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Kergan
12-24-2013, 01:44 PM
I've read pretty well though every thread on the subject on the forums but I have a couple questions.

First off, I have a friend with the tear who is willing to do the spawning of the final boss for me. I have max faction.

Question 1: I am under the impression he needs MAX faction as well to spawn the boss. True?

Question 2: Are there any issues with a non shaman maxing truespirit faction if the above is true?

Question 3: We've done approximately 12-13 woe/envy/marr turn ins while already in warmly and STILL haven't maxed truespirit on his wizard. Is something screwed up or is this normal? According to the faction charts on the wiki, maxing warmly should take approximately the same amount of "faction points" as going from kindly to warmly. It took only about 4 or 5 turn ins to go from high amiable to warmly. So either the faction chart is way off or something is hosed.

Question 4: Is it possible it is maxed and we're either not seeing the "you cannot possibly get any better" message? Does it only appear when you first max it (and he might have missed it) or every time you gain faction after? I'm worried its maxed and it's just not telling us.

Question 5: On Live I remember woe/envy/marr being the go-to method as it only took like half a dozen turn ins to max faction. Was that nerfed on live, nerfed on here?

I'm at the point now where I don't want to risk losing a tear, but I'm worried something is bugged. Any help/info would be appreciated!

BlkCamel
12-24-2013, 01:58 PM
I've read pretty well though every thread on the subject on the forums but I have a couple questions.

First off, I have a friend with the tear who is willing to do the spawning of the final boss for me. I have max faction.

Question 1: I am under the impression he needs MAX faction as well to spawn the boss. True?

Question 2: Are there any issues with a non shaman maxing truespirit faction if the above is true?

Question 3: We've done approximately 12-13 woe/envy/marr turn ins while already in warmly and STILL haven't maxed truespirit on his wizard. Is something screwed up or is this normal? According to the faction charts on the wiki, maxing warmly should take approximately the same amount of "faction points" as going from kindly to warmly. It took only about 4 or 5 turn ins to go from high amiable to warmly. So either the faction chart is way off or something is hosed.

Question 4: Is it possible it is maxed and we're either not seeing the "you cannot possibly get any better" message? Does it only appear when you first max it (and he might have missed it) or every time you gain faction after? I'm worried its maxed and it's just not telling us.

Question 5: On Live I remember woe/envy/marr being the go-to method as it only took like half a dozen turn ins to max faction. Was that nerfed on live, nerfed on here?

I'm at the point now where I don't want to risk losing a tear, but I'm worried something is bugged. Any help/info would be appreciated!

Yes, he needs to be at max faction to spawn boss. There are no problems with a non shaman maxing faction. Quest is not broke, your friend is not max faction. I did 4 bondil turn ins, test of patience, about 15 woe/envy turn ins, 5 or 6 EJ gem turn ins, dire wolf, and still had to turn in like 4 completed books from CoM to get max. The grind to Max is greater then the grind from Kindly to Warmly. I hope this helps! When your friend is max faction he will receive message saying Your Faction cannot possibly go higher when you do a turn in.

Kergan
12-24-2013, 02:08 PM
Yes, he needs to be at max faction to spawn boss. There are no problems with a non shaman maxing faction. Quest is not broke, your friend is not max faction. I did 4 bondil turn ins, test of patience, about 15 woe/envy turn ins, 5 or 6 EJ gem turn ins, dire wolf, and still had to turn in like 4 completed books from CoM to get max. The grind to Max is greater then the grind from Kindly to Warmly. I hope this helps! When your friend is max faction he will receive message saying Your Faction cannot possibly go higher when you do a turn in.

That helps, thanks! I'm thinking it may be quickest to pop the guy for boots even though he can't use them as it is a pretty easy mob for a 60 monk/cleric. When I maxed mine I had the benefit of two Ghiosk book turn ins which I think give a huge chunk. Basically did the quest legit up through black dire, 2 ghiosks and 5 reports = done.

Zeonick
12-24-2013, 11:12 PM
And remember to hand your iksar scale in to the spirit sentinel by the lake! I made that mistake earlier today :(