Population tanking

[harold banana]

Friday primetime US timezones

110

No variance, no players

Most of the new players have learned they will never see boss mobs unless they join nihilum and tons are quitting, leaving the toxic shitbags that have ruined red from the jump.

Server needs variance, you must put it in!

[runlvlzero]

varience would make zero difference 2 me if i even cared about playing here hardcore

either way

[Langrisserx]

110 on a lull from the break within a break... people are traveling today, receiving travelers, internets going down from freezing shit... id say that number is within normal range for this time given circumstances

Tracking Server Population - Thanksgiving 2013
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129767

[Rec]

lots of new games are out. We need something to draw the attention back or just wait.

[Twainz]

Log on. Chase multiple Nihilum groups to plugging for 2 hours. 1 YT out of the 10 nihilum I saw. Server dead. RIP

[Langrisserx]

they were chasing us flowers around earlier, all over kunark and you know where... without 4 +/-, we just say eh, succor out go somewhere else.

at least if there was risk to them of OOR assistance then both sides would stay to engage, but as it stands... eh, prplgrpz is handling Body Count just fine

[Rararboker]

I played red99 for a while. I didn't get griefed or relentlessly hunted/killed. But I couldn't find anyone with gear I could buy, despite having the plat. Mostly quit because it didn't seem like a lot was going on. Maybe I was just too low of a level?

[Rellapse36]

Dumb server...Nilly most toxic guild far surpassing Tmo dunno why this box does not ever get cleansed like blue

[jeffd]

it's the holidays, real ppl (e.g. none of u) aren't logging in because we have ppl irl who love us

[Langrisserx]

^ hehe truth hurts

[Hateraid]

Dumb server...Nilly most toxic guild far surpassing Tmo dunno why this box does not ever get cleansed like blue

damn. banned again? lol! wonder how keeping a job is like for you.

Must suck being forced to play on a server/game you dislike so much. I heard being productive could be fun and rewarding. Or atleast playing a game you enjoy. There is always real life too!

[Retti_]

Dumb

[Rellapse36]

Dumb

[iiNGloriouS]

Dumb

[thugcruncher]

http://i.imgur.com/KqxO6g7.jpg

[Langrisserx]

now u wanna play? game is over for u

[Jimjam]

Perhaps try recruiting people who like EQ / pvp but haven't heard of p99 instead of griefing people of the server?

;)

[kotton05]

Dude it's simple , cross market red on other sites with a somewhat non cringe worthy video or something. Don't recruit from blue... Go beyond the p99 website, won't be instant gratification but if you care this much perhaps you could do it.

Ps. Variance might help get a mob here and there but at same time having the ones willing to log in at all hours is still hard for a smaller guild.

[Rec]

maybe if we had cans of beans to scavenge, we already have zombies at least

[runlvlzero]

pop +1 again, i'm level 5

[harold banana]

lol @ Cross market, no one markets red99 that's why it is what it is

its recycled shitbags, period.

We got some new players from EQ Mac but most are realizing the horrible truth of 50+ Gameplay on red99 and the chokehold nihilum has on boss mobs and want nothing to do with it.

Variance is the only cure for red99 sickness, it must get so hard for nihilum to maintain control THEY MUST GIVE UP

nothing else will solve the problem, people play eq to raid, spiroc lord cannot be the only boss for the rest of the server, its not going to work.

Clearing hate and fear for no bosses? please

[Eslade]

Everyone knows that the population shouldn't be tanking. If anything it should be doing DPS.

[pharmakos]

i can only speak for myself, but i didn't quit Red because of a lack of variance. i quit Red because this server was the most immature bunch of antisocial sociopaths i have ever encountered in my life.

and i read 4chan, so that's saying something.

[runlvlzero]

i can only speak for myself, but i didn't quit Red because of a lack of variance. i quit Red because this server was the most immature bunch of antisocial sociopaths i have ever encountered in my life.

and i read 4chan, so that's saying something.

ehhh, i dunno 4chan can be prety bad

I will give you immature, but these are like kids with guns, not trained killers with guns.

[pharmakos]

Ps. Variance might help get a mob here and there but at same time having the ones willing to log in at all hours is still hard for a smaller guild.

merkk -- the people that want variance aren't even interested in PVE encounters. they just want Nihilum to have fewer people show up to raids.

[runlvlzero]

merkk -- the people that want variance aren't even interested in PVE encounters. they just want Nihilum to have fewer people show up to raids.

their not even interested in pvp encounters

people who are interest in pvp, make toons for pvp and play fair enough to not simply dominate and control what goes on where on the server, they play for the pvp, not the metagame

[compulsion]

I played red99 for a while. I didn't get griefed or relentlessly hunted/killed. But I couldn't find anyone with gear I could buy, despite having the plat. Mostly quit because it didn't seem like a lot was going on. Maybe I was just too low of a level?

^ This is pretty much it.

Inflation has pushed the prices of anything worthwhile so high that there really is no point in selling mid range stuff. It isn't even worth the effort to log in an alt to sell 1 or 2k worth of items.

XP is so easy, class imbalances as far as PvE goes, and the fact that so much of the population has been around forever means that there is little interesting to do once you do make 54/55. I've finished about 1/3d of the solo artist challenge just screwing around on a friend's retired account, why bother doing it with a group. Allow boxing and there is zero incentive to deal with players who are not as familiar with various zones and game mechanics.

HB keeps trying to make a point about leveling a melee, but the reality is that outside of PvP, most melee is boring as hell. What does a rogue do? Sit with a group and hit 1 key over and over again. Warrior? Hit mob then afk while procs keep agro. Monk can be interesting in certain spots but for most content is an inefficient puller. And we all know how much love there is for the hybrids.

And for what trade off? If you are one of the 15% of the player base who even cares about raiding, you become useful. Other than that, you are basically a charity case.

Every time someone steps up and puts the effort into a new guild, VV, Red Dawn, Rule of Rile, or whatever, a bunch of new players get involved and a bunch of old players revisit parts of Norrath that they may have missed the first time around. But they also eventually get to the point where there is very little left to do(outside of the extraordinary timesink of raiding) and quit logging in regularly.

The PvP here is awful here on so many levels it is hardly a reason for anyone to stay, and with Alecta having hardware problems, I imagine TESO and WildStar will both be out before we see any meaningful changes to red.

[compulsion]

i can only speak for myself, but i didn't quit Red because of a lack of variance. i quit Red because this server was the most immature bunch of antisocial sociopaths i have ever encountered in my life.

and i read 4chan, so that's saying something.

Global OOC makes this place about as appealing as a restaurant that leaves all the channels on static and at max volume. Wonder how many other players have left for similar reasons.

[pharmakos]

HB keeps trying to make a point about leveling a melee, but the reality is that outside of PvP, most melee is boring as hell. What does a rogue do? Sit with a group and hit 1 key over and over again. Warrior? Hit mob then afk while procs keep agro. Monk can be interesting in certain spots but for most content is an inefficient puller. And we all know how much love there is for the hybrids.

i had little problem getting my paladin to level 49 solo and unguilded. but once i started getting in PVP range of the level 55+s that just roam around ganking neutral soloers that are actively engaged in PVE fights.... yeah i just don't have time to deal with that bullshit.

it maybe would have been different if i was a caster, but all the worthwhile dungeons at 49+ are a long way from the places where a paladin can bind. as it stood, i was spending half of my play sessions just doing corpse runs.

i've griped about this before, and i was told "learn to PVP"... but no amount of PVP skill is gonna save me when i'm at 40% health with a mob beating on me and i get jumped by someone 8 levels higher than me.

[runlvlzero]

i've griped about this before, and i was told "learn to PVP"... but no amount of PVP skill is gonna save me when i'm at 40% health with a mob beating on me and i get jumped by someone 8 levels higher than me.

your only optionis to join flowers and raid guk or join a raid org and hope they need u enough to get u some lewtz so u can survive a bit vs some of those redcons, at least enough to plug

it's horribly unfair and unjust when some untwinked melee is fighting for their lives in s ro and a druid or 3 roll into s ro just to rolfstomp u on their way to a raid or pixel farm

TLDR, flowers will let u level in their zones as long as u wear their tag and help them pvp their enemies. and players like lewis will let u pvp with them vs the raid geared people, its do-able when u have some good buff support, bard speed


also i see plenty mid range pvp gear, like white gold necklaces being sold for 500p

even a dwarven ring the other day, plenty good enough to pve in 2

sarnak tabbard, etc

u need to catch the pop mid swing, right as people are logging on and off, if u catch it at peek or its lowest spot, ur going to miss out on people looking to do stuff, sell, run around norrath, port

I know its a pain to schedule, i am trying to reconcile work + EQ + not letting my body go to shit

patience is the key, and avoiding burnout from those 20 hr solo grind sessions

GBS, 3k, 2:07 EST, not really low end but attainable with a bit of farmage

solo pvp, u cant make a ton of mortal enemies, don't ever pvp alone on a melee ur screwed, u have to beg for those druid/bards to come fight with u and prove ur worth, those melees who talk shit about 1v6 are punks who just have mad gears

[harold banana]

i can only speak for myself, but i didn't quit Red because of a lack of variance. i quit Red because this server was the most immature bunch of antisocial sociopaths i have ever encountered in my life.

and i read 4chan, so that's saying something.

ill agree its a bit scary, the constant griefing, bullying and people shitting on eachother in an elf world that people should be coming to with intentions of relaxation and fun is mindboggling

but it is what they make it, lots of cleanup is needed. But the point being is theres no reason to level if theres no light at the end of the tunnel. Raid gear was always the reward for leveling past 50, bosses

enjoy spiroc lord endgame

[harold banana]

i had little problem getting my paladin to level 49 solo and unguilded. but once i started getting in PVP range of the level 55+s that just roam around ganking neutral soloers that are actively engaged in PVE fights.... yeah i just don't have time to deal with that bullshit.

it maybe would have been different if i was a caster, but all the worthwhile dungeons at 49+ are a long way from the places where a paladin can bind. as it stood, i was spending half of my play sessions just doing corpse runs.

i've griped about this before, and i was told "learn to PVP"... but no amount of PVP skill is gonna save me when i'm at 40% health with a mob beating on me and i get jumped by someone 8 levels higher than me.

Well said, another normal person griefed off red by disgruntled faggots who are mad due to their shortcomings in life.

I have never ever done this to anyone and I never would. Being a faggot is #1 reason red failed, and imagine an entire guild willing to do anything it takes to limit another guilds progression so they can own boss mobs and sell the loot

and staff let em do it ! Mindboggling

and rogean puts a big post about how this is supposed to be a classic server, fun for everyone

yet he lets people treat it like a job, and the only thing that can hinder them, AKA Variance, he wont put in

not sure if serious or dum

[k9quaint]

Well said, another normal person griefed off red by disgruntled faggots who are mad due to their shortcomings in life.

I have never ever done this to anyone and I never would. Being a faggot is #1 reason red failed, and imagine an entire guild willing to do anything it takes to limit another guilds progression so they can own boss mobs and sell the loot

and staff let em do it ! Mindboggling

and rogean puts a big post about how this is supposed to be a classic server, fun for everyone

yet he lets people treat it like a job, and the only thing that can hinder them, AKA Variance, he wont put in

not sure if serious or dum

Why would Rogean want raid guilds to focus on raid content instead of giving grief to level 52s? Plus, level 49 is a dream compared to 52. And that guy quit before Nihilum stepped up their grief efforts.

Raid content can be monopolized in 8-10 hrs atm, so the other 160 hrs in the week are used to get players to quit R99.

[pharmakos]

imagine an entire guild willing to do anything it takes to limit another guilds progression so they can own boss mobs and sell the loot

does Nihilum even really do that? i thought that when everyone started crying for variance, Nihilum left raid mobs up for days at a time just to make a point. and no one came to kill 'em.

Plus, level 49 is a dream compared to 52. And that guy quit before Nihilum stepped up their grief efforts.

Raid content can be monopolized in 8-10 hrs atm, so the other 160 hrs in the week are used to get players to quit R99.

most of the grief i got was from so called "resistance guilds." the one time i ever had PVP with a Nihilum member i was the one that challenged him. and it started by me saying "hey, wanna go?"... not just jumping him while he was in the middle of a PVE fight (which is what the majority of the "PVPers" on the server seem to do)

i was unguilded. if those resistance guilds were smart, they would have tried recruiting me instead of just attacking me when they knew they'd be able to get some easy YT.

[runlvlzero]

U obviously havnt been in dreadlands when on tunes badside

in otherwords, sure nihilum is nice, but if you interfere with their bluebie activities their like gremlins on sunlight and water

it's like that abusive parent whos super nice until you disobey and go to the movies with ur friends for 2 hrs, than u get beaten for hours

[Rellapse36]

Tune most toxic player on the box

[pharmakos]

sure nihilum is nice, but if you interfere with their bluebie activities their like gremlins on sunlight and water

now see, that actually makes sense to me. "you fuck with me? well i'm gonna fuck with you too!"

what i will never understand are the people on this server that enjoy jumping soloers 8 levels below them when the soloer is low health and actively engaged with a mob.

i didn't play EQ PVP "back in the day," but i've heard that on RZ / TZ / VZ it was considered pretty lame to jump someone who was in the middle of a fighting an EXP mob. that seems to be the only time most of red will engage PVP, though.

even the one night i raided Plane of Fear with Red Dawn... Azrael waited to attack until RD had a bad pull. so fucking lame.

[harold banana]

Tune most toxic player on the box

truth

I have never played on blue past level 10 or 12 but it looks like that TMO Guild ruined blue huh, wtb guild bans for them and nihilum

[k9quaint]

most of the grief i got was from so called "resistance guilds." the one time i ever had PVP with a Nihilum member i was the one that challenged him. and it started by me saying "hey, wanna go?"... not just jumping him while he was in the middle of a PVE fight (which is what the majority of the "PVPers" on the server seem to do)


That was my point, now Nihilum is griefing too.

[runlvlzero]

now see, that actually makes sense to me. "you fuck with me? well i'm gonna fuck with you too!"

what i will never understand are the people on this server that enjoy jumping soloers 8 levels below them when the soloer is low health and actively engaged with a mob.

i didn't play EQ PVP "back in the day," but i've heard that on RZ / TZ / VZ it was considered pretty lame to jump someone who was in the middle of a fighting an EXP mob. that seems to be the only time most of red will engage PVP, though.

even the one night i raided Plane of Fear with Red Dawn... Azrael waited to attack until RD had a bad pull. so fucking lame.

yes, but if you dont stand there like a gentlemen and a scholar and politely ask for a duel, your considered interfering, there is no middle ground or fun zone for them, its srs business only.

also, they do have their people who will grief, u just didnt run into them, most of their members wear other guild tags when they are griefing also

[pharmakos]

Tune ran right past me in SolB one day.

[Ryko]

Friday primetime US timezones

110

No variance, no players

Most of the new players have learned they will never see boss mobs unless they join nihilum and tons are quitting, leaving the toxic shitbags that have ruined red from the jump.

Server needs variance, you must put it in!

TL;DR

However Immersion levels at ana ll time high...

In laws showed up today... found my office replaced with a bed!

Proceeded to upheave my desk and computer, run 100 ft of cat5 through my basement ceiling, and found myself sitting in a cold dark basement.... WITH EQ!!!!!

on a side note, since i've been so immersed I haven't found time to finish the basement in my new home... CPU sitting 1 foot from the sump pump (since it was the only power source down here)... pray it doesn't rain too hard... I plan on no longer shaving my neck as I am now playing in the basement

[runlvlzero]

Tune ran right past me in SolB one day.

tune buffed me and my group and was nice 2 me in CT...

Tune also jumps Miria understandibly on a CR in TT naked.

Thats not what I'm talking about, and Tune =! Nihilum.

[pharmakos]

well, name some names then :)

[runlvlzero]

well, name some names then :)

Nihilum really doesn't bother me, nore does anyone really, beyond a few random tards, and even they arent that bad.

[harold banana]

if tune ran past you he was probably going to check tranix or had something else on his agenda, he is a gigantic asshole and his sole purpose on red is griefing.

I bet he has made dozens of people quit.

[pharmakos]

yeah i think it was a "bigger fish to fry" thing, heh.

[runlvlzero]

if tune ran past you he was probably going to check tranix or had something else on his agenda, he is a gigantic asshole and his sole purpose on red is griefing.

I bet he has made dozens of people quit.

whats your purpose?

yeah i think it was a "bigger fish to fry" thing, heh.

he's sekretly in love and fantisizes about me every night obsessively