.
Primal Cudgel now has the proper effect.
Added "Recommended Level" equal to the current item use level for the several items. All of these items require the player to be level 51+ to equip them and/or use their effects. Setting the "Recommended Level" field like this just lets the player know what level they need to be to use the item. The actual utility of the item was not affected in any way, this change is purely informational.
Several items have been changed to be not usable by Iksar. They had been erroneously set as Iksar usable in the last item patch. These were primarily items that were usable by Beastlords (and were therefore changed to allow all Beastlord races to use them), but that had been specifically restricted from use by Iksar due to their inherent armor value.
Zones:

Shades in Umbral, Maiden's Eye and Vex Thall are now considered undead.
Placed portals to and from Great Divide and Nexus.
Added many new items to better round out the rewards for high-level Luclin encounters.
Horses:

Implemented horse trade in quests. There are now four stable hands who will buy back specific colored bridles located in the stables in the Bazaar.
Being stunned will now stop players on horses. Not stopping them when stunned was causing warping and other bad things.
Knockback spells, and spells that throw you into the air, now affect people on horses properly.
Horses now levitate when their rider should.
Fixed a bug that was causing the client to crash when attempting to follow someone while on a horse. /follow should also now work when the person you are following is on a horse.
Spells:

Wizard Familiar spell scrolls will now increase in purchase cost with the spell level.
Several spells will no longer be interrupted, spells such as the 'proc' generated by Instrument of Nife.
Several spells that were not functioning in the planes have been fixed and now work in the planes .
Bards should now gain singing skill when singing and should no longer gain skill in an instrument when they are not using one.
Characters are no longer damaged by damage shields when using throwing weapons.
Atol's Spectral Shackles has had its casting difficulty reduced.
Made some changes to Nature's Recovery to make it more stackable.
Visual Issues:

Wolves and warders should no longer appear to be very small.
Characters no longer lose their hair or beard when their illusions wear off.
Weapons should now appear properly (sometimes they wouldn't show up at all) when a player zoned in.
Characters in wolf or bear form (or other races that aren't player races) should no longer have parts of them tinted based on the armor the player was wearing.
Bear form should now look correct to people that zoned in after the spell was cast on them.
May have fixed the problem with extra mouse cursor showing in game.
Fixed a problem with NPCs, PCs and some objects not being visible in some zones (Wakening Lands, Plane of Growth, Emerald Jungle and Swamp of No Hope).
Performance Issues:

More work on reducing zone times for Luclin city zones.
"Hitch" created when player characters enter a zone should be gone now.
Fixed a bug that could cause the client to crash in some cases where a character tried to purchase an item from a vendor but didn't have enough money.
Characters with pets that zone (horses, familiars and warders) should now be able to zone from North Qeynos to Qeynos Hills.
New Features:

Holding shift while clicking the resolution in the options in game will reduce the resolution. If you are already in 640x480 though, this does nothing. Normal click increases the resolution as it always has and still wraps back to 640 after the highest resolution your machine supports.
Using 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 resolutions, the /wincolor command, and getting the inventory window in fullview mode are now available to all EverQuest players (these features were restricted only to Velious owners).
PvP:

It is no longer possible to bandage others of the opposing deity team on Sullon Zek.
Alternate Advancement Abilities:

Lowered the reuse time on Rampage AA ability from 15 minutes to 10 minutes.
Rampage is now fixed. Previously was only hitting one target.
Mass Group Buff button should work properly when zoning.
Casting Reinforcement should now work on all buffs cast, not just those cast on yourself.
The Discipline Duelist should now be doing the correct damage when using Chaotic Stab.
LifeBurn should now reset properly after being interrupted.
Dire Charm should now reset properly after being interrupted.
Fixed the Quick Buff ability to work as described.
Leech Touch should refresh properly now.
Exodus and Nexus Gate now have a casting time of 1/10th of a second.

[Arteker]

one of the main reasons being turned a quest was the necro abuse of ghoulbane.

Necros would get x2 ghoulsbanes and hand to pets since it proc at low lvl necro pets where 4%·$%·$% shit realy fast.

[nothsa]

I remeber doing this quest before luclin was released.the ghoulsbane was first tradeable.

[Daldaen]

Ghoulbane on necro pet is a good idea. But 2... They're lore?

The paladin GM in felwithe also drops Ghoulbane if you have access to an epic Mage and a BP cleric who are bored. 6 min respawn at 1k a pop! Mad money.

[Arteker]

Ghoulbane was turned no drop 17 jan of 2002 .

The quest was added around 10 of july :** Zone and Quest Changes **

- The Crazed Ghouls should be less of a problem in Unrest.

meaning paladins would hunt them for ghoulbanes

[Seredoc]

Ghoulbane was turned no drop 17 jan of 2002 .

The quest was added around 10 of july :** Zone and Quest Changes **

- The Crazed Ghouls should be less of a problem in Unrest.

meaning paladins would hunt them for ghoulbanes

Except this is from July 10th of 2001. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2001-2.html

Which means that the quest was live before Luclin & before Stonebrunt but after or during the plane of hate & fear revamp/warrens launch. So how is this more evidence showing the quest for Ghoulbane was not in the game post Velious pre-Luclin?


Edit: and just because no one seems to listen...errrr, read, here is a quote from alla

Completion of Quest
QuoteReply
# Jun 02 2001 at 8:54 AM Rating: Default
Anonymous
Anonymous
My husband and I decided to complete this quest with our level 31 warrior and 30 druid for our lower level paladins. We started out in WK and then went to BB to give the note to Kanthuk and then kill the goblins. Since we were both doing the quest we had to get two drops of everything.

The first sword dropped after 7 kills. The second one took at least 25. These goblins hit harder than their con. They conned blue to level 31.

After the swords we went to find Llara in dagnors. She was in the water the first time we found her. We then went to unrest to kill ghouls. My husband had looted a heart a couple of days previous not knowing what it was for. We killed 2 ghouls and got the heart.

Then we headed for Najena. We killed 2 skeletons and the first hilt dropped. We killed 2 more and a second one dropped. We then went outside and found Ruathey and then headed to the keep.

We and our level 29 wizzie friend took the war room. The first goblin theif dropped the scroll. We killed three more theifs and crazed goblins and got the second. We finished the quest in just about 6 hours and had 2 Ghoulbanes. We got pretty lucky and I am just thankful I do not have to camp the frogs for that thing again.

Ginnie Silverheart
Level 32 Warrior
&
Revellie Swiftfeet
Level 31 Druid
On Ayonae Ro


Aside from extra spaces to correct the wall of text this is a direct copy paste from alla. Timestamped june 2nd 2001. Luclin went live Dec 4th 2001. Quest for Ghoulbane should exist before Stonebrunt.

[Swish]

If there's anything wrong with the wiki, please correct the wiki... its only as good as the time we put into it :)

[Potus]

one of the main reasons being turned a quest was the necro abuse of ghoulbane.

Necros would get x2 ghoulsbanes and hand to pets since it proc at low lvl necro pets where 4%·$%·$% shit realy fast.

I do not remember this at all, and ykesha's were better overall as pet weapons due to how easy they were to acquire and their proc rate.

[Raavak]

Ghoulbane on necro pet is a good idea. But 2... They're lore?Do you have a mule carry the second? Though would seem like a lot of trouble to go through to do.

[Seredoc]

If there's anything wrong with the wiki, please correct the wiki... its only as good as the time we put into it :)


I am going to, problem is with this thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39324&highlight=sword+nobility) where Nilbog flat out states it will not be in game.

Trying to build up enough information to either A] prove him absolutely right(making myself look like a jackass in the process) or to B]prove him wrong, update(potential) future quests and then fix the wiki.

I don't want to jump the gun and I am just trying to make sure I am in fact no the one providing false or misleading info.

If Nilbog(or anyone for that matter) would provide info on WHY it is not going to be available when even the patch history and first hand experience from alla seem to point to the contrary I will drop it and leave it sit.


Sorry to be a pain, I do this kind of thing for a living and not having correct info bugs the crap outta me lol

[kaev]

On live, I made a fair bit of pp doing the quest and selling GB, price dropped quickly from 1500ish to 500ish during that span. It wasn't a long time after the quest went live that they made GB nodrop, maybe 2 or 3 months, but that was long enough for the server I was playing on to be pretty well flooded with ghoulbanes. or maybe longer than 2-3 months, after rereading the rest of the thread, lol

[Seredoc]

Also, attention to detail helps. On the left hand side ofThe Sword of Nobility (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1260) quest page, under all the "related info" panes it simply states "Entered: Wed Jun 13 09:02:36 2001"

How could the quest have been known to be entered into alla during Velious if it wasn't completed during Velious.

Does anyone have any idea on how to get someone with authority to deny/confirm without posting a second topic in the server chat or PMing someone(don't like to PM as I am not a veteran here and I don't want to seem pushy over minute details that ultimately are just me data hoarding lol)

[Seredoc]

Just bringing this back to the top for a minute as there has not been an answer to the flat out denial of the questable ghoulbane's existence in Velious when I have provided a few examples of it being in game and achieveable


Again, if someone with authority could weigh in it would be nice.

Maybe I should repost this in the general chat to get people's attention once this has settled again. No reason to make a duplicate when this one could have been skimmed over