PnP rules are't working too well. Some problems/clarification

[Tune]

I'll try to keep this short. I ran into some problems today and i think people are getting the wrong idea. I'd like to take a second to disect this passage and elaborate on some of sirken's ideas.

"Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of retrieving their corpse is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account. You are expected in all cases to give someone a reasonable amount of time to recover their corpse and leave the area prior to attacking again. This also applies to raid/group/guild PvP.

Conversely, the person recovering their corpse is expected to do so and retreat to safety promptly. In other words, sitting next to your corpse and taunting someone while daring them to attack you so that you can /petition them is bad form, and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account."


Naked players are acting like they should be immune to pvp. Unless they knowingly just died to you , or your guildmates... IN THE ZONE you find them (aka they have a corpse) then they are fair game. LNS will then apply to them when they return to that zone and have a corpse, they are able to loot and scoot to the next zone.

I would like to elaborate on the words "over and over" found above. This allows the person to get killed 1 time per zone per hour which is completely reasonable. I believe sirken stated this so correct me if I'm wrong , but naked players are not immune to pvp, This leads to people bagging their gear and traversing the world "naked" to be immune to pvp.

some general problems I have encountered in the lns department:

BIND POINTS
today we killed some1 at his bind point. he refused to leave the zone or camp out and just hung around.

CAN'T SCOOT
In seb today some1 kamakazeed into our group and got them killed. He ran all the way back, looted his gear, and then asked for help leaving the zone. Basically this person was stuck at the seb zone in with no way out, refused to log, kept training and dying, running back looting/ He was voilating lns by constantly re-entering the zone. This is a little rediculous if we are obliged to go out of our way to help people get their bodies so they can attack us every hour. If you cant handle the cr, stay out of the zone.

[Bamz4l]

u play too much, just take a break

[jaybone]

u play too much, just take a break

[Kraftwerk]

u play too much, just take a break

[heartbrand]

u play too much, just take a break

[iiNGloriouS]

Or you can learn to fucking read and have comprehension behind it. Fucking morans.

[SamwiseRed]

u play too much, just take a break

[Smedy]

lets listen to tune with 481 kills and 4 deaths, he clearly cares about server and would never farm innocent people in rags or nakeds

his input on server health clearly priority nr #1

[Tune]

thanks for all the constructive feed back

[Genedin]

u play too much, just take a break

[Tradesonred]

You cant polish a turd

That piece of the ruleset is a turd

So much arbitrary, what ifs, itd be hard to deal with that even if i was being paid to be a GM

[hagard]

u play too much, just take a break

Go outside tune u albino fuk
Btw real pvprs don't kill naked players

[k9quaint]

Angry banned players don't like the PnP rules.
Surprise?
http://www.awsm.com/img/2010/surprise-cat.png
I think not.

[hagard]

Tune bant?

[Tradesonred]

Angry banned players don't like the PnP rules.
Surprise?
http://www.awsm.com/img/2010/surprise-cat.png
I think not.

Harrison?

[heals4reals]

Andis runs around naked for immunity on his ench

Exploiting ruleset

[k9quaint]

Andis runs around naked for immunity on his ench

Exploiting ruleset

My bard ran around naked back when it was cool. Now its just a bunch of pretenders streaking across DL and OT. :(

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

u play too much, just take a break

[Kilbur]

Rules are pathetic, all it does is make you think you are safe to loot or safe to zone over and not plug when you normally should and then people do not follow these new rules which I do not agree with in first place.. I.e Pyrokinetic nuking me at 20 percent and Rez effects.. Without rules I would have just plugged or even gated right as I see potential pvp in zone.. But.. I'm thinking it's all good we have rules that let me casually leave with my corpse.. Another example ..qazzazz nuking me down as I'm looting my corpse... See my two corpses outside KC zone.. Again I just would have plugged out and came back at a later time... Rules are not needed and not everyone follows them as it is.. It's too easy to say "I just logged in". Or "I didn't know"

[Kilbur]

I can agree on one thing... When another guild wipes a guild in a raid zone such as plane of hate or fear... Do not camp and let them retrieve corpses and leave etc.. All this other stuff not really needed. It was fine how it was

[Tradesonred]

Rules are pathetic, allot does is make you think you are safe to loot or safe to zone over and not plug when you normally should and then people do not follow these new rules which I do not agree with in first place.. I.e Pyrokinetic nuking me at 20 percent and Rez effects.. Without rules I would have just plugged or even gated right as I see potential pvp in zone.. But.. I'm thinking it's all good we have rules that let me casually leave with my corpse.. Another example ..qazzazz nuking me down as I'm looting my corpse... See my two corpses outside KC zone.. Again I just would have plugged out and came back at a later time... Rules are not needed and not everyone follows them as it is.. It's too easy to say "I just logged in". Or "I didn't know"

Its a headache for everyone, its like everyone got high at the dev party and someone went hey how about we try THIS? Oh.... Yeah.... lets do that

[thisuserwasbannedlol]

you are implying rational thought goes into any of the stupid shit they decide

why anyone would play on rmt99 is beyond me, with asshole staff that don't give a fuck about anyone, sociopath players and insane griefing , who would come here for a positive gaming experience?

sociopaths of course!

oh and chewie,

[Kilbur]

I wouldn't go that far.. I'm saying the server is fun without the rules.. Maybe step in with non stop bind killing and stuff but most of this shit is all part of PVP. I come from rallos zek where if you got caught slippin you lost an expensive piece of gear.. This no risk death stuff is nothing.

[Nizzarr]

3 pages, 5 real replies.

most troll from red dawn members

[Andis]

I'll try to keep this short. I ran into some problems today and i think people are getting the wrong idea. I'd like to take a second to disect this passage and elaborate on some of sirken's ideas.

"Killing someone over and over again while at his or her bind-point or while they are in the process of retrieving their corpse is illegal and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account. You are expected in all cases to give someone a reasonable amount of time to recover their corpse and leave the area prior to attacking again. This also applies to raid/group/guild PvP.

Conversely, the person recovering their corpse is expected to do so and retreat to safety promptly. In other words, sitting next to your corpse and taunting someone while daring them to attack you so that you can /petition them is bad form, and may result in disciplinary action taken against your account."


Naked players are acting like they should be immune to pvp. Unless they knowingly just died to you , or your guildmates... IN THE ZONE you find them (aka they have a corpse) then they are fair game. LNS will then apply to them when they return to that zone and have a corpse, they are able to loot and scoot to the next zone.

I would like to elaborate on the words "over and over" found above. This allows the person to get killed 1 time per zone per hour which is completely reasonable. I believe sirken stated this so correct me if I'm wrong , but naked players are not immune to pvp, This leads to people bagging their gear and traversing the world "naked" to be immune to pvp.


if naked players are not immune to pvp, explain andis suspension, killing puddems naked once as I just loaded into game.

now take a second

explain nihilum YT me twice in 5 mins last night on the ench

1 by puddems when i was geared, and once by TUNE naked at MY BIND

not sure if srs or dumb

[Tune]

i just loaded into game can be an excuse for everything

[Instagib]

u play too much, just take a break

[lite]

u play too much, just take a break

[iiNGloriouS]

3 pages, 5 real replies.

most troll from red dawn members

Slash... Wait for it because the previous word is an amazing guitarist... Face.

Nobody takes anything nihilum says seriously. You all need some lives, try to get laid, stop being so over obsessed with pixels. It's really sad

[Not_Kazowi]

u play too much, just take a break

Fuck you tune you loser.

Dude drags my link dead character to some remote spot in OT and kills me under the world somehow so I can't get my corpse. Procedes to brag about good luck finding my body in ooc.

Tune is so bad for this server in every way. Hope you get banned dude. Would help the server and maybe your non existent RL.

[Nizzarr]

Interesting. more trolls

[lite]

Fuck you tune you loser.

Dude drags my link dead character to some remote spot in OT and kills me under the world somehow so I can't get my corpse. Procedes to brag about good luck finding my body in ooc.

Tune is so bad for this server in every way. Hope you get banned dude. Would help the server and maybe your non existent RL.

Exploit city!

[Not_Kazowi]

Interesting. more trolls

You're the biggest troll of all dude. You get banned on your warrior for training and you just can NOT stay away from the server for what? 2 days?

These stay at home sons in their 30s playing EQ like this is disgusting. You're way too invested in the server. Seriously log off the computer and do something with yourselves.

[runlvlzero]

You're the biggest troll of all dude. You get banned on your warrior for training and you just can NOT stay away from the server for what? 2 days?

These stay at home sons in their 30s playing EQ like this is disgusting. You're way too invested in the server. Seriously log off the computer and do something with yourselves.

like wut? lol...... military industrial complex has us pinned down, bunch of intolerant crazy people out there never book learned standing between us and the guys at the top of the pyramid

EQ is the only reason society still stands, otherwise u'de have neckbeards doing this shit irls moar...

[Dullah]

You're the biggest troll of all dude. You get banned on your warrior for training and you just can NOT stay away from the server for what? 2 days?

These stay at home sons in their 30s playing EQ like this is disgusting. You're way too invested in the server. Seriously log off the computer and do something with yourselves.

Translation: I lost at a video game and I'm upset.

[Silikten]

u play too much, just take a break

[Stasis01]

Tune biggest grief deliverer on the box of course he hates PNP.

It is more applicable for raids, as raids griefing raids is brutal especially in tough to CR places and people have to log off etc. As far as single pvp/bullshit like this Kilbur guy saying he trusted some guy blah blah whatever, play shit like that like anything goes. When you try contesting VP neckbeard crew you'll be thankful this shit is in.

I mean if a guy was chain training you, training is against the rules to begin with so he should eat a suspension, I don't know what you're lobbying there. That you would have killed him in TT earlier? You could have probably just chain mezd him like you did to my level 52, and then OT hammering and dragging an LD player out to the middle of the zone and kill him and laugh at him in OOC that he can't find his corpse like you did yesterday.

This guy cares pals, as does Nizzar, we gotta allow anything goes so they can stop getting griefed so bad.

[Stasis01]

And I think with Andis, I don't technically think you broke a rule - but they were in example mode and you did kill a guy CRing from PVP from someone you were grouped with, saying "I just logged on" is a bad excuse to have when they're in "we'll fucking ban you mode, try us mother fuckers."

Just take it like a champ man and who cares it's a week.

[Tune]

rexx who ?

ohh yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo1hmS4H5Rk

[Lawler]

Lets get back on topic.
u play too much, just take a break

[freez]

Btw real pvprs don't kill naked players



ps tune bannt?


pls try not to kill urself under suspension.

it will lift.



best wishes bitch

[freez]

Interesting. more trolls

u mad?

suck my dick, ***** .


sugg sugg sugg


brah

[Bazia]

afghanistan sux bros

[Nizzarr]

u mad?

suck my dick, ***** .


sugg sugg sugg


brah

Family oriented guild, red dawn members

[Stasis01]

Freez spouting some ridiculous shit talk or you making a guild raid for your VP guild to wipe and force LNS on an open server planar raid.

Hmmm.

[Nizzarr]

?

Obviously forum pvp more important than in-game pvp.

[Stasis01]

Server's gona catch on to you, such blatant flexing going to change some minds of your guildies eventually, they'll start realising I'm not the troll and you are.

Better watch yourself pal.

[freez]

bro im guilded with azreal


the place where we tell little faggots like you to suck a cock.



understand ?

=D

[Tune]

looool

[freez]

looool

'ed

[Dullah]

rexx who ?

ohh yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo1hmS4H5Rk

laughin so hard

I see nothing has changed.

[Not_Kazowi]

The funny thing is that you career virgins care 20 times more than I do. I already went hard on EQ back when I was in college on a pvp infested server way more fun than this box.

I'm not alone in my thoughts; tune is not good for the server. Dude plays way too much and just kills people that pose no threat to him. I'm just board warrioring for the good of the server pals. My play time is sparse and I could not log on for months at a time.

Keep riding my nuts though. There's a reason people hate on big Rexx, they jealous I'm a legend.

[Dullah]

We dont pvp much, were bluebies and the bane of the server.

We pvp, and we're all of a sudden the "griefers", and the bane of the server.

Make up your fucking minds.

[vouss]

Yesterday 7 azrael zoned into 13 Nihilum in Sebelis, they all ported out and left, then a couple hours later bat phone 40 people to kill open raid of level 46's.

[Beibei]

You guys need to grow the fuck up. They introduced PnP and all of a sudden /ooc is getting spammed 24/7 about it. Nihilum putting in all their effort into not using common sense when it comes to letting people loot n scoot.

They finally understood that making people _not_ playing the game is bad for the server.

We finally got a bunch of new players and the GM:s trying to make people stay..
the horror..

[Twainz]

u play too much, just take a break

[Sektor]

u mad?

suck my dick, ***** .


sugg sugg sugg


brah

lmfao

[Mac Dretti]

Wahhh I wish I was 14 wahhh I can't do what I want wahhh vidya games

[raka]

u play too much, just take a break

[Elderan]

Yesterday 7 azrael zoned into 13 Nihilum in Sebelis, they all ported out and left, then a couple hours later bat phone 40 people to kill open raid of level 46's.
You mean we ported in 22 on top of 36 Red Dawn..

Yes we did that, result was 21 dead Red Dawn and 0 Nihilum.

Just keep in mind the only reason we kill Red Dawn is the fact they allied themselves with the scumbags of the server.

[Not_Kazowi]

You mean we ported in 22 on top of 36 Red Dawn..

Yes we did that, result was 21 dead Red Dawn and 0 Nihilum.

Just keep in mind the only reason we kill Red Dawn is the fact they allied themselves with the scumbags of the server.

You guys enjoy killing people under leveled and under geared over equal opponents. Pussies man, one week into that guild I realized what a bunch of career virgin cowards they were. I don't know how anyone can listen to nizzar bark orders on ts like he's a general manager at a samsclub or something.

[Elderan]

You guys enjoy killing people under leveled and under geared over equal opponents. Pussies man, one week into that guild I realized what a bunch of career virgin cowards they were. I don't know how anyone can listen to nizzar bark orders on ts like he's a general manager at a samsclub or something.

I know you are new here Rexx.. Nihilum only kills for a purpose. The purpose of the hate pvp was due to Red Dawn breaking our agreement and declaring war.

[Rexxin]

You guys enjoy killing people under leveled and under geared over equal opponents. Pussies man, one week into that guild I realized what a bunch of career virgin cowards they were. I don't know how anyone can listen to nizzar bark orders on ts like he's a general manager at a samsclub or something.

Now thats funny

[heartbrand]

No one broke any agreement. Lawlzies, my officer of diplomacy, spoke with Nizzar. The great unemployed and scholastic champion, told us we had "sickpuppy" in our guild. Of course, this is complete b.s. When we told him we didn't, he said we had Sealer in our guild. Of course, also b.s. Then he told us we had Lite in our guild, again b.s. Basically every single person this guy claimed he was "waging war" on us over, wasn't even in the guild, nor were their alts, wizing, memi, etc. After realizing this, he just stopped communicating.

Though truth be told, I don't even know why I'm bothering posting this, it will just turn into another shit fest of "RAWR MEMBER 7.0 ISNT SOMEONE WE LIKE CUZ THEY HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION THAN US SO NOW WE NEEDZ TO KILL U ON A 100 POP SERVER RAWR!!!!!" Lol, ok, np, LNS thanks for the fight c u next time. Maybe other guilds were scared of dying in the past so this retarded shit worked? Dunno, but Red Dawn could care less. Port on top of every raid if you want for all we care, it's fun and good practice. The only people you're griefing are the people whose names I can't disclose who send me tells daily from Nihilum saying they are sick of killing Red Dawn and getting sick of the b.s.

Happy New Years pals.

[heartbrand]

You guys enjoy killing people under leveled and under geared over equal opponents. Pussies man, one week into that guild I realized what a bunch of career virgin cowards they were. I don't know how anyone can listen to nizzar bark orders on ts like he's a general manager at a samsclub or something.

One of the funniest things I've ever read on the interwebz.

[Mac Dretti]

Lol u flood the hobbit simulator forums and ooc with whining butt hurt angst because you can't stay alive longer than 5 minutes to gain experience points on 14 year old content and rage quit

And your calling everyone else career virgins? Lol

http://media.tumblr.com/cc13b631e92854de908b1d9d3102f8ba/tumblr_inline_mpjbazfiRB1qz4rgp.gif

[Not_Kazowi]

I know you are new here Rexx.. Nihilum only kills for a purpose. The purpose of the hate pvp was due to Red Dawn breaking our agreement and declaring war.

Agreement or not dude.. Why grief people trying to gear up in stuff tapir guild attained 2 years ago. Then you come here and brag about not losing anyone in the fight.. I would hope you wouldn't lose anyone considering y'all are 60 with VP and sky quest loot.

Nihilism griefs red dawn, just stop living in denial about it.

[Elderan]

No one broke any agreement. Lawlzies, my officer of diplomacy, spoke with Nizzar. The great unemployed and scholastic champion, told us we had "sickpuppy" in our guild. Of course, this is complete b.s. When we told him we didn't, he said we had Sealer in our guild. Of course, also b.s. Then he told us we had Lite in our guild, again b.s. Basically every single person this guy claimed he was "waging war" on us over, wasn't even in the guild, nor were their alts, wizing, memi, etc. After realizing this, he just stopped communicating.

Though truth be told, I don't even know why I'm bothering posting this, it will just turn into another shit fest of "RAWR MEMBER 7.0 ISNT SOMEONE WE LIKE CUZ THEY HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION THAN US SO NOW WE NEEDZ TO KILL U ON A 100 POP SERVER RAWR!!!!!" Lol, ok, np, LNS thanks for the fight c u next time. Maybe other guilds were scared of dying in the past so this retarded shit worked? Dunno, but Red Dawn could care less. Port on top of every raid if you want for all we care, it's fun and good practice. The only people you're griefing are the people whose names I can't disclose who send me tells daily from Nihilum saying they are sick of killing Red Dawn and getting sick of the b.s.

Happy New Years pals.

Sometimes I wonder what reality you live in.

[Elderan]

Agreement or not dude.. Why grief people trying to gear up in stuff tapir guild attained 2 years ago. Then you come here and brag about not losing anyone in the fight.. I would hope you wouldn't lose anyone considering y'all are 60 with VP and sky quest loot.

Nihilism griefs red dawn, just stop living in denial about it.

Did not grief nor brag about it.

Break a deal, get the wheel...

[Mac Dretti]

Sometimes I wonder what reality you live in.

I live on Norrath and reside in the city of Erudin

[Not_Kazowi]

Lol u flood the hobbit simulator forums and ooc with whining butt hurt angst because you can't stay alive longer than 5 minutes to gain experience points on 14 year old content and rage quit

And your calling everyone else career virgins? Lol

http://media.tumblr.com/cc13b631e92854de908b1d9d3102f8ba/tumblr_inline_mpjbazfiRB1qz4rgp.gif

You're getting trolled BRO. I could care less about my e rep because the game isn't my life like some people.

I'm just a white knight for the little man. Helping make the server a better place one post at a time.

[Not_Kazowi]

You mean we ported in 22 on top of 36 Red Dawn..

Yes we did that, result was 21 dead Red Dawn and 0 Nihilum.



Looks like you're bragging about a flawless victory over 40s and 50s characters trying to clear fear.

[heartbrand]

You're playing a server with approximately 275-300 MAX unique active players on it, and on average about ~90 pop. Of that pop of active players, I would confidently estimate that about 70% of those players, if not far more, are <Nihilum>. Congratulations on killing lowbies. No one is griefed, and no one is mad. A couple of people who aren't patient and would rather just get instant gratification will app Nihilum. That's their right, and no one is mad with them, at least I'm not. You see it in every MMO, people who hop to the top as quickly as possible, then burn out and quit. The vast majority of us are enjoying the journey, enjoying the progression, and meaningless PVP deaths with LNS rules are nothing more than a five minute inconvenience. You haven't water boarded us, tortured our children, taken our jobs, robbed our 401k, or to be quite honest done anything at all. If you enjoy spending your time as such, by all means, be my guest, but at least to me personally, I just chuckle knowing that Ender's raspy voice is prolly going "WE GOT EM GUYS HEHEHEH WE GOT EM," as I sip my Spanish wine and watch NBA League Pass on one monitor, my stocks on another monitor, and my bind point on the third.

[Not_Kazowi]

Hey HB watch out Elderan has 8 figures

[Elderan]

You're playing a server with approximately 275-300 MAX unique active players on it, and on average about ~90 pop. Of that pop of active players, I would confidently estimate that about 70% of those players, if not far more, are <Nihilum>. Congratulations on killing lowbies. No one is griefed, and no one is mad. A couple of people who aren't patient and would rather just get instant gratification will app Nihilum. That's their right, and no one is mad with them, at least I'm not. You see it in every MMO, people who hop to the top as quickly as possible, then burn out and quit. The vast majority of us are enjoying the journey, enjoying the progression, and meaningless PVP deaths with LNS rules are nothing more than a five minute inconvenience. You haven't water boarded us, tortured our children, taken our jobs, robbed our 401k, or to be quite honest done anything at all. If you enjoy spending your time as such, by all means, be my guest, but at least to me personally, I just chuckle knowing that Ender's raspy voice is prolly going "WE GOT EM GUYS HEHEHEH WE GOT EM," as I sip my Spanish wine and watch NBA League Pass on one monitor, my stocks on another monitor, and my bind point on the third.

Checkraise, I was guilded with you long enough to see how much you cared about loot. You were one of those people who CONSTANTLY talked about how much DKP they had, who they were passing and what item you were getting next. You were one of those who just logged in for DKP day, nothing else to help people.

It is easy to talk about taking it easy when you have every item you want right now. We will see how that attitude changes when you are denied new loot you want.

That is when you will see the real Checkraise come out.

[Mac Dretti]

You're getting trolled BRO. I could care less about my e rep because the game isn't my life like some people.

I'm just a white knight for the little man. Helping make the server a better place one post at a time.

10/10 posts are RL attacks and tears

Not sure if srs

[Elderan]

Hey HB watch out Elderan has 8 figures

I have never attacked you man...

I just don't know why you care so much. You have put very little time into this server which is fine and all but you constantly come on the forums to talk about how people need to change etc.


As you tell others, I think its time for you to move on.

[Holey]

Checkraise, I was guilded with you long enough to see how much you cared about loot. You were one of those people who CONSTANTLY talked about how much DKP they had, who they were passing and what item you were getting next. You were one of those who just logged in for DKP day, nothing else to help people.

It is easy to talk about taking it easy when you have every item you want right now. We will see how that attitude changes when you are denied new loot you want.

That is when you will see the real Checkraise come out.

H3H3H3H3H3H3H3H3H3

[Not_Kazowi]

I have never attacked you man...

I just don't know why you care so much. You have put very little time into this server which is fine and all but you constantly come on the forums to talk about how people need to change etc.


As you tell others, I think its time for you to move on.

I hardly play at all so don't worry. The little time I do log on I have tune bug my corpse so I can't loot it and watch Nihilum grief the new players in the guild I'm in.

I want this server to thrive man and blossom. PNP is a step in the right direction but as top guild of the server you dudes have some obligations to hold back and not grief people trying to grind and gear up to your level. I have new players send me tells daily thanking me for calling out the bitches that grief them. I'm just being the peoples voice because I don't care about my rep here. Like I said earlier I just want this server to be the best it can be.

I defend HB because I've personally seen this guy log in and cleric BP heal groups everyday now. He helps put groups together, lends loot to people that need it and generally a pretty cool guy.

Maybe he used to be a disease but now he's actually a legit dude.

[Mac Dretti]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/991257c4b91086696284aa00e7a21e6e/tumblr_inline_mxno7cPcVr1r78pxz.gif

[heartbrand]

Checkraise, I was guilded with you long enough to see how much you cared about loot. You were one of those people who CONSTANTLY talked about how much DKP they had, who they were passing and what item you were getting next. You were one of those who just logged in for DKP day, nothing else to help people.

It is easy to talk about taking it easy when you have every item you want right now. We will see how that attitude changes when you are denied new loot you want.

That is when you will see the real Checkraise come out.

I was at probably almost every single Epic Fight there was for guildies. I was part of the crew helping farm Chardok Faction. I made 75%+ of every single piece of Hoshkar / Nexona jewelry, etc., that the core now uses. I was one of the few people who were ever willing to give my items that were upgraded for free to people who needed. I burnt thousands and thousands of plat on Midnight Mallets during my free time. I could go on and on, but the truth is you'll just respond saying "not true blah blah." That's fine, that's actually quite normal it's what we call: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"

"Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses."

So, since you once witnessed me perhaps not help with something, you've established that as your belief. Ok then, that's fine.

As far as loot, 1) it's impossible to cock block in Velious for a variety of reasons, but chiefly because there is no new content EVER coming out on Project 1999 after Velious This content will not be monopolized forever. 2) There are tons of options for progression in Velious, be it Dozekar / Tormax / PoG / PoM / Planes 2.0 / Dain / ToV, etc. If you think you'll simply stroll into ToV and just plow everything with no PVP then you're mistaken. Many fights are 15+ minutes in duration. There will be far more competition. 3) I don't play for loot, I play to see others have fun and progress. 4) If you think Velious is a way for me to gear myself, then you're mistaken. To me, a guild leader should always come last, to avoid any accusations of impropriety.

In closing, I've probably helped more people on this server than almost anyone. I hate saying it like that because it sounds pompous and conceited, and I don't help people to puff my chest out, but if someone is going to come at me and claim otherwise, then I'll certainly respond. Your contribution to the server has been logging on for several hours a week, hitting auto attack, and logging off. Congratulations on your accomplishments, and I hope they carry over for you to the next game you embark on in a year or two, when this server will surely die as there is nothing else coming on the horizon for Project 1999.

I don't think many people grasp that this project is coming to a certain end, and it's sooner rather than later. If people would relax a bit, perhaps they could enjoy it a bit more. For those who rush to reach the top of the mountain as quick as possible, it will only mean your retirement will be sooner. I don't find zerging things down in Velious with potentially 70+ people exciting. I did Velious when it was current, with mid 30's numbers, and it was thrilling. Alas though, that's why Project 1999 will always be pretty "meh" compared to live. This is a game meant to be played with thousands of people concurrently, and here we play it with often fewer than a hundred.

- Top Jew, Day 1 Red99 Player, Day1 EQ Player, Tax Expert

[Mac Dretti]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/look.gif

[Giovanni]

I hardly play at all so don't worry. The little time I do log on I have tune bug my corpse so I can't loot it and watch Nihilum grief the new players in the guild I'm in.

I want this server to thrive man and blossom. PNP is a step in the right direction but as top guild of the server you dudes have some obligations to hold back and not grief people trying to grind and gear up to your level. I have new players send me tells daily thanking me for calling out the bitches that grief them. I'm just being the peoples voice because I don't care about my rep here. Like I said earlier I just want this server to be the best it can be.

I defend HB because I've personally seen this guy log in and cleric BP heal groups everyday now. He helps put groups together, lends loot to people that need it and generally a pretty cool guy.

Maybe he used to be a disease but now he's actually a legit dude.


Seen the same thing. HB is a saint leading casuals to the pixel promised land.

Tune is just mad that he can no longer corpse camp lvl 52 planar raids until the casuals either quit the server or app Nihilum. The PNP worked perfectly when we were wiped in Hate last night allowing us to cr in an orderly fashion after being wiped.

[Elderan]

I was at probably almost every single Epic Fight there was for guildies. I was part of the crew helping farm Chardok Faction. I made 75%+ of every single piece of Hoshkar / Nexona jewelry, etc., that the core now uses. I was one of the few people who were ever willing to give my items that were upgraded for free to people who needed. I burnt thousands and thousands of plat on Midnight Mallets during my free time. I could go on and on, but the truth is you'll just respond saying "not true blah blah." That's fine, that's actually quite normal it's what we call: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"

"Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses."

So, since you once witnessed me perhaps not help with something, you've established that as your belief. Ok then, that's fine.

As far as loot, 1) it's impossible to cock block in Velious for a variety of reasons, but chiefly because there is no new content EVER coming out on Project 1999 after Velious This content will not be monopolized forever. 2) There are tons of options for progression in Velious, be it Dozekar / Tormax / PoG / PoM / Planes 2.0 / Dain / ToV, etc. If you think you'll simply stroll into ToV and just plow everything with no PVP then you're mistaken. Many fights are 15+ minutes in duration. There will be far more competition. 3) I don't play for loot, I play to see others have fun and progress. 4) If you think Velious is a way for me to gear myself, then you're mistaken. To me, a guild leader should always come last, to avoid any accusations of impropriety.

In closing, I've probably helped more people on this server than almost anyone. I hate saying it like that because it sounds pompous and conceited, and I don't help people to puff my chest out, but if someone is going to come at me and claim otherwise, then I'll certainly respond. Your contribution to the server has been logging on for several hours a week, hitting auto attack, and logging off. Congratulations on your accomplishments, and I hope they carry over for you to the next game you embark on in a year or two, when this server will surely die as there is nothing else coming on the horizon for Project 1999.

I don't think many people grasp that this project is coming to a certain end, and it's sooner rather than later. If people would relax a bit, perhaps they could enjoy it a bit more. For those who rush to reach the top of the mountain as quick as possible, it will only mean your retirement will be sooner. I don't find zerging things down in Velious with potentially 70+ people exciting. I did Velious when it was current, with mid 30's numbers, and it was thrilling. Alas though, that's why Project 1999 will always be pretty "meh" compared to live. This is a game meant to be played with thousands of people concurrently, and here we play it with often fewer than a hundred.

- Top Jew, Day 1 Red99 Player, Day1 EQ Player, Tax Expert


For people reading this thread not named Checkraise, just keep in mind he is one of the most dangerous people on the server. He will tell you one thing and convince you but will do the opposite behind your back. He plays for his own selfish gains. Little things will leak if you pay close attention but be careful. You wont find out about it until it is too late.

Keep this in mind, you have been warned.

[heartbrand]

For people reading this thread not named Checkraise, just keep in mind he is one of the most dangerous people on the server. He will tell you one thing and convince you but will do the opposite behind your back. He plays for his own selfish gains. Little things will leak if you pay close attention but be careful. You wont find out about it until it is too late.

Keep this in mind, you have been warned.

Perfect example of why I find you to be what I would call a "faggot." You can't just enjoy this game and have a friendly rivalry or what not. For some reason, my guess would be some sort of lack of fulfillment in real life, you have a need to try to take it to the next level. I understand what you're trying to do here. You believe that perhaps you can cast me as a nefarious villain in hopes that because of your guilds disdain for me (not shared throughout I might add), that maybe someone else will take over Red Dawn or something and you can fist pump and go "YAW WE GOT HIM GUYS WE FINALLY GOT HIM!"

If I left this server, Red Dawn would die. It's really not even a question. There's literally no one on this server willing to put in the time to build a guild and everything that goes with it. Nihilum knows this, which is why they work so hard to discredit me at every turn, and have brought in their new playbook of "just convince people to get rid of Checkraise and we will stop griefing them." I admire your perseverance and determination to "get me," but I'm afraid you are quite misinformed about the server, which stems from the fact that you've only seen it from one perspective.

Of course, I could question you for "prof" of why I'm "dangerous" (have I killed someone or assaulted them?), and you'll respond with more vague comments meant only to create distrust and suspicion rather than provide factual information. You're doing everything you're supposed to be doing from the Saul Alinsky book of propaganda. Perhaps you'll just repeat some prior discredited stories, knowing that maybe, just maybe, it will be some innocent ForumQuest browser's first post they read. Or maybe, more likely, you'll be convincing no one other than yourself and your pals, while looking like someone who is just a wee bit too immersed in EverQuest politics to everyone else.

tl;dr - Chill the fuck out

[Giovanni]

I heard Nihilum awards extra dkp if you buy the leadership a new computer and recently lost additional members who were banned for RMT.

Nihilum is VERY protective of mobs that drop pixels they don't even need anymore. Always wondered why....?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNJayEIqGhMxu_C83VJiFAKg542Un2-Dd7r41TT_qLEg-l-nte

[raka]

let me put this in perspective

The last 2 months in RD (which ive only been putting in about 6 hours a week)
-7 lvls
-2 plane pieces
- epic boots
-on final stage of epic with all needed pieces.


my 6 months in nihilum

-flayed turmoil skin belt

[Elderan]

Perfect example of why I find you to be what I would call a "faggot." You can't just enjoy this game and have a friendly rivalry or what not. For some reason, my guess would be some sort of lack of fulfillment in real life, you have a need to try to take it to the next level. I understand what you're trying to do here. You believe that perhaps you can cast me as a nefarious villain in hopes that because of your guilds disdain for me (not shared throughout I might add), that maybe someone else will take over Red Dawn or something and you can fist pump and go "YAW WE GOT HIM GUYS WE FINALLY GOT HIM!"

If I left this server, Red Dawn would die. It's really not even a question. There's literally no one on this server willing to put in the time to build a guild and everything that goes with it. Nihilum knows this, which is why they work so hard to discredit me at every turn, and have brought in their new playbook of "just convince people to get rid of Checkraise and we will stop griefing them." I admire your perseverance and determination to "get me," but I'm afraid you are quite misinformed about the server, which stems from the fact that you've only seen it from one perspective.

Of course, I could question you for "prof" of why I'm "dangerous" (have I killed someone or assaulted them?), and you'll respond with more vague comments meant only to create distrust and suspicion rather than provide factual information. You're doing everything you're supposed to be doing from the Saul Alinsky book of propaganda. Perhaps you'll just repeat some prior discredited stories, knowing that maybe, just maybe, it will be some innocent ForumQuest browser's first post they read. Or maybe, more likely, you'll be convincing no one other than yourself and your pals, while looking like someone who is just a wee bit too immersed in EverQuest politics to everyone else.

tl;dr - Chill the fuck out

Honestly I read all of your post like I read a speech from a politician, 90% lies 10% truth.

I have zero problems with almost everyone in Red Dawn, I was even willing to overlook your lies as leader in the beginning when you first said what you wanted to do. However almost everything you say you want to do as a guild as been a lie. You let the worst scum on this server be in your guild or allied with your guild. You ress people and then kill them for no reason. You break agreements.

If Red Dawn were to kick you and all ex azrael and one of the current officers were to take over I would call for sharing of some dragons right away.

[Elderan]

let me put this in perspective

The last 2 months in RD (which ive only been putting in about 6 hours a week)
-7 lvls
-2 plane pieces
- epic boots
-on final stage of epic with all needed pieces.


my 6 months in nihilum

-flayed turmoil skin belt

That is impossible.. We fully gear people out in 90 days normally. About 30-45 days to get full member and then 30-45 more days to get everything you could need except the extremely rare stuff.

We reward people generously. It has burned us in the past but we still do it.

[Giovanni]

That is impossible.. We fully gear people out in 90 days normally. About 30-45 days to get full member and then 30-45 more days to get everything you could need except the extremely rare stuff.

We reward people generously. It has burned us in the past but we still do it.

For Sale from the Nihilum Guild Bank:

"Medium Pixel Package Plan" - SOLD OUT (thanks Eximo)
"Greater Pixel Package Plan" - New computer for Nizzar (Must include Dragon Natural speaking disability software)
"Mistwalker" - $1500 (No warranties implied or guaranteed. No refunds.)

[Mac Dretti]

For Sale from the Nihilum Guild Bank:

"Medium Pixel Package Plan" - SOLD OUT (thanks Eximo)
"Greater Pixel Package Plan" - New computer for Nizzar (Must include Dragon Natural speaking disability software)
"Mistwalker" - $1500 (No warranties implied or guaranteed. No refunds.)



http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwx98o9vSo1qleo4jo1_500.gif

[Sektor]

For Sale from the Nihilum Guild Bank:

"Medium Pixel Package Plan" - SOLD OUT (thanks Eximo)
"Greater Pixel Package Plan" - New computer for Nizzar (Must include Dragon Natural speaking disability software)
"Mistwalker" - $1500 (No warranties implied or guaranteed. No refunds.)



I'll take 1 greater pixel package please.

[Kraftwerk]

Perfect example of why I find you to be what I would call a "faggot."

Elderan confirmed "faggot".

[Elderan]

Perfect example of why I find you to be what I would call a "faggot."

Oh did not even respond to this..

You call me a "faggot" and yet you report people who call you Jewish... (Which in fact according to you, you are of Jewish descent.)

Interesting isn't it.

[heartbrand]

Actually, I didn't report anyone.

[hagard]

lack of fulfillment in real life

u mean norrath isnt real life?????????



























MIND BLOWN

[lolbanned]

I was at probably almost every single Epic Fight there was for guildies. I was part of the crew helping farm Chardok Faction. I made 75%+ of every single piece of Hoshkar / Nexona jewelry, etc., that the core now uses. I was one of the few people who were ever willing to give my items that were upgraded for free to people who needed. I burnt thousands and thousands of plat on Midnight Mallets during my free time. I could go on and on, but the truth is you'll just respond saying "not true blah blah." That's fine, that's actually quite normal it's what we call: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"

"Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses."

So, since you once witnessed me perhaps not help with something, you've established that as your belief. Ok then, that's fine.

As far as loot, 1) it's impossible to cock block in Velious for a variety of reasons, but chiefly because there is no new content EVER coming out on Project 1999 after Velious This content will not be monopolized forever. 2) There are tons of options for progression in Velious, be it Dozekar / Tormax / PoG / PoM / Planes 2.0 / Dain / ToV, etc. If you think you'll simply stroll into ToV and just plow everything with no PVP then you're mistaken. Many fights are 15+ minutes in duration. There will be far more competition. 3) I don't play for loot, I play to see others have fun and progress. 4) If you think Velious is a way for me to gear myself, then you're mistaken. To me, a guild leader should always come last, to avoid any accusations of impropriety.

In closing, I've probably helped more people on this server than almost anyone. I hate saying it like that because it sounds pompous and conceited, and I don't help people to puff my chest out, but if someone is going to come at me and claim otherwise, then I'll certainly respond. Your contribution to the server has been logging on for several hours a week, hitting auto attack, and logging off. Congratulations on your accomplishments, and I hope they carry over for you to the next game you embark on in a year or two, when this server will surely die as there is nothing else coming on the horizon for Project 1999.

I don't think many people grasp that this project is coming to a certain end, and it's sooner rather than later. If people would relax a bit, perhaps they could enjoy it a bit more. For those who rush to reach the top of the mountain as quick as possible, it will only mean your retirement will be sooner. I don't find zerging things down in Velious with potentially 70+ people exciting. I did Velious when it was current, with mid 30's numbers, and it was thrilling. Alas though, that's why Project 1999 will always be pretty "meh" compared to live. This is a game meant to be played with thousands of people concurrently, and here we play it with often fewer than a hundred.

- Top Jew, Day 1 Red99 Player, Day1 EQ Player, Tax Expert

don't matter how much you helped nihilum or other players, the fact that you stole and threw it in people faces shows that you are a shady piece of shit. You can never win your rep back and red dawn is just a feeder guild for nihilum.

[hagard]

don't matter how much you helped nihilum or other players, the fact that you stole and threw it in people faces shows that you are a shady piece of shit. You can never win your rep back and red dawn is just a feeder guild for nihilum.

stop being such an angry faggot

[Holey]

whats with all these wall of paragraphs LOL

[Nirgon]

Rexx didn't you lead Heresy and stomp newbies in lesser/no gear on the boxes of old around the clock

[heartbrand]

Yaw, robbed tons of people, but somehow never took AoN or Donals off of Chopper. Seems reasonable. Gonna have to agree 2 disagree folks. I play for fun, I don't worry about Nihilum or what they're doing. If they want to plan their week around Red Dawn planar clears then more power to them. I'm just a lil ol ogre in Norrath u feel?

[chu]

worst is when you let someone rez his freshly YT'd pals in and they just join right back in the fight with oor heals and support
check the logs plz gm's, you will see Azzie happy to loot but refusing to SCOOT
< red dawn > again, what a surprise, 8 out of 10 known bind rushers were from that shit guild
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/azziebindrusher_zps847968b9.jpg

[Snufz]

For people reading this thread not named Checkraise, just keep in mind he is one of the most dangerous people on the server. He will tell you one thing and convince you but will do the opposite behind your back. He plays for his own selfish gains. Little things will leak if you pay close attention but be careful. You wont find out about it until it is too late.

Keep this in mind, you have been warned.

hahaha oh my lord you are such a faggot.

GO OUTSIDE.

[heartbrand]

Hey snufz grats on the win. U r a tru champion

[Mac Dretti]

worst is when you let someone rez his freshly YT'd pals in and they just join right back in the fight with oor heals and support
check the logs plz gm's, you will see Azzie happy to loot but refusing to SCOOT
< red dawn > again, what a surprise, 8 out of 10 known bind rushers were from that shit guild
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/azziebindrusher_zps847968b9.jpg

Scummie

[heartbrand]

What is this a screenshot of, when I killed you yesterday? How is this bind rushing? I haven't died on Selena in like 15+ days?

[Mac Dretti]

Do u even read

[heartbrand]

So an OOR mage or something got rezzed from a pve death and this is bind rushing how? All I see is a Shadowknight being killed by a Cleric.

[Nixus]

11 pages of tl;dr, but I think the PnP is working out well. In fact I have had some really cool conversations with people (after pvp encounters) that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

+1 PnP.

[hagard]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/robn3030/azziebindrusher_zps847968b9.jpg
nothing 2 see here

[Twainz]

Honestly I read all of your post like I read a speech from a politician, 90% lies 10% truth.

I have zero problems with almost everyone in Red Dawn, I was even willing to overlook your lies as leader in the beginning when you first said what you wanted to do. However almost everything you say you want to do as a guild as been a lie. You let the worst scum on this server be in your guild or allied with your guild. You ress people and then kill them for no reason. You break agreements.

If Red Dawn were to kick you and all ex azrael and one of the current officers were to take over I would call for sharing of some dragons right away.

You want to kick me out too?

[Not_Kazowi]

Rexx didn't you lead Heresy and stomp newbies in lesser/no gear on the boxes of old around the clock

Sure I would pvp anyone but if they were way under geared or leveled I wouldn't grief them. Maybe slay once and move on. I would actually buff people and give them gear. VZTZ was quick to level and gear so there wasn't much time to gank people of lesser power.

[Mac Dretti]

Sure I would pvp anyone but if they were way under geared or leveled I wouldn't grief them. Maybe slay once and move on. I would actually buff people and give them gear. VZTZ was quick to level and gear so there wasn't much time to gank people of lesser power.

http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/confused.gif

[chu]

What is this a screenshot of, when I killed you yesterday? How is this bind rushing? I haven't died on Selena in like 15+ days?

wheres screenshot of killing me, im sure that yt got a lot of pras
(error: file not found inc)

can you read the chat? make it bigger if you have to
Azzie looks pale.
Selena pulses with a blue-green aura.

mere minutes after Azzie was slain and then allowed to be rezzed and geared under the LnS policy
Loot n ____ ?
sure doesn't stand for "Stay & join back in on pvp"

[Mac Dretti]

wheres screenshot of killing me, im sure that yt got a lot of pras
(error: file not found inc)

can you read the chat? make it bigger if you have to
Azzie looks pale.
Selena pulses with a blue-green aura.

mere minutes after Azzie was slain and then allowed to be rezzed and geared under the LnS policy
Loot n ____ ?
sure doesn't stand for "Stay & join back in on pvp"

LnSnJBnP

[Holey]

LnSnJBnP

loool

[Tune]

http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/confused.gif

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi View Post
Sure I would pvp anyone but if they were way under geared or leveled I wouldn't grief them. Maybe slay once and move on. I would actually buff people and give them gear. VZTZ was quick to level and gear so there wasn't much time to gank people of lesser power.


this is exactly what i do, dont see ur point

[Kergan]

You know, I grouped/leveled along side a lot of RD members in CoM in my late 40s/early 50s and found them to be very quality people. Mostly the Sharknado crew...Pyrokinetic, Kilbur, Brea, etc but also most the shaman in RD most likely as we were all there for grinding epic faction.

I also decided that despite my ties to Nihilum before I started here (I was guildmates with OJ/Johnny and Thrilla on RZ/SZ) that I would level up on my own, pretty much untwinked/plvl'd and experience what it is like to "grow up" on R99. I did this so I could form unbiased opinions on people and guilds. If the PVP board was still up you'd see I ate deaths from both RD and Nihilum.

I think I can say honestly that nobody here is as bad as the other side makes it out to be. People portray Nihilum as a bunch of no lifers and I don't see that at all. Most of the chat in TS revolves around non game related things except during raid times. Sure, Nizzar will tell people to pipe down and bark out orders, but that is so we're not there wasting time and people know what is going on. Nobody wants to waste 3 hours on something you know can be done if executed properly in 45 minutes.

I've also found people to be extremely helpful and generous when they have very little or nothing to gain from it. Tune, who some people make out to be the biggest asshole on the server, took 2-3 hours of his time (along with Walk and Shrimp) to help me take down the reavers and used a scale he had to spawn the epic mob for me. When we ran into some PVP against Brea and company we were able to rally together 5 or 6 more people to help guard us while we took it down. I'm about 99% sure Tune didn't get a single pixel from any of that. I was really the only one that benefited and I had literally been tagged for about 5 hours at that point.

As for RD, I still think for the most part they are quality people. When I was leveling they were very new or non existent, and maybe because of that they were for the most part very friendly. However, my brother has been leveling a monk and has been under near constant attack from RD members. He is in his upper 40s at this point. He doesn't actively seek PVP and has probably gained 98% of his exp solo. I don't say this to point fingers at RD, merely to point out that the main difference between RD and Nihilum isn't a bunch of white knights vs a bunch of no lifers...it's just time spent and pixels earned. The attitudes aren't really different at all. If Nihilum had a lot of people in the high 40s/low 50s he'd likely be taking PKs from them.

We've become more or less a teams server at this point. And the teams are split up EQ2 style. You have Nihilum vs Red Dawn vs randoms. The amount of venom being spewed in both directions is just retarded. If those teams were hard coded we'd fuck each other up, maybe post some smack talk on the boards and move on. But something about choosing to fight gets peoples blood boiling. The trash talk here is toxic. It isn't "hey newb you need to learn to dispell"...it's "hey faggot you are in a wheelchair". Seriously, what the fuck?

I played SZ for a long time and Sirken once called it the most toxic playerbase in EQ history. Sorry, not even close...

[Mac Dretti]

The trash talk here is toxic. It isn't "hey newb you need to learn to dispell"...it's "hey faggot you are in a wheelchair". Seriously, what the fuck?



Yup. Was a lot funner when we were posting screen shots and not reading "kill yourself" every other thread

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi View Post
Sure I would pvp anyone but if they were way under geared or leveled I wouldn't grief them. Maybe slay once and move on. I would actually buff people and give them gear. VZTZ was quick to level and gear so there wasn't much time to gank people of lesser power.


this is exactly what i do, dont see ur point

look guy, what you did the other day to me in OT is something i never could fathom to do.

Bugging my corpse under the zone in some remote spot? For what?

I called you out in OOC the other day and had 5, yes 5 no name new players to the server send me tells thanking me for pointing out how you get off griefing people or something.

Facts man. I just want a better server to play on, that should be your goal too. Especially since you play so much. Don't you want a competitive atmosphere? especially in Velious? Or what is all this for? To look at your char spin around in character select and admire your loot? Think about it dude

[Dullah]

All I can think when you post is how appropriate your avatar is.

[Mac Dretti]

Rexx mad that his /Q ot hammer exploit to give himself selo run speed while discipline pressed failed to kill a bard that kited him and chanted him

[Not_Kazowi]

Rexx mad that his /Q ot hammer exploit to give himself selo run speed while discipline pressed failed to kill a bard that kited him and chanted him

i dont even know what that means

[Mac Dretti]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=19074&dateline=1314996428

[Tune]

http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/confused.gif

[hagard]

Rexx mad that his /Q ot hammer exploit to give himself selo run speed while discipline pressed failed to kill a bard that kited him and chanted him

u need to go back to eng101 or pay mellow to type ur posts dog

[Mac Dretti]

I know ur all pill poppers so I'm not surprised engris language on forums is hard 2 read without punctuation

[hagard]

proper punctuation couldnt even make that mess a sentence brew

[Hateraid]

Fuck you tune you loser.

Dude drags my link dead character to some remote spot in OT and kills me under the world somehow so I can't get my corpse. Procedes to brag about good luck finding my body in ooc.

Tune is so bad for this server in every way. Hope you get banned dude. Would help the server and maybe your non existent RL.


Funny story is lol as shit!

[Nizzarr]

Rexx exploiting warrior /q on tune and still dies.

[Tune]

http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/confused.gif

[Mac Dretti]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif

[Mac Dretti]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130707145339/degrassi/images/f/fc/Britney-confused_zps9eff516a.gif

[Colgate]

complaining about people /q'ing in the middle of the zone is p funny coming from nilly considering that was what they were known for in classic because they're so bad at the game

have encountered hectorchrist doing this on his warrior in the past few months when he was getting ripped to pieces by me

he still got coined 8)

[Twainz]

Rexx exploiting warrior /q on tune and still dies.

Is that the exploit he learned while being in Nihilum?

[freez]

complaining about people /q'ing in the middle of the zone is p funny coming from nilly considering that was what they were known for in classic because they're so bad at the game

have encountered hectorchrist doing this on his warrior in the past few months when he was getting ripped to pieces by me

he still got coined 8)

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lucky

[Mac Dretti]

i hate when my last mana enchanter nuke is resisted

[freez]

i was gonna make a nice gif if that landed

[Not_Kazowi]

Rexx exploiting warrior /q on tune and still dies.

oh really i was exploiting /q?

give me a break dude, if i was exploiting i could of said i went LD or my computer crashed.

Cant change the fact that tune got rustled jimmies over me so bad he tried to hide my body and bug it so i couldnt find or loot it.

sounds like a wimp nerd IRL that takes his angst out on big rexx through elf simulator

[Kergan]

oh really i was exploiting /q?

give me a break dude, if i was exploiting i could of said i went LD or my computer crashed.

Cant change the fact that tune got rustled jimmies over me so bad he tried to hide my body and bug it so i couldnt find or loot it.

sounds like a wimp nerd IRL that takes his angst out on big rexx through elf simulator

I think it's funny how one person playing this game can call another a nerd. But all you post are RL insults and other garbage that adds nothing of value. You claim to want a better server but are one the more toxic people in all the playerbase. You claim anyone speaking out against you is "on your nuts" but the reality is you are just a fucking annoying person.

[Gaffin 3.0]

u play too much, just take a break

[Gaffin 3.0]

rexx confirmed scared of a gnome war 4 lvls lower and wanted to 1v1 said he wanted xp instead, guy is all about that bluebie life

[Not_Kazowi]

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[JayN]

man eq pvp is so great, so glad there is another pvp server coming; instead of some relief on blue

[Pudge]

Nizzy lookin to nuzzle some nuts

Rexx got the goods

[Flowz]

Cant farm lvl 52's so let me make a thread about new rules, Check.

[Flowz]

oh really i was exploiting /q?


Cant change the fact that tune got rustled jimmies over me so bad he tried to hide my body and bug it so i couldnt find or loot it.
simulator

Was tune the guy who use to exploit Highsun and change mob bindpoints? or am i thinking of a different tune?

[Tune]

http://www.lifeoutloud.kelseymcevoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/confused.gif

[Twainz]

Was tune the guy who use to exploit Highsun and change mob bindpoints? or am i thinking of a different tune?

Correct

[Aenor]

11 pages of tl;dr, but I think the PnP is working out well. In fact I have had some really cool conversations with people (after pvp encounters) that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

+1 PnP.

This is what was so great about Vallon Zek, where LnS originated. Darkies were never mad when I killed them and I was never mad when darkies killed me (and let me tell you, I got the business end from Mercenaries of Darkness, Iggles, Black Sun, all the great ones). A friendly chat afterward was commonplace. There was never the level of seething nerdrage we've seen throughout this server's history.

[Aenor]

The reason this happened, as Sirken could explain to you because he was there too, is because of the soft coded teams. Since players had the option to group and guild across team lines, reputations mattered. LnS allowed the top guilds to weed out toxic players. If you didn't follow player-enforced rules, you would never get in any guild worth being in.

When teams are fully hardcoded like on Sullon Zek, there are no political options and there are no reputations across team lines. There are no consequences from being a complete douchebag to people not on your team. The server picked your friends for you, so you don't have to worry about alienating anyone with your actions. Rep Yo City 3.0 2014 y'all.

[runlvlzero]

The reason this happened, as Sirken could explain to you because he was there too, is because of the soft coded teams. Since players had the option to group and guild across team lines, reputations mattered. LnS allowed the top guilds to weed out toxic players. If you didn't follow player-enforced rules, you would never get in any guild worth being in.

When teams are fully hardcoded like on Sullon Zek, there are no political options and there are no reputations across team lines. There are no consequences from being a complete douchebag to people not on your team. The server picked your friends for you, so you don't have to worry about alienating anyone with your actions. Rep Yo City 3.0 2014 y'all.

Agree, a 3 guild dominance zerg is better than a 1 guild server, people can have their cliques, reputation, pvp, but when raid time comes, they kill pixels together rather than being assburgers.

[Kergan]

The reason this happened, as Sirken could explain to you because he was there too, is because of the soft coded teams. Since players had the option to group and guild across team lines, reputations mattered. LnS allowed the top guilds to weed out toxic players. If you didn't follow player-enforced rules, you would never get in any guild worth being in.

When teams are fully hardcoded like on Sullon Zek, there are no political options and there are no reputations across team lines. There are no consequences from being a complete douchebag to people not on your team. The server picked your friends for you, so you don't have to worry about alienating anyone with your actions. Rep Yo City 3.0 2014 y'all.

We have plenty of ramifications for being a douchebag on this server and it hasn't done a single thing to stop it from happening. I feel almost exactly opposite of you, I believe in hard coded teams, not only to fix all sort of unkillable target helping your opponent type nonsense, but because it will massively increase the actual PVP taking place.

We have a LNS/PNP system in place now that is GM enforced. I think they've been pretty heavy handed so far, but that is because they are trying to really make sure people take it seriously. Eventually this will lead in change in behavior. It will just become second nature after awhile and that will carry over to a T99 server if the PNP policy is enabled there.

[runlvlzero]

We have plenty of ramifications for being a douchebag on this server and it hasn't done a single thing to stop it from happening. I feel almost exactly opposite of you, I believe in hard coded teams, not only to fix all sort of unkillable target helping your opponent type nonsense, but because it will massively increase the actual PVP taking place.

We have a LNS/PNP system in place now that is GM enforced. I think they've been pretty heavy handed so far, but that is because they are trying to really make sure people take it seriously. Eventually this will lead in change in behavior. It will just become second nature after awhile and that will carry over to a T99 server if the PNP policy is enabled there.

This depends on 1 factor, which is a constant issue, population. Without population. You will have 1 team with 50 people and 2 teams with 15 on at raid time. And there will be less "PvP".

With Xteaming, Teams might balance around player preference, and there will be 3 guild leaders instead of 1 guild leader calling the shot on who gets 2 raid with the 3 guild zerg. More players, means more pvp, no there won't be underdog guilds raiding. But there aren't anyway. Unless it's like 1 target in huge velious repop. On a Xteaming server you will have a few underdogs and teams contesting spawns like Lodi, Manastone, fungi. Vs 1 guild dominating a zone they want.

I can't rephrase it more simply.